Directions and lalkitab- Ambiguity /conclusion

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Nirmal ji; that was brilliantly summed up, directions is a relative

subject to the observer's position. so the first step is to confirm

the observer's position.

i had this much concept very clear in my mind but couldn't find a

concreate step as how to apply it.

now as you have explained it in terms/assosiation with with khanna

no.9. the whole picture gets clear.

now the term buniyaad gets a wider notion and so does my

understanding.

yoy are right there is no ambiguity in the system of Lalkitab,but

it is ambiguity in our way of understanding the system.

now after your explnation it appears to be a simple concept but i

don't think i could have reached here all by myself.

 

thanks for sharing.

kulbirbance

 

 

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Dear Kalsi Ji,

> Kulbir Ji, has given the partial answer in his reply. Your

contention

> that every object has a direction is right to the extent if you

> consider it from ones own angle. I you and every one can point out

> the direction of all the items around except himself. This is the

> secret where Lalkitab clears the issue.

> With this excercise,Every one fails to identify his own direction.

> Neither you no Kulbir ji can give difinite answer regarding one,s

own

> position.

> It is khana No. 9 which gives one own direction i.e. Centre of the

> whole direction system or we can say as reference point.

> As such there is no ambiguity in the system of Lalkitab,but it is

> ambiguity in our way of understanding the system.

> Regards

> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

>

>

> , " Shivdev

> Kalsi " <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nirmal Ji,

> > I have checked all the sides every object has the direction

> allocated. Still

> > my stand is clear.

> > Yours

> > Shiv Dev Kalsi

> >

> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> <nirbhar@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > > A doubt is created in your mind. These type of doubts hamper

the

> further

> > > study of the subject.

> > > Let us do an exercise. Any one can do it.

> > > Stand anywhere in your house,city,place as per your

convenience.

> > > make a list of objects exist

> > > North Direction

> > > South

> > > East

> > > West

> > > NE

> > > NW

> > > SE

> > > SW

> > > & any more detailed direction one can assume.

> > > It may look as a kiddish exercise, Let us do it as it may lead

> to some

> > > solution.

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/30/08, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nirmal Ji,

> > > > It is a universal truth that every being on the earth is

> having a

> > > > direction. No objects exists without

> > > > direction. In Kitab One direction is not given to any khana

> while khana 9 is not given any direction.

> > > > Is it not an ambiguity.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Shiv Dev Kalsi

> > > > On 3/27/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > > > > I dont think any one of the addressees thinks that he is

> fully

> > > > > mastered the

> > > > > Lalkitab. It is a great Book. It is not written by an

> ordinary person.

> > > > > I ensure you that each and every point regarding the

> lalkitab shall

> > > > > discussed in detail.

> > > > > Please Give your point of view where do you feel that

there

> is

> > > > > ambiguity in lalkitab. How do you feel that directions are

> not defined in

> > > > > lalkitab.

> > > > > Please try tbe elaborative in the issue.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/27/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kalsi ji; this opinion or research cannot be

recommended

> in hurry.

> > > > > > at least i will have to check the whole book. commenting

> upon ambiguity in

> > > > > > lalkitab is a serious matter and needs a thourough

> analysis before

> > > > > > commenting.

> > > > > > i need some time. we have not yet decoded the basis of

> varshphal.

> > > > > > don't we admit it as it is because we don't have any

> logic. do we have any

> > > > > > logic as to on what basis and logics pt ji assigned

> directions in a makkan

> > > > > > kundli. don't we acept it as such. why do we accept

house

> no. 1 as lagna?

> > > > > > because it is written as such in the book.

> > > > > > we accept darvesh as karkattwa of ketu. why?

> > > > > > we accept house no 8 aspects 2 but 2 doesn't aspect 8

why?

> > > > > > only sun and moon in house no 9 aspect house no 5.

> > > > > > budh in 11 inauspicious till 34 years does shashtri

> jyotish takes it

> > > > > > so, then why do we?

> > > > > > ambiguity is a very serious word and puts the whole

system/

> book

> > > > > > under suspicion.

> > > > > > 2+2 are not always 4 in this system because it has a

> philosphy of it

> > > > > > own.

> > > > > > *but i further ur request by adding that silence will

> amount to

> > > > > > acceptance. therefore senior members should object

> expressly or their

> > > > > > silence will be interpretted as acceptance.*

> > > > > > lalkitab is above all personal liasions or differences.

> hence one

> > > > > > should give his opinion openly and freely.

> > > > > > i shall definitely send in mine once i go through the

book

> and

> > > > > > consult my gurus of lalkitab.

> > > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 3/26/08, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar Ji, Bhatia Ji, Nirmal Ji ,

kulbir

> ji Thakur

> > > > > > > Ji, Khattar Ji, Kondal Ji , Shukla Ji and all senior

> members,

> > > > > > > This group is claimed to be doing research oriented

> studies

> > > > > > > lalkitab with the backing of so many others including

> all of above. Another

> > > > > > > group doing discussion in Lalkitab ' Namely " lalkitab

> Discussion group " has

> > > > > > > found an ambiguity in lalkitab and claimed that the

> general directions are

> > > > > > > different other than makan Kundli. Their invention

seems

> to be

> > > > > > > genuine.This is a path breaking

> > > > > > > research. Hence Your

> > > > > > > reccomendation are necessary in this regard as you are

> the senior most members of this system

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > > > > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > > > > > > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > > > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

> >

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