Price of lal kitab 1952 edition .....

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Dear Kulbir ji , I am not showing my careless attitude , this just a  typing mistake , which can done by anybody else , none one is perfect in this world . Kisi ne kaha bhi to hai " To err is human " .

Any how if i had hurt your feelings then i feel sorry from my heart.Apni respect dikhane ke liye hame kinhi shabdo ki jarrorat nahi hai , wo dil mein hoti hai .... and i am not believing in showing off.

Neelkamal~ Keep the dream alive: Hit the snooze button. ~

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Dear Neelkamal Ji,

It is taught in 5th standard as to how to address a letter.

The posts which begin with no header on public forums denote 2 things only

1. Arrogance,

2. Careless/casual attitude.

i think it show arrogance more.

Kindly take note in future.

-- RegardsKulbir Bians

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Neelkamal <kamalneel27 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir ji , I am not showing my careless attitude , this just a  typing mistake , which can done by anybody else , none one is perfect in this world . Kisi ne kaha bhi to hai " To err is human " .

Any how if i had hurt your feelings then i feel sorry from my heart.Apni respect dikhane ke liye hame kinhi shabdo ki jarrorat nahi hai , wo dil mein hoti hai .... and i am not believing in showing off.

Neelkamal~ Keep the dream alive: Hit the snooze button. ~

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Dear Kulbir Ji,

Sensitivity level of every human being is different, you are very much sensitive and caring for LAL Kitab.

Instead of using your sensitive creative energy in small matters like this, please use your energy for LaL kitab Research ,

I have not seen these days any research work in LaLKitab in our Group. Which is very much required.

A practical approach is very much required. Many senior members of our group have done individual research in this field, applied remedial measures of LaL Kitab. But they may have not shared the following:

1. Kundali interpretations

2. Remedial Measure Effect (duration)

3. If fail why

4. Correct way to do remedial measure

5. Logic behind remedial measure

6. Warnings/precautions

If in a scientific/ egoless way we can share our experience, we can give new heights to Astrology.

Dear Neelkamal ji,

If you just say it’s typing mistake. It is sufficient, we are all brothers and sisters join this group for enhancing and sharing knowledge.

Regard’s

Yogita

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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Yogita Ji,Yes you are absolutely right.I think some misunderstandings crept in and the purpose of the group was defeated in wasting time and energy about petty and some worthless issues.Thanks for your wakening call.

Atleast I WILL mend my ways and lets hope you will see the results soon.now ALL IS WELL.regardsKulbir Bains.On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, yogita <yog_ita2003 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir Ji,

Sensitivity level of every human being is different, you are very much sensitive and caring for LAL Kitab.

Instead of using your sensitive creative energy in small matters like this, please use your energy for LaL kitab Research ,

I have not seen these days any research work in LaLKitab in our Group. Which is very much required.

A practical approach is very much required. Many senior members of our group have done individual research in this field, applied remedial measures of LaL Kitab. But they may have not shared the following:

1.       Kundali interpretations

2.       Remedial Measure Effect (duration)

3.       If fail why

4.       Correct way to do remedial measure

5.       Logic behind remedial measure

6.       Warnings/precautions

If in a scientific/ egoless  way we can share our experience, we can give new heights to Astrology.

Dear Neelkamal ji,

If you just say it’s typing mistake. It is sufficient, we are all brothers and sisters join this group for enhancing and sharing knowledge.

Regard’s

Yogita

 

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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Dear Kulbir Ji,

Your greatness, you are welcome.

Regard’s Yogita--- On Thu, 25/3/10, Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote:

Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkbRe: Price of lal kitab 1952 edition ..... Date: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 12:48 PM

Yogita Ji,

Yes you are absolutely right.

I think some misunderstandings crept in and the purpose of the group was defeated in wasting time and energy about petty and some worthless issues.

Thanks for your wakening call.

Atleast I WILL mend my ways and lets hope you will see the results soon.

now ALL IS WELL.

regards

Kulbir Bains.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, yogita <yog_ita2003@ .co. in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir Ji,

Sensitivity level of every human being is different, you are very much sensitive and caring for LAL Kitab.

Instead of using your sensitive creative energy in small matters like this, please use your energy for LaL kitab Research ,

I have not seen these days any research work in LaLKitab in our Group. Which is very much required.

A practical approach is very much required. Many senior members of our group have done individual research in this field, applied remedial measures of LaL Kitab. But they may have not shared the following:

1. Kundali interpretations

2. Remedial Measure Effect (duration)

3. If fail why

4. Correct way to do remedial measure

5. Logic behind remedial measure

6. Warnings/precaution s

If in a scientific/ egoless way we can share our experience, we can give new heights to Astrology.

Dear Neelkamal ji,

If you just say it’s typing mistake. It is sufficient, we are all brothers and sisters join this group for enhancing and sharing knowledge.

Regard’s

Yogita

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Yogita,

 

Please see below very good response of Shri Yograj Prabhakar Ji.

 

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Author: Yograj Prabhakar Ji

 

Why do remedies don't work?

 

It is a question that many of us (particularly the professional astrologers)

must have come across one time or another. Now the next question is what should

be the criteria, what should be the yardstick and what should be the exact modus

operandi to find the problematic area in a chart? I am very sorry to say

that most of the Lal Kitab practitioners are not paying complete

consideration to this segment and they often diverge from the

very principles of the Lal Kitab astrology. Their main thrust is to

recommend various remedial measures (sometime very clumsy and

undesired) that is why they lack the " killer punch " . This very

impetuosity is one of the causes for a grand failure.

 

I would like to share some of the basic principles for

analysing a chart as per Lal Kitab as taught to me by my Gurujans and

senior colleagues.

 

The very first principle while analyzing a chart is

the " Tewe Ki Darustee " , I am afraid that not many people (except Mr. Umesh

Sharma ji, Mr. Vipin Shukla ji and Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji and a

handful others) use this rectification technique. How one can do justice

with the client and this divine subject without a proper " Darustee "

of the chart? Good results can be expected once an

appropriate " Darustee " of the chart is done. Pt. Ji advised to shake the chart

2-3

times to achieve the clear picture.

 

The second very important factor is to find whether the Tewa

is " Baalig " or " Naa-Baaligh " , as Lal Kitab uses a separate process

for both of these. Even the Varsh-Phal of a " Na-Baaligh " will be

different from the normal one (please refer Varsh-Phal chart of

Lal Kitab Teesra Hissa (GuTka)-1941).

 

The third point I would like to emphasize is the " Dharmi

Tewa " characteristic of a chart. Because Lal Kitab has advise an

entirely different approach in case of a " Dharmi Tewa " . Unlike a normal

Tewa the planets in a " Dharmi-Tewa " behaves in a different way.

 

Sh. Nirmal Bhardwaj ji raised another important factor the

other day. That point is regarding " Baap-Bete ki Mushtarka Kundli " ,

particularly in case of a joint family this point is worth

considering.

 

The consideration of " Nasht Ho Chukey Grah " is also

necessary (detail of these planets are there in the revered Lal Kitab),

because in such cases remedial measures are entirely different.

 

An honest Lal Kitab astrologer always consider the " Pitri-

Rin " as a major feature, because I have seen that the natives

having " Pitri- Rin " in their charts seldom get any benefits whatsoever in spite

of performing numerous remedial measures.

 

After studying these deciding factors, the next step is to

determine the problematic area (planets). This is a very

delicate and sensitive part of analyzing the chart as per the Lal Kitab

astrology, because sometimes what we see on the paper does not reflect the

true picture. Once the malefic planets are recognized – half of the

work is done. It is utmost urgent to know the nature of the planets

in a Chart. There are various method described in detail in the

revered Lal Kitab i.e. " Budh Ka Bhed " for knowing the exact nature of

the planet Mercury and " Shani Ka Zaati Swabhao " for Saturn and so

on.

 

Even one is successful to find the exact problematic planet

in a chart, the most important thing is to determine whether the

planet (rather its effects) is remediable or not. I am talking

about " Grah- Phal " and " Rashi-Phal " , because it is said in the very beginning

of the revered Lal Kitab that " Beemari Ka Ilaaj Hai, Magar Maut Ka

Koyi Ilaaj Nahee " , it is very clear from this phrase that the " Maut "

(death) is " Grah-Phal " and is irremediable, whereas

the " Beemari " (illness) is " Rashi-Phal " and is possibly repairable. So one

should be vigilant and watchful while recommending the remedies.

 

As far as the remedies are concerned one must not expect

any miracle, although miracle does happen. The remedies are not like

any paranormal thing; it is a sort of balancing act of energies. If

the remedies are suggested and execute appropriately, it invalidates

the depressing energies and the native is blessed with positive

energies around him. It helps him to think positively, to appreciate the

situation honestly and fight the state of affairs more bravely.

It is not in the human capacity to prevent the rainfall, but the

divine umbrella of remedies unquestionably helps him to safeguard

himself from being drenched. If one can't slay a beast, he can atleast

elevate his periphery walls so that the creature could not

trespass his premises. That is the whole logic behind the remedies.

 

The classical Hindu methodology settling the affairs by

using Saam (by Dialogue), Daam (by Price), Dand (by Force) and Bhed

(by Mischief) is commonly used in the Lal Kitab remedies.

 

Saam: Appeasing a deity by worshipping for

reducing or increasing the bad or good effects of a planet.

Daam: Offering or donating articles related to a

particular planet for reducing or increasing the bad or good

effects of a planet.

Dand: Throwing, immersing, burying, or burning

articles related to a particular planet for altering the

negative effects in ones favour.

Bhed: Establishing, donating, offering or

keeping items of a particular planet, try to remove a particular

segment (as per Masnooyee Grah combination) of a malefic planet wherever

possible, establishing a common friend between two rival planets

and strengthening a planet that is believed to have the power to

level a wayward planet (e.g. Mars for Rahu) etc. reduces the malefic

effects of a malefic planet and enhance the positive results of the

suffering one.

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Dear Sunny ji,I can't thank you enough for providing this GEM from our own Shri Yograj Prabhakar ji, may god bless him a long and harmonious life to keep sharing with us the TRUE meaning of lal kitab. I often see well known "professional" astrologers (don't want to take names) jumping to conclusions without any strong base (tewa darustee) and then suggesting remedies. Infact, because of these "learned individual" lal kitab is seen as a "tool to fix anything" without realizing that Pt. ji has said clearly that it's of paramount importance to understand the planets positions and it's nature before moving forward.last time i learned something useful on this forum was the beautiful explanation done by Yograj Prabhakar ji on "dharmi tewa" and now this.once again i can't possibly express in words how fortunate students like me are to have such

excellent explanations to learn from.RegardsJitin Syal--- On Fri, 26/3/10, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote:sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 Re: Price of lal kitab 1952 edition ..... Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 0:04

 

 

Dear Yogita,

 

Please see below very good response of Shri Yograj Prabhakar Ji.

 

------------ --------- --------- ----

 

Author: Yograj Prabhakar Ji

 

Why do remedies don't work?

 

It is a question that many of us (particularly the professional astrologers) must have come across one time or another. Now the next question is what should be the criteria, what should be the yardstick and what should be the exact modus operandi to find the problematic area in a chart? I am very sorry to say

that most of the Lal Kitab practitioners are not paying complete

consideration to this segment and they often diverge from the

very principles of the Lal Kitab astrology. Their main thrust is to

recommend various remedial measures (sometime very clumsy and

undesired) that is why they lack the "killer punch". This very

impetuosity is one of the causes for a grand failure.

 

I would like to share some of the basic principles for

analysing a chart as per Lal Kitab as taught to me by my Gurujans and

senior colleagues.

 

The very first principle while analyzing a chart is

the "Tewe Ki Darustee", I am afraid that not many people (except Mr. Umesh

Sharma ji, Mr. Vipin Shukla ji and Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji and a

handful others) use this rectification technique. How one can do justice

with the client and this divine subject without a proper "Darustee"

of the chart? Good results can be expected once an

appropriate "Darustee" of the chart is done. Pt. Ji advised to shake the chart 2-3

times to achieve the clear picture.

 

The second very important factor is to find whether the Tewa

is "Baalig" or "Naa-Baaligh" , as Lal Kitab uses a separate process

for both of these. Even the Varsh-Phal of a "Na-Baaligh" will be

different from the normal one (please refer Varsh-Phal chart of

Lal Kitab Teesra Hissa (GuTka)-1941) .

 

The third point I would like to emphasize is the "Dharmi

Tewa" characteristic of a chart. Because Lal Kitab has advise an

entirely different approach in case of a "Dharmi Tewa". Unlike a normal

Tewa the planets in a "Dharmi-Tewa" behaves in a different way.

 

Sh. Nirmal Bhardwaj ji raised another important factor the

other day. That point is regarding "Baap-Bete ki Mushtarka Kundli",

particularly in case of a joint family this point is worth

considering.

 

The consideration of "Nasht Ho Chukey Grah" is also

necessary (detail of these planets are there in the revered Lal Kitab),

because in such cases remedial measures are entirely different.

 

An honest Lal Kitab astrologer always consider the "Pitri-

Rin" as a major feature, because I have seen that the natives

having "Pitri- Rin" in their charts seldom get any benefits whatsoever in spite

of performing numerous remedial measures.

 

After studying these deciding factors, the next step is to

determine the problematic area (planets). This is a very

delicate and sensitive part of analyzing the chart as per the Lal Kitab

astrology, because sometimes what we see on the paper does not reflect the

true picture. Once the malefic planets are recognized – half of the

work is done. It is utmost urgent to know the nature of the planets

in a Chart. There are various method described in detail in the

revered Lal Kitab i.e. "Budh Ka Bhed" for knowing the exact nature of

the planet Mercury and "Shani Ka Zaati Swabhao" for Saturn and so

on.

 

Even one is successful to find the exact problematic planet

in a chart, the most important thing is to determine whether the

planet (rather its effects) is remediable or not. I am talking

about "Grah- Phal" and "Rashi-Phal" , because it is said in the very beginning

of the revered Lal Kitab that "Beemari Ka Ilaaj Hai, Magar Maut Ka

Koyi Ilaaj Nahee", it is very clear from this phrase that the "Maut"

(death) is "Grah-Phal" and is irremediable, whereas

the "Beemari" (illness) is "Rashi-Phal" and is possibly repairable. So one

should be vigilant and watchful while recommending the remedies.

 

As far as the remedies are concerned one must not expect

any miracle, although miracle does happen. The remedies are not like

any paranormal thing; it is a sort of balancing act of energies. If

the remedies are suggested and execute appropriately, it invalidates

the depressing energies and the native is blessed with positive

energies around him. It helps him to think positively, to appreciate the

situation honestly and fight the state of affairs more bravely.

It is not in the human capacity to prevent the rainfall, but the

divine umbrella of remedies unquestionably helps him to safeguard

himself from being drenched. If one can't slay a beast, he can atleast

elevate his periphery walls so that the creature could not

trespass his premises. That is the whole logic behind the remedies.

 

The classical Hindu methodology settling the affairs by

using Saam (by Dialogue), Daam (by Price), Dand (by Force) and Bhed

(by Mischief) is commonly used in the Lal Kitab remedies.

 

Saam: Appeasing a deity by worshipping for

reducing or increasing the bad or good effects of a planet.

Daam: Offering or donating articles related to a

particular planet for reducing or increasing the bad or good

effects of a planet.

Dand: Throwing, immersing, burying, or burning

articles related to a particular planet for altering the

negative effects in ones favour.

Bhed: Establishing, donating, offering or

keeping items of a particular planet, try to remove a particular

segment (as per Masnooyee Grah combination) of a malefic planet wherever

possible, establishing a common friend between two rival planets

and strengthening a planet that is believed to have the power to

level a wayward planet (e.g. Mars for Rahu) etc. reduces the malefic

effects of a malefic planet and enhance the positive results of the

suffering one.