Be-jod chhalla, Kind attn. Respected Rabinder Bhandari ji.

May 20, 2009

Respected Bhandari Sahib,

Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel ring

for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various astrologers

regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school follower I strongly

believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and that not even

a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is another school of thought

who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .

I request yourself to clarify:

(a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

(b). rationale behind this remedy, and

©. anything else you would like to share.

I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I am

counting on your good-self.

Respectfully

Yograj Prabhakar

May 20, 2009

Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this question.

Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it is must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara). Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky, height of which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury makes Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is reduced (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earth’s (empty space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we can see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara), there is supposed no opening.

Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round or circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL KITAB remedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint, which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process with no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.

The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is: As steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which alters the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet Saturn in 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in 12th house. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with steel ring, should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results expected from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of Kaag rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free, because, rust may add an additional planet in this combination i.e. MARCURY, SATURN AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results.

SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO OPEN ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE KEPT RUST FREE.

With respectful regards…….rabinder bhandari

2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar

Respected Bhandari Sahib,Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various astrologers regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school follower I strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and that not even a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is another school of thought who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .

I request yourself to clarify:(a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring (b). rationale behind this remedy, and ©. anything else you would like to share. I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I am counting on your good-self.

RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar

May 20, 2009

Dated:20-5-09

charan pranaam to all my seniors and pranaam to all my

colleagues, hope all are fine and enjoing the group activities and are seriously engaged in the study of lal kitab and its grammar and providing each other vital information from time to time and when

needed. As our senior Sh.Yograjji has mentioned about the challa ,i totally agree with him on this part that it is fully round in shape and should be made from flawless iron and should be perfect round in shape .and there should not be any other metal joint or even joint of iron also.it should be casted in perfect round shape regularly of cast iron and u will see that if it is suited to the wearer it will remain shining throughout the rest of life

.. one can buy thousands of rings joint less but with cut ,from the market outside temples and gurdwaras or road sides but those are of no use at all.98% people are wearing or are being advised to wear these challas and rest u can understand what will be the result as outcome. answer to this remedy lies in the very basic of lal kitab grammar and it will be revealed to those persons only who want to learn and attain knowledge rather that to make it their tool to impress people or make

money. years back yograji helped me to get such a ring for myself as i was supposed to wear it at that time .its still with me as i mentioned.there are some other things also related with this remedy but again the same thing comes jin khoja tin paya only and only thing to learn lal kitab is to read it again and again,with keeping your thing to learn ,in ur mind and doesent matter if u have to read the whole book to find a single small thing, but this reading will further lead us to many links .this is the beauty of this great lal kitab astrology. so every body should try to find hidden things

in the book rather than to be dependent on some members.no doubt members are always there to help but to those who help themselves. we should not make the habbit of eating cooked food only,if we will try to cook food ourselves, we will come to know that what were the ingredients used and what was the quantity and how they were mixed and what was the cooking time required ,and how it is to be served with and which combinations .if this is done truly ,then ur job is over and it means we have found the right track to understand lal

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Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:33:58 PM Be-jod chhalla, Kind attn. Respected Rabinder Bhandari ji.

Respected Bhandari Sahib,

Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various astrologers regarding the term "Joint-less" . Being the old school follower I strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and that not even a "Tanka" of any metal should be there. But there is another school of thought who "redefined" the term "Joint-less" as "open end".

I request yourself to clarify:

(a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

(b). rationale behind this remedy, and

©. anything else you would like to share.

I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I am counting on your good-self.

Respectfully

Yograj Prabhakar

May 21, 2009

Respected Bhandariji,

Thankyou for such a nice explanation.

Here in Jaipur steel ring are made out of Horse Shoe used by black horse, (which

is soft iron). It does not contain any joint.

These are used when person is going through sade sati.

Is this ring is Okay for mercury in 12th ?.

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951 wrote:

>

> Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this

> question.

>

> Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it is

> must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara).

> Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky, height of

> which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury makes

> Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air

> (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is reduced

> (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a

> glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing

> troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earth's (empty

> space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we can

> see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka

> dayara), there is supposed no opening.

>

> Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round or

> circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL

> KITABremedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12

> th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint,

> which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other

> metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process with

> no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.

>

> The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is: As

> steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle

> represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an

> combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which alters

> the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet Saturn in

> 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self

> created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in

> 12thhouse. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with

> steel ring,

> should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results expected

> from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of Kaag

> rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free, because,

> rust may add an additional planet in this combination i.e. MARCURY, SATURN

> AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results.

>

> *SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO OPEN

> ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE

> KEPT RUST FREE.*

>

With respectful regards…….rabinder bhandari

>

> 2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar

>

> >

> > Respected Bhandari Sahib,

> >

> > Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel

> > ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various

> > astrologers regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school follower I

> > strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and

> > that not even a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is another

> > school of thought who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .

> >

> > I request yourself to clarify:

> >

> > (a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

> > (b). rationale behind this remedy, and

> > ©. anything else you would like to share.

> >

> > I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I

> > am counting on your good-self.

> >

> > Respectfully

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> >

>

May 21, 2009

Thanks Vijay Ji for asking a nice question.

Steel ring as quoted by you is made of soft iron with open ends, by turning horse shoe iron into a circular form, with an opening on one side. As, requirement for remedy quoted in LAL KITAB in 12th house is a steel ring with no joint and with no open ends. Steel ring prepared from horse shoe iron is to be put in Saturn finger of right hand for treatment of SADHE SATTI effects, where as for treatment of Mercury in 12th house is to be put in Mercury finger, so Steel ring as quoted by yourself will not prove effective in performing remedy of Mercury according to LAL KITAB.

with respectful regards.....rabinder bhandari

2009/5/21 Vijay Goel <goyalvj

Respected Bhandariji,Thankyou for such a nice explanation.Here in Jaipur steel ring are made out of Horse Shoe used by black horse, (which is soft iron). It does not contain any joint.These are used when person is going through sade sati.

Is this ring is Okay for mercury in 12th ?.Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951 wrote:>> Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this

> question.> > > > Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it is> must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara).> Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky, height of

> which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury makes> Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air> (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is reduced

> (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a> glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing> troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earth's (empty

> space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we can> see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka> dayara), there is supposed no opening.> >

> > Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round or> circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL> KITABremedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12 > th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint,> which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other> metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process with

> no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.> > > > The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is: As> steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle

> represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an> combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which alters> the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet Saturn in

> 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self> created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in> 12thhouse. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with > steel ring,> should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results expected> from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of Kaag> rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free, because,

> rust may add an additional planet in this combination i.e. MARCURY, SATURN> AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results.> > > > *SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO OPEN

> ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE> KEPT RUST FREE.*> > > > > > > > > > With respectful regards…….rabinder bhandari

> > > 2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar > > >> >> > Respected Bhandari Sahib,> >> > Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel> > ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various

> > astrologers regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school follower I> > strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and> > that not even a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is another

> > school of thought who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .> >> > I request yourself to clarify:> >> > (a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

> > (b). rationale behind this remedy, and> > ©. anything else you would like to share.> >> > I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I> > am counting on your good-self.

> >> > Respectfully> > Yograj Prabhakar> >> > > >>

May 21, 2009

Bhandari Sahib,

I would like to add to your very logical explanation (specially impressive is the reference to palmistry) something that I witnessed with my own eyes. That experience should leave absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind about the "bejoD chhalla" or the solder-less ring.

In the mid-1960's I visited respected Pt Rup Chand ji with my elder brother. A getleman came there and showed Pt ji a thin shiny steel ring. He told Pt ji that he had bought a used back cover of a steel watch for a few annas, cut a hole through it on a lathe machine equal to the circumference of his finger and later shaved off the outer circumference (on a lathe machine) to make quite a shiny, thin ring. Pt ji was so pleased at his ingenuity that he got up from his chair and patted this person on his back quite profusely. The ring was left with Pandit ji as a sample. Before this, Pt ji used to advise people to cut it out of a metallic plate. A ring made out of the back of a watch shines and (perhaps) never gets rusted. My younger brother has got many dozens of such rings made for friends. It should be reasonably easy in India to get such things made.

I could be wrong here but someone recently told me that some Indian coins are now made of pure steel. I am not sure about the legal implications but one could perhaps make a solder-less ring using a coin.

Thanks again for very lucid and logical explanation.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951 wrote:

Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951Re: Be-jod chhalla, Kind attn. Respected Rabinder Bhandari ji. Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 9:25 AM

Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this question.

Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it is must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara). Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky, height of which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury makes Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is reduced (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earthâ€™s (empty space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we can see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka dayara), there is supposed no opening.

Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round or circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL KITAB remedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint, which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process with no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.

The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is: As steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which alters the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet Saturn in 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in 12th house. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with steel ring, should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results expected from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of Kaag rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free, because, rust may add an additional planet in this combination

i.e. MARCURY, SATURN AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results. SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO OPEN ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE KEPT RUST FREE. With respectful regardsâ€¦â€¦.rabinder bhandari

2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ >

Respected Bhandari Sahib,Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less steel ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of various astrologers regarding the term "Joint-less". Being the old school follower I strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece and that not even a "Tanka" of any metal should be there. But there is another school of thought who "redefined" the term "Joint-less" as "open end". I request yourself to clarify:(a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring (b). rationale behind this remedy, and ©. anything else you would like to share. I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion, so I am counting on your good-self.RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar

May 21, 2009

Thankyou Sir,

With respect,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur

Astrologer.

, Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951 wrote:

>

> Thanks Vijay Ji for asking a nice question.

>

> Steel ring as quoted by you is made of soft iron with open ends, by turning

> horse shoe iron into a circular form, with an opening on one side. As,

> requirement for remedy quoted in LAL KITAB in 12th house is a steel ring

> with no joint and with no open ends. Steel ring prepared from horse shoe

> iron is to be put in Saturn finger of right hand for treatment of SADHE

> SATTI effects, where as for treatment of Mercury in 12th house is to be put

> in Mercury finger, so Steel ring as quoted by yourself will not prove

> effective in performing remedy of Mercury according to LAL KITAB.

>

> with respectful regards.....rabinder bhandari

>

> 2009/5/21 Vijay Goel <goyalvj

>

> >

> > Respected Bhandariji,

> >

> > Thankyou for such a nice explanation.

> >

> > Here in Jaipur steel ring are made out of Horse Shoe used by black horse,

> > (which is soft iron). It does not contain any joint.

> > These are used when person is going through sade sati.

> >

> > Is this ring is Okay for mercury in 12th ?.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > <%40>, Mr

> > Bhandari <bhandari1951@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this

> > > question.

> > >

> > > Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it

> > is

> > > must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka

> > dayara).

> > > Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky, height

> > of

> > > which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury

> > makes

> > > Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air

> > > (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is

> > reduced

> > > (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a

> > > glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing

> > > troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earth's (empty

> > > space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we

> > can

> > > see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka

> > > dayara), there is supposed no opening.

> > >

> > > Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round or

> > > circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL

> > > KITABremedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12

> > > th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint,

> > > which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other

> > > metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process

> > with

> > > no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.

> > >

> > > The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is: As

> > > steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle

> > > represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an

> > > combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which

> > alters

> > > the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet Saturn

> > in

> > > 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self

> > > created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in

> > > 12thhouse. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with

> > > steel ring,

> > > should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results expected

> > > from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of

> > Kaag

> > > rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free,

> > because,

> > > rust may add an additional planet in this combination i.e. MARCURY,

> > SATURN

> > > AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results.

> > >

> > > *SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO

> > OPEN

> > > ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE

> > > KEPT RUST FREE.*

> > >

> > > With respectful regards…….rabinder bhandari

> > >

> > > 2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhandari Sahib,

> > > >

> > > > Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less

> > steel

> > > > ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of

> > various

> > > > astrologers regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school

> > follower I

> > > > strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece

> > and

> > > > that not even a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is

> > another

> > > > school of thought who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .

> > > >

> > > > I request yourself to clarify:

> > > >

> > > > (a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

> > > > (b). rationale behind this remedy, and

> > > > ©. anything else you would like to share.

> > > >

> > > > I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion,

> > so I

> > > > am counting on your good-self.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 21, 2009

Respected Rabinder Bhandari ji

Pranams !

I am very happy to read such thought provoking discussion on a very useful

issue. Thanks for your inputs.Many doubts are cleared.

It is also written in the Lalkitab that two rings should be made, one is for

floating in the flowing river and another for wearing in the smallest finger of

right hand . can u elaborate on this ? logic behind this ritual ?

Regards

Rajeev K Khattar

, " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote:

>

> Thankyou Sir,

>

> With respect,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur

> Astrologer.

>

> , Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Vijay Ji for asking a nice question.

> >

> > Steel ring as quoted by you is made of soft iron with open ends, by turning

> > horse shoe iron into a circular form, with an opening on one side. As,

> > requirement for remedy quoted in LAL KITAB in 12th house is a steel ring

> > with no joint and with no open ends. Steel ring prepared from horse shoe

> > iron is to be put in Saturn finger of right hand for treatment of SADHE

> > SATTI effects, where as for treatment of Mercury in 12th house is to be put

> > in Mercury finger, so Steel ring as quoted by yourself will not prove

> > effective in performing remedy of Mercury according to LAL KITAB.

> >

> > with respectful regards.....rabinder bhandari

> >

> > 2009/5/21 Vijay Goel <goyalvj@>

> >

> > >

> > > Respected Bhandariji,

> > >

> > > Thankyou for such a nice explanation.

> > >

> > > Here in Jaipur steel ring are made out of Horse Shoe used by black horse,

> > > (which is soft iron). It does not contain any joint.

> > > These are used when person is going through sade sati.

> > >

> > > Is this ring is Okay for mercury in 12th ?.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > <%40>, Mr

> > > Bhandari <bhandari1951@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Prabhakar Ji for your words and respect given by asking this

> > > > question.

> > > >

> > > > Before, we start discussing about the steel metal ring as questioned; it

> > > is

> > > > must for us to understand the sense of circle of Mercury (Budh ka

> > > dayara).

> > > > Mercury represents the entire roundness of empty space in the sky,

height

> > > of

> > > > which is reflected as blue color in the sky (planet Rahu), as Mercury

> > > makes

> > > > Rahu in exalted state in its signs, but influences the quality of air

> > > > (Jupiter), as we go high in the sky, quality of air for breathing is

> > > reduced

> > > > (less presence of oxygen) and on the other side, when air is closed in a

> > > > glass jar, it turns into a poisonous gas, which again creates breathing

> > > > troubles. In both these cases, peripheral circle of our earth's (empty

> > > > space)atmosphere and also that of a closed glass jar is continuous; we

> > > can

> > > > see no exit is there, so is the case with the circle of Mercury (Budh ka

> > > > dayara), there is supposed no opening.

> > > >

> > > > Similarly such continuity is must, which is supposed to exist in round

or

> > > > circular items of the Mercury, due to which it is recommended in LAL

> > > > KITABremedies, when planet Mercury is placed in 12

> > > > th house, to wear a circular ring made of pure steel, without any joint,

> > > > which means that there should be no open ends and no joint of any other

> > > > metal exist. So, such ring is supposed to be made by moldings process

> > > with

> > > > no open ends, not by turning a steel wire in a round circle.

> > > >

> > > > The reason, why only steel metal is recommended here for this ring is:

As

> > > > steel metal represents item of planet Saturn and complete round circle

> > > > represents planet Mercury, which in other words, we can say that an

> > > > combination of Mercury and Saturn in positive sense is created, which

> > > alters

> > > > the negative influence of planet mercury by linking it with planet

Saturn

> > > in

> > > > 12th house. So, it influences native up to a great level through a self

> > > > created combination of Mercury and Saturn with their placement in

> > > > 12thhouse. Here, I will like to say, the person, who will wear with

> > > > steel ring,

> > > > should not take alcohol etc, because this may spoil good results

expected

> > > > from Saturn in 12th house i.e. Machh rekha may strart giving results of

> > > Kaag

> > > > rekha and special care is to paid to keep it shining and rust free,

> > > because,

> > > > rust may add an additional planet in this combination i.e. MARCURY,

> > > SATURN

> > > > AND RAHU and will be giving adverse results.

> > > >

> > > > *SO, IT IS SUGGESTED TO BE CAREFUL, WHILE WEARING SUCH STEEL RING, NO

> > > OPEN

> > > > ENDS SHOULD EXIST, NO OTHER METAL TOUCH SHOULD BE THERE AND RING MUST BE

> > > > KEPT RUST FREE.*

> > > >

> > > > With respectful regards…….rabinder bhandari

> > > >

> > > > 2009/5/20 Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhandari Sahib,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, There is one remedy mentioned in Lal kitab of wearing Joint-less

> > > steel

> > > > > ring for Mercury in khana number 12. There are diffeent views of

> > > various

> > > > > astrologers regarding the term " Joint-less " . Being the old school

> > > follower I

> > > > > strongly believe that the above mentioned challa must be in one piece

> > > and

> > > > > that not even a " Tanka " of any metal should be there. But there is

> > > another

> > > > > school of thought who " redefined " the term " Joint-less " as " open end " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I request yourself to clarify:

> > > > >

> > > > > (a). The exact meanings of joint-less ring

> > > > > (b). rationale behind this remedy, and

> > > > > ©. anything else you would like to share.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe that only a person of your caliber can clear this confusion,

> > > so I

> > > > > am counting on your good-self.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 22, 2009

Respected Bhandari ji, ur exqerience in palmistry provoked me to ask

the question as to why a challa - ring has been suggested. Why has

kara been excluded. (wearing a kara was in vogue in pt ji's time and a

lot easier to obtain) I mean if it is a ring then a finger has to be

assigned to it. Don't u think wearing a ring in finger assumes

different proportions. Regards. Kulbir.

On 5/20/09, Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951 wrote: