Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the responsibility of making all the original books available to the public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi Kulbir, I would like to build the software for teva drusti if the validation are not infinite. Regards Vivek , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter > of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the > responsibility of making all the original books available to the > public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he > made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic > duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research > work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to > perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 > points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to > develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles > for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month > kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital > points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i > wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and > join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Vivek, it is too complex. It is not exclusively astronomy based. Which planet does the native represent. What type of house does he lives in. What type relations he maintains. Plus there is palmistry. I know people have been trying to build this type of software by collecting some points from here and there. Still if u try and succed by 50%. It will be a major accomplishment. Regards. Kulbir. On 6/10/09, Vivek <sonivivek wrote: > Hi Kulbir, > > I would like to build the software for teva drusti if the validation are not > infinite. > > Regards > Vivek > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter >> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the >> responsibility of making all the original books available to the >> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he >> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic >> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research >> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to >> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 >> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to >> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles >> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month >> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital >> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i >> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and >> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Vivek ji, senior members can guide u better on developing software. But when i meditated on ur question i found that lalkitab method is 95% tewe ki darusti and 5 p% tewewale ki darusti. I am afraid what u have in mind is what we call symptoms to be precise " Nishaniyan " . Regards. Kulbir. On 6/11/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > Dear Vivek, it is too complex. It is not exclusively astronomy based. > Which planet does the native represent. What type of house does he > lives in. What type relations he maintains. Plus there is palmistry. I > know people have been trying to build this type of software by > collecting some points from here and there. Still if u try and succed > by 50%. It will be a major accomplishment. Regards. Kulbir. > > On 6/10/09, Vivek <sonivivek wrote: >> Hi Kulbir, >> >> I would like to build the software for teva drusti if the validation are >> not >> infinite. >> >> Regards >> Vivek >> >> >> , kulbir bance <kulbirbance >> wrote: >>> >>> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter >>> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the >>> responsibility of making all the original books available to the >>> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he >>> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic >>> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research >>> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to >>> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 >>> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to >>> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles >>> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month >>> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital >>> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i >>> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and >>> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Dear Mr. Kulbir, Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have ignored. So I leave that to you. The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly charts. As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. Best wishes, Finn , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter > of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the > responsibility of making all the original books available to the > public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he > made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic > duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research > work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to > perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 > points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to > develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles > for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month > kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital > points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i > wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and > join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Mr. Finn, u started the debate for application of pinpoint predictions by lalkitab practitioners. As an amatuer i posted all the possible apprehensions. If u still feel that ur goodself or anybody with ur school of thought thinks that pin point or absolute predictions using varshphal data in isolation is possible; may god bless ur goodself with Brahma ji's powers. Actions speak louder than words. Pick a horoscope for prediction. Lets see the results. Wish u all the best. Kulbir. On 6/16/09, Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: > Dear Mr. Kulbir, > > Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results > as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have > ignored. So I leave that to you. > > The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right > out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly > charts. > > As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of > timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely > different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. > > Best wishes, > Finn > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter >> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the >> responsibility of making all the original books available to the >> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he >> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic >> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research >> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to >> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 >> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to >> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles >> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month >> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital >> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i >> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and >> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Respected Finn Ji and Kulbir Paji - Please forgive me in advance in case I have missed it, but how is the calculation of the daily chart computed?Best Regards,IqbalUSASent via Blackberry "Finn Wandahl" Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:07:57 -0000 Re: Clarification - Mr. Finn. Dear Mr. Kulbir, Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have ignored. So I leave that to you. The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly charts. As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. Best wishes, Finn , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter > of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the > responsibility of making all the original books available to the > public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he > made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic > duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research > work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to > perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 > points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to > develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles > for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month > kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital > points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i > wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and > join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Iqbal ji, for calculative part Nirmal ji's software can be used. Mathematical part is no problem but the real question is. what purpose will it solve? If we keep on moving planets at such pace many such conditions will arise where the native will be required to do such acts that are totally forbidden in the natal horoscope. What to do then. Further there is hour minute second degree kundali. How to corelate all this with natal kundali. I havenot any logical answer. Regards. Kulbir. On 6/17/09, Iqbal Singh <punjabilovebug wrote: > Respected Finn Ji and Kulbir Paji - Please forgive me in advance in case I > have missed it, but how is the calculation of the daily chart computed? > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > USA > > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl > > Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:07:57 > > Re: Clarification - Mr. Finn. > > > Dear Mr. Kulbir, > > Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results > as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have > ignored. So I leave that to you. > > The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right > out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly > charts. > > As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of > timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely > different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. > > Best wishes, > Finn > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter >> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the >> responsibility of making all the original books available to the >> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he >> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic >> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research >> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to >> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 >> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to >> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles >> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month >> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital >> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i >> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and >> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Iqbal ji; it is a brotherly advise/request; kindly do concentrate on Aakhri Kundali method given in 1942 edition. Regards. Kulbir. On 6/17/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > Iqbal ji, for calculative part Nirmal ji's software can be used. > Mathematical part is no problem but the real question is. what purpose > will it solve? If we keep on moving planets at such pace many such > conditions will arise where the native will be required to do such > acts that are totally forbidden in the natal horoscope. What to do > then. Further there is hour minute second degree kundali. How to > corelate all this with natal kundali. I havenot any logical answer. > Regards. Kulbir. > > On 6/17/09, Iqbal Singh <punjabilovebug wrote: >> Respected Finn Ji and Kulbir Paji - Please forgive me in advance in case >> I >> have missed it, but how is the calculation of the daily chart computed? >> >> Best Regards, >> Iqbal >> USA >> >> >> >> Sent via Blackberry >> >> >> " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl >> >> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:07:57 >> >> Re: Clarification - Mr. Finn. >> >> >> Dear Mr. Kulbir, >> >> Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same >> results >> as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have >> ignored. So I leave that to you. >> >> The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read >> right >> out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the >> monthly >> charts. >> >> As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method >> of >> timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely >> different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed >> together. >> >> Best wishes, >> Finn >> >> >> , kulbir bance <kulbirbance >> wrote: >>> >>> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter >>> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the >>> responsibility of making all the original books available to the >>> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he >>> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic >>> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research >>> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to >>> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 >>> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to >>> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles >>> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month >>> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital >>> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i >>> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and >>> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear Kulbir, No, you are the one who has some doubts about the predictive powers of the Varshphal kundali, not I. Therefore it is your own good self who should pick some horoscopes to predict. I am not responsible for your lack of faith in this, so it is not up to me to prove anything to you. You have to do this yourself. It is the only way out of the woods. Begin to make the predictions yourself and find out just how far you can make it work. Believe me, this is best remedy. It has worked for others and it worked for me. Best wishes, Finn , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Mr. Finn, u started the debate for application of pinpoint predictions > by lalkitab practitioners. As an amatuer i posted all the possible > apprehensions. If u still feel that ur goodself or anybody with ur > school of thought thinks that pin point or absolute predictions using > varshphal data in isolation is possible; may god bless ur goodself > with Brahma ji's powers. Actions speak louder than words. Pick a > horoscope for prediction. Lets see the results. Wish u all the best. > Kulbir. > > On 6/16/09, Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear Mr. Kulbir, > > > > Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results > > as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have > > ignored. So I leave that to you. > > > > The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right > > out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly > > charts. > > > > As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of > > timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely > > different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. > > > > Best wishes, > > Finn , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Mr. Finn, u started the debate for application of pinpoint predictions > by lalkitab practitioners. As an amatuer i posted all the possible > apprehensions. If u still feel that ur goodself or anybody with ur > school of thought thinks that pin point or absolute predictions using > varshphal data in isolation is possible; may god bless ur goodself > with Brahma ji's powers. Actions speak louder than words. Pick a > horoscope for prediction. Lets see the results. Wish u all the best. > Kulbir. > > On 6/16/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear Mr. Kulbir, > > > > Since my method of calculating monthly charts gives exactly the same results > > as the usual methods, I don't know what vital point you think I have > > ignored. So I leave that to you. > > > > The advantage of my method is that the planetary positions can be read right > > out of the Varshphal Kundali itself, so you do not have to draw the monthly > > charts. > > > > As I see it, the calculation of the monthly charts and the usual method of > > timing the monthly results in the Varshphal Kundali are two completely > > different things, that need to be seen separately - and not mixed together. > > > > Best wishes, > > Finn > > > > > > , kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote: > >> > >> Respected Mr. Finn, i have nothing personal against u or as a matter > >> of fact anybody. Sir, when we started this group Prabhakar ji took the > >> responsibility of making all the original books available to the > >> public. He did accomplish it against heavy odds. At the very onset he > >> made it clear that after this owing to his professional and domestic > >> duties he will not be actively available for decoding or research > >> work. He still takes out his time to guide. But we miserably failed to > >> perform our part. It indeed is painful to see when somebody uses 2-3 > >> points for tewa darusti and hand over a list of upayas. We are yet to > >> develop a system as to how to relate natal and annual chart principles > >> for predictive and remedial purpose. Ur technique of using month > >> kundali didn't appeal to me as it ignored or left aside many vital > >> points. Hadn't u been a learned man and professional astrologer, i > >> wouldn't have bothered to comment. Kindly take it in right spirit and > >> join us in the pursuit. Regards. Kulbir. > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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