Some Doubts About Remedies

[Guest guest]

Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.

I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to

kindly clear these doubts.

It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things

related to exalted planets'.

I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

Saturn-7th house (aries)

Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is debilitated

but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated and

Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate the

things related to Venus? or Saturn?

Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house of

chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during morning

or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?

My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to chart?

 

 

Kind Regards

Sunil

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of the book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

 

Thanks,

Devika.sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001 wrote:

Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to kindly clear these doubts.It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things related to exalted planets'.I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)Saturn-7th house (aries)Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is debilitated but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated and Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate the things related to Venus? or Saturn?Again it is written in

lalkitab that persons whose eighth house of chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during morning or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to chart?Kind RegardsSunil

[Guest guest]

Dear Devika Ji,

I have read only 'Horoscope Reading Made Easy' and 'Lalkitab' by

U.C.Mahajan (Pustak Mahal,Delhi).But the standard books covering

whole topics are 'Lalkitab Translated' by Goswami and Vashishth

(Sagar Publication,Delhi)or Arun Samhita (in hindi).To buy this book

you can contact directly to Sagar Publication,72 Janpath,Ved

Mansions,New Delhi-110001.

You can find some essence on this site

http://sutradhari.com/lalkitab.htm

I am regular reader of 'Star Teller'.So I got some topics from there.

I hope this will help.

Regards

Sunil

, Devika Dhillon

<devikadhillon> wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

> I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of the

book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

>

> Thanks,

> Devika.

>

> sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001> wrote:

>

>

> Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

> I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

> astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.

> I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to

> kindly clear these doubts.

> It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things

> related to exalted planets'.

> I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

> Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

> Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

> Saturn-7th house (aries)

> Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

> Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

> As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is

debilitated

> but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated

and

> Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate

the

> things related to Venus? or Saturn?

> Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house of

> chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during

morning

> or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?

> My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

> propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to

chart?

>

>

> Kind Regards

> Sunil

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Devika Dhillon: I advise all the new members not to go to the remedies portion now. remedies is the final part of the lal kitab. Lalkitaab forbade any one to prescribe remedies before learning the Vyakaran (Grammar).As I feel, anyone who violate the above rule may invite reaction of wrong remedy as in case of medicine Nirmal ======== At 2004-12-11, 01:20:01 you wrote: ========Dear Sunil, I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of the book that you bought and also where to buy that book? Thanks,Devika.sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001 wrote:Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to kindly clear these doubts.It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things related to exalted planets'.I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)Saturn-7th house (aries)Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is debilitated but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated and Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate the things related to Venus? or Saturn?Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house of chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during morning or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to chart?Kind RegardsSunil

[Guest guest]

I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they say

that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal - since

they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a

strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-fold

law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back to

you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly vulnerable

or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree with -

one can not release negative energies without suffering the

consequences.

 

I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not for

evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally absent, I

do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple

general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar tilak)

can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to plot

the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is studied

and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the

astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing good ....

how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and caring -

not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear to

the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be

benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of the

Almighty.

 

I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we

should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the

book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner.

 

Ritu

 

 

 

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nk@g...> wrote:

> Dear Devika Dhillon:

> I advise all the new members not to go to the remedies portion now.

remedies is the final part of the lal kitab. Lalkitaab forbade any

one to prescribe remedies before learning the Vyakaran (Grammar).

> As I feel, anyone who violate the above rule may invite reaction of

wrong remedy as in case of medicine

>

> Nirmal

>

> ======== At 2004-12-11, 01:20:01 you wrote: ========

>

> Dear Sunil,

> I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of the

book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

>

> Thanks,

> Devika.

>

> sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001> wrote:

>

>

> Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

> I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

> astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.

> I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to

> kindly clear these doubts.

> It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things

> related to exalted planets'.

> I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

> Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

> Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

> Saturn-7th house (aries)

> Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

> Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

> As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is

debilitated

> but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated

and

> Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate

the

> things related to Venus? or Saturn?

> Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house of

> chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during

morning

> or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?

> My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

> propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to

chart?

>

>

> Kind Regards

> Sunil

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Ritu ji,

I dont think you understood the context in which that

discussion was started. Little knowledge is dangerous than no

knowledge at all. That was the reason Mr. Bhardwaj told newbies not

to go to remedies portion of the book and start prescribing remedies.

Though the intention of the person may be to help others but in doing

so he may cause the benefic planets to go malefic.

If you have read the Lal Kitab then you must understand that it is

not easy to figure which planet is malefic or benefic at a given

time, so just looking at one planet that you might think is malefic

and prescribe the remedy for that planet is not the right approach.

 

I am sure the experts will agree with me.

 

Ofcourse the LalKitab remedies are for good.. but ..you just can't do

all the remedies that are written in the book and say you can never

be harmed.. thats wrong.

 

I hope I am not hurting your feelings in any way. Just wanted to make

it clear that you can harm some one by prescribing remedies with

little knowledge. Better leave it to the experts.

 

With Regards

 

Gullu

 

 

, " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...>

wrote:

>

> I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they say

> that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal -

since

> they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a

> strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-fold

> law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back to

> you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly vulnerable

> or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree with -

> one can not release negative energies without suffering the

> consequences.

>

> I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not for

> evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally absent,

I

> do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple

> general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar tilak)

> can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to plot

> the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is

studied

> and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the

> astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing good ....

> how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and

caring -

> not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear to

> the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be

> benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of the

> Almighty.

>

> I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we

> should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the

> book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner.

>

> Ritu

>

>

>

> , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

> <nk@g...> wrote:

> > Dear Devika Dhillon:

> > I advise all the new members not to go to the remedies portion

now.

> remedies is the final part of the lal kitab. Lalkitaab forbade any

> one to prescribe remedies before learning the Vyakaran (Grammar).

> > As I feel, anyone who violate the above rule may invite reaction

of

> wrong remedy as in case of medicine

> >

> > Nirmal

> >

> > ======== At 2004-12-11, 01:20:01 you wrote: ========

> >

> > Dear Sunil,

> > I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of the

> book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Devika.

> >

> > sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

> > I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

> > astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.

> > I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to

> > kindly clear these doubts.

> > It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the things

> > related to exalted planets'.

> > I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

> > Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

> > Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

> > Saturn-7th house (aries)

> > Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

> > Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

> > As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is

> debilitated

> > but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is debilitated

> and

> > Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I donate

> the

> > things related to Venus? or Saturn?

> > Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house

of

> > chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during

> morning

> > or evening hours, then what should be the best time for donation?

> > My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

> > propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to

> chart?

> >

> >

> > Kind Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I repeat Gullu ji, that I am not advocating irresponsibility at any

stage - but at the same time feel that unnecessary mystery and danger

should not be invested into this divine knowledge so that it becomes

the property of a few instead of benefitting many.

 

By the way - I am also a student, and do not presume to be a master

and even in day to day life, to prescribe remedies is the work of a

qualified doctor and not a medical student.

 

Ritu

 

, " Gullu Badshaw "

<acura_2004> wrote:

>

> Ritu ji,

> I dont think you understood the context in which that

> discussion was started. Little knowledge is dangerous than no

> knowledge at all. That was the reason Mr. Bhardwaj told newbies not

> to go to remedies portion of the book and start prescribing

remedies.

> Though the intention of the person may be to help others but in

doing

> so he may cause the benefic planets to go malefic.

> If you have read the Lal Kitab then you must understand that it is

> not easy to figure which planet is malefic or benefic at a given

> time, so just looking at one planet that you might think is malefic

> and prescribe the remedy for that planet is not the right approach.

>

> I am sure the experts will agree with me.

>

> Ofcourse the LalKitab remedies are for good.. but ..you just can't

do

> all the remedies that are written in the book and say you can never

> be harmed.. thats wrong.

>

> I hope I am not hurting your feelings in any way. Just wanted to

make

> it clear that you can harm some one by prescribing remedies with

> little knowledge. Better leave it to the experts.

>

> With Regards

>

> Gullu

>

>

> , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they

say

> > that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal -

> since

> > they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a

> > strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-

fold

> > law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back

to

> > you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly

vulnerable

> > or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree

with -

> > one can not release negative energies without suffering the

> > consequences.

> >

> > I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not

for

> > evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally

absent,

> I

> > do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple

> > general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar

tilak)

> > can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to

plot

> > the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is

> studied

> > and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the

> > astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing

good ....

> > how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and

> caring -

> > not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear

to

> > the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be

> > benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of

the

> > Almighty.

> >

> > I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we

> > should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the

> > book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner.

> >

> > Ritu

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

> > <nk@g...> wrote:

> > > Dear Devika Dhillon:

> > > I advise all the new members not to go to the remedies portion

> now.

> > remedies is the final part of the lal kitab. Lalkitaab forbade

any

> > one to prescribe remedies before learning the Vyakaran (Grammar).

> > > As I feel, anyone who violate the above rule may invite

reaction

> of

> > wrong remedy as in case of medicine

> > >

> > > Nirmal

> > >

> > > ======== At 2004-12-11, 01:20:01 you wrote: ========

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil,

> > > I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of

the

> > book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

> > > I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

> > > astrology but I have just started learning methods of lalkitab.

> > > I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members to

> > > kindly clear these doubts.

> > > It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the

things

> > > related to exalted planets'.

> > > I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

> > > Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

> > > Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

> > > Saturn-7th house (aries)

> > > Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

> > > Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

> > > As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is

> > debilitated

> > > but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is

debilitated

> > and

> > > Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I

donate

> > the

> > > things related to Venus? or Saturn?

> > > Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth house

> of

> > > chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during

> > morning

> > > or evening hours, then what should be the best time for

donation?

> > > My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

> > > propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific to

> > chart?

> > >

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

Your anguish is right to the extent that the brilliant students

have always tendency to stay a step forward to what they study. It is

a good sign of developement. But I feel it is better to preserve our

energy to learn the basic Grammar of the book. I wish that we may

stop discussing this matter for time being and stay on the topics

given.

Best regards

Nirmal

 

, " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...>

wrote:

>

> I repeat Gullu ji, that I am not advocating irresponsibility at any

> stage - but at the same time feel that unnecessary mystery and

danger

> should not be invested into this divine knowledge so that it

becomes

> the property of a few instead of benefitting many.

>

> By the way - I am also a student, and do not presume to be a master

> and even in day to day life, to prescribe remedies is the work of a

> qualified doctor and not a medical student.

>

> Ritu

>

> , " Gullu Badshaw "

> <acura_2004> wrote:

> >

> > Ritu ji,

> > I dont think you understood the context in which that

> > discussion was started. Little knowledge is dangerous than no

> > knowledge at all. That was the reason Mr. Bhardwaj told newbies

not

> > to go to remedies portion of the book and start prescribing

> remedies.

> > Though the intention of the person may be to help others but in

> doing

> > so he may cause the benefic planets to go malefic.

> > If you have read the Lal Kitab then you must understand that it

is

> > not easy to figure which planet is malefic or benefic at a given

> > time, so just looking at one planet that you might think is

malefic

> > and prescribe the remedy for that planet is not the right

approach.

> >

> > I am sure the experts will agree with me.

> >

> > Ofcourse the LalKitab remedies are for good.. but ..you just

can't

> do

> > all the remedies that are written in the book and say you can

never

> > be harmed.. thats wrong.

> >

> > I hope I am not hurting your feelings in any way. Just wanted to

> make

> > it clear that you can harm some one by prescribing remedies with

> > little knowledge. Better leave it to the experts.

> >

> > With Regards

> >

> > Gullu

> >

> >

> > , " Ritu Lalit "

<ritulalit@h...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they

> say

> > > that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal -

> > since

> > > they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is

a

> > > strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-

> fold

> > > law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back

> to

> > > you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly

> vulnerable

> > > or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree

> with -

> > > one can not release negative energies without suffering the

> > > consequences.

> > >

> > > I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not

> for

> > > evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally

> absent,

> > I

> > > do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple

> > > general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar

> tilak)

> > > can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to

> plot

> > > the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is

> > studied

> > > and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the

> > > astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing

> good ....

> > > how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and

> > caring -

> > > not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear

> to

> > > the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be

> > > benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of

> the

> > > Almighty.

> > >

> > > I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that

we

> > > should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into

the

> > > book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear

manner.

> > >

> > > Ritu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

> > > <nk@g...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Devika Dhillon:

> > > > I advise all the new members not to go to the remedies

portion

> > now.

> > > remedies is the final part of the lal kitab. Lalkitaab forbade

> any

> > > one to prescribe remedies before learning the Vyakaran

(Grammar).

> > > > As I feel, anyone who violate the above rule may invite

> reaction

> > of

> > > wrong remedy as in case of medicine

> > > >

> > > > Nirmal

> > > >

> > > > ======== At 2004-12-11, 01:20:01 you wrote: ========

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil,

> > > > I am also new to Lal Kitab. Can you tell me the title of

> the

> > > book that you bought and also where to buy that book?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Devika.

> > > >

> > > > sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gurujan and Learned Members,

> > > > I have just joined the group,I have little knowledge of vedic

> > > > astrology but I have just started learning methods of

lalkitab.

> > > > I have some doubts, I request to gurujan and learned members

to

> > > > kindly clear these doubts.

> > > > It is advised in lal kitab that 'one should not donate the

> things

> > > > related to exalted planets'.

> > > > I have libra ascendant and the position of planets are-

> > > > Mars- 2nd house (scorpio)

> > > > Rahu and Venus-6th house (pisces)

> > > > Saturn-7th house (aries)

> > > > Mer and Sun-8th house (taurus)

> > > > Moon,Jup and Ketu-12th house (virgo)

> > > > As per vedic astrology my Venus is exalted and Saturn is

> > > debilitated

> > > > but according to method used in lalkitab my Venus is

> debilitated

> > > and

> > > > Sarurn is exalted.In this case what should I do ? Should I

> donate

> > > the

> > > > things related to Venus? or Saturn?

> > > > Again it is written in lalkitab that persons whose eighth

house

> > of

> > > > chart is occupied by sun should not donate the things during

> > > morning

> > > > or evening hours, then what should be the best time for

> donation?

> > > > My last question, applying saffron on forehead is a remedy to

> > > > propitiate jupiter,is it general purpose remedy or specific

to

> > > chart?

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> > > > Kind Regards

> > > > Sunil

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