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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:24:25 -0000Fwd: pichhali andheri kothari/ shani no.3 / Thakur saheb , " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote: Respected Thakur saheb & Raheja ji, This is just an effort [ and not a verdict ] to explain the lines: shani khana 9 ko 3 se dushman grah dekhtaa ho aur udhar makan ki

andhere ki pichhali deewar tod kar roshni ho jave - to khulne ke pahale saal pichhali tarf ke makan mein se naye nikale darwaje ya taki ki taraf se teesara makan barbad aur tabah hoga phir teesare saal naye darwaje nikaalne wala ghar be-aabad hoga.

Analysis step one : given facts [ 1 ] Thakur saheb has very rightly said that any opening for the sun light into a dark kothari will bring the Sun and the Saturn into conflict. [ 2 ] I have already said that the rear house/ kothari will be

khana# 6 Analysis step two : inference [ a ] A saturn which is already under duress through the aspect of an enemy planet from the 3rd could get billegerent after the intrusion of the Sun into it's domain [ andheri kothari]. The Saturn could get

hostile. [ b ] Since the khana #6 is already under the aspect of the Saturn from the 9th, the effect of the Saturn turned hostile would get carried to this house also.* Analysis step three : examining the statements

[ A ] to khulne ke pahale saal pichhali tarf ke makan mein se naye nikale darwaje ya taki ki taraf se teesara makan barbad aur tabah hoga. If the door / window is opened towards khana # 7 then the third house

will be khana # 9. This third house will get 'tabah aur barbad' because the Saturn itself is placed there. If the door/window is opened towards khana # 5 then the third house will be khana # 3 which is already occupied by an enemy of Saturn and is

also under the aspect of the Saturn. The house once again will get 'tabaah aur barbad'.* [ B ] phir teesare saal naye darwaje nikaalne wala ghar be-aabad hoga. Since the influence of Saturn lasts in a sign for two and a half

year. Therefore it would take two and a half year for the effects of Saturn to be completed. It appears that Pandit ji rounded it off to three years. It is within these three years even the house where an opening for

the sun was made would face the impact of the saturn.* Analysis step four : Unresolved question Why do the neibhouring third houses get ' barbaad' within the first year of the opening and why it takes the house where an opening is

made three years to get 'be-aabad' Further enquiry needed to find an answer to the above question. * I have used the Vedic aspect system in the portions marked with an asterisk [*]. I believe that the Lal Kitab does make use of the

traditional vedic aspects also. With regards, Varun Trivedi , " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

<thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote: > > Bhai Girish, > Jo mujhey pata thaa vo mainey bata diya. abb aap log bhee socho main bhee > sochta hoon. Kuchh na kuchh to baba jee kripa karengey.

> Aapka > Iqbal Chand Thakur > > On 3/24/08, girish_raheja girish_raheja@ wrote: > > > > Sir ji, > > > > jab aap Bains ji ke sawal ka uttar den to kripa kar ke yah bhi

> > spashtha kar den ki shani 9 ke waqt pichhili deewar mein roshni > > karne se agal bagal ka teesara makan kyo prabhavit hoga, sath hi yah > > bhi ki teen sal ke bhitar vah makan jismein roshni ki gayee hai

vah > > bhi barbad ho jayega.sincerely > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > <%

40.co\ m>, > > " kulbirbance " > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > janab; > > > shani no 9 ko no 3 se dushman grah dekhta ho aur udhar MAKKAN

> > > ANDHERE ki pichli diwar tod kar roshani ho jave- to khulne ke > > pehle > > > 7 saal pichli taraf ke makan me se naye nikle darwaze ya taki se > > > teesra makan barbad aur tabah hoga, phir teesre saal naye

darwaze > > > nikalane wala ghar beabad hoga. page 160. > > > 1. shani 3 mein shani 9 ke bare kyon likha yeh baat asulan shani 9 > > > mein likhi jani chaiye thi. > > > 2. iske peeche logic kya hai.

> > > kulbirbance > > > <% 40.co\ m>, > > " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

> > > <thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhayi Varun, > > > > Aapka kehna bilkul darust hai. Chalo hum is ko doosray tareeqey > > se

> > > dekhen > > > > gey > > > > Sabse pehley dekhein > > > > " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve " - Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar > > > sooraj 6 ven

> > > > ho teve mein " to upaya kee zaroorat padegi > > > > abb dekhen > > > > na pichhali deewar phate > > > > Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar us teve waaley ke ghar

mein > > > koyi andheri > > > > kothri ho to shani qayam mana jayega aur shani 12 kaa poora phal > > > milega. > > > > aur agar roshni ke liye uski deewar mein khidki yaa koyi aour

> > > tariqa apnaya > > > > jaaye > > > > to is upaya kee zaroorat padegi kyonki ab shani 12 ke asar ke > > liye > > > yeh > > > > zaroori ho zaayega kee usey 12vein khaaney kee disha mein

> > badamon > > > kaa > > > > upaya karvaya jaayega. > > > > > > > > main jo samajhta hoon vo bataaney kee koshish kee hai. Baaqi aap > > > aagay

> > > > charchaa karen > > > > Aapka > > > > Iqbal Chand Thakur > > > > > > > > On 3/22/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Adarneeya Thakur sahib, > > > > > > > > > > Quoting from the Book : > > > > > > > > > > " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve, na pichhali deewar phate "

> > > > > > > > > > " jab tak sooraj # 6 mein na ho, koi upaya zaroori nahi " > > > > > > > > > > Ab aap hi khud khana 6 ka ?.. > > > > >

> > > > > " pichhali andheri kothari jo makan mein dakhil hote waqt > > daanye > > > > > haath ki taraf ki syah pori hoti hai akhir par " [ quoted from > > the

> > > > > book] > > > > > > > > > > ??se kaise sambandh banta hai vichar kar dekhen. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > <%

40.co\ m> > > <% > > > 40>, > > > > > " Iqbal Chand Thakur " > > > > > <thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Varun > > > > > > Holi kee Mubarqaq baad ho aap sabhi ko. > > > > > > Aap kee koshish bahut acchhi > > > > > > hai. Mere vichar se lalkitab ke upyon kaa logic samajhna

bada > > > > > mushkil > > > > > > hai. Per dimaag chalta rahe in cheezon per to achha rehta > > hai. > > > > > > Koyi aur logic bhee hona chaiye Jara sochna padega.

> > > > > > Bhayee Agar makaan kee baat karein to khana no 8 aur 6 mein > > do > > > > > dishayoon kaa > > > > > > faraq Dono ek dooje ke ulat hain. Yaani aap ke kahey

mutabaq > > > > > bayaan aur daayan. > > > > > > hai. Kulbir bhayi ne makaan kundli batayee thee kaheen kisi > > > group > > > > > mein > > > > > > wo sahi sahi samjha saktey hain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > mere samajh ke mutabaq logic ban nahin raha.kyon ki khana no > > 6 > > > > > shumali hissa > > > > > > hota hai. aur sooraj mashraq se chadhta hai.abb shumal

kee > > > khidki > > > > > se suuraj > > > > > > kee dhoop ander nahin aa sakti. Haan Dakhan kee khidki se aa > > > > > sakti. Vo bhee > > > > > > garam tapaaney waali baad dupehar kee.

> > > > > > Mere khyaal mein andheri kothdii shaniqayam kee cheez hai, > > Abb > > > > > Shani Khana > > > > > > no 12 mein hai. Ab jab > > > > > > bhee kayam shani ko suraj chedega to takrav hovega hee.

> > > > > > Baaqi aur mahanubhav bhee hai vo apni raye de is masley per. > > > > > > Bhayi bura mat manaana aapki baat kaati hai. > > > > > > Aapka > > > > > > Iqbal Chand Thakur

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Girish ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every upaya , instruction or suggestion given in the Lal > > > Kitab > > > > > has an > > > > > > > astrological logic behind it. It is for us the

> > practitioners > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lal Kitab to decipher that reason or logic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This suggestion is invariably given in the context of

> > Saturn > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 12th house. If some one has his Saturn in the 12th house > > > then he > > > > > > > should not get a window or ventilator opened into the

room > > > which > > > > > is on > > > > > > > the right hand side and at the end of the house as one > > > enters the > > > > > > > house. Especially the window or the ventilator should

not > > be > > > > > such that > > > > > > > the sun light enters the room directly. The same > > instruction > > > is > > > > > also

> > > > > > > given about the rear wall on the west 'pashchimi pichhali > > > deewar' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let us understand the Logic behind this suggestion.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As one enters the house, the right hand rear end of the > > > house is > > > > > the > > > > > > > khana # 6 and the left hand rear of the house is khana

# > > 8. > > > You > > > > > will > > > > > > > understand it better if you imagine that you are entering > > the > > > > > Kundali

> > > > > > > from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna is > > > considered > > > > > > > East, the 7th house is considered the West. > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now if a window or ventilator is opened such that the > > > sunlight > > > > > enters > > > > > > > directly into the area will mean establishing the Sun

in > > that > > > > > area. > > > > > > > Therefore if the window/ ventilator is in the kothari on > > the > > > > > right it > > > > > > > will mean that the Sun has been got established in the

6th > > > > > house, if > > > > > > > it is the kothari on the left then it would mean > > establishing > > > > > the Sun > > > > > > > in the 8th house and if it is the Western wall then it

> > would > > > > > mean the > > > > > > > 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what will happen to the Saturn in the 12th ? How

will > > the > > > > > saturn > > > > > > > be affected by this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be under the aspect of the sun from the 6th .

Will > > > get > > > > > > > associated with the Sun of the 8th ; and in conflict [ > > > takrav ] > > > > > from > > > > > > > the 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in order to avoid this uncomfortable situation > > the > > > > > > > suggestion has been made.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <% 40.co\ m> > > <%

> > > 40> > > > > > <% > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > " girish_raheja " > > > > > > > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab suggests that the last room at the end of > > the > > > > > house > > > > > > > > should be kept dark; there should be no ventilator

for > > the > > > > > light to > > > > > > > > enter. > > > > > > > > Sir is this just a convention or there is some logical > > > reason

> > > > > behind > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Faithfully, > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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