Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Reena, After posting about marriying prashant , i looked Prasna chart by vedic And Tajak methods. Another hint for your welfare is, use prediction only as casual and do not base your decision on it. May god bless you with fulfilment of your wish. with best wishes. - reena Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 , reena <jivani_reena wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. > > Thus My Horary No. is 239. > > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? > > > Best Regards, > Reena Jivani > > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. reena ji, i have calculated for your numbe4r 239 on 21-7-2007 at ludhiana at 7- 52 am, 7th cusp sub lord is rahu which is in 12th in its own star. this tells us you will not marry the boy in question. it is better to forget him and find new partener. hs nagi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Dear Reena, Yes you will get married in Oct 2007. This is as per No 239. The previous prediction was as per 237. Please send me an invitaion card||| God Bless You reena <jivani_reena wrote: Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Dear Swami, If all the RPs of the girl appear in the RPs of the boy,though not necessarily in the same order of strength,they will surely marry each other...is the rule...as per K.P., as far as I remember... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. "swami" <swami Sent: Friday, 20 July, 2007 9:05:20 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Reena, After posting about marriying prashant , i looked Prasna chart by vedic And Tajak methods. Another hint for your welfare is, use prediction only as casual and do not base your decision on it. May god bless you with fulfilment of your wish. with best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Dear Rao, Thanks for valuable additional input.In the case at hand, we did not had access to Birth data of Prashant.I am aware of rina bandhan rules ,that apply to judge if proposed match is going to materalise. I could have checked both by KP and intergrated(parashar & Jamini). By the way matching of Birth RP of bride and groom is understood to be karmic-bandhan yoga.Sorry i do not have reference.Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect. With regards, Swami_rcs - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:46 AM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Swami, If all the RPs of the girl appear in the RPs of the boy,though not necessarily in the same order of strength,they will surely marry each other...is the rule...as per K.P., as far as I remember... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. "swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, 20 July, 2007 9:05:20 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Reena, After posting about marriying prashant , i looked Prasna chart by vedic And Tajak methods. Another hint for your welfare is, use prediction only as casual and do not base your decision on it. May god bless you with fulfilment of your wish. with best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars. Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not? Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. > > Thus My Horary No. is 239. > > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? > > > Best Regards, > Reena Jivani > > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Dear Swami, Allow me to refer you to the Dasavidha Porutham method of matching of horoscopes as per K.P., discussed and explained in detail in the magazine K.P. & Astrology,1997 Annual,Pp 34-44,by the K.P. stalwart Mr.K.P.Kuppu Ganapati, an illustrious student of KSK... Mr.A.R. Raichur has also developed a Software based on this... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! "swami" <swami Sent: Monday, 23 July, 2007 10:38:51 AMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Rao, Thanks for valuable additional input.In the case at hand, we did not had access to Birth data of Prashant.I am aware of rina bandhan rules ,that apply to judge if proposed match is going to materalise. I could have checked both by KP and intergrated( parashar & Jamini). By the way matching of Birth RP of bride and groom is understood to be karmic-bandhan yoga.Sorry i do not have reference.Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect. With regards, Swami_rcs - Yogesh Rao Lajmi @gro ups.com Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:46 AM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Swami, If all the RPs of the girl appear in the RPs of the boy,though not necessarily in the same order of strength,they will surely marry each other...is the rule...as per K.P., as far as I remember... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. "swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comFriday, 20 July, 2007 9:05:20 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Reena, After posting about marriying prashant , i looked Prasna chart by vedic And Tajak methods. Another hint for your welfare is, use prediction only as casual and do not base your decision on it. May god bless you with fulfilment of your wish. with best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 This is not a well developed theory, but is postulated by some practioners, from practical cases. Try it out. Good Luck Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rSunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe > wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Raichurji, Please state the theory. Neptune should be in 11th or 12th ? From Asc or from the bhabha in question? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM RE: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind This is not a well developed theory, but is postulated by some practioners, from practical cases. Try it out. Good Luck Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe > wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars. Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not? Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. > > Thus My Horary No. is 239. > > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? > > > Best Regards, > Reena Jivani > > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 dear sir, results of neptune is not yet confirmed. i have seen on case whose nep.in on 7th cusp married with elder girl in second case marriage was abnormally delayed but celebrated in third case there was deception after marriage. so more cases to be handled,but pluto gives negation -sunil gondhalekarRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: This is not a well developed theory, but is postulated by some practioners, from practical cases. Try it out. Good Luck Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rSunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe > wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 The theory,(still being tested on practical examples), is that Neptune negates the results of the house where he is posited. This is not proved yet, so may not be taken as a rule. An article in Nakshatra Dena deals with 2 cases. This was translated and is in Kpezine, June 2007.Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Raichurji, Please state the theory. Neptune should be in 11th or 12th ? From Asc or from the bhabha in question? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rWednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind This is not a well developed theory, but is postulated by some practioners, from practical cases. Try it out. Good Luck Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rSunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe > wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear friends, I read about Neptune in Reader MMM & C by Guruji KSK under heading "CANT's Change Fate- Marriages Two" on page 184. It was a case Where Nepyune was exactly in the 7 th cusp of the boy and He got the Vii cusp in cancer 16D56M.He was told That this boy should be having Two wives and the first wives should be deceptive. Please readon. Naturally position of Neptune in VII cusp need careful observation. I do not know if this aspect have been researched by any one. With regards. Swamircs - Raichur-a-r Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:42 AM RE: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind The theory,(still being tested on practical examples), is that Neptune negates the results of the house where he is posited. This is not proved yet, so may not be taken as a rule. An article in Nakshatra Dena deals with 2 cases. This was translated and is in Kpezine, June 2007.Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Raichurji, Please state the theory. Neptune should be in 11th or 12th ? From Asc or from the bhabha in question? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rWednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind This is not a well developed theory, but is postulated by some practioners, from practical cases. Try it out. Good Luck Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Raichurji This theory of negation of expected outcome by presence of Neptune is is not known to me. Will you please elaborate it? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rSunday, July 22, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th,and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. babukrcbe <babukrcbe > wrote: Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses : 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sublord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. I request RaichurJi and SunilJi to comment and kindly correct me, if anything is wrong. Disclaimer to Reena: I'm not a KP expert but novice and trying help of KP stalwarts of this community to become a KP expert. I may be totally wrong in my prediction. Experts may help answering your question. Regards, K.Babu , reena <jivani_reena wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.> > Thus My Horary No. is 239.> > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?> > > Best Regards,> Reena Jivani> > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay T el 2506 2609 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Reena, May god bless you both with happy life and long journey together. Thanks for feed back . List members are requested to shed light, how analysis got wrong. with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - reena Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Date: Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - “Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that “Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani” “Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes.” “By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena” After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly “Will I marry Prashant?” So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.comFriday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear Dr., I certainly go with you sir! We must judge the 11th cusp for the fulfilment of her desire. Also the Moon (manokaraka)Lord of 5 in 7 and the sub is Saturn who decides is in 5 lord of 11. So 5 ,7, 11 combination which implies the positive result to her. But the Andhra when it comes to Rahu (representative of saturn)the marriage happened. The RPs were satrurn,(Rahu) mars, mercury, moon and venus. We can see Rahu is also Sub for VII cusp. Dear sir, I have a doubt ..venus is a RP but not a good significator also in the SUB of Jupiter(Retrograte).Hence Venus may not a good result giver. The Period analysis: After the Saturn andhra, Mercury: upto 15/12/2007: Here mercury is RP. Also Sub for XI cusp. But located in 4 and its starL Rahu in 12 (4,12) which is against her Love fulfilment. So we can skip. next, Ketu and Venus : not Good significators Sun : Lord of 6in 4. But its StarL Saturn is a good Significator. So skip! moon : Lord of 5 in 7: is good. and also a RP. 23/5/2008 to 11/8/2008. but marriage did not happen.To analysis this if we look at the Sun's Trasit on those period. Sun was in Venus House(Rishaba) and then in Mercury which are not supporting. Then comes in the Cancer (moon's), in that when it travelled in the star of Satrun from 27/7/2008. but that time Mars Andhra(11/7/2008 to 12/8/2008) was running which is in 2(Lord of 2,9) and its starLord Venus is in 6. Hence, the result may not be expected. Then when sun moves in Mercury Star (from 3/8/2008), it is ready for the fulfillment. But waited till the Mars to end(12/8/2008). Then came the Rahu adhra (from 13/8/2008 to 7/11/2008). So in this period, when Sun and Moon were travelling in the favorable link of the RP planets, the marriage happened. But the Marriage happened on 15/8/2008 on Friday. Also the Sun and Moon's Position on Transit: Sun :Moon-mercury-Saturn (Rasi-SL-Sub) Moon :Saturn-sun- Venus (Rasi-Sl-Sub) Here Moon was traveling in Sun star. Sun was not a RP while analysing. But Sun was in the star and sub of Saturn which was a RP and good significator. May be this is the reason? Also here the Moon was traveling in SUb of Venus?!(in transit). I could realise to find whether the matter will happen or not seems to be easier than arriving the time of happening. Dear Seniors, pls advise your expertized opinion on this so that it will be more useful for all. Thanks and Regards Adith , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear members, > With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. > The messages were as follows: - > �Respected Sir, > � > Today after my daily puja I thought that �Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239.� > Thus My Horary No. is 239.� > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind?� > � > Best Regards, > Reena Jivani� > � > �Dear Reena, > I attempted with number 239�furnished.. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was�caste at 20:40:35. > I find you are not marrying Prashant. > Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is�significator of VI and XII only.) > With best wishes.� > � > �By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. > Reena� > � > After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. > Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. > � > Horary chart > � > � > Asc 12-53-20 � > � > II 18-55-57 > Mars 24-20-20 � > � > III 16-33-43 � > � > IV 10-33-40 > Mer 13-29-41 > � > Rahu 15-10-41 > XII 4-37-31 � > Horary no�� :�� 239 > � > Dasa balance�� :�� Moon > �� Till�� 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 > V 5-09-21 > � > � > XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 > VI 4-37-31 > Ven 8-09-27 > Ket 15-10-41 > � > � > X 10-33-40 � > � > IX 16-33-43 > <Jup 16-31-28 � > � > VIII 18-55-57 > � � > VII 12-53-20 > Mon 15-46-42 > � > � > Cusps���������� Star lord� Sub-lord > 1st house ���� ��Sa������������ Ma������ > 2nd house���� � Ve�������� ����Ra������ > 3rd house ��� ��Mo������������ Sa������ > 4th house����� � Ra������������ Sa������ > 5th house ���� �Sa������������ Sa������ > 6th house ���� �Ke������������ Mo������ > 7th house ���� �Mo������������ Ra������ > 8th house ���� �Ra������������ Mo������ > 9th house� ��� Sa���� ��������Ju������ > 10th house��� Ke������������ Sa������ > 11th house �� Su������������ Me������ > 12th house �� Ma������������ Ve������ Planets�� Star lord���� Sub-lord > � > � > Sun���������� Sa������������ Sa������ > Moon������� Mo������������ Sa������ > Mars�������� Ve ������������Me������ > Mercury��� Ra������������ Me������ > Jupiter������ Sa������������ Ju������ > Venus������� Ke������������ Ju������ > Saturn������� Ke������������ Ke������ > Rahu�������� Ra������������ Ke������ > Kethu������� Ve������������ Ve������ > � > The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly �Will I marry Prashant?� > So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. > ��� Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? > XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. > It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. > V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. > � > I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. > Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. > � > With due regards. > � > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > ________________________________ > reena <jivani_reena > > Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM > Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind > > > Dear Sir, > > By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. > > Regards, > > Reena Jivani > > --- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: > > swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> > Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind > @gro ups.com > Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM > > > Dear Reena, > I attempted with number 239�furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02� . prasna was�caste at �20:40:35. > I find , You are not marriying Prashant . > Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is� significator of VI and XII only..) > With best wishes. > - > reena > @gro ups.com > Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM > Will I marry a person in my Mind > > Respected Sir, > > Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. > > Thus My Horary No. is 239. > > Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? > > > Best Regards, > Reena Jivani > > ________________________________ > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Thanks Dr Luther, Your analysis is really convincing. Here are excerpts for reference and furher comments in the case . This is for saving time for members who wants to consider case for exploring correct approach. 1. Dear Reena, Yes you will get married in Oct 2007. This is as per No 239. The previous prediction was as per 237. Please send me an invitation card||| God Bless You Raichur. 2. I have calculated for your numbe4r 239 on 21-7-2007 at ludhiana at 7- 52 am, 7th cusp sub lord is rahu which is in 12th in its own star. this tells us you will not marry the boy in question.it is better to forget him and find new partner. hs nagi 3. · Dear Members/Reena, I did a horary per no 239 on 18Hr:33min July 20th, 2007, City pittsburgh, USA. Ruling Planets are -> Me, Mo, Ju, Ke & Ve (None of the planets are in star of retrograde planets even though Ju is in retrograde). Horary Asc : Pisces in constellation of saturn and sublord of mars.Moon : Moon in Virgo in its own constellation and sublord of rahu. Query genuine or not?Moon sign is 7th from asc indicating querrant mood is related to marriage. Moon's sublord is Rahu which indicates that querrent is anxious for matter related to her marriage. Hence the question is genuine. Houses to be considered Main house : 5th house [For love marriage] Related houses: 7th & 11th house [indicating love leading to marriage and hence fulfilling the desire] 4Step Analysis: 5th Cuspal sublord = Rahu Planet --> Rahu --> 1st STEP --> *12P [sa--> 6,11,12] Star lord of rahu: Ra --> 2nd STEP --> *12P [6P, 11P,12] Sublord of rahu : Ke--> 3rd STEP --> 6 [sun--> +5P,6] Starlord of sublord Ke : Ve --> 4th STEP --> 6p,3p,8 Important note : Neptune is in 11th house Interpretation: There is a primary signification for fulfillment of desire (11th house signification) in the 2nd STEP but the 3rd & 4th STEP doesn't favor as 6th house is primarily signified by the star lord of the sub lord Ke. Also Neptune is in 11th house causing hurdles in the matter signified. Because of 11th house signification in 2nd STEP and 3rd house signification in 4th STEP leads to negotiation/talks and thus can give hopes...but eventually the event will not fructify. This is in my humble opinion. Result: The answer is negative. 4. July 22 2007 Dear Babu Your analysis seems correct. BUT with Neptune in 11th, and cusp of 12.. So the answer will be in the positive, because of Neptune.. Lets us await the reality and then decide. Raichur. 5. · 26 july 2007 The theory,(still being tested on practical examples), is that Neptune negates the results of the house where he is posited. This is not proved yet, so may not be taken as a rule. An article in Nakshatra Dena deals with 2 cases. This was translated and is in Kpezine, June 2007. dear sir, results of neptune is not yet confirmed. i have seen on case whose nep.in on 7th cusp married with elder girl in second case marriage was abnormally delayed but celebrated in third case there was deception after marriage. so more cases to be handled, but pluto gives negation -sunil gondhalekar 6. · 20 july 2007. Dear Reena, After posting about marriying prashant , i looked Prasna chart by vedic And Tajak methods. Another hint for your welfare is, use prediction only as casual and do not base your decision on it. May god bless you with fulfillment of your wish? With best wishes. My thaks for Dr Luther for his posing. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Luther Rath Cc: reena Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - “Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that “Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani” “Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes.” “By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena” After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly “Will I marry Prashant?” So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.comFriday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the " wish " of marring " somebody " mentioned. If this would have been just a question of " will I marry " , I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant " and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear Sir, Yes, there is no wrong in coroborating the 7th house/cusp besides of course 11th cusp. as you have said, had the question be "will I marry". In her question there was found not a bit of doubt of marrying. It was nderstood that emphasis was on the groom. Secondly, in horary, the chart reflects the answer of only the primary query. It may not show all other related issues. The question of enquering over phone or through a letter does not affect the prediction. Earlier there was a doubt as to which moment shoude be taken for erecting the chart of horary, the time when the consultant puts the query, the time when the astrologer receives the message or the time when the astrologer has an urge to explore. Now I suppose all will agree that the time when the astrologer has the urge to examine should be the moment for ereting the horary chart. So the means of communication may not bear any importance. I wish to congratulate Reena for her marriage to her liked groom and at the same time extend my thanks for the feed back. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:14:51 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the "wish" of marring "somebody" mentioned. If this would have been just a question of "will I marry", I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena@ > @gro ups.comFriday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear friends, Faiure is great teacher!Provided we take a lession from it. Now i came to know, Querent asked sri raichur ji directly, so Divine plan was supportive.Urge was genuine.Approach to astrologer was perfect and Mr Raichur ji was prompted to help.Undoubtedly three conditons of prasna were met. This was not a case with others. I checked my files but i had changed Lptop around feb 2008, I had no trace how i worked this case,but i gather and guess From supplimentary posting collected from group-list that I was not convinced by my conclusion arrived. It will be interesting to watch, could it be a factor That even by KP correct prediction is a casualiy rather than usual outcome? Because questions are asked to a group without specific addressing a astrologer. May be ,wrong presumption .Just a thought. may seniors guide us to truth. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Punit Pandey Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:14 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the "wish" of marring "somebody" mentioned. If this would have been just a question of "will I marry", I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 hi,friends In Reena's Horary chart 7th sub lord Rahu an agent of Saturn..Saturn himself lord of 11th and posited in 5th house. It clearly shows its a love marriage(or marriage with self interested person). and 7th sub lord Rahu posited in 12 th it shows inter caste /sub sect/.(sorry according to rules). in horary chart in certain queries we need not to see fulfilment of desire(its my past experience).here her Q's is about marriage with a particular person. for this we 1st see 7th sub lord significance.if 7th sub lord signifies 5th or 11th its a love marriage or with a self chosen person ..if 7th sub lord signifies 12 th also then its a inter caste /sub sect/ or marriage with a foreigner. in my past 20 yrs experience i have observed this.when ever Rahu comes into picture in marriage cases ,some thing against to traditions. sorry reena ji if any thing wrong in my astro views. kp A ak --- On Sat, 13/12/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Date: Saturday, 13 December, 2008, 8:02 PM Dear Sir, Yes, there is no wrong in coroborating the 7th house/cusp besides of course 11th cusp. as you have said, had the question be "will I marry". In her question there was found not a bit of doubt of marrying. It was nderstood that emphasis was on the groom. Secondly, in horary, the chart reflects the answer of only the primary query. It may not show all other related issues. The question of enquering over phone or through a letter does not affect the prediction. Earlier there was a doubt as to which moment shoude be taken for erecting the chart of horary, the time when the consultant puts the query, the time when the astrologer receives the message or the time when the astrologer has an urge to explore. Now I suppose all will agree that the time when the astrologer has the urge to examine should be the moment for ereting the horary chart. So the means of communication may not bear any importance. I wish to congratulate Reena for her marriage to her liked groom and at the same time extend my thanks for the feed back. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, December 13, 2008 5:14:51 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the "wish" of marring "somebody" mentioned. If this would have been just a question of "will I marry", I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena@ > @gro ups.comFriday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 dear all, there is one more thought, if the question is asked by some one weather his/her marriage will be fixed with some particular person, if we check 7th sub lord is in fixed sign then it is yes. regards hs nagi--- On Sat, 13/12/08, Nageswara Rao <_akella wrote: Nageswara Rao <_akellaRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Date: Saturday, 13 December, 2008, 9:16 AM hi,friends In Reena's Horary chart 7th sub lord Rahu an agent of Saturn...Saturn himself lord of 11th and posited in 5th house. It clearly shows its a love marriage(or marriage with self interested person). and 7th sub lord Rahu posited in 12 th it shows inter caste /sub sect/.(sorry according to rules). in horary chart in certain queries we need not to see fulfilment of desire(its my past experience). here her Q's is about marriage with a particular person. for this we 1st see 7th sub lord significance. if 7th sub lord signifies 5th or 11th its a love marriage or with a self chosen person ..if 7th sub lord signifies 12 th also then its a inter caste /sub sect/ or marriage with a foreigner. in my past 20 yrs experience i have observed this.when ever Rahu comes into picture in marriage cases ,some thing against to traditions. sorry reena ji if any thing wrong in my astro views. kp A ak --- On Sat, 13/12/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.comSaturday, 13 December, 2008, 8:02 PM Dear Sir, Yes, there is no wrong in coroborating the 7th house/cusp besides of course 11th cusp. as you have said, had the question be "will I marry". In her question there was found not a bit of doubt of marrying. It was nderstood that emphasis was on the groom. Secondly, in horary, the chart reflects the answer of only the primary query. It may not show all other related issues. The question of enquering over phone or through a letter does not affect the prediction. Earlier there was a doubt as to which moment shoude be taken for erecting the chart of horary, the time when the consultant puts the query, the time when the astrologer receives the message or the time when the astrologer has an urge to explore. Now I suppose all will agree that the time when the astrologer has the urge to examine should be the moment for ereting the horary chart. So the means of communication may not bear any importance. I wish to congratulate Reena for her marriage to her liked groom and at the same time extend my thanks for the feed back. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, December 13, 2008 5:14:51 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the "wish" of marring "somebody" mentioned. If this would have been just a question of "will I marry", I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena@ > @gro ups.comFriday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Dear Nageswarji, Thanks a lot for your valuable views. Your views shall be considered and tested in future. Every one of us should give due importance to views of others with open mind. I would request Reena to feed back if the marriage was an inter-cast one, if she does not have any objection to it. We should not look down up on such marriages. No cast and no religion is a bar for marriage now a days.Such marriages are already accepted in the society. Due Regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Nageswara Rao <_akella Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:46:54 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind hi,friends In Reena's Horary chart 7th sub lord Rahu an agent of Saturn..Saturn himself lord of 11th and posited in 5th house. It clearly shows its a love marriage(or marriage with self interested person). and 7th sub lord Rahu posited in 12 th it shows inter caste /sub sect/.(sorry according to rules). in horary chart in certain queries we need not to see fulfilment of desire(its my past experience). here her Q's is about marriage with a particular person. for this we 1st see 7th sub lord significance. if 7th sub lord signifies 5th or 11th its a love marriage or with a self chosen person ..if 7th sub lord signifies 12 th also then its a inter caste /sub sect/ or marriage with a foreigner. in my past 20 yrs experience i have observed this.when ever Rahu comes into picture in marriage cases ,some thing against to traditions. sorry reena ji if any thing wrong in my astro views. kp A ak --- On Sat, 13/12/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.comSaturday, 13 December, 2008, 8:02 PM Dear Sir, Yes, there is no wrong in coroborating the 7th house/cusp besides of course 11th cusp. as you have said, had the question be "will I marry". In her question there was found not a bit of doubt of marrying. It was nderstood that emphasis was on the groom. Secondly, in horary, the chart reflects the answer of only the primary query. It may not show all other related issues. The question of enquering over phone or through a letter does not affect the prediction. Earlier there was a doubt as to which moment shoude be taken for erecting the chart of horary, the time when the consultant puts the query, the time when the astrologer receives the message or the time when the astrologer has an urge to explore. Now I suppose all will agree that the time when the astrologer has the urge to examine should be the moment for ereting the horary chart. So the means of communication may not bear any importance. I wish to congratulate Reena for her marriage to her liked groom and at the same time extend my thanks for the feed back. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, December 13, 2008 5:14:51 PMRe: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Luther ji & Friends, When I first saw this message recently from Reena ji, my first impression was also the same that the 11th house should be considered because the question is pertaining to the "wish" of marring "somebody" mentioned. If this would have been just a question of "will I marry", I think, taking 7th cusp had been correct. But as we know, all houses function in collaborative fashion, 7th house should not have denied it altogether. Probably there is something else as well. It would be helpful to know opinion of senior members of this forum. Another thought I have is that the question was asked on phone to Raichur ji and not to the forum. Does it has to do something with the failure? As we know that Raichur ji's answer was in affirmative, though timing has gone off the mark. I want to thank Reena ji for sharing her feedback. Feedback is a great learning tool and who ever is taking help from this forum for their personal problems is requested to keep sharing their feedback. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear members, With due respect and regards to all, I would like to present this re-evaluation of a horary chart for consideration. The messages were as follows: - "Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that "Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani" "Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished. On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02. prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find you are not marrying Prashant. Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP, rest all were. (7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes." "By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008. Reena" After going through the above messages I wanted to review the original horary chart. I cast a chart for the location 27 N 11; 78 E 02 and plotted the cusps for Horary number 239. I hope I am not wrong. Next I plotted the planets for 20-40-35 Hrs on 20th July 2007. Horary chart Asc 12-53-20 II 18-55-57 Mars 24-20-20 III 16-33-43 IV 10-33-40 Mer 13-29-41 Rahu 15-10-41 XII 4-37-31 Horary no : 239 Dasa balance : Moon Till 18-03-2013 Sun 3-40-43 V 5-09-21 XI 5-09-21 Sat 0=38-54 VI 4-37-31 Ven 8-09-27 Ket 15-10-41 X 10-33-40 IX 16-33-43 <Jup 16-31-28 VIII 18-55-57 VII 12-53-20 Mon 15-46-42 Cusps Star lord Sub-lord 1st house Sa Ma 2nd house Ve Ra 3rd house Mo Sa 4th house Ra Sa 5th house Sa Sa 6th house Ke Mo 7th house Mo Ra 8th house Ra Mo 9th house Sa Ju 10th house Ke Sa 11th house Su Me 12th house Ma Ve Planets Star lord Sub-lord Sun Sa Sa Moon Mo Sa Mars Ve Me Mercury Ra Me Jupiter Sa Ju Venus Ke Ju Saturn Ke Ke Rahu Ra Ke Kethu Ve Ve The query was not whether she would marry at all. Her query was clearly "Will I marry Prashant?" So instead of considering the VII cusp, I wanted to examine XI cusp to see whether her desire shall be fulfilled. Whether her desire shall be fulfilled? XI cusp sub-lord is Mercury that is lord of VII (house of marriage). So, her desire shall be fulfilled. It came to my mind when she has a person in her mind, she has at least inclination towards Prashant whether she loves him or otherwise. So I wanted to examine the V cusp as well. V cusp sub-lord is Saturn .Saturn is lord of XI and occupant of V. So her inclination towards a particular person (Prasant) shall conclude in to marriage. I believe we should follow this procedure to answer to questions of this type. Comments from seniors shall be cordially invited. With due regards. Dr. Luther Rath. reena <jivani_reena@ > @gro ups.comFriday, December 12, 2008 2:10:47 PM Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind Dear Sir, By the grace of God I married prashant on August 15, 2008.. Regards, Reena Jivani--- On Fri, 7/20/07, swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Will I marry a person in my Mind@gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:50 PM Dear Reena, I attempted with number 239 furnished .On 20 July 2007 at 27N11 and 78E02 . prasna was caste at 20:40:35. I find , You are not marriying Prashant . Surprisingly At casting time Guru and Venus were absent from List of RP,rest all were.(7CSL Rahu is significator of VI and XII only.) With best wishes. - reena @gro ups.com Friday, July 20, 2007 10:22 AM Will I marry a person in my Mind Respected Sir, Today after my daily puja I thought that " Will I marry Prashant" and opened bhagawat Gita, The right hand side page no. was 239. Thus My Horary No. is 239. Pls guide me whether I will marry a person in my mind? Best Regards, Reena Jivani Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. 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