Twins Birth

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Hi friends,

I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-

jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time

of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder

child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem

to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever

and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of

astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.

Thank you

--venkit

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Sir Birth time rectification is required for this. Regards Viswanath venkit_subbiah <venkit_subbiah wrote: Hi friends,I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem to be same, even in the sub level.

The elder child has always fever and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.Thank you--venkit

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Dear Venkit, In such close TOBs one should resort to using a Software which will provide the sub-sub divisions ,and enable one to get a very clear differentiation...! With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !venkit_subbiah <venkit_subbiah wrote: Hi friends,I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.Thank you--venkit

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:29 AM

Re: Twins Birth

 

 

 

Sir

 

Birth time rectification is required for this.

 

Regards

Viswanath

venkit_subbiah <venkit_subbiah (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

Hi friends,I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.Thank you--venkit

 

 

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Dear Venkit,

 

There are some subtle differences in the two charts.

 

First difference is that the sub-sub level of the ascendant for the elder

girl is Rahu. Sub-sub level for the younger boy is Saturn.

 

Both are co-lords to 8H Aquarius. Rahu however in KP chart is in 8H, whereas

Saturn in KP chart is in 12H.

 

It is intriguing that you mentioned the elder child always has fevers (and

other types of problems). In KP chart of the elder girl, Mars is in 10H

giving aspect onto 1H, and as well receiving no aspect from Jupiter. And

this Mars is in Aries.

 

In boys chart, Mars is in the 9H giving no aspect onto 1H and as well

receiving 7H aspect from Jupiter.

 

There are no planets in Mars stars in these charts. Mars is in Sun's star in

Aries, Krittika. Aries, Mars, and Sun are known to give fevers. The part of

Krittika that is in Aries/Mesha is said to have plenty of heat along with

the brilliance of Krittika, versus the Taurus/Vrishabha part is more without

the heat. A flame is a widely used symbol for Krittika. Agni, the fire god

is the secondary deity of Krittika.

 

In the girls KP chart this Mars also gives 8H aspect onto a RVenus in

Sagittarius (again heat), whereas in boys KP chart RVenus does not receive

this aspect.

 

In both charts lagna lord, Moon, is conjoined with this Sun, but in this

elder child's chart, the affects of Krittika are also directed onto the lH

as well as the affects from Aries. Krittika is a female nakshatra and is

related to nurturing of all types, it is " related to the 'seven Krittikas'

or seven wives of the seven main sages looking after the affairs of our

galaxy. "

 

It would seem that the differences in knowing which twin would be a girl

would also be due to the affects of having this nakshatra giving results

here. Both Saturn and Rahu are in male nakshatras so there is no difference

given the above mentioned sub sub levels of the ascendants (and both Saturn

and Rahu are in female rasis). The other difference too then this Krittika

via Mars giving aspect onto RVenus who is also in a female nakshatra,

Poorvashadha. Both Mars and RVenus themselves are in male rasis, so this is

very revealing looking deeper into the nakshatras.

 

My books lists that Krittika relates to the care and nurturing of anything

in its young, delicate state, so this may explain these health issues

needing care during the infant or young days of this twin girl.

 

Given these differences it appears that the elder child also would show more

activity, movement and perhaps restlessness, etc.. Do you know if this is

the case?

 

Even with all said above, Mars is Yoga Karaka in this chart owning both 5th

and 10th houses, as well in chart occupying 10th and giving aspect to 5H.

Yoga Karaka planets are said to bring great benefit to a chart so this is

not 'negative,' but does perhaps point to these differences you've mentioned

with respect to these twins current state of general health.

 

In these charts, Mars falls in the first pada of Krittika. Planets here give

a lot of will power, strength and stamina. Mars is one of four planets

listed as being especially strong here. This pada falls in Sagittarius

Navamsa lorded by Jupiter and this gives a generous and altruistic

influence. Especially considering the Yoga Karaka status of Mars and this

brahminical caste of Krittika, this leans Mars warrior-like tendancies

towards benefic causes.

 

I love any opportunities for looking at twins charts. Especially with

information of specific differences as you've shared. Thanks for sharing

this and their birth info.

 

All blessings and best wishes to these babies.

 

Kind regards,

Patrice

 

 

 

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Hi friends,

I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-

jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time

of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder

child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem

to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever

and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of

astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.

Thank you

--venkit

 

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Dear Forum Members,

 

As said by sri Lajmi Sir a good s/w is to be selected for deciding

this type twin cases where the tob is marginal (with less) differs

and the sublord is key factor as per kp system to point out the

difference between the twins.

 

Reg. email of Sri MK Viswanath, it is pertinant point that this type

of typical twins horoscopes should be determined after going thr BTR

methods only.

 

Now I have gone thr tobs given by Mr. Venkit's in twin horoscopes,

in this BTR is made and the first child was girl at 7.05pm wherein

the 1st csl is Rahu is in 8th house pisces female/even sign and in

the star of Pushya Saturn who is in cancer another evensign hence

female child, As per 4 step theory, Rahu is primary significator of

8/rahu (Jup 3,6,9) 12,7 by Saturn. Rahu sublord is Moon who is in

his own star, 6p/Moon hence Rahu saturn Moon related to health

problems for the first female child as given by Sri Venkit.

 

Second twin was boy at 7.09pm wherein 1st csl is Jupiter (see the

change first csl from Rahu to Jupiter) Jupiter is in Libra odd sign

in his own star hence a Male Child, Jupiter as sublord of first

house 4 step theory (Sunilji) in his own star occupant of 3rd bhava

and lord of 6th n 9th not empty. hence only 3 is primary

significator. sublord Saturn in his own star signifies 12th and 7th

hence this child is maintaining good health.

A file of the twins in pdf format was uploaded in the files section

by name twins venkit.pdf.

 

I request learned members to throw light on this issue. their

further comments with regrard to this example.

 

Regards

OVN Murthy, Hyderabad. www.saibhavishyavani.com

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Venkit,

> In such close TOBs one should resort to using a

Software which will provide the sub-sub divisions ,and enable one to

get a very clear differentiation...!

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> venkit_subbiah <venkit_subbiah wrote:

> Hi friends,

> I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-

> jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The

time

> of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM).

Elder

> child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope

seem

> to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always

fever

> and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP

system of

> astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.

> Thank you

> --venkit

 

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Dear Patrice,

Your detail analysis is wonderful and highly appreciate as a students of astrlogy.

With regards,

mr Ghosh.

Patrice Curry <patricecurry Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:53:33 PM RE: Twins Birth

 

Dear Venkit,There are some subtle differences in the two charts.First difference is that the sub-sub level of the ascendant for the eldergirl is Rahu. Sub-sub level for the younger boy is Saturn.Both are co-lords to 8H Aquarius. Rahu however in KP chart is in 8H, whereasSaturn in KP chart is in 12H.It is intriguing that you mentioned the elder child always has fevers (andother types of problems). In KP chart of the elder girl, Mars is in 10Hgiving aspect onto 1H, and as well receiving no aspect from Jupiter. Andthis Mars is in Aries.In boys chart, Mars is in the 9H giving no aspect onto 1H and as wellreceiving 7H aspect from Jupiter. There are no planets in Mars stars in these charts. Mars is in Sun's star inAries, Krittika. Aries, Mars, and Sun are known to give fevers. The part ofKrittika that is in Aries/Mesha is said to have plenty of heat along withthe brilliance

of Krittika, versus the Taurus/Vrishabha part is more withoutthe heat. A flame is a widely used symbol for Krittika. Agni, the fire godis the secondary deity of Krittika.In the girls KP chart this Mars also gives 8H aspect onto a RVenus inSagittarius (again heat), whereas in boys KP chart RVenus does not receivethis aspect.In both charts lagna lord, Moon, is conjoined with this Sun, but in thiselder child's chart, the affects of Krittika are also directed onto the lHas well as the affects from Aries. Krittika is a female nakshatra and isrelated to nurturing of all types, it is "related to the 'seven Krittikas'or seven wives of the seven main sages looking after the affairs of ourgalaxy." It would seem that the differences in knowing which twin would be a girlwould also be due to the affects of having this nakshatra giving resultshere. Both Saturn and Rahu are in male nakshatras so there

is no differencegiven the above mentioned sub sub levels of the ascendants (and both Saturnand Rahu are in female rasis). The other difference too then this Krittikavia Mars giving aspect onto RVenus who is also in a female nakshatra,Poorvashadha. Both Mars and RVenus themselves are in male rasis, so this isvery revealing looking deeper into the nakshatras.My books lists that Krittika relates to the care and nurturing of anythingin its young, delicate state, so this may explain these health issuesneeding care during the infant or young days of this twin girl.Given these differences it appears that the elder child also would show moreactivity, movement and perhaps restlessness, etc.. Do you know if this isthe case?Even with all said above, Mars is Yoga Karaka in this chart owning both 5thand 10th houses, as well in chart occupying 10th and giving aspect to 5H.Yoga Karaka planets are said

to bring great benefit to a chart so this isnot 'negative,' but does perhaps point to these differences you've mentionedwith respect to these twins current state of general health. In these charts, Mars falls in the first pada of Krittika. Planets here givea lot of will power, strength and stamina. Mars is one of four planetslisted as being especially strong here. This pada falls in SagittariusNavamsa lorded by Jupiter and this gives a generous and altruisticinfluence. Especially considering the Yoga Karaka status of Mars and thisbrahminical caste of Krittika, this leans Mars warrior-like tendanciestowards benefic causes. I love any opportunities for looking at twins charts. Especially withinformation of specific differences as you've shared. Thanks for sharingthis and their birth info.All blessings and best wishes to these babies.Kind regards,Patrice____________

_________ ___Hi friends,I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala, India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.Thank you--venkit--- End forwarded message ---

 

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TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaOh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - Astrologer_vishy Nair Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:29 AM Re: Twins Birth Sir Birth time rectification is required for this. Regards Viswanath venkit_subbiah <venkit_subbiah (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hi friends,I got horoscopes of twin babies, Data is like this DOB:29-jan-2006, 7:00PM, Trivandrum,kerala,India (76 E 55; 8 N 29), The time of birth of younger one has only 3 min difference (ie. 7:03PM). Elder child is a girl and the second one is a male. But the horoscope seem to be same, even in the sub level. The elder child has always fever and other type of problem. How could I justify this using KP system of astrology in these horoscope. Please help me.Thank you--venkit Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

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