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My Dear boyThe writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof. Suresh Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair knowedge of the subect. That is why Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the field of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's remedies verbatim in his group. If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS in 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request members of this group to read this book.Keep it up, God bless you and your entire familyYograj Prabhakar--- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely wrote:yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely dhanwantri book Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 10:58 PM

 

Respected Gurujans,I found a buk of Sh. DD Dhanwantri buk on LK in net at the following sitehttp://www.uploadmi rrors.com/ download/ 0FVP4J8W/ bddhnwantri. pdf

Is this a same buk all are using for remedies and is it a good buk to hav print or to purchase.Pls guideBRyogesh

 

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Respected Guruji, as appropriately mentioned by ur goodself there is

no doubt Dhanwantri ji had good knowledge of the subject and must have

laboured hard to write this book. But i am afraid the book is useful

in true sense for advance level students. Recently i met Bhandari ji

and after seeing his method and study am thoroughly convinced that one

should be thorough with basic concepts of samudrik i.e. 1939 and 40

farmaan and armaan before jumping into lalkitab part that relies more

rather heavily on astrology. There are pitfalls so it is better to be

clear with the basics before using/reading commentories. Anyway you

can guide better on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.

 

On 5/30/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

> My Dear boy

>

> The writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as

> mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof. Suresh

> Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair

> knowedge of the subect. That is why  Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the field

> of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's

> remedies verbatim in his group.

>

> If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you

> called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS in

> 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request members of

> this group to read this book.

>

> Keep it up, God bless you and your entire family

>

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> --- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely wrote:

>

> yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely

> dhanwantri book

>

> Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 10:58 PM

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Respected Gurujans,I found a buk of Sh. DD Dhanwantri buk on LK in net

> at the following sitehttp://www.uploadmi rrors.com/ download/ 0FVP4J8W/

> bddhnwantri. pdf

> Is this a same buk all are using for remedies and is it a good buk to hav

> print or to purchase.Pls guideBRyogesh

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Dear Kulbir ji,Bhai Pradeep Sharma ji and Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj ji is telling it for the ages what Shri Bhandari ji advised you recently, I completely agree with you and Bhandari Sahib that one should first understand the basic from 1939 and 1940 editions.We are all guilty of this lapse, that is why people are making mockery of this divine scripture and invented the so-called theories of "planet shifting" and "Antar masnooyee/Pratyantar masnooyi" and what not. But you will certainly agree, that right from the day one both of us gave great importance to the "Ilm-Qyafaa" factor, didn't we ? Whenever you forwarded any horoscope of a stranger to me, I duly requested you to send the person directly to me. Why? because you know very well that I do not proceed further without a proper Darustee of any horoscope. I would like to quote three live

examples in this regard for your ready reference.You must be remembering about Mr. Kapila of Dhanaas (a gentleman who runs a big astrology institute) who was not ready to accept that his Saturn was not in 10th house rather was adamant that it in 11th as mentioned in his horoscope? But Sarturn 10 was clearly visible in his house as well as on his eyebrows, and he duly convinced when I asked him two question in that regard. You also must be remembering of one Mr. Sood, whos Tewa was jointly rectified by you, me and Shri Krishan Gopal ji at my place, his Jupiter was found in a diffrerent house (in 12th rather instead of 1st as showed in his horoscope after the Darustee), once the Tewa was rectified we were able to locate the problem areas in seconds, remember?. And also one guy who met us at Swami Maheshwaranand's ashram who was initially shocked but duly accepted the negative effects of sun+mer+ven (illicit relations with one of his cousins) after

the proper darustee done by us. In all these these cases, the "Ilm-Samudrik" played a big role. I am not quoting these example to declare myself a "know all" guy, but only to confirm that whatever Bhandari Sahib has told is absolutely correct. I must confess that Palmisrty is not my forte, but after meeting Shri Bhandari ji, I felt that if one is really serious to go deep into the great ocean (whom some neo-intelligentsia called a mere a samall drop in the ocean) of Lal Kitab - learning the Saamudrik part in general and palmistry in particular is a MUST.As far as Dhanwantris ji's book is concerned (no disrespect to the departed soul), no "advance user" need any ready-made fast food as the original scriptures has enough armory as you must have experienced it during the meeting with Shri. Rabinder Bhandari ji.. My humble suggestion is that we all should go to the "Sharan" of Shri Rabinder Bhandari ji and request him to teach us this important

aspect of Lal Kitab, I am sure that a Darya Dil person like him will not disappoint us, what do you think?SincerelyYograj Prabhakar--- On Sun, 31/5/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:kulbir bance <kulbirbanceRe: dhanwantri book Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 1:07 PM

 

Respected Guruji, as appropriately mentioned by ur goodself there is

no doubt Dhanwantri ji had good knowledge of the subject and must have

laboured hard to write this book. But i am afraid the book is useful

in true sense for advance level students. Recently i met Bhandari ji

and after seeing his method and study am thoroughly convinced that one

should be thorough with basic concepts of samudrik i.e. 1939 and 40

farmaan and armaan before jumping into lalkitab part that relies more

rather heavily on astrology.. There are pitfalls so it is better to be

clear with the basics before using/reading commentories. Anyway you

can guide better on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.

 

On 5/30/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ > wrote:

> My Dear boy

>

> The writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as

> mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof. Suresh

> Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair

> knowedge of the subect. That is why Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the field

> of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's

> remedies verbatim in his group.

>

> If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you

> called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS in

> 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request members of

> this group to read this book.

>

> Keep it up, God bless you and your entire family

>

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> --- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely@ gmail.com>

> dhanwantri book

>

> Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 10:58 PM

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

Respected Gurujans,I found a buk of Sh. DD Dhanwantri buk on LK in net

> at the following sitehttp://www. uploadmi rrors.com/ download/ 0FVP4J8W/

> bddhnwantri. pdf

> Is this a same buk all are using for remedies and is it a good buk to hav

> print or to purchase.Pls guideBRyogesh

>

 

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Respected Kulbir Ji,This is my assumptions that most of us don't ever read the titles of the book,rather most of us had not have the access to correct transliterated titles. I term it the main reason for these types of confusion. I am trying to give the the transliteration of the main title of all the books for the convenience of members who dont know urdu

The pdf version of the following text is also uploaded in file sectionlalkitabTitles.PDF 

Lalkitab-Titles

Let us start

with the different Titles of Lalkitab published during 1939 to 1942 & 1952.

The title is clarifying that what is this system and on which primary system it

is based.

1.    1939 Edition:  the title of the book ,transliteration of the

contents as taken exactly from 1939 book:-

“Hatheli Ki Lakeeron se teva

(tipda) Janm Kundli banaane aur zindagi ke poorey haalaat dekhney ke liye

Samudrik Ki Lalkitab sn-1939â€

हथेली की लकीरोà¤

से टेवा (टिपडा) जनà¥à¤® कà¥à¤¡à¤à¤²à¥€ बनाने और ज़िनà¥à¤¦à¤—ी के पूरे हालात देखने के लिये समà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤•

की लालकिताब – सन 1939

Translation of above in English can be

“Lalkitab 1939 of samudrik - To make

the horoscope with the help of lines of Palm and to know the conditions of

life  “

2.    1940 Edition:  the title of the book ,transliteration of the

contents as taken exactly from  book:-

“Hatheli Ki Lakeeron se teva

(tipda) Janm Kundli banaane aur zindagi ke poorey haalaat dekhney ke liye

Samudrik Ki Lalkitab ke armaan sn-1940â€

हथेली की लकीरोठ से टेवा (टिपडा) जनà¥à¤® कà¥à¤¡à¤à¤²à¥€ बनाने और ज़िनà¥à¤¦à¤—ी के पूरे हालात देखने के लिये समà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤•  की लालकिताब के अरमान  – सन 1940

Translation of above in English can be

“Lalkitab ke armaan 1940 of samudrik -

To make the horoscope with the help of lines of Palm and to know the conditions

of life  “

3.    1941 Edition:  the title of the book

,transliteration of the contents as taken exactly from  book:-

“Hatheli Ki Lakeeron se teva

(tipda) Janm Kundli banaane aur zindagi ke poorey haalaat dekhney ke liye

Samudrik Ki Lalkitab teesra hissa sn-1941â€

हथेली की लकीरोà¤

से टेवा (टिपडा) जनà¥à¤® कà¥à¤¡à¤à¤²à¥€ बनाने और ज़िनà¥à¤¦à¤—ी के पूरे हालात देखने के लिये समà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤•  की लालकिताब तीसरा हिसà¥à¤¸à¤¾  – सन 1941

Translation of above in English can be

“Lalkitab teesra hissa 1941 based upon

samudrik - To make the horoscope with the help of lines of Palm and to know the

conditions of life  “

1942 Edition:  title of the book ,transliteration of the

contents as taken exactly from  book:-

“Hatheli Ki Lakeeron se teva

(tipda) Janm Kundli banaane aur zindagi ke poorey haalaat dekhney ke liye ilam

Samudrik Ki Lalkitab tarmeem shuda sn-1942â€

हथेली की लकीरोठ से टेवा (टिपडा) जनà¥à¤® कà¥à¤¡à¤à¤²à¥€ बनाने और ज़िनà¥à¤¦à¤—ी के पूरे हालात देखने के लिये इलà¥à¤®  समà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤• की लालकिताब तरà¥à¤®à¥€à¤®à¤¶à¥à¤¦à¤¾  – सन 1942

Translation of above in English shall be

“Corrected Lalkitab 1942 based upon samudrik - To make the horoscope

with the help of lines of Palm and to know the conditions of life  “

4.    1952

Edition:  the title of the book

,transliteration of the contents as taken exactly from  book:-

“(Astrology Based upon Palmistry) -

ilam Samudrik Ki buniyad per chalney waley

Jyotish kee madad se haath rekha ke zariye darust kee huyi Janm Kundli se

zindagi ke haalaat dekhney ke liye Lalkitab sn-1952â€

(Astrology Based upon Palmistry) इलà¥à¤® समà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤• की बà¥à¤¨à¤¿à¤¯à¤¾à¤¦ पर चलने वाले  जà¥à¤¯à¥‹à¤¤à¤¿à¤· की मदद से हाथ रेखा के ज़रिये दà¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¥à¤¤ की हà¥à¤ˆ जनà¥à¤® कà¥à¤¡à¤à¤²à¥€ से ज़िनà¥à¤¦à¤—ी के हालात

देखने के लिये लालकिताब – सन 1952

Translation of above in English can be

“(Astrology Based upon Palmistry) Lalkitab

-1952 -To know the conditions of life with the help of the Jyotish that is

based on Horoscope which is corrected with the help of palmistry “

The titles of

all the books are self explanatory and need not to elaborate further.Our group always recommend to read the original texts. Though it is taken otherwise many time by few of our group members. But I still recommend the member to learn to read Urdu and read original books.

Regarding Dhanwantri Ji's book, I can say that this person has done a good job. The book uploaded is good for reading, I feel that printing quality is very poor and recommend members to purchase the book.Moreover this book is not for beginners and will be suitable for person who know the grammar well. 

RegardsNirmal

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir ji,Bhai Pradeep Sharma ji and Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj ji is telling it for the ages what Shri Bhandari ji advised you recently, I completely agree with you and Bhandari Sahib that one should first understand the basic from 1939 and 1940 editions.We are all guilty of this lapse, that is why people are making mockery of this divine scripture and invented the so-called theories of " planet shifting " and " Antar masnooyee/Pratyantar masnooyi " and what not.

But you will certainly agree, that right from the day one both of us gave great importance to the " Ilm-Qyafaa " factor, didn't we ? Whenever you forwarded any horoscope of a stranger to me, I duly requested you to send the person directly to me. Why? because you know very well that I do not proceed further without a proper Darustee of any horoscope.

I would like to quote three live

examples in this regard for your ready reference.You must be remembering about Mr. Kapila of Dhanaas (a gentleman who runs a big astrology institute) who was not ready to accept that his Saturn was not in 10th house rather was adamant that it in 11th as mentioned in his horoscope? But Sarturn 10 was clearly visible in his house as well as on his eyebrows, and he duly convinced when I asked him two question in that regard. You also must be remembering of one Mr. Sood, whos Tewa was jointly rectified by you, me and Shri Krishan Gopal ji at my place, his Jupiter was found in a diffrerent house (in 12th rather instead of 1st  as showed in his horoscope after the Darustee), once the Tewa was rectified we were able to locate the problem areas in seconds, remember?. And also one guy who met us at Swami Maheshwaranand's ashram who was initially shocked but duly accepted the negative effects of sun+mer+ven (illicit relations with one of his cousins) after

the proper darustee done by us. In all these these cases, the " Ilm-Samudrik " played a big role. I am not quoting these example to declare myself a " know all " guy, but only to confirm that whatever Bhandari Sahib has told is absolutely correct.

I must confess that Palmisrty is not my forte, but after meeting Shri Bhandari ji, I felt that if one is really serious to go deep into the great ocean (whom some neo-intelligentsia called a mere a samall drop in the ocean) of Lal Kitab - learning the Saamudrik part in general and palmistry in particular is a MUST.As far as Dhanwantris ji's book is concerned (no disrespect to the departed soul), no " advance user " need any ready-made fast food as the original scriptures has enough armory as you must have experienced it during the meeting with Shri. Rabinder Bhandari ji.. My humble suggestion is that we all should go to the " Sharan " of Shri Rabinder Bhandari ji and request him to teach us this important

aspect of Lal Kitab, I am sure that a Darya Dil person like him will not disappoint us, what do you think?SincerelyYograj Prabhakar--- On Sun, 31/5/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:

kulbir bance <kulbirbanceRe: dhanwantri book

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 1:07 PM

 

Respected Guruji, as appropriately mentioned by ur goodself there is

no doubt Dhanwantri ji had good knowledge of the subject and must have

laboured hard to write this book. But i am afraid the book is useful

in true sense for advance level students. Recently i met Bhandari ji

and after seeing his method and study am thoroughly convinced that one

should be thorough with basic concepts of samudrik i.e. 1939 and 40

farmaan and armaan before jumping into lalkitab part that relies more

rather heavily on astrology.. There are pitfalls so it is better to be

clear with the basics before using/reading commentories. Anyway you

can guide better on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.

 

On 5/30/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ > wrote:

> My Dear boy

>

> The writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as

> mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof. Suresh

> Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair

> knowedge of the subect. That is why  Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the field

> of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's

> remedies verbatim in his group.

>

> If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you

> called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS in

> 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request members of

> this group to read this book.

>

> Keep it up, God bless you and your entire family

>

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> --- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely@ gmail.com>

> dhanwantri book

>

> Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 10:58 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Respected Gurujans,I found a buk of Sh. DD Dhanwantri buk on LK in net

> at the following sitehttp://www. uploadmi rrors.com/ download/ 0FVP4J8W/

> bddhnwantri. pdf

> Is this a same buk all are using for remedies and is it a good buk to hav

> print or to purchase.Pls guideBRyogesh

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

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Respected kulbir paaji,

Is there a need to read Mr Dhanwantri ji's book after having read all 5 LK

books??(not that i have done it but just curious)

 

Yours respectfuly

Jitin Syal

 

, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:

>

> Respected Guruji, as appropriately mentioned by ur goodself there is

> no doubt Dhanwantri ji had good knowledge of the subject and must have

> laboured hard to write this book. But i am afraid the book is useful

> in true sense for advance level students. Recently i met Bhandari ji

> and after seeing his method and study am thoroughly convinced that one

> should be thorough with basic concepts of samudrik i.e. 1939 and 40

> farmaan and armaan before jumping into lalkitab part that relies more

> rather heavily on astrology. There are pitfalls so it is better to be

> clear with the basics before using/reading commentories. Anyway you

> can guide better on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.

>

> On 5/30/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

> > My Dear boy

> >

> > The writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as

> > mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof. Suresh

> > Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair

> > knowedge of the subect. That is why  Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the field

> > of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's

> > remedies verbatim in his group.

> >

> > If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you

> > called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS in

> > 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request members of

> > this group to read this book.

> >

> > Keep it up, God bless you and your entire family

> >

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> >

> > --- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely wrote:

> >

> > yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely

> > dhanwantri book

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> > Respected Gurujans,I found a buk of Sh. DD Dhanwantri buk on LK in net

> > at the following sitehttp://www.uploadmi rrors.com/ download/ 0FVP4J8W/

> > bddhnwantri. pdf

> > Is this a same buk all are using for remedies and is it a good buk to hav

> > print or to purchase.Pls guideBRyogesh

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> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

> > Travel http://in.travel./

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Jitin ji, of course. The person dedicated a major part of his life in

study of the subject. He applied the book practically and recorded his

observations for us. Reading is reccommended. You may differ or agree.

That is ur personal issue. Regards. Kulbir.

 

On 6/1/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82 wrote:

> Respected kulbir paaji,

> Is there a need to read Mr Dhanwantri ji's book after having read all 5 LK

> books??(not that i have done it but just curious)

>

> Yours respectfuly

> Jitin Syal

>

> , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:

>>

>> Respected Guruji, as appropriately mentioned by ur goodself there is

>> no doubt Dhanwantri ji had good knowledge of the subject and must have

>> laboured hard to write this book. But i am afraid the book is useful

>> in true sense for advance level students. Recently i met Bhandari ji

>> and after seeing his method and study am thoroughly convinced that one

>> should be thorough with basic concepts of samudrik i.e. 1939 and 40

>> farmaan and armaan before jumping into lalkitab part that relies more

>> rather heavily on astrology. There are pitfalls so it is better to be

>> clear with the basics before using/reading commentories. Anyway you

>> can guide better on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.

>>

>> On 5/30/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

>> > My Dear boy

>> >

>> > The writer of this book is late BD Dhanwantri, not DD Dhanwantri as

>> > mentioned by you. This man who is no more (RIP) as informed by Prof.

>> > Suresh

>> > Upadhyaye ji (AKA Varun Trivedi and numerous other IDs) to me had a fair

>> > knowedge of the subect. That is why  Prof. Upadyaye who enters in the

>> > field

>> > of Lal Kitab not more than 5-6 years use to recommend Dhanwanti ji's

>> > remedies verbatim in his group.

>> >

>> > If I am not mistaken, I still remember that you are the same guY who you

>> > called me when you were not selected in the final interview of the IAS

>> > in

>> > 1998. Anyways, the link you have provided is excellent. I request

>> > members of

>> > this group to read this book.

>> >

>> > Keep it up, God bless you and your entire family

>> >

>> > Yograj Prabhakar

>> >

>> > --- On Sat, 30/5/09, yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely wrote:

>> >

>> > yogesh jaitely <yogesh.jaitely

>> > dhanwantri book

>> >

>> > Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 10:58 PM

>> >

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