Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Respected Bhatia SahibAs I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these two title pages.Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And the word "Darustee Shudah" is also mentioned on both the titles. But on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: "Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore". I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this matter to help solving this puzzle. RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Yograj ji Adaab The buyer must have bought the book from Ashraf Book Depot where as the publishers of the book are Hijazi Press Regards Yours astro studentYograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: Respected Bhatia SahibAs I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these two title pages. Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And the word "Darustee Shudah" is also mentioned on both the titles. But on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: "Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore". I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this matter to help solving this puzzle. RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 MohtaramaIn some cases, the Book sellers put their rubber stamps on the books, but I am talking about the name of a Book Depot "printed" on the book, and that is entirely a difference case. Anyways, Welcome back to Astrostudents after a long gap.RespectfullyYograj PrabhakarLaiba Khan <worthseeing2003 wrote: Yograj ji Adaab The buyer must have bought the book from Ashraf Book Depot where as the publishers of the book are Hijazi Press Regards Yours astro studentYograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar > wrote: Respected Bhatia SahibAs I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these two title pages. Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And the word "Darustee Shudah" is also mentioned on both the titles. But on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: "Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore". I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this matter to help solving this puzzle. RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Yograj Jee, We may have hit a goldmine. While writing this Email, I consulted both the 1942 Lalkitabs that I have. I saw an additional difference in line 1 of the guzarish page, which I have described below. I am in a hurry and thus can't re-write this EMail but please bear with me. -------------------- I have two 1942 lalkitabs. I am convinced that one of these is a reprint. For reference, I will call one of the editions as the "original" and the other a "reprint." 1. The title page of the "original" has a full line showing the price of the book as Rs. Four and Two Annas. The print of this book looks much crisp and bright. It has Pt Girdhari Lal jee's picture in blue and the rangon kA asar hatheli par picture in color. These pictures are given in the begining of the book. The last page is a notification that a 'correction slip' may be had from Calcutta Photo House, Hall Bazar, Amritsar and, an advertisement about Pt Ram Saran Das making it a 385 page book. 2. In the "reprint" version, both the pictures are in black and white and at the end of the book. As you noted - on the title page, the line indicating the price has been replaced by "Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore." The line looks crisper than the rest of the page. The reprint looks somewhat "tired" and not very crisp (that is why I call it a reprint - the 'farmaa' (printing block) looks worn. This book has 384 pages - the advertisement and the notification about 'correction slip' is missing. Actually the last two pages are the pictures as described above. HOWEVER, in the reprint version I just now noticed a change on the 'guzarish' page line 1 -- is tarah se kundali poori kar ke jab banwaa gayaa' - this is written slightly differently in the reprint edition. The last two words are not fully legible but definitely seem to be different than the original. Is your reprint legible? Please let me know. Maybe the corrections are already applied in this version. I will try to compare the two editions but this can be a very time consuming process. Nevertheless, the 1942 edition explains many LalKitab grammar issues better than even the '52 edition. If our readers are interested, I'd be glad to scan both the titles and post them. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: Respected Bhatia SahibAs I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these two title pages. Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And the word "Darustee Shudah" is also mentioned on both the titles. But on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: "Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore". I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this matter to help solving this puzzle. RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Respected Bhatia ji & Prabhakar Ji, Indeed it is a goldmine.It seems that this book was reprinted three times. 1. First edition in which some printed errors were there and in which a declaration is made to obtain drustinama from 'Calcutta Photo House'. 2. In Second Edition all the printing errors were set right and got incorporated and was salable edition. 3. Third Edition was got printed for Private Circulation and was distributed free of cost by Pandit ji to Lalkitab Aspirants that is why no cost was mentioned on it. I have read 1942 edition also and you have rightly said that 1942 edition is more elaborate and simpler than 1952 book. Since we have very limited access to these different editions, I request you to kindly enlighten us more on this issue. Best Regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: > > > Yograj Jee, > We may have hit a goldmine. While writing this Email, I consulted both the 1942 Lalkitabs that I have. I saw an additional difference in line 1 of the guzarish page, which I have described below. I am in a hurry and thus can't re-write this EMail but please bear with me. > -------------------- > I have two 1942 lalkitabs. I am convinced that one of these is a reprint. For reference, I will call one of the editions as the " original " and the other a " reprint. " > > 1. The title page of the " original " has a full line showing the price of the book as Rs. Four and Two Annas. The print of this book looks much crisp and bright. It has Pt Girdhari Lal jee's picture in blue and the rangon kA asar hatheli par picture in color. These pictures are given in the begining of the book. The last page is a notification that a 'correction slip' may be had from Calcutta Photo House, Hall Bazar, Amritsar and, an advertisement about Pt Ram Saran Das making it a 385 page book. > > 2. In the " reprint " version, both the pictures are in black and white and at the end of the book. As you noted - on the title page, the line indicating the price has been replaced by " Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore. " The line looks crisper than the rest of the page. The reprint looks somewhat " tired " and not very crisp (that is why I call it a reprint - the 'farmaa' (printing block) looks worn. This book has 384 pages - the advertisement and the notification about 'correction slip' is missing. Actually the last two pages are the pictures as described above. > > HOWEVER, in the reprint version I just now noticed a change on the 'guzarish' page line 1 -- is tarah se kundali poori kar ke jab banwaa gayaa' - this is written slightly differently in the reprint edition. The last two words are not fully legible but definitely seem to be different than the original. Is your reprint legible? Please let me know. Maybe the corrections are already applied in this version. I will try to compare the two editions but this can be a very time consuming process. > > Nevertheless, the 1942 edition explains many LalKitab grammar issues better than even the '52 edition. > > If our readers are interested, I'd be glad to scan both the titles and post them. > > Respectfully, > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: > Respected Bhatia Sahib > > As I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these two title pages. > > Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And the word " Darustee Shudah " is also mentioned on both the titles. But on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: " Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore " . > > > I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this matter to help solving this puzzle. > > Respectfully > Yograj Prabhakar > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Nirmal Jee, Thanks for reminding me that the books which do not show any price were given out for free to those whom Pt jee thought worthy of it. From your Email, it is encouraging to know that one of my 1942 books may already be error free. I don't know if I can verify that. Which edition do you have? Is this the one on the net? Did you put the title page on the net also? That may give a clue. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj " <nirbhar wrote: > > Respected Bhatia ji & Prabhakar Ji, > Indeed it is a goldmine.It seems that this book was reprinted three > times. > 1. First edition in which some printed errors were there and in which > a declaration is made to obtain drustinama from 'Calcutta Photo > House'. > 2. In Second Edition all the printing errors were set right and got > incorporated and was salable edition. > 3. Third Edition was got printed for Private Circulation and was > distributed free of cost by Pandit ji to Lalkitab Aspirants that is > why no cost was mentioned on it. > I have read 1942 edition also and you have rightly said that 1942 > edition is more elaborate and simpler than 1952 book. > Since we have very limited access to these different editions, I > request you to kindly enlighten us more on this issue. > Best Regards > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > , Rajinder Bhatia > <rajinderbhatia2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Yograj Jee, > > We may have hit a goldmine. While writing this Email, I consulted > both the 1942 Lalkitabs that I have. I saw an additional difference > in line 1 of the guzarish page, which I have described below. I am > in a hurry and thus can't re-write this EMail but please bear with me. > > -------------------- > > I have two 1942 lalkitabs. I am convinced that one of these is a > reprint. For reference, I will call one of the editions as the > " original " and the other a " reprint. " > > > > 1. The title page of the " original " has a full line showing the > price of the book as Rs. Four and Two Annas. The print of this book > looks much crisp and bright. It has Pt Girdhari Lal jee's picture in > blue and the rangon kA asar hatheli par picture in color. These > pictures are given in the begining of the book. The last page is a > notification that a 'correction slip' may be had from Calcutta Photo > House, Hall Bazar, Amritsar and, an advertisement about Pt Ram Saran > Das making it a 385 page book. > > > > 2. In the " reprint " version, both the pictures are in black and > white and at the end of the book. As you noted - on the title page, > the line indicating the price has been replaced by " Ashraf Book > Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore. " The line looks crisper than the rest > of the page. The reprint looks somewhat " tired " and not very crisp > (that is why I call it a reprint - the 'farmaa' (printing block) > looks worn. This book has 384 pages - the advertisement and the > notification about 'correction slip' is missing. Actually the last > two pages are the pictures as described above. > > > > HOWEVER, in the reprint version I just now noticed a change on > the 'guzarish' page line 1 -- is tarah se kundali poori kar ke jab > banwaa gayaa' - this is written slightly differently in the reprint > edition. The last two words are not fully legible but definitely seem > to be different than the original. Is your reprint legible? Please > let me know. Maybe the corrections are already applied in this > version. I will try to compare the two editions but this can be a > very time consuming process. > > > > Nevertheless, the 1942 edition explains many LalKitab grammar > issues better than even the '52 edition. > > > > If our readers are interested, I'd be glad to scan both the > titles and post them. > > > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@> wrote: > > Respected Bhatia Sahib > > > > As I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 edition > of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I > suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these > two title pages. > > > > Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, And > the word " Darustee Shudah " is also mentioned on both the titles. But > on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and Two > Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, > instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: > " Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore " . > > > > > > I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition > before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on this > matter to help solving this puzzle. > > > > Respectfully > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > what's on, when. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Respected Bhatia Ji, I have the same book which is uploaded on the net.Please oblige me to put the title of the books, you have, in the group. I request Prabhakar Ji also to put the title they have on the net. Let all the members have darshan of these 'durlabh'Titles. I have a opinion that any body who have any one of the original book shall make it possible to upload the scanned copy of the title of that book in the group. Perhaps this will bring more of the history of books Best Regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , " Rajinder Bhatia " <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: > > > Nirmal Jee, > Thanks for reminding me that the books which do not show any price > were given out for free to those whom Pt jee thought worthy of it. > From your Email, it is encouraging to know that one of my 1942 books > may already be error free. I don't know if I can verify that. > > Which edition do you have? Is this the one on the net? Did you put > the title page on the net also? That may give a clue. > > Respectfully, > Rajinder Bhatia > > , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj " > <nirbhar@> wrote: > > > > Respected Bhatia ji & Prabhakar Ji, > > Indeed it is a goldmine.It seems that this book was reprinted three > > times. > > 1. First edition in which some printed errors were there and in > which > > a declaration is made to obtain drustinama from 'Calcutta Photo > > House'. > > 2. In Second Edition all the printing errors were set right and got > > incorporated and was salable edition. > > 3. Third Edition was got printed for Private Circulation and was > > distributed free of cost by Pandit ji to Lalkitab Aspirants that is > > why no cost was mentioned on it. > > I have read 1942 edition also and you have rightly said that 1942 > > edition is more elaborate and simpler than 1952 book. > > Since we have very limited access to these different editions, I > > request you to kindly enlighten us more on this issue. > > Best Regards > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > , Rajinder Bhatia > > <rajinderbhatia2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yograj Jee, > > > We may have hit a goldmine. While writing this Email, I > consulted > > both the 1942 Lalkitabs that I have. I saw an additional difference > > in line 1 of the guzarish page, which I have described below. I am > > in a hurry and thus can't re-write this EMail but please bear with > me. > > > -------------------- > > > I have two 1942 lalkitabs. I am convinced that one of these is > a > > reprint. For reference, I will call one of the editions as the > > " original " and the other a " reprint. " > > > > > > 1. The title page of the " original " has a full line showing > the > > price of the book as Rs. Four and Two Annas. The print of this > book > > looks much crisp and bright. It has Pt Girdhari Lal jee's picture > in > > blue and the rangon kA asar hatheli par picture in color. These > > pictures are given in the begining of the book. The last page is a > > notification that a 'correction slip' may be had from Calcutta > Photo > > House, Hall Bazar, Amritsar and, an advertisement about Pt Ram > Saran > > Das making it a 385 page book. > > > > > > 2. In the " reprint " version, both the pictures are in black > and > > white and at the end of the book. As you noted - on the title page, > > the line indicating the price has been replaced by " Ashraf Book > > Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore. " The line looks crisper than the > rest > > of the page. The reprint looks somewhat " tired " and not very crisp > > (that is why I call it a reprint - the 'farmaa' (printing block) > > looks worn. This book has 384 pages - the advertisement and the > > notification about 'correction slip' is missing. Actually the last > > two pages are the pictures as described above. > > > > > > HOWEVER, in the reprint version I just now noticed a change on > > the 'guzarish' page line 1 -- is tarah se kundali poori kar ke jab > > banwaa gayaa' - this is written slightly differently in the reprint > > edition. The last two words are not fully legible but definitely > seem > > to be different than the original. Is your reprint legible? Please > > let me know. Maybe the corrections are already applied in this > > version. I will try to compare the two editions but this can be a > > very time consuming process. > > > > > > Nevertheless, the 1942 edition explains many LalKitab grammar > > issues better than even the '52 edition. > > > > > > If our readers are interested, I'd be glad to scan both the > > titles and post them. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@> wrote: > > > Respected Bhatia Sahib > > > > > > As I informed you earlier that I have 2 copies of the 1942 > edition > > of Lal Kitab, last evening (while comparing these two titles) I > > suddenly found that there is a very interesting difference in these > > two title pages. > > > > > > Although Both books are published from Hajazee Press Lahore, > And > > the word " Darustee Shudah " is also mentioned on both the titles. > But > > on one of the title, its price is mentioned as Rupees Four and > Two > > Annas. whereas there is no mention of price on the other one, > > instead of price, an additional bookseller's name is mentioned: > > " Ashraf Book Depot, Naulakha Bazar, Lahore " . > > > > > > > > > I never heard regarding two different editions of 1942 edition > > before, I requested your goodself to kindly throw some light on > this > > matter to help solving this puzzle. > > > > > > Respectfully > > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > > what's on, when. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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