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Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM mind blowing article on nadi astrology

 

 

 

 

The science of DNA strands as per ancient Indian texts written

thousands of years before now.

 

The classic case of a Naadi astrologer trying to figure out what one

was in the previous Janma based on the leaf that has been carefully

arrived at after all deliberations with the querant makes one wonder

how this is all possible. The first question that one may ask is if

the Naadi Astrologer claims that he has information on your Previous

janma Karmas, then he must also know the exact planetary positions of

that particular Janma. If this is not possible, then the astrologer

is just talking from his imagination that can never be confirmed by

anyone.

 

Take for example the data of a particular horoscope and tally it with

what the Naadi astrologer has arrived after the deliberations. (Set

of questions that must be answered in yes and nays only.) The

horoscope and the leaf contain the same planetary configuration and

also a lot of other details. The main thing among these is the

position of moon and the lunar year in which the person in question

has taken birth. Apart from this is the Naadi amsa. Since one Naadi

amsa is of twelve minutes in a Raashi, one must follow the principle

of this naadi amsa for the calculating our previous Janmas or birth

cycles as well.

 

Once the Naadi astrologer has arrived at the exact leaf that belongs

to one person then he would know that person whose leaf is being

assessed, and has taken birth in that particular Naadi-amsa and lunar

year as well. Hence we can say that if a particular person has taken

in the first naadi amsa of Mesha Raashi or Aries (Moon sign) then we

can safely say that all the Twelve Janma cycle assigned to him shall

be of the same Naadi amsa. This Naadi amsa is synonymous with a small

speck on the thumb impression. The right thumb impression is used for

the males to arrive at his leaf and left thumb for the female.

 

Such a division itself answers a particular question for the

astrologer viz. whether the native is a male or female? What happens

to the eunuchs will be elaborated later on in this article. So, when

we know what the Naadi amsa is and what is the lunar year that a

person is born in, we can very confidently say that this particular

person is assigned a particular set of such planetary configurations

for his twelve Janma cycle. Some may ask why twelve? It is obvious

as it is in music, that there can be twelve possible lagans and twelve

Raashis only.

 

Hence every person is assigned one Raashi and a lagna in a birth

cycle. The lagna decides the day, month, and time of birth for

anybody. The Raashi or the moon's position decides the year, Varna,

or classification of species. (Universally accepted as Brahmin,

Kshatriya, Vaisya and Shudra also very much akin to the genome theory

of DNA: viz. A, G, C & T) Tthe left or right thumb impressions

already tell us of the chromosomes. These Naadi amsas are named as

well. They are 1800 in all for all the twelve raashis.

 

One such amsa is considered to be of twelve minutes and since one

degree has sixty minutes, one degree will have 5 such Naadi amsas.

Two for males, two for females, and one for eunuchs. (The order of

these need not be the same always.) Hence we can say that each

individual Soul has the capacity to or assignment of twelve birth

cycles in one shot. After each of the sixty lunar years, the axis of

earth shifts by that much to accommodate a complete shift after six

thousand years.

 

The last shift happened somewhere in the times of Sri Krishna, who is

believed to have passed away in February 3102 BC. I must state here

that we have to be very attentive to gather the information in the

right perspective as a student of astrology. For this we must take

note of all that is being told here in a systematic manner. First

thing we must take note of is the Lagna to determine the time of

birth, in relation to a perfect configuration of all the nine planets.

(This may never repeat for any individual at anytime in space, as

everything is moving in space and time.)

 

At the same time we can very easily decipher that Nakshatra and varna

may repeat for the same individual for almost all of his twelve

cycles. The same holds true for his thumb impression or Naadi amsa.

Even if one person is born as a female in one janma and male in

another and further a eunuch in another of his janma, still he may be

retained in the same set of Naadi amsas that fall under the same

degree. The lunar year also may remain the same.

 

This way it is easy for the master to assign one complete cycle called

Poorvaardha and another Uttaraardha of sixty years each. Man is given

a complete age of 120 years. Proof for this is the Dasa system. This

gives a system of what balance one carries forward and has carried

forward from previous births (if any). The subject shall now go to a

very interesting topic called Garbha shishtha- dasa.

 

It is said in our ancient texts about the evolutionary aspects of a

soul's journey thus, " The soul chooses it's own journey, a particular

time and planetary combinations, for the fructification of its karmas

and evolution itself. " It also chooses it's parents. There is going

to be one planet among the nine that shall be responsible for one's

death. The same planet shall be responsible for the re-entry of the

soul into another existence. Hence comes what we call and understand

as Garbha shishtha planet.

 

The balance of dasa bhukthis at the time of birth of a person is

nothing but the remaining portion of his/her assigned dasa at the end.

If there is no remainder then the soul may enter another cycle of

twelve or remain absolutely in oneness with the supreme soul. Hence

the Naadi amsa will in a way give a clear picture of what and where

the soul is in its journey. But only the soul itself can tell with

certainty that it is in fact anywhere. Hence to think that Naadi

astrology can also give all about one's previous Janmas etc. will be

something inexplicable.

 

Hence we must explore the facts that the Soul is on its continuous

evolutionary travels and not the vise-versa. Whatever cognizance

comes to our minds at any level of consciousness is again restricted

to our own mind, which is not in any way a soul. It may be soul's

component but definitely not the soul itself. Similarly all the

psychic and mystic claims by anybody must be reviewed in an unbiased

manner and soul's own evolution must be given more importance.

 

Once this principle is clear of what the soul wants to achieve. Or,

does it really want to achieve or is just playing around with it's own

thought (read as ego)? Is not the entire universe a result of ego of

the supreme power when it suddenly came to understand that it had

creative powers and started to create with a " Big Bang " ? Naadi

astrologers must explain this phenomenon and then make claims that

they can in fact see what has happened to somebody in the previous

janma after they are able to decipher the planetary combinations for

that particular Janma.

 

If this is not possible then everything else is farce too. Once we

can see these things then only we can really see how and which way the

principles work for us to readily agree to all claims made by the

Naadi astrologers with regards to our previous Janmas. I understand

these principles this way in order to decipher the secrets of great

sages like Bhrigu Muni and Agastya Muni, who have given us this

wonderful gift to be able look into somebody's future and past.

 

Taking one example at a time we can say that every individual may have

only one Lagna, Raashi, Nakshatra, Varna, Sex, Naadi amsa, and year of

birth. Even if all of these match perfectly for two individuals

(including the twins), still there shall be something called the

garbha shishtaa dasa that shall differ. One great exercise any good

astrologer can do is make his own horoscopes for every sixty years

that he has lived or will live in future. At no time shall he arrive

at his own horoscope combinations.

 

There shall be at least one change from the original chart as time is

constantly effecting change. Hence we must take our own charts for

say: Even if the person takes birth at different era at the same place

and time, the astrological configurations shall not match the birth

chart at any given time with that of another. This is the basic

reason for which life and it's evolution happens at an angular

projection of the Zodiac and we seem to understand its projection as

if everything is moving in a Golden Spiral of existence.

 

But that need not be put down for these reasons also. Let us feel the

entire creation through this journey of understanding the astrological

principles and not get stuck to prove or disprove anything. " The

entire universe—creation, generation and dissolution. " It is

explained in the Soundarya Lahiri commentaries that Shiva visualized

the entire universe as something to be " created " and took the

imaginary axis of this zodiac as his spine and used this tool to

release his own Kundalini energy to create the entire cosmos.

 

Shiva in union with Shakthi released the entire energy in one stroke

having pulled the axi (beginning from the 0 degree in Aswini Nakshatra

to 180 Degree of Chittra Nakshatra) in the form of a bow. This

stretching of the axis was from Aarudraa Nakshatra in the Mithuna or

the constellation of stars in the Gemini right till the Sagittarius or

Dhanusha. Rahu is given the exalted position in astrology in the sign

of Gemini and hence Kethu is at the base level of Dhanusha or Sagittarius.

 

This phenomenon happened at a time when it was neither night nor day.

Hence the Bhaava Madhya of Dhanusha and Mithuna become starting point

of time, zodiac, music, cosmic and astrological principles. The names

assigned to these points are also of great importance as Kethu's

position was Moolaa or root and the Raahu was at the centre of the

Skull position. Moolaa is the base position where the Kundalini

energy is coiled in created forms (Kundaliniyoga and Hatha Yoga) and

is in a way, a completion of what creator has perceived as its own

manifestation.

 

So, to say that Rahu and Kethu were planets will be unacceptable to

many of us as we also can justify many things this way. Rahu and

Kethu shall remain to be Chhaayaa Graahas or shadow planets only.

They do not really exist in the way our friend has explained in his

imaginative article on Rahu and Kethu. The syllables `Raa' of Rahu

and `Si' of Sikhi have combined to give us what we call as Raasi or a

sign of zodiac. I shall request all students of astrology not to get

carried away by their imaginations and also read a lot on how the

planets were really created as per Hindu mythological texts called

Shaastra.

 

The rotation of Venus being `Apasavya' or anticlockwise is also

heavily debatable. It has got nothing to do with any collision. In

Navagraha Kosha it is clearly mentioned that Venus was born out of the

Semen of Lord Shiva and hence it has qualities of rebellious forces.

It's rotation being in another direction is not due to any collision,

but due it's basic nature that it has taken at the time of inception.

It is something like the " wheels of a moving car or any vehicle that

appears to be going in the reverse direction when we see in a film. "

 

Visual illusion. But in Venus's' case it is a natural phenomenon that

has a specific purpose to fulfill in the universe. Readers must make

no mistake about this thing: that if any small or big object ever

collides with another object having different orbits, shall trigger of

a complete destruction of both or the entire solar system or even

worse the entire universe. This is also very subjective, indeed.

Even the greatest of scientists will never be in a position to say

conclusively that the Universe we dwell in is actually in a path of

expansion still or it has started its path of contraction.

 

At some point everything takes an abstract shape. Any form of

knowledge when it starts to stagnate, triggers of the need in the

seeker to look within for an answer. I hope all astrologers or

students of astrology also take a cue form this and not indulge into

criticizing this ancient art and science of Naadi astrology.

, " netpostingid "

<netpostingid wrote:

>

> Different people get different experience in one particular centre.

> It Doesn't mean that one is liar and other is honest. At the end of

> day, its your experience. Thats all.

>

> Don't be so rude like that. Are you a promoter of that centre or are

> you relative of that astrologer. Then why should you get hurt when

> someone shares their negative experience. You don't have any rights

> to tell other person is a liar. Just share your experience and

> knowledge. Thats more than enough. STOP COMMENTING ON OTHERS.

>

> People are smart enough to do their research and they will select

> their Nadi centre.

>

>

> , sebastian j <jsebastian88@>

> wrote:

> >

> > mr.senthil

> > do you think i am a jobless guy. i have great

> passion for nadi astrology. why should i come with you and prove

> authencity of nadi prediction by great sage agastya.its upto you and

> people to beleive the nadi astrology. i can prove without coming with

> you . follow the link below. to see the authencity of that

> kanchipuram naadi astrologer.

> >

> > http://nageshkumarcs.blogspot.com/2006/09/kancheepuram-temples-and-

> nadi_26.html

> >

> > http://nageshkumarcs.blogspot.com/2006/09/kancheepuram-part-2-nadi-

> astrologers.html

> >

> > and read research on nadi astrology by K.B.gopala krishnan in the

> file section of this forum. he got his lagna from nadi astrologer.

> and his views on ascendent calculation from thumb print. try to read

> another article on nadi astrology by sri lankan university in the

> file section of this forum.

> > read rayudu's experience on how he got his lagna in his website.

> >

> > in this forum itself we have two people who went to same nadi

> astrologer in kanchipuram who got their nadi leaf and exact details

> of their horoscope. ask dhinakar rajaraman, and vijayakumar. they too

> went to same astrolger d..balasubramanium in kanchipuram. they gave

> only thier thumb impression and got their reading right.

> >

> > try to read the book " thumb print- mirror of fate " on how lagna

> can be calculated from thumb alone is given clearly. so i got my

> lagna from kanchipuram astrologer. AND I AM DAMN SURE THAT YOU ARE

> LYING ABOUT THAT MAN. IF I , DHINAKR RAJARAM , VIJAYA KUMAR CAN GET

> CORRECT PREDCITION AND HOROSCOPE FROM KANCHIPURAM ASTROLGER WHY CANT

> YOU?!!!!!!

> > THIS SHOWS YOUR ARE LYING!!!!

> >

> > OF COURSE NO ONE CAN COMMENT ON OTHERS VIEWS BUT I HAVE RIGHTS TO

> COMMENT ON " LIES " .

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 9/6/08, S " elva kumar <selvaneedhy@> wrote:

> >

> > > Selva kumar <selvaneedhy@>

> > > Re: Re: Reputed Naadi Atrologer in

> Chennai( WARNING to selvanidhi)

> > >

> > > Saturday, September 6, 2008, 2:23 AM

> > > Mr. Sebastian,

> > >

> > > Dont use unwanted words.

> > >

> > > If you dont have any rights to comment on others view.

> > >

> > > I told my experience. thats all.

> > >

> > > If you have guts, come with me .we will go to kanchipuram

> > > and i will prove it .

> > >

> > > why should i tell lies. i am not predictor.I have lot of

> > > works.

> > >

> > > tell me when shall we go.

> > >

> > > Still i believe in that.but there may be some mistakes.

> > > that wat i asked you. you are u getting angry.

> > >

> > > Or I challange .you tell me my past happend from my thumb

> > > impression ..I dnt want future.

> > > IF you tell my past, really i will give you wat everu want.

> > >

> > > Dnt hurt anybodys feelings.

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 5/9/08, jsebastian88

> > > <jsebastian88@> wrote:

> > >

> > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@>

> > > Re: Reputed Naadi Atrologer in

> > > Chennai( WARNING to selvanidhi)

> > >

> > > Friday, 5 September, 2008, 9:09 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > SELVANIDHI SHAME ON YOU.

> > > you went to kanchipuram and you lost note book and

> > > cassette.why are

> > > you lying that they searched your kandams from morning to

> > > evening.no

> > > one will give your kandam predictions without some basic

> > > information

> > > present in general chapter. how can they search your

> > > kandams without

> > > general chapter.THIS PROVES your are lying.that too they

> > > are searching

> > > for your kandams from morning to evening. lie lie lie.

> > >

> > > ANOTHER LIE YOU REPLIED TO ME IS.

> > >

> > > YOUR FRIEND WENT TO KANCHIPURAM AND NADI ASTROLOGER ASKED

> > > HIS DATE OF

> > > BIRTH . HEY FOOL TO WHOM YOU ARE LYING. THEY WILL NEVER ASK

> > > YOU DATE

> > > OF BIRTH AND ANY THING EXCEPT YOUR THUMB PRINT AND INTIALS.

> > > FOR ME

> > > THEY TOLD EVERYTHING INCLUDING LAGNA MORON. I THINK YOUR A

> > > JEALUOSY

> > > NADI ASTROLOGER UNDER DISGUISE TRYING TO DEFAME KANCHIPURAM

> > > NADI

> > > ASTROLOGER.

> > >

> > > LAGNA CAN OBTAINED FROM THUM PRINT ITSELF. TRY TO READ

> > > ARTICLE

> > > WRITTEN BY K.B.GOPALAKRIHNAN IN THIS FORUM

> > > DEAR MEMBERS DONT BELEIVE THIS LIAR. IT IS UP TO YOU TO

> > > BELIEVE THIS

> > > KANCHIPURAM ASTROLOGER IS TRUE OR NOT.

> > >

> > > LIKE ME THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM WHO WENT TO

> > > KANCHIPURAM

> > > NADI ASTROLOGERS ARE DHINAKAR RAJARAM AND VIJAYA KUMAR. ASK

> > > THEM THEY

> > > WILL TELL YOU HOW KANCHIPURAM NADI ASTROLOGER DOING IT

> > > FINE.

> > >

> > > -- In , Selva kumar

> > > <selvaneedhy@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear sebastian sir,

> > > > Â

> > > > Â

> > > > thanks for ur guidance.

> > > > Â

> > > > i went to kanchipuram in 1996 and got general a. but i

> > > missed that

> > > note book and cassette. As per your guidance again I went

> > > to

> > > kanchipuram to see my some particular gaandams and i told

> > > them that i

> > > already visited here.they asked me to wait and they were

> > > telling that

> > > we are searching. but finally in the evening they informed

> > > me that

> > > leaves not available now ,you come back next month. and

> > > also they

> > > asked me to try to bring old book.

> > > > Â

> > > > In same day , my friend got his leaves. But they asked

> > > his date of

> > > birth and many details while reading the leaves. they told

> > > his

> > > horoscope details except lagna. when we asked they told it

> > > is not

> > > available.basically we dont have any horoscope even correct

> > > date and

> > > time of birth.

> > > > Â

> > > > please guide me to proceed further.

> > > > Â

> > > > we are in urgency to finalize some matter in our life.

> > > > Â

> > > > Â

> > > > thanks and regards

> > > >

> > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@

> > > ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ ...>

> > > > Re: Reputed Naadi Atrologer

> > > in Chennai

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:21 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yes go to agastya nadi astrology in kanchipuram

> > > astrologer name

> > > > d.balasubramanium.

> > > >

> > > > , " Rajesh

> > > Jayaraman "

> > > > <rajeshjay@ ..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be in Chennai for a couple of weeks and

> > > wanted to know if:

> > > > >

> > > > > a> Anyone in the group recommends any reputed

> > > Naadi Astrologer

> > > > >

> > > > > b> Do I need to setup an appointment?

> > > > >

> > > > > THanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rajesh

> > > > >

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