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CHILD SEX

 

1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961, 19:45

DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA 23:13:46,

Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born, 15-09-

1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to be

judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on. Any

abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the 11th

(5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house for

the second child and so on.

 

2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

 

(Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book on

Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

 

2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th cusp

sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them and

the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by the

sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female child.

Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and conj.

and aspecting planets.

 

2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is in

the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet. Sun,

Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a MALE

CHILD.

 

3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

 

3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

sublords of those three sublords.

 

3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

indicates a MALE CHILD.

 

4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

 

(provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

 

4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord of

the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having male

sex and one female sex.

 

4.2. In Diana's chart,

 

5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

 

Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

 

Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

 

Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

 

Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius, there

is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE CHILD

 

5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

 

(K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

 

5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the Sun

Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the second

half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora and

the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star of

the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be judged.

If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the star

lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

 

5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of the

5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora, i.e

FEMALE CHILD.

 

6. CKV METHOD

 

(by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan Krishnamoorthy)

 

http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

 

6.1. The procedure is:

 

1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is either

Male or Female.

 

2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K. (Note:

Sublord is excluded.)

 

3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

 

4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear in

the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th CSL).

Let this count be L.

 

5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

 

6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the native.

If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of the

native.

 

6.2. In Diana's chart,

 

1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

 

2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

 

3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

 

4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

 

5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

 

6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G, which is

FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

 

7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

 

(provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

 

7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the first

born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7 lagna,

while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is determined

from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the lord of

the 9 th house).

 

1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is exalted,

or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

 

2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or Gemini or

Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or female

planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

 

 

7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-7

lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first child is

a MALE CHILD.

 

8. DR. JONAS METHOD

 

8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

 

1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the recurrence

of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation, the

probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

 

2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception in

odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

 

3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect the

viability of the embryo. (Risk)

 

8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table form

below at the following link:

 

http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

 

Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

 

Date Time Gender Risk

24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

 

8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24 hours

before the moment specified in the above table. The difference in

timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk Factor

('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

 

8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due date'

for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981. The

Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above table is

a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex can be

predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of desired

sex.

 

 

 

 

, siva sankar rao adigopula

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>

> Dear friends,

>

>

> We will try to discuss on any one subject

> that is benificial to all members of the group

>

> Now the topic is

>

> What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

>

>

> Please send your own experience to the group.

> All astrologers are requested to participation

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Sankar Rao

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Siva Sankar Rao, In my recent experience the best method of Gender Slecion has been inunciated by Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar, in his 4-step theory/method...Even Mr.A.R.Raichur and many K.P. Astrologers are very satisfied with the results that it gives...and has also written about it... The accuracy rate approaches 98%... With

best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro wrote: Dear friends,We will try to discuss on any one subject that is benificial to all members of the groupNow the topic is What is the best method for "GENDER" selection?Please send your own experience to the group.All astrologers are requested to participation Warm regards,Sankar Rao Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Dear All,

Predicting sex of an unborn child is legally banned in India; it is a

punishable crime!

sujatkaram. , " tw853 " <tw853

wrote:

>

> CHILD SEX

>

> 1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

> explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961, 19:45

> DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA 23:13:46,

> Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born, 15-

09-

> 1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to be

> judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on. Any

> abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the 11th

> (5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house for

> the second child and so on.

>

> 2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

>

> (Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

> Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book on

> Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

>

> 2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th cusp

> sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them and

> the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by the

> sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female child.

> Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and conj.

> and aspecting planets.

>

> 2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is in

> the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

> Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet. Sun,

> Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a MALE

> CHILD.

>

> 3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

>

> 3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

> occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

> first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

> sublords of those three sublords.

>

> 3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

> sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

> Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

> whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

> Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

> indicates a MALE CHILD.

>

> 4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

>

> (provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

>

> 4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

> signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

> planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord of

> the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

> occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having

male

> sex and one female sex.

>

> 4.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

>

> Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

>

> Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

>

> Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

>

> Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

> child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius, there

> is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE CHILD

>

> 5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

>

> (K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

>

> 5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the Sun

> Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

> signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the second

> half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora and

> the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star of

> the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be judged.

> If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the

star

> lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

>

> 5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of the

> 5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

> Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora, i.e

> FEMALE CHILD.

>

> 6. CKV METHOD

>

> (by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan Krishnamoorthy)

>

> http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

>

> 6.1. The procedure is:

>

> 1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

> Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is

either

> Male or Female.

>

> 2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> 5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K. (Note:

> Sublord is excluded.)

>

> 3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

>

> 4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear in

> the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th CSL).

> Let this count be L.

>

> 5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

>

> 6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the native.

> If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of the

> native.

>

> 6.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

>

> 2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

>

> 3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

>

> 4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

>

> 5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

>

> 6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G, which

is

> FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

>

> 7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

>

> (provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

>

> 7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the

first

> born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7 lagna,

> while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is determined

> from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the lord

of

> the 9 th house).

>

> 1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

> posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is exalted,

> or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

>

> 2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

> which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or Gemini

or

> Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or

female

> planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

>

>

> 7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-7

> lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first child

is

> a MALE CHILD.

>

> 8. DR. JONAS METHOD

>

> 8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

>

> 1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the recurrence

> of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

> woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation,

the

> probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

>

> 2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception in

> odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

>

> 3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect the

> viability of the embryo. (Risk)

>

> 8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table form

> below at the following link:

>

> http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

>

> Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

>

> Date Time Gender Risk

> 24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

> 22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

> 24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

> 23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

> 23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

> 21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

> 20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

> 19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

> 17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

> 16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

> 15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

> 14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

>

> 8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24

hours

> before the moment specified in the above table. The difference in

> timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

> calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk

Factor

> ('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

>

> 8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due date'

> for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

> menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981. The

> Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above table

is

> a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex can

be

> predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

> which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of desired

> sex.

>

>

>

>

> , siva sankar rao adigopula

> <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> >

> > We will try to discuss on any one subject

> > that is benificial to all members of the group

> >

> > Now the topic is

> >

> > What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

> >

> >

> > Please send your own experience to the group.

> > All astrologers are requested to participation

> >

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Sankar Rao

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

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dear tinwin,

 

you are simply a wonderful person and great contributer in astrology.

 

you should give your views also.

 

any how it is wonderful compilation.

regards

hs nagi

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> CHILD SEX

>

> 1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

> explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961, 19:45

> DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA 23:13:46,

> Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born, 15-

09-

> 1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to be

> judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on.

Any

> abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the

11th

> (5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house

for

> the second child and so on.

>

> 2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

>

> (Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

> Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book on

> Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

>

> 2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th cusp

> sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them and

> the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by the

> sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female child.

> Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and conj.

> and aspecting planets.

>

> 2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is in

> the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

> Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet. Sun,

> Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a MALE

> CHILD.

>

> 3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

>

> 3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

> occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

> first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

> sublords of those three sublords.

>

> 3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

> sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

> Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

> whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

> Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

> indicates a MALE CHILD.

>

> 4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

>

> (provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

>

> 4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

> signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

> planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord

of

> the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

> occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having

male

> sex and one female sex.

>

> 4.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

>

> Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

>

> Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

>

> Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

>

> Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

> child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius,

there

> is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE CHILD

>

> 5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

>

> (K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

>

> 5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the

Sun

> Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

> signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the second

> half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora and

> the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star of

> the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be judged.

> If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the

star

> lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

>

> 5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of

the

> 5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

> Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora, i.e

> FEMALE CHILD.

>

> 6. CKV METHOD

>

> (by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan Krishnamoorthy)

>

> http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

>

> 6.1. The procedure is:

>

> 1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

> Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is

either

> Male or Female.

>

> 2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> 5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K. (Note:

> Sublord is excluded.)

>

> 3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

>

> 4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear in

> the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th

CSL).

> Let this count be L.

>

> 5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

>

> 6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the

native.

> If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of the

> native.

>

> 6.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

>

> 2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

>

> 3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

>

> 4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

>

> 5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

>

> 6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G, which

is

> FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

>

> 7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

>

> (provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

>

> 7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the

first

> born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7

lagna,

> while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is determined

> from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the lord

of

> the 9 th house).

>

> 1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

> posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is

exalted,

> or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

>

> 2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

> which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or Gemini

or

> Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or

female

> planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

>

>

> 7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-7

> lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first child

is

> a MALE CHILD.

>

> 8. DR. JONAS METHOD

>

> 8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

>

> 1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the recurrence

> of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

> woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation,

the

> probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

>

> 2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception

in

> odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

>

> 3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect the

> viability of the embryo. (Risk)

>

> 8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table

form

> below at the following link:

>

> http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

>

> Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

>

> Date Time Gender Risk

> 24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

> 22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

> 24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

> 23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

> 23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

> 21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

> 20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

> 19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

> 17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

> 16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

> 15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

> 14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

>

> 8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24

hours

> before the moment specified in the above table. The difference in

> timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

> calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk

Factor

> ('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

>

> 8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due date'

> for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

> menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981.

The

> Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above table

is

> a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex can

be

> predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

> which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of desired

> sex.

>

>

>

>

> , siva sankar rao adigopula

> <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> >

> > We will try to discuss on any one subject

> > that is benificial to all members of the group

> >

> > Now the topic is

> >

> > What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

> >

> >

> > Please send your own experience to the group.

> > All astrologers are requested to participation

> >

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Sankar Rao

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

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Dear All,

 

Four Step Child Sex Method

 

(by Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar as mentioned in the House Grouping of " A

STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY " in the File section of this Group)

 

1. If the planet of 5th sublord at 4th step (starlord of 5th

sublord's sublord) is in the `odd'

sign, a `male' child is indicated; in the even sign, a female child.

 

2. In the example chart of Diana,

 

1) 5th sublord Saturn is in the star of Sun, which is in the odd

sign Ge. (First child son

Williams born)

 

2) 7th sublord Rahu is in the star of Ketu, which is in the odd sign

Aq. (Second child son

Henry born)

 

3. Some TOB AA-rated Charts

 

1) Christina Onassis: 5th sublord Mercury is in the star of Venus,

which is in the odd sign Sg. (Only daughter Athina born on 29-01-

1985)

 

2) Jane Fonda: (a) 5th sublord Venus is in the star of Mercury,

which is in the odd sign Sg. (First child daughter Vanessa born on

28-09-1968); (b) 7th sublord Saturn is in its own star Saturn, which

is in the even sign Pi. (Second child son Tony born on 07-07-

1973)

 

3) Julia Roberts: (a) 5th sublord Sun is in the star of Rahu, which

is in the odd sign Ar. (Twins daughter Patricia and son Walter born

on 28-11-2004); (a) 7th and 9th sublord Saturn is in its own star

Saturn, which is in the even sign Pi. (Third child son Henry born

on 18-06-2007).

 

4) Sophia Loren: (a) 5th sublord Jupiter is in the star of Mars,

which is in the evn sign Cn. (First child son Carlo born on 29-12-

1968); (b) 7th sublord mercury is in the star of Moon, which is in

the even sign Cp. (Second child son Edoardo born on 06-01-1973)

 

5) Whitney Houston: 5th sublord Venus is in the star of Mercury,

which is in the odd sign

Le. (First child daughter Kristina born on 04-03-12-1993.

 

 

No method is full proof.

 

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> CHILD SEX

>

> 1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

> explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961, 19:45

> DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA 23:13:46,

> Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born, 15-

09-

> 1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to be

> judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on.

Any

> abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the

11th

> (5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house

for

> the second child and so on.

>

> 2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

>

> (Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

> Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book on

> Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

>

> 2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th cusp

> sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them and

> the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by the

> sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female child.

> Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and conj.

> and aspecting planets.

>

> 2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is in

> the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

> Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet. Sun,

> Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a MALE

> CHILD.

>

> 3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

>

> 3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

> occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

> first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

> sublords of those three sublords.

>

> 3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

> sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

> Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

> whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

> Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

> indicates a MALE CHILD.

>

> 4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

>

> (provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

>

> 4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

> signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

> planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord

of

> the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

> occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having

male

> sex and one female sex.

>

> 4.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

>

> Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

>

> Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

>

> Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

>

> Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

> indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

> child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius,

there

> is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE CHILD

>

> 5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

>

> (K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

>

> 5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the

Sun

> Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

> signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the second

> half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora and

> the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star of

> the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be judged.

> If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the

star

> lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

>

> 5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of

the

> 5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

> Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora, i.e

> FEMALE CHILD.

>

> 6. CKV METHOD

>

> (by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan Krishnamoorthy)

>

> http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

>

> 6.1. The procedure is:

>

> 1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

> Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is

either

> Male or Female.

>

> 2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> 5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K. (Note:

> Sublord is excluded.)

>

> 3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as the

> signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

>

> 4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear in

> the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th

CSL).

> Let this count be L.

>

> 5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

>

> 6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the

native.

> If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of the

> native.

>

> 6.2. In Diana's chart,

>

> 1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

>

> 2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

>

> 3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

>

> 4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

>

> 5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

>

> 6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G, which

is

> FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

>

> 7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

>

> (provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

>

> 7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the

first

> born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7

lagna,

> while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is determined

> from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the lord

of

> the 9 th house).

>

> 1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

> posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is

exalted,

> or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

>

> 2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

> which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or Gemini

or

> Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or

female

> planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

>

>

> 7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-7

> lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first child

is

> a MALE CHILD.

>

> 8. DR. JONAS METHOD

>

> 8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

>

> 1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the recurrence

> of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

> woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation,

the

> probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

>

> 2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception

in

> odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

>

> 3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect the

> viability of the embryo. (Risk)

>

> 8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table

form

> below at the following link:

>

> http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

>

> Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

>

> Date Time Gender Risk

> 24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

> 22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

> 24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

> 23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

> 23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

> 21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

> 20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

> 19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

> 17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

> 16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

> 15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

> 14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

>

> 8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24

hours

> before the moment specified in the above table. The difference in

> timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

> calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk

Factor

> ('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

>

> 8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due date'

> for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

> menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981.

The

> Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above table

is

> a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex can

be

> predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

> which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of desired

> sex.

>

>

>

>

> , siva sankar rao adigopula

> <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> >

> > We will try to discuss on any one subject

> > that is benificial to all members of the group

> >

> > Now the topic is

> >

> > What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

> >

> >

> > Please send your own experience to the group.

> > All astrologers are requested to participation

> >

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Sankar Rao

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

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Dear Nagi ji,

 

No method is full proof.

 

If someone is interested, just to try them.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " bkhardeep " <bkhardeep wrote:

>

>

> dear tinwin,

>

> you are simply a wonderful person and great contributer in

astrology.

>

> you should give your views also.

>

> any how it is wonderful compilation.

> regards

> hs nagi

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > CHILD SEX

> >

> > 1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

> > explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961,

19:45

> > DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA

23:13:46,

> > Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born,

15-

> 09-

> > 1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to

be

> > judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on.

> Any

> > abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the

> 11th

> > (5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house

> for

> > the second child and so on.

> >

> > 2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

> >

> > (Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

> > Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book

on

> > Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

> >

> > 2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th

cusp

> > sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them

and

> > the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by

the

> > sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

> > indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female

child.

> > Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and

conj.

> > and aspecting planets.

> >

> > 2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is

in

> > the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

> > Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet.

Sun,

> > Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a

MALE

> > CHILD.

> >

> > 3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

> >

> > 3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

> > occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

> > first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

> > sublords of those three sublords.

> >

> > 3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

> > sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

> > Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

> > whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

> > Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

> > indicates a MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

> >

> > (provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

> >

> > 4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

> > signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

> > planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord

> of

> > the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

> > occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having

> male

> > sex and one female sex.

> >

> > 4.2. In Diana's chart,

> >

> > 5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

> >

> > Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

> >

> > Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

> >

> > Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

> >

> > Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

> > indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

> > child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius,

> there

> > is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE

CHILD

> >

> > 5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

> >

> > (K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

> >

> > 5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the

> Sun

> > Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

> > signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the

second

> > half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora

and

> > the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star

of

> > the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be

judged.

> > If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the

> star

> > lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

> >

> > 5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of

> the

> > 5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

> > Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora,

i.e

> > FEMALE CHILD.

> >

> > 6. CKV METHOD

> >

> > (by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan

Krishnamoorthy)

> >

> > http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

> >

> > 6.1. The procedure is:

> >

> > 1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

> > Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is

> either

> > Male or Female.

> >

> > 2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as

the

> > 5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K.

(Note:

> > Sublord is excluded.)

> >

> > 3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as

the

> > signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

> >

> > 4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear

in

> > the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th

> CSL).

> > Let this count be L.

> >

> > 5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

> >

> > 6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the

> native.

> > If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of

the

> > native.

> >

> > 6.2. In Diana's chart,

> >

> > 1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

> >

> > 2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

> >

> > 3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

> >

> > 4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

> >

> > 5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

> >

> > 6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G,

which

> is

> > FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

> >

> > (provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

> >

> > 7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the

> first

> > born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7

> lagna,

> > while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is

determined

> > from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the

lord

> of

> > the 9 th house).

> >

> > 1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

> > posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is

> exalted,

> > or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

> >

> > 2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

> > which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or

Gemini

> or

> > Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or

> female

> > planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

> >

> >

> > 7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-

7

> > lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first

child

> is

> > a MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 8. DR. JONAS METHOD

> >

> > 8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

> >

> > 1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the

recurrence

> > of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

> > woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation,

> the

> > probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

> >

> > 2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception

> in

> > odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

> >

> > 3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect

the

> > viability of the embryo. (Risk)

> >

> > 8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table

> form

> > below at the following link:

> >

> > http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

> >

> > Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

> >

> > Date Time Gender Risk

> > 24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

> > 22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

> > 24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

> > 23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

> > 23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

> > 21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

> > 20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

> > 19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

> > 17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

> > 16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

> > 15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

> > 14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

> >

> > 8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24

> hours

> > before the moment specified in the above table. The difference

in

> > timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

> > calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk

> Factor

> > ('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

> >

> > 8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due

date'

> > for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

> > menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981.

> The

> > Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above

table

> is

> > a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex

can

> be

> > predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

> > which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of

desired

> > sex.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , siva sankar rao adigopula

> > <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > >

> > > We will try to discuss on any one subject

> > > that is benificial to all members of the group

> > >

> > > Now the topic is

> > >

> > > What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

> > >

> > >

> > > Please send your own experience to the group.

> > > All astrologers are requested to participation

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > Sankar Rao

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> > >

> >

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Dear All,

 

Luckily writing of those methods is not banned.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Predicting sex of an unborn child is legally banned in India; it

is a

> punishable crime!

> sujatkaram. , " tw853 " <tw853@>

> wrote:

> >

> > CHILD SEX

> >

> > 1. Some methods of child sex prediction are given below and

> > explained by the example chart of Princes Diana (01-07-1961,

19:45

> > DST [18:45 GMT], Sandringham, UK, 52N50, 00E30, New KPA

23:13:46,

> > Asc Sc 25:10:45 by KPAstro 3.0, 21-06-1982: son Williams born,

15-

> 09-

> > 1984: son Henry born). For female (mother) the 5th house is to

be

> > judged for the first child, 7th for the second child and so on.

Any

> > abortion over 3 months is to be counted. For male (father) the

11th

> > (5th from 7th/wife) house is for the first child, the 1st house

for

> > the second child and so on.

> >

> > 2. SHRI SHANMUGAM'S 5TH SUBLORD METOD

> >

> > (Astrosecrets Part I page 295-296, 304 & Part III, page 84; KP &

> > Astrology Year Book 2000, page 10; Shri K. Hariharan: Hand Book

on

> > Astrology, Part II, page 88-89)

> >

> > 2.1. It is to decide by the male or female nature of the 5th

cusp

> > sublord, its starlord, the lord of the signs occupied by them

and

> > the planets conj. and aspecting them. It is finally decided by

the

> > sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

> > indicate the male child and Moon, Venus and Rahu the female

child.

> > Mercury and Ketu are to be studied by the sign occupied and

conj.

> > and aspecting planets.

> >

> > 2.2. In Diana's chart, the 5th cusp sublord is Saturn which is

in

> > the star of Sun and sub of Saturn. Saturn, Male planet, is in

> > Capricorn, Female sign, and conj. with Jupiter, Male planet.

Sun,

> > Male planet, is in Gemini, Male sign. So the first child is a

MALE

> > CHILD.

> >

> > 3. SRI RAICHUR'S METHOD

> >

> > 3.1. It is determined by the nature of the lords of the signs

> > occupied by the sublods of the cusps of houses 5, 11, 2 for the

> > first child (7, 2, 11 for the second child and so on) and the

> > sublords of those three sublords.

> >

> > 3.2. Diana's 5th & 11th sublord Saturn is in Capricorn and the

> > sublord of Saturn is also Saturn. The signlord of Capricorn is

> > Saturn, Male planet. The 2nd cusp sublord Mercury is in Gemini,

> > whose lord is Mercury. But Mercury's sublord Jupiter is in

> > Capricorn, whose signlord is Saturn, Male planet. And so it

> > indicates a MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 4. SHRI BALAKRISHNA SINGH'S METHOD

> >

> > (provided by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi)

> >

> > 4.1. It is decided by the nature of the three sublords of the

> > signlord, starlord and sublord of the 5th cusp sublord. If the

> > planets are showing both the sexes, then see what is the sublord

of

> > the 5th cusp and if it is in the star of Mercury or a planet

> > occupied in a dual sign then predict the twin birth, one having

> male

> > sex and one female sex.

> >

> > 4.2. In Diana's chart,

> >

> > 5th cp Sgl= Mar, Stl= Ven, Sbl= Sat

> >

> > Mar's Sgl= Sun, Stl= Ket, Sbl= Jup

> >

> > Ven's Sgl= Ven, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Rah

> >

> > Sat's Sgl= Sat, Stl= Sun, Sbl= Sat

> >

> > Out of the three sublords, the two sublords Jupiter and Saturn

> > indicate Male child and the third sublord Rah indicates Female

> > child. Since the starlord of 5th subolrd Ketu is in Aquarius,

there

> > is no chance of twin birth. The overall indication is a MALE

CHILD

> >

> > 5. SHRI BALASEKAR'S HORA METHOD

> >

> > (K P & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 39-41)

> >

> > 5.1. If the 5th cusp sublord or its star lord is posited in the

Sun

> > Hora, the child is Male, and in the Moon Hora, Female. (In odd

> > signs, the first half, 15 deg., is called the Sun Hora, the

second

> > half the Moon Hora; in even signs the first half is Moon Hora

and

> > the second half is Sun Hora. If there is no planet in the star

of

> > the 5th cusp sublord, the 5th cusp sublord itself is to be

judged.

> > If there is any planet in the star of the 5th cusp sublord, the

> star

> > lord of the 5th cusp sublord is to be judged.)

> >

> > 5.2. For Diana's first child, there is no planet in the star of

the

> > 5th cusp sublord Saturn. So it is to judge Saturn, which is in

> > Capricorn, even sign, in the first half, 4d:35m, in Moon Hora,

i.e

> > FEMALE CHILD.

> >

> > 6. CKV METHOD

> >

> > (by Shri C. Kadirvelu; provided by Dr. Rangarrajan

Krishnamoorthy)

> >

> > http://www.system.com/docs/ckv-rule.pdf

> >

> > 6.1. The procedure is:

> >

> > 1) Take 5th cusp sub lord (CSL). Note whether it is deposited in

> > Male or Female sign. Denote this gender by `G', that is, G is

> either

> > Male or Female.

> >

> > 2) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as

the

> > 5th signlord, star lord or subsublord. Let this count be K.

(Note:

> > Sublord is excluded.)

> >

> > 3) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn appears as

the

> > signlord or starlord of the 5th CSL. Let this count be L.

> >

> > 4) Count the number of times Rahu or Ketu or Saturn that appear

in

> > the sign where 5th CSL is deposited (i.e., conjoined with 5th

CSL).

> > Let this count be L.

> >

> > 5) Add K, L and M. Let the result be N.

> >

> > 6) If N is even number, then G is the guessed gender of the

native.

> > If N is an odd number, the opposite of G is guessed gender of

the

> > native.

> >

> > 6.2. In Diana's chart,

> >

> > 1) The 5th CSL Saturn is in Capricorn, Female sign. F = FEMALE

> >

> > 2) None is applicable. Hence K= 0

> >

> > 3) 5th Sgl is Saturn. Hence L= 1.

> >

> > 4) 5th CSL Saturn is not conjoined with Ra/Ke/Sa. Hence M= 0

> >

> > 5) N= 0+1+0 = 1

> >

> > 6) Since N is odd, the guessed gender is the opposite of G,

which

> is

> > FEMALE, i.e. MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 7. SAPTAMSHA (D-7) METHOD

> >

> > (provided by Ms. Sandy Crowther)

> >

> > 7.1. Viewing the Saptamsha for the male (husband's) chart, the

> first

> > born is determined by the lord of the 5th house from the D-7

lagna,

> > while for the female (wife's) chart, the first child is

determined

> > from a reverse count to the 5th from the D-7 lagna - (or the

lord

> of

> > the 9 th house).

> >

> > 1) A son is predicted if the lord of the child (5th house) is

> > posited in an odd sign or Cancer or Pisces; or the lord is

exalted,

> > or conjunct exalted or male planets (Su/Ju/Ma/Ra).

> >

> > 2) A daughter is predicted if the lord of the child (9th lord –

> > which is 5th lord in reverse) is placed in an even sign or

Gemini

> or

> > Aquarius; or the lord is debilitated, conjunct debilitated or

> female

> > planets (Mo/Ve/Me/Ke/Sa - There are no eunuch considerations).

> >

> >

> > 7.2. In Diana's D-7, 9th lord, a reverse count to the 5th from D-

7

> > lagna, is Mercury, which is in Leo, Male sign. So the first

child

> is

> > a MALE CHILD.

> >

> > 8. DR. JONAS METHOD

> >

> > 8.1. Dr. Jonas's three discoveries:

> >

> > 1) The time of a woman's fertility is the moment of the

recurrence

> > of the angle between the Moon and the Sun that occurred at the

> > woman's own birth. If Lunar Conception coincides with ovulation,

> the

> > probability of conception is very high. (Timing)

> >

> > 2) The tropical position of the Moon at the moment of conception

in

> > odd signs gives boys while in even signs gives girls. (Gender)

> >

> > 3) Certain configurations at the time of conception can affect

the

> > viability of the embryo. (Risk)

> >

> > 8.2. The above information can be easily obtained in the table

form

> > below at the following link:

> >

> > http://www.lunarium.co.uk/jonas.php

> >

> > Lunar Conception Time for Diana for 1981

> >

> > Date Time Gender Risk

> > 24.01.1981 04:01 am G 1

> > 22.02.1981 11:58 pm B 0

> > 24.03.1981 07:16 pm G 6

> > 23.04.1981 12:36 am B 1

> > 23.05.1981 03:10 am G 3

> > 21.06.1981 02:43 pm B 1

> > 20.07.1981 11:30 pm G 2

> > 19.08.1981 06:24 am B 2

> > 17.09.1981 12:42 am G 2

> > 16.10.1981 07:46 pm B 3

> > 15.11.1981 04:47 am G 1

> > 14.12.1981 04:24 pm B 1

> >

> > 8.3. The period of maximal probability of conception begins 24

> hours

> > before the moment specified in the above table. The difference

in

> > timing is within only 5-10min with compared to any accurate

> > calculation method. It would be reasonable to choose the Risk

> Factor

> > ('Risk' column in the above table) as low as possible.

> >

> > 8.4. By applying the backward calculation of `childbirth due

date'

> > for Diana's first son Williams (b. 21-06-1982), the first day of

> > menstruation before his pregnancy is supposed to be 17-09-1981.

The

> > Lunar Conception date 16-10-1981, 7:46pm (B) from the above

table

> is

> > a reasonable one for his pregnancy. In this way the child sex

can

> be

> > predicted after pregnancy of a child by using Dr. Jonas Method,

> > which gives the timing of conception to get a child and of

desired

> > sex.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , siva sankar rao adigopula

> > <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > >

> > > We will try to discuss on any one subject

> > > that is benificial to all members of the group

> > >

> > > Now the topic is

> > >

> > > What is the best method for " GENDER " selection?

> > >

> > >

> > > Please send your own experience to the group.

> > > All astrologers are requested to participation

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > Sankar Rao

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Mr LYRao,Thankyou for your responsePlease send your experience information on this matter to the groupRegardsSankarRaoYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Siva Sankar Rao, In my recent experience the best method of Gender Slecion has been inunciated by Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar, in his 4-step

theory/method...Even Mr.A.R.Raichur and many K.P. Astrologers are very satisfied with the results that it gives...and has also written about it... The accuracy rate approaches 98%... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro > wrote: Dear friends,We will try to discuss on any one subject that is benificial to all members of the groupNow the topic is What is the best method for "GENDER" selection?Please send your own experience to the group.All astrologers are requested to participation Warm regards,Sankar Rao Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox.

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