Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 sir. natal chart is;- shani-2, chandra rahu-3, mangal-6, sooraj,budh- 7, shukkr-8, ketu-9, brahspat-9. VARSHPHAL CHART for 44th year is chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, mangal-9, shani-10, brahspat-11, sooraj budh 12, FAISLAKUN kundali- chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, ketu-9, shain- 10 (HERE SEEMS SOME MISPRINT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO VARSHPHAL CHART SHANI COMES TO 10 BUT HERE IT IS WRITTEN AS SHUKKR) BRAHSPAT 12. now shani comes DO DAFA not shukkr. may be here umesh is right. this has to be probed further, let's have aword from prabhakr ji and nirmal ji also. kulbir bains - -- In , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Respected Umesh JI > I was seeing horoscope charts provided by you in foto section & reading > your views at the topic which was raised by Kulbir Ji as-- " PEHLE GHARON > MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON > MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE > GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN > DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA > BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE > MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE.. > But umesh ji the technique used by u to find out the Planet OF > DHOKA, that implies only the horoscope which is provided by you.Why u > forgot to use the kundali which has been used at last of 1942 edition ? > iN that edition the technique used by you to search Dhokhe ka > planet,absolutely fails ,The planet of cheating is VENUS in that > horoscope (Yograj ji & Nirmal ji please correct me with the help of > 1942 book).If we use only verdicts of u then what will be planet of > DHOKHA . I think u used SOORAJ NUMBER 11 or 12 INDEXES to find out the > planet of DHOKHA.If so then i want to say that serial (TARTEEB) of the > planets deffers in both indexes, due to this ,using ur technique there > will be confusion to find out " DHOKE KA PLANET " in 48 th & 52 nd year of > varshfal So what u say about that with ur deep insight.In fact as per > using of Varshfal & janm kundali for faisle ki kundali, that is so > simple as u explained & it is much obvious by that example of the book > 1942 at page no. 384. > With regards > Lalkitabee > , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > I am trying to analysis of these lines with examples which are you > > queted in your message.I load two photographs in photo section in > > name of kundli no.1 & 2, and faisle ki kundlee. > > Example: 14-04-1955 Time:-23:55, Place: jullunder. > > TERM NO.1 : PEHLE GHARON MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > QU: WHICH PLANET/PLANETS > > ANS:THOSE COME IN PHALEY GHARON (FROM 1ST TO 6TH CALLED PAHLEY GHAR > > AND 7TH TO 12EV CALLED BAAD KE GHAR)SO “SUN, MARS,MERC.,JUPI > AND > > KETU†COME IN “ PAHLE GHARON MEIN†IN VARSHAPHAL > KUNDLEE. WE NOTE > > DOWN THESE IN FAISLEY KI KUNDLI. > > 2ND TERM: BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > ANS: JUPI.+KETU & SATURN BAAD KE GHARON MAIN IN JANAM KI KUNDLEE. (I > > CLEARED BAAD KE GHAR MY ABOVE LINES.)IT IS ALSO NOTED IN FAISLE KI > > KUNDLI > > 3. IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. > > ANS: IN THIS JANAM KUNDLEE “SUN†COMES AS A > “DHOKEY KA GRAH†IN 53’S > > VARSHAPHAL.(HOW TO FIND DHOKE KA GRAH READ MY BOOK " LALKITAB- VYAKARAN > > AUR VYAKHYA OR VYAKARAN SECTION OF LAL-KITAB 1952 EDITION) > > YOU SEE PHOTOS OF EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION. > > TERM NO.3: :JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA > > IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE > > ANS: AS PER ABOVE TERM THE JUPITER, KETU AND SUN ARE THE KEY PLANETS. > > BECAUSE THOSE ARE COME TWO TIMES. > > DO NOT COUNT MARS AND MERC. IN FESLAY KI KUNDLEE BECAUSE BOTH PLANTS > > COME IN THEIR OWN HOUSES WHERE THEY SITITUTED IN JANAM KI KUNDLEE. > > I TRY WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. > > I HEARTLY OBLIZED IF SENIORS ARE GIVE THEIR OPINION. > > REGARDS > > UMESH SHARMA > > ( YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.) > > > > > > , kulbir bains kulbirbains@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera friends, what i have concluded that lalkitab is very much > > like the english language. like u cannot questionh why knilfe has a k > > as prefix and pneumonia has a p as prefix lk has similar principles > > which cannot be argued upon. for instance in the 42 edition pt. ji > > gave elaborate explanations to analyse a tewa and also analyzed a few > > tewas in the end. but there lies a bomb shell in the one tewa which > > unfortunately does not appear in the dalda books. in this tewa pt. ji > > stressed for analyzing varshphal remedies THAT PEHLE GHARON MEIN > > VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI > > KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. > > NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH > > APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA > > DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE. > > here i ask for help from Prabhakar ji and nirmal ji who enlightened > > me with this technique perhaps > > > umesh, bhatia ji and lalkitabi also know more about this technique. > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here?s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 extremely sorry i got confused between pehle ke and baaad ke grahon mein grah kis tartib se likhne hain BUT THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS HOW DOES SHUKKR BECOME DHOKE KA GRAH IN THIS FAISLAKUN KUNDALI.umesh ji kindly explain. KULBIR BAINS--- In , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > sir. natal chart is;- shani-2, chandra rahu-3, mangal-6, sooraj,budh- > 7, shukkr-8, ketu-9, brahspat-9. VARSHPHAL CHART for 44th year is > chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, mangal-9, shani-10, brahspat-11, sooraj > budh 12, FAISLAKUN kundali- chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, ketu-9, shain- > 10 (HERE SEEMS SOME MISPRINT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO VARSHPHAL CHART > SHANI COMES TO 10 BUT HERE IT IS WRITTEN AS SHUKKR) BRAHSPAT 12. now > shani comes DO DAFA not shukkr. may be here umesh is right. this has > to be probed further, let's have aword from prabhakr ji and nirmal > ji also. > kulbir bains - > -- In , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Umesh JI > > I was seeing horoscope charts provided by you in foto section & > reading > > your views at the topic which was raised by Kulbir Ji as-- " PEHLE > GHARON > > MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON > > MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE > > GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN > > DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA > > BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE > > MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE.. > > But umesh ji the technique used by u to find out the Planet > OF > > DHOKA, that implies only the horoscope which is provided by > you.Why u > > forgot to use the kundali which has been used at last of 1942 > edition ? > > iN that edition the technique used by you to search Dhokhe ka > > planet,absolutely fails ,The planet of cheating is VENUS in that > > horoscope (Yograj ji & Nirmal ji please correct me with the help > of > > 1942 book).If we use only verdicts of u then what will be planet of > > DHOKHA . I think u used SOORAJ NUMBER 11 or 12 INDEXES to find > out the > > planet of DHOKHA.If so then i want to say that serial (TARTEEB) of > the > > planets deffers in both indexes, due to this ,using ur technique > there > > will be confusion to find out " DHOKE KA PLANET " in 48 th & 52 nd > year of > > varshfal So what u say about that with ur deep insight.In fact as > per > > using of Varshfal & janm kundali for faisle ki kundali, that is so > > simple as u explained & it is much obvious by that example of the > book > > 1942 at page no. 384. > > With regards > > Lalkitabee > > , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > > I am trying to analysis of these lines with examples which are > you > > > queted in your message.I load two photographs in photo section in > > > name of kundli no.1 & 2, and faisle ki kundlee. > > > Example: 14-04-1955 Time:-23:55, Place: jullunder. > > > TERM NO.1 : PEHLE GHARON MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > > QU: WHICH PLANET/PLANETS > > > ANS:THOSE COME IN PHALEY GHARON (FROM 1ST TO 6TH CALLED PAHLEY > GHAR > > > AND 7TH TO 12EV CALLED BAAD KE GHAR)SO “SUN, MARS,MERC.,JUPI > > AND > > > KETU†COME IN “ PAHLE GHARON MEIN†IN VARSHAPHAL > > KUNDLEE. WE NOTE > > > DOWN THESE IN FAISLEY KI KUNDLI. > > > 2ND TERM: BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > > ANS: JUPI.+KETU & SATURN BAAD KE GHARON MAIN IN JANAM KI KUNDLEE. > (I > > > CLEARED BAAD KE GHAR MY ABOVE LINES.)IT IS ALSO NOTED IN FAISLE > KI > > > KUNDLI > > > 3. IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. > > > ANS: IN THIS JANAM KUNDLEE “SUN†COMES AS A > > “DHOKEY KA GRAH†IN 53’S > > > VARSHAPHAL.(HOW TO FIND DHOKE KA GRAH READ MY BOOK " LALKITAB- > VYAKARAN > > > AUR VYAKHYA OR VYAKARAN SECTION OF LAL-KITAB 1952 EDITION) > > > YOU SEE PHOTOS OF EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION. > > > TERM NO.3: :JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA > FAISLA > > > IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE > > > ANS: AS PER ABOVE TERM THE JUPITER, KETU AND SUN ARE THE KEY > PLANETS. > > > BECAUSE THOSE ARE COME TWO TIMES. > > > DO NOT COUNT MARS AND MERC. IN FESLAY KI KUNDLEE BECAUSE BOTH > PLANTS > > > COME IN THEIR OWN HOUSES WHERE THEY SITITUTED IN JANAM KI > KUNDLEE. > > > I TRY WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. > > > I HEARTLY OBLIZED IF SENIORS ARE GIVE THEIR OPINION. > > > REGARDS > > > UMESH SHARMA > > > ( YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.) > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bains kulbirbains@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera friends, what i have concluded that lalkitab is very much > > > like the english language. like u cannot questionh why knilfe > has a k > > > as prefix and pneumonia has a p as prefix lk has similar > principles > > > which cannot be argued upon. for instance in the 42 edition pt. > ji > > > gave elaborate explanations to analyse a tewa and also analyzed > a few > > > tewas in the end. but there lies a bomb shell in the one tewa > which > > > unfortunately does not appear in the dalda books. in this tewa > pt. ji > > > stressed for analyzing varshphal remedies THAT PEHLE GHARON MEIN > > > VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM > KUNDALI > > > KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE > JAYENGE. > > > NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE > WAH > > > APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA > FAISLA > > > DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE MUTABIK FAISLA > DENGE. > > > here i ask for help from Prabhakar ji and nirmal ji who > enlightened > > > me with this technique perhaps > > > > umesh, bhatia ji and lalkitabi also know more about this > technique. > > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here?s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Kulbeer, Take those planet which are come in Pahle Gharon Main in “VARSHAâ€"KUNDLI†and note as usual in “Faisle ki Kundli†see example chart No.2(53rd VARSHAPHAL) : Sun in 1st house ,Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, Merc. In 4th house, Mars in 6th house, Venus in 7th house and Saturn in 8th house, Moon+rahu in 11th house. So in “Faisle ki Kundli†we note Sun in 1st house, Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, After it we take “Baad ke gharon main aaye hue Grahâ€in JANAM-KUNDLI and note in “Faisley ki Kundli†as usual. See Chart no.1, in this Jupi+Ketu in 7th house and Saturn in 11th house, we note this planetry combination in Faisle ki kundli as usual. Now “Faisle ki Kundli†Sun in 1st house, Jupi+ketu in 3rd and 7th house, Saturn in 11th house. Here we do not take Merc. And Mars, Because those again came in those houses in which they are in Natal chart means Janamkundli and Moon+Rahu is in baad ke gharon main in Varsh-Kundli. In 10th house we note “DHOKEY KA GRAH†For find to Dhokey ka grah, use table which is below 1. Suraj , 2. chandra, 3. Ketu, 4. Mangal, 5. Budh, 6. Shani, 7. Rahu, 8. Khaana No. 8 ke Grah(Maut)( If it is empty than consider Mars & Saturn), Khaana No. 9 ke Grah(PitriGrah)( If it is empty than consider Brahaspati.), 10. Brahaspati, 11. Shukar, 12. Khaana No. 12 ke Grah(Rashi Khatam)( If it is empty than consider Brahaspati.), 2. Write counting 12x10=120 AAM UMAR MAIN DHOKEY KA 12 SAALA CHAKAR-----( from 1942's Edition) Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut PitriG Guru Shu. RashiKhatam 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 x120 See where is Sun in Janam Kundli and in which year Sun will come in 1st house, write Sun below that year in which he comes in 1st house. As perâ€Example Kundli†Sun is in 5th house and in 5th year it will come in 1st house. So we write Sun below in 5th and balance is as per sequence. PG Gu Shu RK Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 x120 PG=Pitri Grah, RK= Rashi Khatam As per chart you can see “SUN†is a “DHOKEY ka GRAH†in 53 year Sun in 1st house. Jupiter and Ketu in 3rd house Jupiter and Ketu in 7th house, Sun in 10th house(As Per Dhoke Ka Grah) Saturn in 11th house. So, Jupiter, Ketu and Sun are the Key-Planets in this year's Faisle-ki-Kundli.Sun also consider as “Dhokey ka Grahâ€Merc. In 4th and Mars in 6th are not consider in this Kundli, because of those are in houses in which they in Janam-Kundli. In last, Take “Pahle gharon ke Grah from Varshakundli and take Baad ke Gharon from janam kundli, and in 10th house write Dhokey ka Grah. Which planet/planets come twice that planet/planets that/those is/are KEY PLANET/PLANETS. With My Little Knowledge Regards Umesh Sharma , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> extremely sorry i got confused between pehle ke and baaad ke grahon > mein grah kis tartib se likhne hain BUT THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS > HOW DOES SHUKKR BECOME DHOKE KA GRAH IN THIS FAISLAKUN KUNDALI.umesh > ji kindly explain.> KULBIR BAINS---> In , "kulbirbains" kulbirbains@ > wrote:> >> > sir. natal chart is;- shani-2, chandra rahu-3, mangal-6, > sooraj,budh-> > 7, shukkr-8, ketu-9, brahspat-9. VARSHPHAL CHART for 44th year is > > chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, mangal-9, shani-10, brahspat-11, sooraj > > budh 12, FAISLAKUN kundali- chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, ketu-9, > shain-> > 10 (HERE SEEMS SOME MISPRINT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO VARSHPHAL CHART > > SHANI COMES TO 10 BUT HERE IT IS WRITTEN AS SHUKKR) BRAHSPAT 12. > now > > shani comes DO DAFA not shukkr. may be here umesh is right. this > has > > to be probed further, let's have aword from prabhakr ji and nirmal > > ji also.> > kulbir > bains -> > -- In , "lalkitabee" <lalkitabee@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Umesh JI> > > I was seeing horoscope charts provided by you in foto section & > > reading> > > your views at the topic which was raised by Kulbir Ji as--"PEHLE > > GHARON> > > MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON> > > MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE > KE> > > GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI > MEIN> > > DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA > YA> > > BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL > KE> > > MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE..> > > But umesh ji the technique used by u to find out the > Planet > > OF> > > DHOKA, that implies only the horoscope which is provided by > > you.Why u> > > forgot to use the kundali which has been used at last of 1942 > > edition ?> > > iN that edition the technique used by you to search Dhokhe ka> > > planet,absolutely fails ,The planet of cheating is VENUS in that> > > horoscope (Yograj ji & Nirmal ji please correct me with the > help > > of> > > 1942 book).If we use only verdicts of u then what will be planet > of> > > DHOKHA . I think u used SOORAJ NUMBER 11 or 12 INDEXES to find > > out the> > > planet of DHOKHA.If so then i want to say that serial (TARTEEB) > of > > the> > > planets deffers in both indexes, due to this ,using ur > technique > > there> > > will be confusion to find out "DHOKE KA PLANET" in 48 th & 52 nd > > year of> > > varshfal So what u say about that with ur deep insight.In fact > as > > per> > > using of Varshfal & janm kundali for faisle ki kundali, that is > so> > > simple as u explained & it is much obvious by that example of > the > > book> > > 1942 at page no. 384.> > > With regards> > > Lalkitabee> > > , "Umesh Sharma" > <mudit982001@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbeer,> > > > I am trying to analysis of these lines with examples which are > > you> > > > queted in your message.I load two photographs in photo section > in> > > > name of kundli no.1 & 2, and faisle ki kundlee.> > > > Example: 14-04-1955 Time:-23:55, Place: jullunder.> > > > TERM NO.1 : PEHLE GHARON MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE> > > > QU: WHICH PLANET/PLANETS> > > > ANS:THOSE COME IN PHALEY GHARON (FROM 1ST TO 6TH CALLED PAHLEY > > GHAR> > > > AND 7TH TO 12EV CALLED BAAD KE GHAR)SO “SUN, MARS,MERC.,JUPI> > > AND> > > > KETU†COME IN “ PAHLE GHARON MEIN†IN VARSHAPHAL> > > KUNDLEE. WE NOTE> > > > DOWN THESE IN FAISLEY KI KUNDLI.> > > > 2ND TERM: BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE > JAYENGE> > > > ANS: JUPI.+KETU & SATURN BAAD KE GHARON MAIN IN JANAM KI > KUNDLEE.> > (I> > > > CLEARED BAAD KE GHAR MY ABOVE LINES.)IT IS ALSO NOTED IN > FAISLE > > KI> > > > KUNDLI> > > > 3. IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE.> > > > ANS: IN THIS JANAM KUNDLEE “SUN†COMES AS A> > > “DHOKEY KA GRAH†IN 53’S> > > > VARSHAPHAL.(HOW TO FIND DHOKE KA GRAH READ MY BOOK "LALKITAB-> > VYAKARAN> > > > AUR VYAKHYA OR VYAKARAN SECTION OF LAL-KITAB 1952 EDITION)> > > > YOU SEE PHOTOS OF EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.> > > > TERM NO.3: :JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA > > FAISLA> > > > IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE> > > > ANS: AS PER ABOVE TERM THE JUPITER, KETU AND SUN ARE THE KEY > > PLANETS.> > > > BECAUSE THOSE ARE COME TWO TIMES.> > > > DO NOT COUNT MARS AND MERC. IN FESLAY KI KUNDLEE BECAUSE BOTH > > PLANTS> > > > COME IN THEIR OWN HOUSES WHERE THEY SITITUTED IN JANAM KI > > KUNDLEE.> > > > I TRY WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE.> > > > I HEARTLY OBLIZED IF SENIORS ARE GIVE THEIR OPINION.> > > > REGARDS> > > > UMESH SHARMA> > > > ( YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.)> > > >> > > >> > > > , kulbir bains kulbirbains@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dera friends, what i have concluded that lalkitab is very > much> > > > like the english language. like u cannot questionh why knilfe > > has a k> > > > as prefix and pneumonia has a p as prefix lk has similar > > principles> > > > which cannot be argued upon. for instance in the 42 edition > pt. > > ji> > > > gave elaborate explanations to analyse a tewa and also > analyzed > > a few> > > > tewas in the end. but there lies a bomb shell in the one tewa > > which> > > > unfortunately does not appear in the dalda books. in this tewa > > pt. ji> > > > stressed for analyzing varshphal remedies THAT PEHLE GHARON > MEIN> > > > VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM > > KUNDALI> > > > KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE > > JAYENGE.> > > > NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA > JAYE > > WAH> > > > APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA > > FAISLA> > > > DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE MUTABIK FAISLA > > DENGE.> > > > here i ask for help from Prabhakar ji and nirmal ji who > > enlightened> > > > me with this technique perhaps> > > > > umesh, bhatia ji and lalkitabi also know more about this > > technique.> > > > >> > > > kulbir bains> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Here?s a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Thanx guruji, Dr. KIRANJIT JI hinted towards this system but i couldn't fully understand its implications then. Sincerest aplogy and thanx again to Dr. KIRANJIT kulbir bains --- In , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001 wrote: > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > Take those planet which are come in Pahle Gharon Main in > “VARSHA†" KUNDLI†and note as usual in “Faisle > ki Kundli†see example chart No.2(53rd VARSHAPHAL) : Sun in 1st > house ,Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, Merc. In 4th house, Mars in 6th house, > Venus in 7th house and Saturn in 8th house, Moon+rahu in 11th house. > > So in “Faisle ki Kundli†we note Sun in 1st house, > Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, > > After it we take “Baad ke gharon main aaye hue Grahâ€in > JANAM-KUNDLI and note in “Faisley ki Kundli†as usual. > > See Chart no.1, in this Jupi+Ketu in 7th house and Saturn in 11th house, > we note this planetry combination in Faisle ki kundli as usual. > > Now “Faisle ki Kundli†> > Sun in 1st house, Jupi+ketu in 3rd and 7th house, Saturn in 11th house. > > Here we do not take Merc. And Mars, Because those again came in those > houses in which they are in Natal chart means Janamkundli and Moon+Rahu > is in baad ke gharon main in Varsh-Kundli. > > In 10th house we note “DHOKEY KA GRAH†> > For find to Dhokey ka grah, use table which is below > > 1. Suraj , 2. chandra, 3. Ketu, 4. Mangal, 5. Budh, 6. Shani, 7. Rahu, > 8. Khaana No. 8 ke Grah(Maut)( If it is empty than consider Mars & > Saturn), Khaana No. 9 ke Grah(PitriGrah)( If it is empty than consider > Brahaspati.), 10. Brahaspati, 11. Shukar, 12. Khaana No. 12 ke > Grah(Rashi Khatam)( If it is empty than consider Brahaspati.), > > 2. Write counting 12x10=120 > > AAM UMAR MAIN DHOKEY KA 12 SAALA CHAKAR-----( from 1942's Edition) > > Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut PitriG Guru Shu. RashiKhatam > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 > 10 11 12 > > 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 > 23 24 > > 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 > 35 36 > > 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 > 47 48 > > 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 > 59 60 > > 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 > 71 72 x120 > > See where is Sun in Janam Kundli and in which year Sun will come in 1st > house, write Sun below that year in which he comes in 1st house. As > perâ€Example Kundli†Sun is in 5th house and in 5th year it > will come in 1st house. So we write Sun below in 5th and balance is as > per sequence. > > PG Gu Shu RK Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > 11 12 > > 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 > 24 > > 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 > 36 > > 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 > 48 > > 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 > 60 > > 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 > 72 x120 PG=Pitri Grah, RK= Rashi Khatam > > As per chart you can see “SUN†is a “DHOKEY ka > GRAH†in 53 year > > Sun in 1st house. Jupiter and Ketu in 3rd house > > Jupiter and Ketu in 7th house, Sun in 10th house(As Per Dhoke Ka Grah) > > Saturn in 11th house. > > So, Jupiter, Ketu and Sun are the Key-Planets in this year's > Faisle-ki-Kundli. > Sun also consider as “Dhokey ka Grah†> Merc. In 4th and Mars in 6th are not consider in this Kundli, because of > those are in houses in which they in Janam-Kundli. > In last, Take “Pahle gharon ke Grah from Varshakundli and take > Baad ke Gharon from janam kundli, and in 10th house write Dhokey ka > Grah. Which planet/planets come twice that planet/planets that/those > is/are KEY PLANET/PLANETS. > > With My Little Knowledge > > Regards > > Umesh Sharma > > , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > wrote: > > > > extremely sorry i got confused between pehle ke and baaad ke grahon > > mein grah kis tartib se likhne hain BUT THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS > > HOW DOES SHUKKR BECOME DHOKE KA GRAH IN THIS FAISLAKUN KUNDALI.umesh > > ji kindly explain. > > KULBIR BAINS--- > > In , " kulbirbains " kulbirbains@ > > wrote: > > > > > > sir. natal chart is;- shani-2, chandra rahu-3, mangal-6, > > sooraj,budh- > > > 7, shukkr-8, ketu-9, brahspat-9. VARSHPHAL CHART for 44th year is > > > chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, mangal-9, shani-10, brahspat-11, sooraj > > > budh 12, FAISLAKUN kundali- chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, ketu-9, > > shain- > > > 10 (HERE SEEMS SOME MISPRINT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO VARSHPHAL CHART > > > SHANI COMES TO 10 BUT HERE IT IS WRITTEN AS SHUKKR) BRAHSPAT 12. > > now > > > shani comes DO DAFA not shukkr. may be here umesh is right. this > > has > > > to be probed further, let's have aword from prabhakr ji and nirmal > > > ji also. > > > kulbir > > bains - > > > -- In , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Umesh JI > > > > I was seeing horoscope charts provided by you in foto section & > > > reading > > > > your views at the topic which was raised by Kulbir Ji as-- " PEHLE > > > GHARON > > > > MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON > > > > MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE > > KE > > > > GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI > > MEIN > > > > DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA > > YA > > > > BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL > > KE > > > > MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE.. > > > > But umesh ji the technique used by u to find out the > > Planet > > > OF > > > > DHOKA, that implies only the horoscope which is provided by > > > you.Why u > > > > forgot to use the kundali which has been used at last of 1942 > > > edition ? > > > > iN that edition the technique used by you to search Dhokhe ka > > > > planet,absolutely fails ,The planet of cheating is VENUS in that > > > > horoscope (Yograj ji & Nirmal ji please correct me with the > > help > > > of > > > > 1942 book).If we use only verdicts of u then what will be planet > > of > > > > DHOKHA . I think u used SOORAJ NUMBER 11 or 12 INDEXES to find > > > out the > > > > planet of DHOKHA.If so then i want to say that serial (TARTEEB) > > of > > > the > > > > planets deffers in both indexes, due to this ,using ur > > technique > > > there > > > > will be confusion to find out " DHOKE KA PLANET " in 48 th & 52 nd > > > year of > > > > varshfal So what u say about that with ur deep insight.In fact > > as > > > per > > > > using of Varshfal & janm kundali for faisle ki kundali, that is > > so > > > > simple as u explained & it is much obvious by that example of > > the > > > book > > > > 1942 at page no. 384. > > > > With regards > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > <mudit982001@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > > > > I am trying to analysis of these lines with examples which are > > > you > > > > > queted in your message.I load two photographs in photo section > > in > > > > > name of kundli no.1 & 2, and faisle ki kundlee. > > > > > Example: 14-04-1955 Time:-23:55, Place: jullunder. > > > > > TERM NO.1 : PEHLE GHARON MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > > > > QU: WHICH PLANET/PLANETS > > > > > ANS:THOSE COME IN PHALEY GHARON (FROM 1ST TO 6TH CALLED PAHLEY > > > GHAR > > > > > AND 7TH TO 12EV CALLED BAAD KE GHAR)SO “SUN, > MARS,MERC.,JUPI > > > > AND > > > > > KETU†COME IN “ PAHLE GHARON MEIN†IN > VARSHAPHAL > > > > KUNDLEE. WE NOTE > > > > > DOWN THESE IN FAISLEY KI KUNDLI. > > > > > 2ND TERM: BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE > > JAYENGE > > > > > ANS: JUPI.+KETU & SATURN BAAD KE GHARON MAIN IN JANAM KI > > KUNDLEE. > > > (I > > > > > CLEARED BAAD KE GHAR MY ABOVE LINES.)IT IS ALSO NOTED IN > > FAISLE > > > KI > > > > > KUNDLI > > > > > 3. IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. > > > > > ANS: IN THIS JANAM KUNDLEE “SUN†COMES AS A > > > > “DHOKEY KA GRAH†IN 53’S > > > > > VARSHAPHAL.(HOW TO FIND DHOKE KA GRAH READ MY BOOK " LALKITAB- > > > VYAKARAN > > > > > AUR VYAKHYA OR VYAKARAN SECTION OF LAL-KITAB 1952 EDITION) > > > > > YOU SEE PHOTOS OF EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION. > > > > > TERM NO.3: :JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA > > > FAISLA > > > > > IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE > > > > > ANS: AS PER ABOVE TERM THE JUPITER, KETU AND SUN ARE THE KEY > > > PLANETS. > > > > > BECAUSE THOSE ARE COME TWO TIMES. > > > > > DO NOT COUNT MARS AND MERC. IN FESLAY KI KUNDLEE BECAUSE BOTH > > > PLANTS > > > > > COME IN THEIR OWN HOUSES WHERE THEY SITITUTED IN JANAM KI > > > KUNDLEE. > > > > > I TRY WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. > > > > > I HEARTLY OBLIZED IF SENIORS ARE GIVE THEIR OPINION. > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > UMESH SHARMA > > > > > ( YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bains kulbirbains@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera friends, what i have concluded that lalkitab is very > > much > > > > > like the english language. like u cannot questionh why knilfe > > > has a k > > > > > as prefix and pneumonia has a p as prefix lk has similar > > > principles > > > > > which cannot be argued upon. for instance in the 42 edition > > pt. > > > ji > > > > > gave elaborate explanations to analyse a tewa and also > > analyzed > > > a few > > > > > tewas in the end. but there lies a bomb shell in the one tewa > > > which > > > > > unfortunately does not appear in the dalda books. in this tewa > > > pt. ji > > > > > stressed for analyzing varshphal remedies THAT PEHLE GHARON > > MEIN > > > > > VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM > > > KUNDALI > > > > > KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE > > > JAYENGE. > > > > > NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA > > JAYE > > > WAH > > > > > APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA > > > FAISLA > > > > > DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE MUTABIK FAISLA > > > DENGE. > > > > > here i ask for help from Prabhakar ji and nirmal ji who > > > enlightened > > > > > me with this technique perhaps > > > > > > umesh, bhatia ji and lalkitabi also know more about this > > > technique. > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here?s a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Respected Umesh Ji, I want to add in the method of finding dhokay kaa grah given by you in the example. As per LalKitab, not Always, we have to see the year when the sun in Varshphal visit the Takht. Here ia an exceptional condition " When The Sooraj is in Khana no 7 of Janam Kundli and Takht is Khali(Vacant), then we have to calculate the Dhokay the grah (as per method given in Lalkitab and also described in example given by you) by assuming sooraj as in khana no 5. not in khana no.7. If the Khana no 1 is occupied then we have to keep the sooraj in khana 7 as it is. Regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001 wrote: > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > Take those planet which are come in Pahle Gharon Main in > “VARSHA†" KUNDLI†& #65533; and note as usual in “Faisle > ki Kundli†& #65533; see example chart No.2(53rd VARSHAPHAL) : Sun in 1st > house ,Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, Merc. In 4th house, Mars in 6th house, > Venus in 7th house and Saturn in 8th house, Moon+rahu in 11th house. > > So in “Faisle ki Kundli†& #65533; we note Sun in 1st house, > Jupi+Ketu in 3rd house, > > After it we take “Baad ke gharon main aaye hue Grah†& #65533;in > JANAM-KUNDLI and note in “Faisley ki Kundli†& #65533; as usual. > > See Chart no.1, in this Jupi+Ketu in 7th house and Saturn in 11th house, > we note this planetry combination in Faisle ki kundli as usual. > > Now “Faisle ki Kundli†& #65533; > > Sun in 1st house, Jupi+ketu in 3rd and 7th house, Saturn in 11th house. > > Here we do not take Merc. And Mars, Because those again came in those > houses in which they are in Natal chart means Janamkundli and Moon+Rahu > is in baad ke gharon main in Varsh-Kundli. > > In 10th house we note “DHOKEY KA GRAH†& #65533; > > For find to Dhokey ka grah, use table which is below > > 1. Suraj , 2. chandra, 3. Ketu, 4. Mangal, 5. Budh, 6. Shani, 7. Rahu, > 8. Khaana No. 8 ke Grah(Maut)( If it is empty than consider Mars & > Saturn), Khaana No. 9 ke Grah(PitriGrah)( If it is empty than consider > Brahaspati.), 10. Brahaspati, 11. Shukar, 12. Khaana No. 12 ke > Grah(Rashi Khatam)( If it is empty than consider Brahaspati.), > > 2. Write counting 12x10=120 > > AAM UMAR MAIN DHOKEY KA 12 SAALA CHAKAR-----( from 1942's Edition) > > Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut PitriG Guru Shu. RashiKhatam > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 > 10 11 12 > > 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 > 23 24 > > 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 > 35 36 > > 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 > 47 48 > > 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 > 59 60 > > 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 > 71 72 x120 > > See where is Sun in Janam Kundli and in which year Sun will come in 1st > house, write Sun below that year in which he comes in 1st house. As > per†& #65533;Example Kundli†& #65533; Sun is in 5th house and in 5th year it > will come in 1st house. So we write Sun below in 5th and balance is as > per sequence. > > PG Gu Shu RK Su. Cha. Ketu Man. Bu. Sha. Ra. Maut > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > 11 12 > > 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 > 24 > > 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 > 36 > > 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 > 48 > > 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 > 60 > > 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 > 72 x120 PG=Pitri Grah, RK= Rashi Khatam > > As per chart you can see “SUN†& #65533; is a “DHOKEY ka > GRAH†& #65533; in 53 year > > Sun in 1st house. Jupiter and Ketu in 3rd house > > Jupiter and Ketu in 7th house, Sun in 10th house(As Per Dhoke Ka Grah) > > Saturn in 11th house. > > So, Jupiter, Ketu and Sun are the Key-Planets in this year's > Faisle-ki-Kundli. > Sun also consider as “Dhokey ka Grah†& #65533; > Merc. In 4th and Mars in 6th are not consider in this Kundli, because of > those are in houses in which they in Janam-Kundli. > In last, Take “Pahle gharon ke Grah from Varshakundli and take > Baad ke Gharon from janam kundli, and in 10th house write Dhokey ka > Grah. Which planet/planets come twice that planet/planets that/those > is/are KEY PLANET/PLANETS. > > With My Little Knowledge > > Regards > > Umesh Sharma > > , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > wrote: > > > > extremely sorry i got confused between pehle ke and baaad ke grahon > > mein grah kis tartib se likhne hain BUT THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS > > HOW DOES SHUKKR BECOME DHOKE KA GRAH IN THIS FAISLAKUN KUNDALI.umesh > > ji kindly explain. > > KULBIR BAINS--- > > In , " kulbirbains " kulbirbains@ > > wrote: > > > > > > sir. natal chart is;- shani-2, chandra rahu-3, mangal-6, > > sooraj,budh- > > > 7, shukkr-8, ketu-9, brahspat-9. VARSHPHAL CHART for 44th year is > > > chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, mangal-9, shani-10, brahspat-11, sooraj > > > budh 12, FAISLAKUN kundali- chandra rahu-5, shukkr-8, ketu-9, > > shain- > > > 10 (HERE SEEMS SOME MISPRINT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO VARSHPHAL CHART > > > SHANI COMES TO 10 BUT HERE IT IS WRITTEN AS SHUKKR) BRAHSPAT 12. > > now > > > shani comes DO DAFA not shukkr. may be here umesh is right. this > > has > > > to be probed further, let's have aword from prabhakr ji and nirmal > > > ji also. > > > kulbir > > bains - > > > -- In , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Umesh JI > > > > I was seeing horoscope charts provided by you in foto section & > > > reading > > > > your views at the topic which was raised by Kulbir Ji as-- " PEHLE > > > GHARON > > > > MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON > > > > MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE > > KE > > > > GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI > > MEIN > > > > DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA > > YA > > > > BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL > > KE > > > > MUTABIK FAISLA DENGE.. > > > > But umesh ji the technique used by u to find out the > > Planet > > > OF > > > > DHOKA, that implies only the horoscope which is provided by > > > you.Why u > > > > forgot to use the kundali which has been used at last of 1942 > > > edition ? > > > > iN that edition the technique used by you to search Dhokhe ka > > > > planet,absolutely fails ,The planet of cheating is VENUS in that > > > > horoscope (Yograj ji & Nirmal ji please correct me with the > > help > > > of > > > > 1942 book).If we use only verdicts of u then what will be planet > > of > > > > DHOKHA . I think u used SOORAJ NUMBER 11 or 12 INDEXES to find > > > out the > > > > planet of DHOKHA.If so then i want to say that serial (TARTEEB) > > of > > > the > > > > planets deffers in both indexes, due to this ,using ur > > technique > > > there > > > > will be confusion to find out " DHOKE KA PLANET " in 48 th & 52 nd > > > year of > > > > varshfal So what u say about that with ur deep insight.In fact > > as > > > per > > > > using of Varshfal & janm kundali for faisle ki kundali, that is > > so > > > > simple as u explained & it is much obvious by that example of > > the > > > book > > > > 1942 at page no. 384. > > > > With regards > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > <mudit982001@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer, > > > > > I am trying to analysis of these lines with examples which are > > > you > > > > > queted in your message.I load two photographs in photo section > > in > > > > > name of kundli no.1 & 2, and faisle ki kundlee. > > > > > Example: 14-04-1955 Time:-23:55, Place: jullunder. > > > > > TERM NO.1 : PEHLE GHARON MEIN VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE > > > > > QU: WHICH PLANET/PLANETS > > > > > ANS:THOSE COME IN PHALEY GHARON (FROM 1ST TO 6TH CALLED PAHLEY > > > GHAR > > > > > AND 7TH TO 12EV CALLED BAAD KE GHAR)SO “SUN, > MARS,MERC.,JUPI > > > > AND > > > > > KETU†& #65533; COME IN “ PAHLE GHARON MEIN†& #65533; IN > VARSHAPHAL > > > > KUNDLEE. WE NOTE > > > > > DOWN THESE IN FAISLEY KI KUNDLI. > > > > > 2ND TERM: BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM KUNDALI KE GRAH LIKHE > > JAYENGE > > > > > ANS: JUPI.+KETU & SATURN BAAD KE GHARON MAIN IN JANAM KI > > KUNDLEE. > > > (I > > > > > CLEARED BAAD KE GHAR MY ABOVE LINES.)IT IS ALSO NOTED IN > > FAISLE > > > KI > > > > > KUNDLI > > > > > 3. IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE. > > > > > ANS: IN THIS JANAM KUNDLEE “SUN†& #65533; COMES AS A > > > > “DHOKEY KA GRAH†& #65533; IN 53’S > > > > > VARSHAPHAL.(HOW TO FIND DHOKE KA GRAH READ MY BOOK " LALKITAB- > > > VYAKARAN > > > > > AUR VYAKHYA OR VYAKARAN SECTION OF LAL-KITAB 1952 EDITION) > > > > > YOU SEE PHOTOS OF EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION. > > > > > TERM NO.3: :JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA JAYE WAH APNA > > > FAISLA > > > > > IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA FAISLA DENGE > > > > > ANS: AS PER ABOVE TERM THE JUPITER, KETU AND SUN ARE THE KEY > > > PLANETS. > > > > > BECAUSE THOSE ARE COME TWO TIMES. > > > > > DO NOT COUNT MARS AND MERC. IN FESLAY KI KUNDLEE BECAUSE BOTH > > > PLANTS > > > > > COME IN THEIR OWN HOUSES WHERE THEY SITITUTED IN JANAM KI > > > KUNDLEE. > > > > > I TRY WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. > > > > > I HEARTLY OBLIZED IF SENIORS ARE GIVE THEIR OPINION. > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > UMESH SHARMA > > > > > ( YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE KUNDLI IN PHOTO SECTION.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bains kulbirbains@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera friends, what i have concluded that lalkitab is very > > much > > > > > like the english language. like u cannot questionh why knilfe > > > has a k > > > > > as prefix and pneumonia has a p as prefix lk has similar > > > principles > > > > > which cannot be argued upon. for instance in the 42 edition > > pt. > > > ji > > > > > gave elaborate explanations to analyse a tewa and also > > analyzed > > > a few > > > > > tewas in the end. but there lies a bomb shell in the one tewa > > > which > > > > > unfortunately does not appear in the dalda books. in this tewa > > > pt. ji > > > > > stressed for analyzing varshphal remedies THAT PEHLE GHARON > > MEIN > > > > > VARSHPHAL KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR BAAD KE GHARON MEIN JANAM > > > KUNDALI > > > > > KE GRAH LIKHE JAYENGE AUR IS KE 10 MEIN DOKHE KE GRAH LIKHE > > > JAYENGE. > > > > > NATIJE PAR FAISLA HOGA. JO GRAH IS KUNDALI MEIN DO DAFA AA > > JAYE > > > WAH > > > > > APNA FAISLA IS NAYI KUNDALI KE MUTABIK ACHA YA BURA KISMAT KA > > > FAISLA > > > > > DENGE. IS TARKIB SE NA AVEN WAH VARSHPHAL KE MUTABIK FAISLA > > > DENGE. > > > > > here i ask for help from Prabhakar ji and nirmal ji who > > > enlightened > > > > > me with this technique perhaps > > > > > > umesh, bhatia ji and lalkitabi also know more about this > > > technique. > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here?s a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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