Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Kanak, Thanks for your view. Some views are below. Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes. If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'. Regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha. > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child. > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again) > > regards > Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators. > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching. > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation? > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case. > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule. > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty, > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- 22- > > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.) > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star. > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty, > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH- > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14- > 10- > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house. > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately. > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear tw853, Mr.Raichur has developed a horoscope matching SW,which incorporates all what you are looking for... The Marching process is based on KPDP....or K.P.Dasavidha Porutham,and the programme has been specially devised for Mr.K.P.Kuppu Ganapati...and to meet the requirements specified by him,in an exhaustive article appearing in K.P & Astrology some years ago... You may contact Shri A.R.Raichur,and obtain the SW from him...which gives out a simple 1page print-out,covering details of Mars Dosha etc., if any,and also the recommendation if the match is recommended or not...! (Strictly as per K.P. Principles...As you are aware the traditionalists use the Ashtavidha Porutham technique...programmes for which are also available). For a comprehensive discussion,including the rationale, of Dasavidha Porutham,you may refer the K.P & Astrology Magazine,1977 Annual,Pp 32-44. Many examples have also been given illustrating the application... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 Sent: Friday, 18 May, 2007 8:36:29 AM Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, "R Satish" <rsatish1942@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation) , 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Kanak, KPDP criteria no: 10 is very low, only 33.33% (out of overall 53.33%). In Western society they would not be together anymore. James Braha may be right in saying that for Westerners Kuta system not only doesn't work but also gives false hope. Thanks and regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below. > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes. > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha. > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child. > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again) > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection ( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > 22- > > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- 26d > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4, > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D- > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH- > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14- > > 10- > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Lajmi ji, Thank you for information. We're discussing Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's KPDP and Kuta results. Thanks and regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear tw853, > Mr.Raichur has developed a horoscope matching SW,which incorporates all what you are looking for... > The Marching process is based on KPDP....or K.P.Dasavidha Porutham,and the programme has been specially devised for Mr.K.P.Kuppu Ganapati...and to meet the requirements specified by him,in an exhaustive article appearing in K.P & Astrology some years ago... > You may contact Shri A.R.Raichur,and obtain the SW from him...which gives out a simple 1page print-out,covering details of Mars Dosha etc., if any,and also the recommendation if the match is recommended or not...! > (Strictly as per K.P. Principles...As you are aware the traditionalists use the Ashtavidha Porutham technique...programmes for which are also available). > For a comprehensive discussion,including the rationale, of Dasavidha Porutham,you may refer the K.P & Astrology Magazine,1977 Annual,Pp 32-44. Many examples have also been given illustrating the application... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > Friday, 18 May, 2007 8:36:29 AM > Re: Inter-community marriage > > Dear Kanak, > > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below. > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes. > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'. > > Regards, > > tw > > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha. > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child. > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again) > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, " R Satish " <rsatish1942@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection ( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > 22- > > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- 26d > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4, > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation) , 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D- > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH- > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14- > > 10- > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Vishwanath ji, Thanks for detiels about both chart. If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930: Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11 Thanks and regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Vishwanath ji, > > Thanks for detiels about both chart. > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > Dear Sirs > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. > > Regards > Mk Viswanath > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below. > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes. > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha. > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child. > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again) > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection ( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > 22- > > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- 26d > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4, > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D- > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH- > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14- > > 10- > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Mr. Bosmia You are welcome sir Regards MK ViswanathKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, Thanks for detiels about both chart. If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Dear Friends, Before i get the SW can some one post me Output of Matcing results of Sh Raichurs SW for the case mentioned By kanak ji for my study. Thanks in anticipation. - Kanak Bosmia Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 AM Re: Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dear Mr. Bosmia May I take the liberty to reply to this mail. Of course i did not check the KP significations of 2,7,11 and fructification of event during the conjoining period of significators due to lack of software, time, etc. At a glance I felt that the girl's marriage should take place in 2009 end whereas boy's marriage should take place in 2008. This is due to Saturn connections. Whenever Saturn is connected, Saturn only will give marriage during its d/b/a/ and conjoining period of transit. In the female chart, Mer, Sun, Ven, Ketu are conjoined This is found to be not an auspcious combination, but it is free from Mars dosha. Whereas in boy's chart Mars is in 12th from Asc and is conjoined Moon. From our humble experience, Mars-Moon conjunction in one chart and not in spouse chart should give a mental mis-match. Regards MK Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dear Mr. Tw Thanks for your msg. In male chart Mars is in 7th with Venus. In spouse chart Mars is in 11th and is aspecting 7th lord Moon. Balancing for Mars is complete. A benefic in 10th house nullifies kuja dosha. In male chart Jup is in 10th while in female chart Mer is placed in 10th (unafflicted). Of course the first horoscope is of eminent Astrologer, Late Dr. BV Raman. Obviously 2nd one is of Mrs Rajeshwari Raman. Persons of that calibre and knowledge of astrology will not clear a marriage matching without Mars afflications balanced in both the charts. Thanks for giving me an opportunity. Regards MK Viswanathtw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dear All, I'm sorry for a mistake of taking August 16 instead of August 15 for husband's DOB. Correction is made as below. Regards, tw 1. Birth Details i)Husband,15-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid12-59- 17,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22- 14,Asc Sag08-40-42(KPAstro2.7) ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55- 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25- 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7) 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN. 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9. 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9) (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.) 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6. 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6. + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4- Step Method i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3). ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2. 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO. 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11. 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.) (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.) 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10. 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11. i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification of 1, 10 houses in step 3). ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator for child birth in step 3 & 4. 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008) 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6. 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep. 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9. (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.) 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.) (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.) E= Empty house i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02- 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 in step 3 & 4.) ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th house in Step 3 & 4. 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is JUP. 1) Plt JUP + is in 11P l/o 1, 4. (JUP is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which JUP is cuspal sublord.) 2) Stl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p. 3) Sbl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8. i) As per KP, a child is promised as 11,5, 2 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (5, 2 houses in step 3). ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary significator of 11, 5 houses in Step 1 & 2 and Primary significator of 5th house in Step 3. 3.2. The nearest possible Bhukti to have a child is JUP-MOO DB (21- 10-2007 to 20-02-2009) 1) Plt MOO is in 6 l/o 8. 2) Stl MAR is in 2p l/o 5, 12p. 3) Sbl MAR is in 2 l/o 5, 12. 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8. i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during MOO bhukti because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 2 is supported by significator of 2, 5 houses in step 3. ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 2th house in Step 2. (Referring 3.1, JUP dasa is a fruitful significator to have a child.) 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is: 21-10-2007 to 14-05-2008 as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2. 5. The next possible period to have a child is: 03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012 as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) for wife and JUP-RAH DB (26-01-2010 to 20-06-2012) for husband.. (no so sure in husband's chart) , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below. > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes. > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha. > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child. > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA- 4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again) > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection ( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > 22- > > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- 26d > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4, > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty, > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D- > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH- > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice. > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14- > > 10- > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Sriwastava ji, hope this help you. regards Kanak Bosmia : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165 Email:kanakbosmia:kanbosastro MATCHING OF CHARTS for Marriage As per KP Principles Based on articles by Kuppu Ganapathi of DELHI ---- BOY: NIRAV KAKU GIRL VIVEK S/O GUNVANTBHAI D/O GOTHRAM: Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA STAR -PADA 3 -PADA 4 CRITERION MARKS 1 CHARACTERISTICS COMPATIBILITY 0 2 HARMONY IN MARRIED LIFE 50 3 ATTITUDES AND URGES 0 4 GENERAL HAPPINESS 100 5 MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COUPLES AFTER MARRIAGE 100 6 PLEASURE,HAPPINESS DURING CHILD BIRTH AFTER MARRIAGE 50 7 GENERAL SUITABILITY FOR MARRIAGE 0 8 LIKELY HOOD OF MARRAIAGE WITH THIS BOY AND GIRL 100 9 SMOOTHNESS OF MARRIED LIFE 51 10 WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE 51 TOTAL 502 Matching Percentage is 50% CHARTS DO NOT MATCH BOYs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen DOSHA is mitigated as GURU aspects Mars GIRLs Mangala :NO MANGALA DOSHA JOINT DOSHA : xx xx BOYs Children: GIRLs Children: NOTE: MATCH NOT ACCEPTABLE CAST BY Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia ON 9/4/2007 PROGRAMMED BY RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77swami wrote: Dear Friends, Before i get the SW can some one post me Output of Matcing results of Sh Raichurs SW for the case mentioned By kanak ji for my study. Thanks in anticipation. - Kanak Bosmia Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 AM Re: Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Sriwastava ji, hope this help you. regards Kanak Bosmia : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165 Email:kanakbosmia:kanbosastro MATCHING OF CHARTS for Marriage As per KP Principles Based on articles by Kuppu Ganapathi of DELHI - BOY: GIRL S/O D/O GOTHRAM: Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA STAR -PADA 3 -PADA 4 CRITERION MARKS 1 CHARACTERISTICS COMPATIBILITY 0 2 HARMONY IN MARRIED LIFE 50 3 ATTITUDES AND URGES 0 4 GENERAL HAPPINESS 100 5 MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COUPLES AFTER MARRIAGE 100 6 PLEASURE,HAPPINESS DURING CHILD BIRTH AFTER MARRIAGE 50 7 GENERAL SUITABILITY FOR MARRIAGE 0 8 LIKELY HOOD OF MARRAIAGE WITH THIS BOY AND GIRL 100 9 SMOOTHNESS OF MARRIED LIFE 51 10 WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE 51 TOTAL 502 Matching Percentage is 50% CHARTS DO NOT MATCH BOYs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen DOSHA is mitigated as GURU aspects Mars GIRLs Mangala :NO MANGALA DOSHA JOINT DOSHA : xx xx BOYs Children: GIRLs Children: NOTE: MATCH NOT ACCEPTABLE CAST BY Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia ON 9/4/2007 PROGRAMMED BY RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77swami wrote: Dear Friends, Before i get the SW can some one post me Output of Matcing results of Sh Raichurs SW for the case mentioned By kanak ji for my study. Thanks in anticipation. ----- Original Message ----- Kanak Bosmia Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 AM Re: Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Mr. MK Viswanath, Thanks. You've got the point. That marriage of not yet educated or employed young man and just 12 year old daughter of a medical doctor was sponsored and cleared by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. (B.V. Raman: My Experiences in Astrology, 2001, pages 46-48) Thanks and regards, tw , Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > Dear Mr. Tw > > Thanks for your msg. > > In male chart Mars is in 7th with Venus. In spouse chart Mars is in 11th and is aspecting 7th lord Moon. Balancing for Mars is complete. > > A benefic in 10th house nullifies kuja dosha. In male chart Jup is in 10th while in female chart Mer is placed in 10th (unafflicted). > > Of course the first horoscope is of eminent Astrologer, Late Dr. BV Raman. Obviously 2nd one is of Mrs Rajeshwari Raman. > > Persons of that calibre and knowledge of astrology will not clear a marriage matching without Mars afflications balanced in both the charts. > > Thanks for giving me an opportunity. > > Regards > MK Viswanath > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930: > > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11 > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Vishwanath ji, > > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart. > > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your > reply i will write more data. > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i > will post some more data. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > Dear Sirs > > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in > male chart. > > > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, > but continue to live under one roof. > > > > Regards > > Mk Viswanath > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi > dosha.couple is Brahamin. > > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA > > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney > btwin both but due to child they live to gether. > > > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy > KPDP criteria no: 10. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > Some views are below. > > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then here > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > only > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > people > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > > through natural processes. > > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > this > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > considered as 'Poor'. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > only, > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > Nadi have No dosha. > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > > no child. > > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > per > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > have to check all again) > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent > of > > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > > No. > > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would > be > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > > of > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > around > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > Diana > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > child). > > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > passion, > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > Westerners > > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > > to > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection > ( > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > > is > > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > towards > > > > this issue. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > this > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty, > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > check > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > subject. > > > it > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > failore > > > and > > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > > 22- > > > > 09, > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- > 26d > > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro -- > > > > > 16N31, > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52- 43, > > > Moon > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > Percentage > > > is > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > Criterion > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > 2, > > 7 > > > as > > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > > (Pl > > > > see > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > for > > > > which > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > > in > > > 8 > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > 7, > > 8, > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > are > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > also > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > signified > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > > per > > > > KP > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > > role > > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > cuspal > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > l/o > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > > RAH's > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > > cuspal > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11- 2008). > > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > > 4.4, > > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > decider > > > for > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > considered > > > as > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in > step > > 3 > > > > and > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > signification > > > of > > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > > sublord > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in > planet > > > and > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > signification > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > signification > > > by > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > significations > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > or > > > > death, > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > > of > > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > signification > > > > by > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > Cuspal > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage > by > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 > (love > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > life, > > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > separation > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > danger > > > > at > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > solely > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > house > > > > as > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty, > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of > 6 > > > > house > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > > as > > > a > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > significator > > > > of > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > only > > D- > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > in > > KP > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > Readers > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > consideration > > > of > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > > be > > > > done > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > signifying > > 2, > > > > 7, > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > is > > > RAH- > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary > Significator > > > of > > > > 7, > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, > a > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > choice. > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > cuspal > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > indicate > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > > 14- > > > 10- > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > possible > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > > Girl's > > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > > and > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl > in > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > opposition > > > > from > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > nakshatra > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Vishwanath ji, please check below data and reply with your commnet about married life. Male 04/12/1949 23:58 PST Los Angeles, CA USA after this we will discuss some more one by one. regards Kanak BosmiaAstrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Mr. Bosmia You are welcome sir Regards MK ViswanathKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, Thanks for detiels about both chart. If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Vishwanath ji, I dont know mutch about Vedic astrology, and in this KP fourm we discuss about KP system, so if we discuss KP it is good. about Moo/Mar in one chart, i have Moon and Mar in 7th, ( not in my wife's chart) there is no mental mis-match btwin us. regards Kanak BosmiaAstrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Mr. Bosmia May I take the liberty to reply to this mail. Of course i did not check the KP significations of 2,7,11 and fructification of event during the conjoining period of significators due to lack of software, time, etc. At a glance I felt that the girl's marriage should take place in 2009 end whereas boy's marriage should take place in 2008. This is due to Saturn connections. Whenever Saturn is connected, Saturn only will give marriage during its d/b/a/ and conjoining period of transit. In the female chart, Mer, Sun, Ven, Ketu are conjoined This is found to be not an auspcious combination, but it is free from Mars dosha. Whereas in boy's chart Mars is in 12th from Asc and is conjoined Moon. From our humble experience, Mars-Moon conjunction in one chart and not in spouse chart should give a mental mis-match. Regards MK Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, I have a doubt about birth time of his wife's chart. If Dr.Arun say about his married life, i will try to rectified chart. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,I'm sorry for a mistake of taking August 16 instead of August 15 for husband's DOB. Correction is made as below.Regards,tw1. Birth Detailsi)Husband,15-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid12-59-17,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-14,Asc Sag08-40-42(KPAstro2.7)ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)2. Analysis of Wife's Chart2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.+ = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-Step Methodi) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification of 1, 10 houses in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator for child birth in step 3 & 4.2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008)1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)E= Empty housei) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 in step 3 & 4.)ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th house in Step 3 & 4.3. Analysis of Husband's Chart3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is JUP.1) Plt JUP + is in 11P l/o 1, 4.(JUP is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which JUP is cuspal sublord.)2) Stl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p.3) Sbl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.i) As per KP, a child is promised as 11,5, 2 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (5, 2 houses in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary significator of 11, 5 houses in Step 1 & 2 and Primary significator of 5th house in Step 3.3.2. The nearest possible Bhukti to have a child is JUP-MOO DB (21-10-2007 to 20-02-2009)1) Plt MOO is in 6 l/o 8.2) Stl MAR is in 2p l/o 5, 12p.3) Sbl MAR is in 2 l/o 5, 12.4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during MOO bhukti because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 2 is supported by significator of 2, 5 houses in step 3.ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 2th house in Step 2.(Referring 3.1, JUP dasa is a fruitful significator to have a child.)4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:21-10-2007 to 14-05-2008 as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.5. The next possible period to have a child is:03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) for wife and JUP-RAH DB (26-01-2010 to 20-06-2012) for husband.. (no so sure in husband's chart) , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Kanak, Thank you for your time. Regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > I have a doubt about birth time of his wife's chart. > > If Dr.Arun say about his married life, i will try to rectified chart. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm sorry for a mistake of taking August 16 instead of August 15 > for husband's DOB. Correction is made as below. > > Regards, > > tw > > 1. Birth Details > > i)Husband,15-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid12-59- > 17,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22- > 14,Asc Sag08-40-42(KPAstro2.7) > > ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55- > 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25- > 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7) > > 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart > > 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN. > > 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9. > 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9) > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.) > 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6. > 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6. > > + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4- > Step Method > > i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are > signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3). > > ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child > birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in > step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative > significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2. > > 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO. > > 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11. > 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.) > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.) > 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10. > 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11. > > i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for > child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is > supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification > of 1, 10 houses in step 3). > > ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is > a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator > for child birth in step 3 & 4. > > 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to > 02-08-2008) > > 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6. > 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep. > 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9. > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.) > 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.) > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.) > > E= Empty house > > i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02- > 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & > 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 > house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 > in step 3 & 4.) > > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th > house in Step 3 & 4. > > 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart > > 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is JUP. > > 1) Plt JUP + is in 11P l/o 1, 4. > (JUP is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which JUP is > cuspal sublord.) > 2) Stl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p. > 3) Sbl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3p > 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8. > > i) As per KP, a child is promised as 11,5, 2 houses are signified in > step 1 & 2 (5, 2 houses in step 3). > > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary > significator of 11, 5 houses in Step 1 & 2 and Primary significator > of 5th house in Step 3. > > 3.2. The nearest possible Bhukti to have a child is JUP-MOO DB (21- > 10-2007 to 20-02-2009) > > 1) Plt MOO is in 6 l/o 8. > 2) Stl MAR is in 2p l/o 5, 12p. > 3) Sbl MAR is in 2 l/o 5, 12. > 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8. > > i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during MOO bhukti > because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 2 is supported by > significator of 2, 5 houses in step 3. > > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 2th house in Step 2. > > (Referring 3.1, JUP dasa is a fruitful significator to have a child.) > > 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is: > > 21-10-2007 to 14-05-2008 > > as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2. > > 5. The next possible period to have a child is: > > 03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012 > > as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) > for wife and JUP-RAH DB (26-01-2010 to 20-06-2012) for husband.. (no > so sure in husband's chart) > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > Some views are below. > > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then > here > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > only > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > people > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > > through natural processes. > > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > this > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > considered as 'Poor'. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi > dosha, > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > only, > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > Nadi have No dosha. > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. > > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. > > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they > have > > no child. > > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA - > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA > > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA- > 4 > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha > but > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > per > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > have to check all again) > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Satish, Kanak, > > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent > of > > > parents due to some negative significators. > > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > > No. > > > 10 in KP Matching. > > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would > be > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > > of > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > around > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > Diana > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > child). > > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > passion, > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > Westerners > > > and modernized Indian new generation? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > > to > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection > ( > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > > is > > > > being followed in this case. > > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > towards > > > > this issue. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > this > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty, > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > check > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > subject. > > > it > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > failore > > > and > > > > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro -- > > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01- > > 22- > > > > 09, > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m- > 26d > > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro -- > > > > > 16N31, > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52- 43, > > > Moon > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > Percentage > > > is > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > Criterion > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > 2, > > 7 > > > as > > > > > shown below.) > > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > > (Pl > > > > see > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > for > > > > which > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > > in > > > 8 > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > 7, > > 8, > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > are > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > also > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > signified > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > > per > > > > KP > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > > role > > > > > of star. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > cuspal > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > l/o > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > > RAH's > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > > cuspal > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11- 2008). > > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > > 4.4, > > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > decider > > > for > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > considered > > > as > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in > step > > 3 > > > > and > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > signification > > > of > > > > > step 1 and 2. > > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > > sublord > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in > planet > > > and > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > signification > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > signification > > > by > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > significations > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > or > > > > death, > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > > of > > > > > experience and expertise. > > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > signification > > > > by > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > Cuspal > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage > by > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 > (love > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > life, > > > > > getting dowry). > > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > separation > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > danger > > > > at > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > solely > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > house > > > > as > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty, > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of > 6 > > > > house > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > > as > > > a > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > significator > > > > of > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > only > > D- > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > in > > KP > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > Readers > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > consideration > > > of > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > > be > > > > done > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > signifying > > 2, > > > > 7, > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > is > > > RAH- > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary > Significator > > > of > > > > 7, > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, > a > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > choice. > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > cuspal > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > indicate > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > > 14- > > > 10- > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > possible > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > > Girl's > > > > > 7 house. > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > as per me: > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > > and > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl > in > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > opposition > > > > from > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > nakshatra > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > separately. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Mr. Bosmia. Thanks for your mail. In the chart Mars is posited in Asc and 4th from Moon. Suggest we should also see the spouse chart for us to have a comparison. Regards MK Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, please check below data and reply with your commnet about married life. Male 04/12/1949 23:58 PST Los Angeles, CA USA after this we will discuss some more one by one. regards Kanak BosmiaAstrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Mr. Bosmia You are welcome sir Regards MK ViswanathKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, Thanks for detiels about both chart. If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Swami I can do the matching again, but I am not sure of the girl's POB. Is it SIKANDABAD, AS SHOWN, or Secunderabad missplet. On is in Andrha the other in U.P. Mr Kanak may please check up.swami wrote: Dear Friends, Before i get the SW can some one post me Output of Matcing results of Sh Raichurs SW for the case mentioned By kanak ji for my study. Thanks in anticipation. - Kanak Bosmia Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 AM Re: Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 it is Secundrabad- APRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Swami I can do the matching again, but I am not sure of the girl's POB. Is it SIKANDABAD, AS SHOWN, or Secunderabad missplet. On is in Andrha the other in U.P. Mr Kanak may please check up.swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com wrote: Dear Friends, Before i get the SW can some one post me Output of Matcing results of Sh Raichurs SW for the case mentioned By kanak ji for my study. Thanks in anticipation. - Kanak Bosmia Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 AM Re: Re: Inter-community marriage Dear Tin Win ji, A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP, on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching. Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken. detail: BOY: GIRL Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Vishwanath ji,> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data.> as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Sirs> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof.> > Regards> Mk Viswanath> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > Thanks for your view. > > Some views are below.> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > through natural processes.> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > considered as 'Poor'.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > Nadi have No dosha.> > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > no child.> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > have to check all again)> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > No. > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > of > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > around > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > Westerners > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > to > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > is > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > towards > > > this issue.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > this > > > rule.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > check > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > > it > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > > and > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> 22-> > > 09, > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > 16N31, > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > Moon > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > > is > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > Criterion > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, > 7 > > as > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > (Pl > > > see > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > > which > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > in > > 8 > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, > 8, > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > also > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > signified > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > per > > > KP > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > role > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > RAH's > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > cuspal > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > 4.4,> > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > > for > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > considered > > as > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step > 3 > > > and > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > > of > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > sublord > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > > and > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > signification > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > signification > > by > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > significations > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > > death, > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > of > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > signification > > > by > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > Cuspal > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > life, > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > separation > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > danger > > > at > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > house > > > as > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > > empty,> > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > stars. > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > in > > > the > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > practice, > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > BLANK), > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > as > > D. > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > the > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > > the > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > > Lord > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > > house > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > as > > a > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > significator > > > of > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only > D-> > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in > KP > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > Readers > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > > of > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > be > > > done > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying > 2, > > > 7, > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > > RAH-> > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > > of > > > 7, > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > choice.> > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > indicate > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > (Likelihood > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > 14-> > 10-> > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > possible > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > Girl's > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > and > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > > from > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > nakshatra > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dear Vishwanath ji, befor i send you more information, please write clearly what is rule you follow? you have mention in mail: "8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof." so first you write what are nthe condiciton so i will send you data as per. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Mr. Bosmia. Thanks for your mail. In the chart Mars is posited in Asc and 4th from Moon. Suggest we should also see the spouse chart for us to have a comparison. Regards MK Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, please check below data and reply with your commnet about married life. Male 04/12/1949 23:58 PST Los Angeles, CA USA after this we will discuss some more one by one. regards Kanak BosmiaAstrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Mr. Bosmia You are welcome sir Regards MK ViswanathKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vishwanath ji, Thanks for detiels about both chart. If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your reply i will write more data. as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i will post some more data. regards Kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sirs In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in male chart. 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, but continue to live under one roof. Regards Mk Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi dosha.couple is Brahamin. BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney btwin both but due to child they live to gether. How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy KPDP criteria no: 10. regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,Thanks for your view. Some views are below.Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is only effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two people really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be considered because God is trying to bring the two people together through natural processes.If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in this compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of points should be ignored and the compatability should be considered as 'Poor'.Regards,tw--- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha.> 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child.> > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again)> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Satish, Kanak,> > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of > parents due to some negative significators.> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. > 10 in KP Matching.> > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).> > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners > and modernized Indian new generation?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > to > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > > being followed in this case.> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > towards > > this issue.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > this > > rule.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. > it > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore > and > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> > 09, > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > 16N31, > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > Moon > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage > is > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > Criterion > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 > as > > > shown below.)> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > > see > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > > which > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in > 8 > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > > 9. > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > signified > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > > KP > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > role > > > of star.> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > RAH's > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > cuspal > > > sublord. > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider > for > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered > as > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > > and > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification > of > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > sublord > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet > and > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > signification > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification > by > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > significations > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > > death, > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > > by > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > separation > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > > at > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > > as > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > > empty,> > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > > the > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > practice, > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > BLANK), > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as > D. > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since > the > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > > Lord > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > > house > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as > a > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > significator > > of > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > Readers > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration > of > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > > done > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > > 7, > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is > RAH-> > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator > of > > 7, > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > indicate > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > (Likelihood > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-> 10-> > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > possible > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > Girl's > > > 7 house.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > > Mumbai. > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > > from > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > separately.> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > >> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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