Speculations-Love affairs for Leo nativity

December 20, 2007

Dear Friends,

For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would

in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.

It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed.

a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever

its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that

the native would always loose in Share market speculations

and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to

check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha

results.

b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will

never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?

Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of

speculations and risk taking ?

c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed

in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify

5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these

numbers as per KP ?

Please try to give the exact results you forsee and

not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not

prevent you from making the attempt from answering.

Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the

answer to God.

regards,

Bhaskar.

December 21, 2007

Respected bhaskar jee

I dont think myself as authority to say

anything yet I am humbaly requesting to consider followings facts-

1- you are concentrating only on the ASCE(AS LEO) and planet JUPITAR

which comes automatically lord of 5th and 8th for leo.DO you not

think according to theory of probality 1/12 world population will

come under this.

2- AS you aware about with fact that any planet signifies not only

one house matter but a couple of houses matter.Similary almost every

house is signified by couple of significator.As example for one

native jupitar may signify 4th and 7th also (12th to 5 & 8) along with

5th and 8th while for others not so.Do you no not see the variation

of results by jupitar in both case??

3- I could not understand why you are strongly restricting the use

of sub .In K.P. sub strongly determines the result given by any

planet in terms of wether it will be favourable or not.If you have

searched any thing or invented any new technique in which without

using sub, prediction can be done perfectly it is equally good.

4- As my individual experiance is to predict very specific to any

native on any matter(may be the question related to love affair or

speculation mostly related by 5th house) one should consider all

houses and all planets along with planatary dasa and trasit

position.prediction based on very general approach mostly fails.

every one has own individuality prediction should not be given on

general basis (as by only consider lagna or one planet.)

Thanks for having patience to read all though I did

not give your desired answer but I would like to see more discussion

on this issue.

WITH REGARDS

AMIT

-- In , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would

> in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.

> It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed.

>

> a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever

> its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that

> the native would always loose in Share market speculations

> and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to

> check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha

> results.

>

> b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will

> never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?

> Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of

> speculations and risk taking ?

>

> c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed

> in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify

> 5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these

> numbers as per KP ?

>

> Please try to give the exact results you forsee and

> not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not

> prevent you from making the attempt from answering.

>

> Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the

> answer to God.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

December 21, 2007

Dear Bhaskar, The VIIIth cusp also signifies : Legacy,inheritance,dividends,lottery prizes etc., or any kind of un-earned income... For success in love affairs,the s/l of the Vth must signify II,VII XI...the VIIIth could mean anxiety,needless worry or even disappointment in love-affairs...(naturally, here comes the role of the sub-sub to decide whether the result is beneficial or harmful ). In

K.P.,there is no room debilation or exaltation...this is precisely the result of "mixing up" the principles of K.P., and Traditional Astrology...pl desist from confusing yourself and others...either follow the K.P.System, or only Traditional System...don't mix them up... Remember Bhaskar your queries are being made on the K.P. System site...! With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Friends,For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,wouldin most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed. a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean thatthe native would always loose in Share market speculationsand in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha results. b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will never be succesful in Love affairs and in

speculations ?Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of speculations and risk taking ?c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with thesenumbers as per KP ?Please try to give the exact results you forsee and not roundabout evasive answers. But this should notprevent you from making the attempt from answering.Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of theanswer to God.regards,Bhaskar.

Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

December 22, 2007

Dear Dubey ji,

You are mistaken. I do not restrict the use of Sub.If one does so then he is no KP astrologer andhas no place in this Forum.

You may read the following Message Numbers12315 and related thread.15698 and related thread

The latter message would also confirm you thatI do not restrict the use of Sub andeven further, that is Sub Sub.

But i do not encourage wanton use of SubSub theory and application by half baked astrologers who cannot even predict till Star level or Sub level, and it looks certainly funny when they talk of going to Sub Sub level accuracy.

Message Number 15698 above, would help you in gauging the importance of the Sub Sub level, at times.Apart from above, the Sub Sub level is also required atrectification of Birth time specially when the area of the Sub is extended, as in case of Venus, Rahu or Saturn.

I am aware of the importance of -

Ascendant and Star Lord and sub lord.Cusps and their SubLords.Planets and their Star + Sub Lords.SubLords and their Stars and SubLords.Dasha,Antar and Pratyantar Star and Sub Lords.Interconnection of these for gain of a common objective.

I was not talking of prediction by one Planetor in general, or by Lagna, when I wrote mymail. Even traditional astrologers wouldnot do that.The points you have mentioned need not be said, because they are understood evenfor a primary grade student and pre-requisitesfor predictions. We are talking beyond those levels.

My Query was put in KP Format.

1) Jupiter signifies 5 and 8 apart from the house it is placed in.For all Leo nativities this combination would be there. Forgetabout the Dasha running or any other planet placed in 5th or representing 8th etcetra. I am talking only of Planet Jupiter now.What dioes Jupiter represent if we keep the Sub lord aside ?

2) Jupiter if placed in 5th Cusp gives figuresof 5,5 and 8. What does this mean ?Loss in speculations ?Heart Surgery ?Break in Love affairs ?Or the oppposite ?Or what ?

Unfortunately all have given evasive answers but not the right ones.

I thank you for having given the truth as You see it, and not written as per my desire. You have excersised your mind and written honestly, which I appreciate. Unfortunately I find that this Forum is now mostly being used to answer Help Queries which may be a good act, but discussions have reduced. Where they fail at arguing or being able to reply sensibly they would advise one to go and read Books on Kp. They are still living and their life is revolving around the KP readers and they have not progressed beyond the same. Such rigidity and closed minds cannot serve the Higher Octaves of Astrology nor further KP.

regards,Bhaskar.

, "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar wrote:>> Respected bhaskar jee> I dont think myself as authority to say > anything yet I am humbaly requesting to consider followings facts-> 1- you are concentrating only on the ASCE(AS LEO) and planet JUPITAR> which comes automatically lord of 5th and 8th for leo.DO you not > think according to theory of probality 1/12 world population will > come under this.> 2- AS you aware about with fact that any planet signifies not only > one house matter but a couple of houses matter.Similary almost every > house is signified by couple of significator.As example for one > native jupitar may signify 4th and 7th also (12th to 5 & 8) along with > 5th and 8th while for others not so.Do you no not see the variation > of results by jupitar in both case??> 3- I could not understand why you are strongly restricting the use > of sub .In K.P. sub strongly determines the result given by any > planet in terms of wether it will be favourable or not.If you have > searched any thing or invented any new technique in which without > using sub, prediction can be done perfectly it is equally good.> 4- As my individual experiance is to predict very specific to any > native on any matter(may be the question related to love affair or > speculation mostly related by 5th house) one should consider all > houses and all planets along with planatary dasa and trasit > position.prediction based on very general approach mostly fails.> every one has own individuality prediction should not be given on > general basis (as by only consider lagna or one planet.)> > Thanks for having patience to read all though I did > not give your desired answer but I would like to see more discussion > on this issue.> WITH REGARDS> AMIT> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > > > For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would> > in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.> > It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed. > > > > a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever > > its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that> > the native would always loose in Share market speculations> > and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to > > check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha > > results. > > > > b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will > > never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?> > Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of > > speculations and risk taking ?> > > > c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed > > in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify> > 5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these> > numbers as per KP ?> > > > Please try to give the exact results you forsee and > > not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not> > prevent you from making the attempt from answering.> > > > Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the> > answer to God.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >>

December 23, 2007

Respected Rao Sahab, I am not mixing any system or confusing myself

or the others. There is no need to mix.KP is the cream or essence of the Milk which isTraditional astrology.This is a KP Forum I know that, and that is why Iwish to remove certain contingencies from the mindsof KP astrologers which surfaces time and again ,

so that KP astrologers do not get a bad name and

hatred from the traditional counterparts

and we are able to live amicable in a warm

atmosphere. Debilitation or Exaltation or retrogressionmay not have any place in KP, but for the finaljudgement they do matter. Or do they not ?

As far as I see , to polish the

predictions they do come in handy. If the Mahadasha Lord (Let it be Any Planet)is placed in a star, say for instance Jupiter, which signifies 11,11 and 2. for a Aquarius ascendant. This means Jupiter placed in 11th Cusp and owner of 2nd Cusp and 11th Cusp. Now let me know, dont you think results of the Jupiterwill differ or not in both below cases, consideringthat Jupiter represents 11,11 and 2 in both cases ?1) Jupiter placed in Sign Sagittarius, but in 11th Cusp.2) Jupiter placed in Sign Capricorn, but in 11th Cusp.

( All KP astrologers should note the difference above that numbers do play a part, but also the signs where these numbers form jointly disclose the weight of the prediction and results for the native) Or do you think that KP astrologers should forgetthe sign part and exaltation/Debilitation/Own sign part and just concentrate on figures?It would be highly indiscreet not to seethe weight of the Jupiterplaced in the 11th Cusp- Weight means in which sign itis placed. Or is it written anywhere in the readers thatthe signs have no bearing on the results , but just the houses have bearings in delineation ofresults ? Next

Retrogression in Prashna Chart does not have bearingsfor timing of fructification of results ? Or does notthe retrograde planet, as significator for trigerring theevent, waits for the planet to become Direct totrigger the event ? I will be writing a seperate mail on the Traditionaland KP mix up . Replies to my 3 queries in previous mail have still no come forth , which I will overlook.

I would still cling to my opinion wholeheartedly

that any Cusp Sublord if placed in any starLord

who is placed Exalted , or in own house

would have better results to offer, rather than

this Sublord placed in a Starlord who is placed

debilitated though representing a benefic House.

(This must be re-read by the reader, with a Open

mind before passing any detriment comment)

regards,Bhaskar.

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,> The VIIIth cusp also signifies :> Legacy,inheritance,dividends,lottery prizes etc., or any kind of un-earned income...> For success in love affairs,the s/l of the Vth must signify II,VII XI...the VIIIth could mean anxiety,needless worry or even disappointment in love-affairs...(naturally, here comes the role of the sub-sub to decide whether the result is beneficial or harmful ).> In K.P.,there is no room debilation or exaltation...this is precisely the result of "mixing up" the principles of K.P., and Traditional Astrology...pl desist from confusing yourself and others...either follow the K.P.System, or only Traditional System...don't mix them up...> Remember Bhaskar your queries are being made on the K.P. System site...!> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Dear Friends,> > For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would> in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.> It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed. > > a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever > its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that> the native would always loose in Share market speculations> and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to > check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha > results. > > b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will > never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?> Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of > speculations and risk taking ?> > c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed > in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify> 5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these> numbers as per KP ?> > Please try to give the exact results you forsee and > not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not> prevent you from making the attempt from answering.> > Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the> answer to God.> > regards,> Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. >

December 23, 2007

Namaste Mr. Bhaskar.

Firstly I beg an apology for writing this. Please take it on positive stride and don't feel offended. Earnestly I request that let us treat this forum as a Temple. We all pray and prostrate in temple though only Statues of God/Goddess are present there. It is evident that our ignorant and ego filled mind prevent us from realising real God.

I have been reading your mails with interest and perhaps case has been so with other members also for last sometime. If one choose not to answer the queries not necessarily they are unaware but because of other reasons.

Doubts were yours and you wanted clarifications. But phrasing of your questions have been such that real knowledge person would always opted not to respond such arrogant enquiries.

Puranas tells us that Ravaneshwar and Dhuryodhana were also scholars of high standards yet the whole world cursed them.

"One fish can trouble the water of the pond but it takes efforts of all to set it right again"

"Beggars cannot be choosers"

Thanks and regards,

Mohan Hegde.

-

Bhaskar

Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:35 PM

Re: Speculations-Love affairs for Leo nativity

Dear Dubey ji,

You are mistaken. I do not restrict the use of Sub.If one does so then he is no KP astrologer andhas no place in this Forum.

You may read the following Message Numbers12315 and related thread.15698 and related thread

The latter message would also confirm you thatI do not restrict the use of Sub andeven further, that is Sub Sub.

But i do not encourage wanton use of SubSub theory and application by half baked astrologers who cannot even predict till Star level or Sub level, and it looks certainly funny when they talk of going to Sub Sub level accuracy.

Message Number 15698 above, would help you in gauging the importance of the Sub Sub level, at times.Apart from above, the Sub Sub level is also required atrectification of Birth time specially when the area of the Sub is extended, as in case of Venus, Rahu or Saturn.

I am aware of the importance of -

Ascendant and Star Lord and sub lord.Cusps and their SubLords.Planets and their Star + Sub Lords.SubLords and their Stars and SubLords.Dasha,Antar and Pratyantar Star and Sub Lords.Interconnection of these for gain of a common objective.

I was not talking of prediction by one Planetor in general, or by Lagna, when I wrote mymail. Even traditional astrologers wouldnot do that.The points you have mentioned need not be said, because they are understood evenfor a primary grade student and pre-requisitesfor predictions. We are talking beyond those levels.

My Query was put in KP Format.

1) Jupiter signifies 5 and 8 apart from the house it is placed in.For all Leo nativities this combination would be there. Forgetabout the Dasha running or any other planet placed in 5th or representing 8th etcetra. I am talking only of Planet Jupiter now.What dioes Jupiter represent if we keep the Sub lord aside ?

2) Jupiter if placed in 5th Cusp gives figuresof 5,5 and 8. What does this mean ?Loss in speculations ?Heart Surgery ?Break in Love affairs ?Or the oppposite ?Or what ?

Unfortunately all have given evasive answers but not the right ones.

I thank you for having given the truth as You see it, and not written as per my desire. You have excersised your mind and written honestly, which I appreciate. Unfortunately I find that this Forum is now mostly being used to answer Help Queries which may be a good act, but discussions have reduced. Where they fail at arguing or being able to reply sensibly they would advise one to go and read Books on Kp. They are still living and their life is revolving around the KP readers and they have not progressed beyond the same. Such rigidity and closed minds cannot serve the Higher Octaves of Astrology nor further KP.

regards,Bhaskar.

, "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar wrote:>> Respected bhaskar jee> I dont think myself as authority to say > anything yet I am humbaly requesting to consider followings facts-> 1- you are concentrating only on the ASCE(AS LEO) and planet JUPITAR> which comes automatically lord of 5th and 8th for leo.DO you not > think according to theory of probality 1/12 world population will > come under this.> 2- AS you aware about with fact that any planet signifies not only > one house matter but a couple of houses matter.Similary almost every > house is signified by couple of significator.As example for one > native jupitar may signify 4th and 7th also (12th to 5 & 8) along with > 5th and 8th while for others not so.Do you no not see the variation > of results by jupitar in both case??> 3- I could not understand why you are strongly restricting the use> of sub .In K.P. sub strongly determines the result given by any > planet in terms of wether it will be favourable or not.If you have > searched any thing or invented any new technique in which without > using sub, prediction can be done perfectly it is equally good.> 4- As my individual experiance is to predict very specific to any > native on any matter(may be the question related to love affair or > speculation mostly related by 5th house) one should consider all > houses and all planets along with planatary dasa and trasit > position.prediction based on very general approach mostly fails.> every one has own individuality prediction should not be given on > general basis (as by only consider lagna or one planet.)> > Thanks for having patience to read all though I did > not give your desired answer but I would like to see more discussion > on this issue.> WITH REGARDS> AMIT> & t; > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > > > For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would> > in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.> > It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed. > > > > a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever > > its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that> > the native would always loose in Share market speculations> > and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to > > check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha > > results. > > > > b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will > > never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?> > Though Leo represents natually the 5th sign of > > speculations and risk taking ?> > > > c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed > > in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify> > 5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these> > numbers as per KP ?> > > > Please try to give the exact results you forsee and > > not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not> > prevent you from making the attempt from answering.> > > > Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the> > answer to God.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >>

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December 23, 2007

Namaste Mohan ji,

I do not understand the relevance of your mail to

any matter.

I agree that arrogance may have crept in my mails,

which is due to the arrogance noticed in certain

Astrologers who keep the " Know all attitude " and

reject anyone else and any other matter which does

not fall in conformity with their Line of thinking in

astrology.

I do not have much doubts for which I need

clarifications. If You had gone deep, then you

would have realised the hidden points of astrology in

my mails, which we are nowadays missing in delineation

of results as KP Astrologers. I just wished to awaken

those aspects which have gone behind the curtain in last

few years, while we just play with numbers and

significators in quick assessment of Horoscopes,

which is not entirely the right approach.

I would have much appreciated if You would have

attempted to answer my queries of previous mails, instead

of likening me to " Duryodhana " or " Ravana " .

I also did not understand the sense or meaning

of your last Line

// .Beggars cannot be choosers //

Such type of comments are highly unwarranted on a

astrological Forum and denotes paucity of wiseness

or understanding or ethical codes in mode of

expressions which has not been followed by

the writer of this comment.

Where is the astrological content ?

Where is the contribution to astrology in this mail ?

Where is the logical evidence of arguments in this mail ?

Where is the tarka or kutarka followed ?

Just maligning or personal attack is not going to

serve any purpose, and no new ideas or re-awakening

of the old concepts herein missed, can be brought to the

fore, if more members like you

take up to such personal scathing attacks on members, who

are trying to make this Forum in a sensible discussion Forum on

Kp, instead of just a Board for few astrologers who are trying to

mantain their Elevated seats of Upmanship.

Your mail has certainly made me sad, and I hope the Moderator

agrees with me. I can leave the Forum if more members agree that

You are right. People would still remember John F Kennedy and not

the person who shot him dead. One cannot make a name by simply

targetting someone out of personal feelings, and I dont even know

You.

kind regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Mohan Hegde " <anmohiey

wrote:

>

> Namaste Mr. Bhaskar.

>

> Firstly I beg an apology for writing this. Please take it on

positive stride and don't feel offended. Earnestly I request that

let us treat this forum as a Temple. We all pray and prostrate in

temple though only Statues of God/Goddess are present there. It is

evident that our ignorant and ego filled mind prevent us from

realising real God.

>

> I have been reading your mails with interest and perhaps case has

been so with other members also for last sometime. If one choose not

to answer the queries not necessarily they are unaware but because

of other reasons.

>

> Doubts were yours and you wanted clarifications. But phrasing of

your questions have been such that real knowledge person would

always opted not to respond such arrogant enquiries.

>

> Puranas tells us that Ravaneshwar and Dhuryodhana were also

scholars of high standards yet the whole world cursed them.

>

> " One fish can trouble the water of the pond but it takes efforts

of all to set it right again "

>

> " Beggars cannot be choosers "

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Mohan Hegde.

> -

> Bhaskar

>

> Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:35 PM

> Re: Speculations-Love affairs for Leo

nativity

>

> Dear Dubey ji,

>

> You are mistaken. I do not restrict the use of Sub.

> If one does so then he is no KP astrologer and

> has no place in this Forum.

>

> You may read the following Message Numbers

> 12315 and related thread.

> 15698 and related thread

>

> The latter message would also confirm you that

> I do not restrict the use of Sub and

> even further, that is Sub Sub.

>

> But i do not encourage wanton use of SubSub theory and

application by half baked astrologers who cannot even predict till

Star level or Sub level, and it looks certainly funny when they

talk of going to Sub Sub level accuracy.

>

> Message Number 15698 above, would help you in gauging the

importance of the Sub Sub level, at times.

> Apart from above, the Sub Sub level is also required at

> rectification of Birth time specially when the area of the Sub

is extended, as in case of Venus, Rahu or Saturn.

>

> I am aware of the importance of -

>

> Ascendant and Star Lord and sub lord.

> Cusps and their SubLords.

> Planets and their Star + Sub Lords.

> SubLords and their Stars and SubLords.

> Dasha,Antar and Pratyantar Star and Sub Lords.

> Interconnection of these for gain of a common objective.

>

> I was not talking of prediction by one Planet

> or in general, or by Lagna, when I wrote my

> mail. Even traditional astrologers would

> not do that.The points you have mentioned need

> not be said, because they are understood even

> for a primary grade student and pre-requisites

> for predictions. We are talking beyond those levels.

>

> My Query was put in KP Format.

>

> 1) Jupiter signifies 5 and 8 apart from the house it is placed

in.

> For all Leo nativities this combination would be there. Forget

> about the Dasha running or any other planet placed in 5th or

> representing 8th etcetra. I am talking only of Planet Jupiter

now.

> What dioes Jupiter represent if we keep the Sub lord aside ?

>

> 2) Jupiter if placed in 5th Cusp gives figures

> of 5,5 and 8. What does this mean ?

> Loss in speculations ?

> Heart Surgery ?

> Break in Love affairs ?

> Or the oppposite ?

> Or what ?

>

> Unfortunately all have given evasive answers but not the right

ones.

>

> I thank you for having given the truth as You see it, and not

written as per my desire. You have excersised your mind and written

honestly, which I appreciate. Unfortunately I find that this Forum

is now mostly being used to answer Help Queries which may be a good

act, but discussions have reduced. Where they fail at arguing or

being able to reply sensibly they would advise one to go and read

Books on Kp. They are still living and their life is revolving

around the KP readers and they have not progressed beyond the same.

Such rigidity and closed minds cannot serve the Higher Octaves of

Astrology nor further KP.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected bhaskar jee

> > I dont think myself as authority to say

> > anything yet I am humbaly requesting to consider followings

facts-

> > 1- you are concentrating only on the ASCE(AS LEO) and planet

JUPITAR

> > which comes automatically lord of 5th and 8th for leo.DO you

not

> > think according to theory of probality 1/12 world population

will

> > come under this.

> > 2- AS you aware about with fact that any planet signifies not

only

> > one house matter but a couple of houses matter.Similary almost

every

> > house is signified by couple of significator.As example for

one

> > native jupitar may signify 4th and 7th also (12th to 5 & 8)

along with

> > 5th and 8th while for others not so.Do you no not see the

variation

> > of results by jupitar in both case??

> > 3- I could not understand why you are strongly restricting the

use

> > of sub .In K.P. sub strongly determines the result given by

any

> > planet in terms of wether it will be favourable or not.If you

have

> > searched any thing or invented any new technique in which

without

> > using sub, prediction can be done perfectly it is equally good.

> > 4- As my individual experiance is to predict very specific to

any

> > native on any matter(may be the question related to love

affair or

> > speculation mostly related by 5th house) one should consider

all

> > houses and all planets along with planatary dasa and trasit

> > position.prediction based on very general approach mostly

fails.

> > every one has own individuality prediction should not be given

on

> > general basis (as by only consider lagna or one planet.)

> >

> > Thanks for having patience to read all though I did

> > not give your desired answer but I would like to see more

discussion

> > on this issue.

> > WITH REGARDS

> > AMIT

> >

> & t;

> >

> > -- In , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,would

> > > in most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.

> > > It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed.

> > >

> > > a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever

> > > its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean that

> > > the native would always loose in Share market speculations

> > > and in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to

> > > check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha

> > > results.

> > >

> > > b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will

> > > never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?

> > > Though Leo represents natually the 5th sign of

> > > speculations and risk taking ?

> > >

> > > c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed

> > > in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify

> > > 5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with these

> > > numbers as per KP ?

> > >

> > > Please try to give the exact results you forsee and

> > > not roundabout evasive answers. But this should not

> > > prevent you from making the attempt from answering.

> > >

> > > Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of the

> > > answer to God.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

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December 23, 2007

II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Dear friends,

I was just going through a new publication called "Progeny and romance"Edited by K subramaniam.

when i saw this mail i am reminded " According to KP The 8 th House sub lord should be connected to fifth house without any affliction for attaining puberty and have regular mensus."

The quote is on page 103 on title Issueless due to Non attaining puberty.

I thought of adding this information o VIII house signification..

thanks & regards. OM TATSAT------------------------swami_rcs http://www.kaalvastu.com------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction!

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Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Friday, December 21, 2007 10:11 AM

Re: Speculations-Love affairs for Leo nativity

Dear Bhaskar,

The VIIIth cusp also signifies :

Legacy,inheritance,dividends,lottery prizes etc., or any kind of un-earned income...

For success in love affairs,the s/l of the Vth must signify II,VII XI...the VIIIth could mean anxiety,needless worry or even disappointment in love-affairs...(naturally, here comes the role of the sub-sub to decide whether the result is beneficial or harmful ).

In K.P.,there is no room debilation or exaltation...this is precisely the result of "mixing up" the principles of K.P., and Traditional Astrology...pl desist from confusing yourself and others...either follow the K.P.System, or only Traditional System...don't mix them up...

Remember Bhaskar your queries are being made on the K.P. System site...!

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Friends,For a Leo nativity, Planet Jupiter ,wouldin most of the cases , represent the 5th and 8th Cusp.It would also represent the Cusp in which it is placed. a) Now for any planet placed in Jupiter star, whenever its Dasha comes or antardasha comes, does it mean thatthe native would always loose in Share market speculationsand in Love affairs which turn sour ? Now dont ask us to check the 5th Cuspal sublord. I am talking about the dasha results. b ) Now does it mean that in general all the Leos will never be succesful in Love affairs and in speculations ?Though Leo represents naturally the 5th sign of speculations and risk taking ?c) What do you say if Jupiter is debilitated and placed in 5th Cusp ? This means Jupiter would signify5,5 and 8 . What results do you foresee with thesenumbers as per KP ?Please try to give the exact results you forsee and not roundabout evasive answers. But this should notprevent you from making the attempt from answering.Let it be a honest attempt and leave the truth of theanswer to God.regards,Bhaskar.

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December 25, 2007

Dear Bhaskar ji,I understand your intentions are correct, but you need to tone down your aggression. In any forum, the language is important otherwise we will never able to discuss the astrology and will just keep fighting. I hope you will understand it. Also let us stop this thread and focus on discussing astrology. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Dec 23, 2007 3:25 AM, Bhaskar <

bhaskar_jyotish wrote: