Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Dear Members Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regarding Takraav . Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwal has rightly said that more research is required. As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationship as of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sun relationship in rtaandh grah is already clarified Best regards. lipi shakher lipshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Member, You have rightly said that 4/10 relationship is deceitful but under the chapter Ratandh Grah it is clearly mentioned that under these circumstances it is only The Sun which suffers and nothing has been mentioned about Saturn, please comment! Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwallipshaker <lipshaker wrote: Dear Members Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regardingTakraav . Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwalhas rightly said that more research is required.As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationshipas of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sunrelationship in rtaandh grah is already clarifiedBest regards. lipi shakherlipshaker Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Members/Guru Jis, *a clarification* When referring to 4/10 relationship is it specific to planets posited in these houses or the lord-ownerships. In case, it is lord-ownership, then it would be applicable only to natives with Scorpio ascendants. Pls correct me. Regards and Respects, Tejasvi (Sujan) Amar Aggarwal [gnagesh79] Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:33 PM Re: Takraav Clarification Dear Member, You have rightly said that 4/10 relationship is deceitful but under the chapter Ratandh Grah it is clearly mentioned that under these circumstances it is only The Sun which suffers and nothing has been mentioned about Saturn, please comment! Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwal lipshaker <lipshaker wrote: Dear Members Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regarding Takraav . Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwal has rightly said that more research is required. As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationship as of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sun relationship in rtaandh grah is already clarified Best regards. lipi shakher lipshaker Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Members, All the aspects are applicable only if there is a planet in the respective house. The 4:10 means that another planet is posited 4th house from it. or You can say also that a planet is posited in 10th from it(10:4) Remember that the house / planet 10th from it will suffer or you can say If the native signified by a house do the work signified by of 4th planet from it then it will suffer on account of that work/ activity. In Lal Kitab the sign in the kundli are ignored , only house numbers are considered. Gurujans please correct me, if there is any error in above as I am a novice in this subject Best Regards Nirmal , <sujanp@r...> wrote: > Dear Members/Guru Jis, > > *a clarification* > > When referring to 4/10 relationship is it specific to planets posited in > these houses or the lord-ownerships. > > In case, it is lord-ownership, then it would be applicable only to > natives with Scorpio ascendants. Pls correct me. > > Regards and Respects, > Tejasvi (Sujan) > > > Amar Aggarwal [gnagesh79] > Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:33 PM > > Re: Takraav Clarification > > Dear Member, > You have rightly said that 4/10 relationship is deceitful but > under the chapter Ratandh Grah it is clearly mentioned that under these > circumstances it is only The Sun which suffers and nothing has been > mentioned about Saturn, please comment! > Regards, > Dr.Amar Aggarwal > > lipshaker <lipshaker> wrote: > > Dear Members > Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regarding > Takraav . > Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwal > has rightly said that more research is required. > As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationship > as of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sun > relationship in rtaandh grah is already clarified > > > Best regards. > > lipi shakher > lipshaker > > > > > _____ > > > Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn > <http://us.rd./evt=29909/*http:/celebrity.mail.> > more. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Dear friends, To have a clear view about the rataandh grah we have to examine the case Andhe grah ka teva. Where it is written that if two or more mutual inimical planets posited in 10th house then it is called the andhe grah ka teva. Why only in 10th? This means that 10th house is related directly with the sight. Now let us examine the rataandh grah. It exists when the sun is in 4th and saturn in 7th. Means saturn is exalted. The sun in 4th have 100%(As per LK Aspects) negative effect on 10th house, the pakka ghar of Saturn.(Please see the result of Sun in 10th) It is said that that sight may suffer for sun alone being in 10th.(100% effect) Then how the sight is saved for day time. As we know that the Saturn has Lend one eye to venus. and Saturn is exalted in venus house has his gaine one eye which has been lent to venus. So the half sight is there. There is no effect of saturn 10th aspect on Sun. It is due to the aspect of sun on 10th and exalted saturn. These are the my interpreted views of LK. Co-Members are free to add their views Shakher , Amar Aggarwal <gnagesh79> wrote: > Dear Member, > You have rightly said that 4/10 relationship is deceitful but under the chapter Ratandh Grah it is clearly mentioned that under these circumstances it is only The Sun which suffers and nothing has been mentioned about Saturn, please comment! > Regards, > Dr.Amar Aggarwal > > lipshaker <lipshaker> wrote: > > Dear Members > Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regarding > Takraav . > Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwal > has rightly said that more research is required. > As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationship > as of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sun > relationship in rtaandh grah is already clarified > > > Best regards. > > lipi shakher > lipshaker > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 Dear Member, It is not discussion regarding Andhe Grah or Ratandh Grah but point was pertaining to 4/10 position of planets as mentioned by some members, where some had views that in case a planet is posited 10th from any planet suffers and in this regard i have send my views regarding the placement of planets in their pucca ghars at the same time these planet are placed 4/10to each other in such a case will a planet in 10th from other suffer inspite of their friendship? I feel these planet donot harm each other and in this regard I will like share an example ie.in case Saturn be placed in 5th house and the Sun is placed in 10th house in such a case inspite of enmity Satrun and the Sun will not harm each other, rather they behave like sathi grahs. Comments from other members, Dr.Amar Aggarwallipshaker <lipshaker wrote: Dear friends, To have a clear view about the rataandh grah we have to examinethe case Andhe grah ka teva. Where it is written that if two or moremutual inimical planets posited in 10th house then it is called theandhe grah ka teva. Why only in 10th?This means that 10th house is related directly with the sight. Now letus examine the rataandh grah.It exists when the sun is in 4th and saturn in 7th. Means saturn isexalted. The sun in 4th have 100%(As per LK Aspects) negative effecton 10th house, the pakka ghar of Saturn.(Please see the result of Sunin 10th) It is said that that sight may suffer for sun alone being in10th.(100% effect)Then how the sight is saved for day time. As we know that the Saturnhas Lend one eye to venus. and Saturn is exalted in venus house hashis gaine one eye which has been lent to venus.So the half sight is there.There is no effect of saturn 10th aspect on Sun. It is due to theaspect of sun on 10th and exalted saturn.These are the my interpreted views of LK. Co-Members are free to addtheir viewsShakher , Amar Aggarwal <gnagesh79>wrote:> Dear Member,> You have rightly said that 4/10 relationship is deceitfulbut under the chapter Ratandh Grah it is clearly mentioned that underthese circumstances it is only The Sun which suffers and nothing hasbeen mentioned about Saturn, please comment!> Regards,> Dr.Amar Aggarwal> > lipshaker <lipshaker> wrote:> > Dear Members> Sh. Aggarwal has given clarification rightly regarding> Takraav . > Regarding Rtaandh grah and the more research on aspects , Mr Aggarwal> has rightly said that more research is required.> As i have read the Lal Kitaab specifically given the 4:10 relationship> as of decietful / dhokha. i.e. Bad in every matter. so the Saturn Sun> relationship in rtaandh grah is already clarified> > > Best regards. > > lipi shakher> lipshaker> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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