Ambiguity in lalkitab System/thakur ji

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Thakur ji, darust farmaya ; jab khud hi urdu nahin aati to doosron

par tarjama thik na karne ka ilzam lagana sarasar galat hai.

thanks for this invaluable piece of advice.

kulbirbance

 

, " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

<thakur.iqbalchand wrote:

>

> Bhai Kulbir,

> Main Jo ab taq samjha hoon usi ko madhe nazar rakh kar baat karta

> hoon. Bhai Jab taq aab sabhi kitabon koo ek bar padh nahin letey

tab

> taq is kee bariqiyon per gaur karna bahut mushkil hoga. Ab aap log

har

> baat ka logic lagana chahtey ho aur voh bhee kitabon ke padhey

bagair.

> Jis

> trah se aap aksa lshzon ke mayney poochhatey hain us hisab se

> Mere khyal hai ki apbhi taq aap ney poori kitabein nahin padhi

hain.

> Doosri baat abhi taq shayad puraney khiladiyon mein se shayad aap

hee

> baqi reh gaye ho jin ko urdu zubaan se nafrat hai. Bhai aap hum

urdu

> kee lal kitab ko padhney waaley

> logon ko to urdu naveez keh ker mazaaq udaatey ho,aur khud chhotey

> chhotey lafzon ke liye kabhi idha kabhi udhar bhaagtey firtey ho.

> Bhai muaff karna kuchhh talkhi se likh raha hoon. Umer mein bada

> hoon(aap ki janam ke tareekh group kee mail mein dekhi thee) is

liye mein

> is talkhi kee himaqat karney ka gunahgaar ban raha hoon.

> Jatt to Lokaanko Dene Wala Hunda hai, Mangan Wala Nahin,

> Apna aadhey se jyada keemti time to aap lafzon ke matlab

doondney,sahi yaa

> galat poochhney mein hee gaal detey ho, Bhai Urdu seekho aur urdu

kee asli

> kitabein padha karo, fir dekho yeh kulbir kahaan pahunch jayega.

Baaqi aap

> ki marji.

> Aapka apna

> Iqbal Chand Thakur

>

>

>

> On 3/30/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:

> >

> > thakur ji; it is an overstatement; had it come from someone who

has

> > understood all the concepts by this method, would have been

welcome but i am

> > sorry to say that it doesn't befits somone who stumbles at the

basics. have

> > you yourself read and understood all the volumes. what's the

problem if

> > someone is keen to understand the principles. aap phir se dooron

ko chakkar

> > mein na padne ki nasiyat dene lage; kya aap chakkar se bahar aa

gaye. bhai

> > ji nasiyaton se pehle kuch to batao; aap ne kya samjha.

> > sincerely

> > kulbirbance

> >

> >

> > On 3/30/08, Iqbal Chand Thakur <thakur.iqbalchand wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhai Kalsi Sahib,

> > > Kis chakkar mein pad gaye ho. Lalkitab Padhtey jao sab kuchh

saaf hota

> > > jayega. Aisi cheezein aapka dhyaan pedhney se door hataayengi,

jo nuqsaandeh

> > > hai. Jab aap paanchon kitabein ek bar padh logey to sabh giley

shikivey door ho jaayenge. Yo sabhi jo ultay fultay swaal khadey ho

rahey hain sabhi kaa jawaab kitaab de degi. baaqi aapki marzi hai,

iss chakker mein jitna padogey ulajhatey jaaogey.

> > > aapka

> > > Iqbal Chand Thakur

> > >

> > > On 3/30/08, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nirmal Ji,

> > > > It is a universal truth that every being on the earth is

having a

> > > > direction. No objects exists without

> > > > direction. In Kitab One direction is not given to any khana

while khana 9 is not given any direction.

> > > > Is it not an ambiguity.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Shiv Dev Kalsi

> > > > On 3/27/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > > > > I dont think any one of the addressees thinks that he is

fully

> > > > > mastered the

> > > > > Lalkitab. It is a great Book. It is not written by an

ordinary person.

> > > > > I ensure you that each and every point regarding the

lalkitab shall

> > > > > discussed in detail.

> > > > > Please Give your point of view where do you feel that

there is

> > > > > ambiguity in lalkitab. How do you feel that directions are

not defined in

> > > > > lalkitab.

> > > > > Please try tbe elaborative in the issue.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/27/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kalsi ji; this opinion or research cannot be recommended

in hurry.

> > > > > > at least i will have to check the whole book. commenting

upon ambiguity in

> > > > > > lalkitab is a serious matter and needs a thourough

analysis before

> > > > > > commenting.

> > > > > > i need some time. we have not yet decoded the basis of

varshphal.

> > > > > > don't we admit it as it is because we don't have any

logic. do we have any

> > > > > > logic as to on what basis and logics pt ji assigned

directions in a makkan

> > > > > > kundli. don't we acept it as such. why do we accept

house no. 1 as lagna?

> > > > > > because it is written as such in the book.

> > > > > > we accept darvesh as karkattwa of ketu. why?

> > > > > > we accept house no 8 aspects 2 but 2 doesn't aspect 8

why?

> > > > > > only sun and moon in house no 9 aspect house no 5.

> > > > > > budh in 11 inauspicious till 34 years does shashtri

jyotish takes

> > > > > > it so, then why do we?

> > > > > > ambiguity is a very serious word and puts the whole

system/book

> > > > > > under suspicion.

> > > > > > 2+2 are not always 4 in this system because it has a

philosphy of

> > > > > > it own.

> > > > > > *but i further ur request by adding that silence will

amount to

> > > > > > acceptance. therefore senior members should object

expressly or their

> > > > > > silence will be interpretted as acceptance.*

> > > > > > lalkitab is above all personal liasions or differences.

hence one

> > > > > > should give his opinion openly and freely.

> > > > > > i shall definitely send in mine once i go through the

book and

> > > > > > consult my gurus of lalkitab.

> > > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 3/26/08, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar Ji, Bhatia Ji, Nirmal Ji , kulbir

ji Thakur

> > > > > > > Ji, Khattar Ji, Kondal Ji , Shukla Ji and all senior

members,

> > > > > > > This group is claimed to be doing research oriented

studies

> > > > > > > lalkitab with the backing of so many others including

all of above. Another

> > > > > > > group doing discussion in Lalkitab ' Namely " lalkitab

Discussion group " has

> > > > > > > found an ambiguity in lalkitab and claimed that the

general directions are

> > > > > > > different other than makan Kundli. Their invention

seems to be

> > > > > > > genuine.This is a path breaking

> > > > > > > research. Hence Your

> > > > > > > reccomendation are necessary in this regard as you are

the senior most members of this system

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > > > > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > > > > > > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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> > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > > > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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