Fwd: [Astronomy_Activities_2009] Survey Report on Astrology

[Guest guest]

Astronomy_Activities_2009 , Manoj Pai

<manojpai wrote:

 

Astrologers can be booked under Section 505(1)(b) of the Indian Penal

Code (IPC) for spreading rumors, like it happened in Ahmedabad in

2001. Check link

 

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4577733.html

 

This is a cognizible offence which amount to mischief and punishable

upto three years in prison. You can also book them U/s 420 for

cheating. A client can even sue an astrologer under Indian Consumer

Act and allied laws, for " failed prediction " !

 

Since Rathna has ruled, that no astrology bashing should take place

on this forum, I am not posting anything more here. Maybe we can

exchange communications by direct mails.

 

Manoj

 

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote:

 

Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved

[Astronomy_Activities_2009] Re: Survey Report on Astrology

Astronomy_Activities_2009

Monday, October 20, 2008, 3:07 PM

 

 

Regarding astrologers suing for intrusion of privacy, I think, on the

other hand, astrologers must be sued for making all the wrong

predictions or for that matter, for making no predictions at all! For

example, no astrologer had predicted about any devastating floods in

the country nor about the share market crash nor about the scourge of

terrorism etc. etc. Why do they call themselves " Bhvishya-vakta " if

they cannot predict anything before hand about the country!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

WAVES-Vedic , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Shri Surendra N. Pandeyji,

Namaskar!

<I became so sick of reading atrology bashing that I had stopped

reading these postings>

 

I appreciate your frustration. Yes, too much of everything is bad!

That applies to too much of " silence " and even " deafness " as well!

 

I am bashing astrology only because it is Vedic astrology (sic!) that

is compelling us to celebrate all our festivals and muhurtas on wrong

days! It has been explained by me times without number!

 

Surprisingly, people are either for or agaisnt astrology, but nobody

is commenting anything about the festivals being celebrated on wrong

days! Don't you think it is a bit too much of " silence " ? Maybe

ultimately, I will have to conclude that my efforts to awaken

the " Vedic Hindu " community to this anachronism are like casting

pearls before swine!

 

I may even have to conclude that there is a bit of too much

of " defness " around about the real Vedic matters like

" svararkameke somarkav yada sakam sa vasavav, syat tad aadiyugam

maghas tapah shuklo hi ayanam udak " !

i.e " When the sun and moon while moving in the sky, come to

Dhanishtha star together, then the yuga, Magha (month), the Tapas

(season), the light half of the month, Uttarayana (winter solstice)

all commence together " ---Rik Jyotisham 5th mantra--S. B. Dikshit's

translation.

Instead of on the shortest day of the year---that is around December

21--- we are celebrating Uttarayana and Magha etc. on January 15

these days! Same is the case with all the other festivals and

muhurtas! It is ony because " Vedic astrology " has enveloped us

in " tamoguni budhi " ---seeing dharma as adharma and adhrma as dharma---

as per the Gita--that we cannot differentiate between the real Vedic

Uttarayana and the unrea Lahiri Uttarayana!

Do you think I should just be a " mooka darshak " instead of disturbing

the " peace of mind " of some people by stating some unpleasant truths

as to how our real Vedic culture is being placed upside down?

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

WAVES-Vedic , " Surendra N. Pandey "

<pandeysn@> wrote:

>

> I became so sick of reading atrology bashing that I had stopped

reading these postings ---I just deleted them without reading. By

chance I read today's posting and was pleased to read that astrology

bashing has been stopped. Not that I am a strong believer in

astrology, it's just that we need better/new contents than enhance

our knowledge and understanding. Reading just the negative remarks

about something can get tiring and boring.

>

>

>

> --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@> wrote:

>

> Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@>

> [WAVES-Vedic] Fwd: Re: [Astronomy_Activities_2009] Re:

Survey Report on Astrology

> waves-Vedic

> Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 5:51 AM

Astronomy_Activitie s_2009@grou ps.com, Manoj Pai

> <manojpai@ .> wrote:

>

> Astrologers can be booked under Section 505(1)(b) of the Indian

Penal

> Code (IPC) for spreading rumors, like it happened in Ahmedabad in

> 2001. Check link

>

> http://www.highbeam .com/doc/ 1P2-4577733. html

>

> This is a cognizible offence which amount to mischief and

punishable

> upto three years in prison. You can also book them U/s 420 for

> cheating. A client can even sue an astrologer under Indian Consumer

> Act and allied laws, for " failed prediction " !

>

> Since Rathna has ruled, that no astrology bashing should take place

> on this forum, I am not posting anything more here. Maybe we can

> exchange communications by direct mails.

>

> Manoj

>

> --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@ ..> wrote:

>

> Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@ ..>

> [Astronomy_Activiti es_2009] Re: Survey Report on Astrology

> Astronomy_Activitie s_2009@grou ps.com

> Monday, October 20, 2008, 3:07 PM

>

>

> Regarding astrologers suing for intrusion of privacy, I think, on

the

> other hand, astrologers must be sued for making all the wrong

> predictions or for that matter, for making no predictions at all!

For

> example, no astrologer had predicted about any devastating floods

in

> the country nor about the share market crash nor about the scourge

of

> terrorism etc. etc. Why do they call themselves " Bhvishya-vakta " if

> they cannot predict anything before hand about the country!

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

>

> http://mail.

>

>

[Guest guest]

He has got only two loose wires in his outdated musical banjo

instrument, which he keeps on touching constantly thinking that it

produces a audible melodious tune, which is far from the truth.

 

" Wrong date of festivals " and " Fake vedic astrology " .

 

He has no other music known to him.

 

I will come back later to provide him the arguments he so much seeks

for.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tune, , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

>

> WAVES-Vedic , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

> jyotirved@ wrote:

>

> Shri Surendra N. Pandeyji,

> Namaskar!

> <I became so sick of reading atrology bashing that I had stopped

> reading these postings>

>

> I appreciate your frustration. Yes, too much of everything is bad!

> That applies to too much of " silence " and even " deafness " as well!

>

> I am bashing astrology only because it is Vedic astrology (sic!) that

> is compelling us to celebrate all our festivals and muhurtas on wrong

> days! It has been explained by me times without number!

>

> Surprisingly, people are either for or agaisnt astrology, but nobody

> is commenting anything about the festivals being celebrated on wrong

> days! Don't you think it is a bit too much of " silence " ? Maybe

> ultimately, I will have to conclude that my efforts to awaken

> the " Vedic Hindu " community to this anachronism are like casting

> pearls before swine!

>

> I may even have to conclude that there is a bit of too much

> of " defness " around about the real Vedic matters like

> " svararkameke somarkav yada sakam sa vasavav, syat tad aadiyugam

> maghas tapah shuklo hi ayanam udak " !

> i.e " When the sun and moon while moving in the sky, come to

> Dhanishtha star together, then the yuga, Magha (month), the Tapas

> (season), the light half of the month, Uttarayana (winter solstice)

> all commence together " ---Rik Jyotisham 5th mantra--S. B. Dikshit's

> translation.

> Instead of on the shortest day of the year---that is around December

> 21--- we are celebrating Uttarayana and Magha etc. on January 15

> these days! Same is the case with all the other festivals and

> muhurtas! It is ony because " Vedic astrology " has enveloped us

> in " tamoguni budhi " ---seeing dharma as adharma and adhrma as dharma---

> as per the Gita--that we cannot differentiate between the real Vedic

> Uttarayana and the unrea Lahiri Uttarayana!

> Do you think I should just be a " mooka darshak " instead of disturbing

> the " peace of mind " of some people by stating some unpleasant truths

> as to how our real Vedic culture is being placed upside down?

> With regards,

> A K Kaul

>

> WAVES-Vedic , " Surendra N. Pandey "

> <pandeysn@> wrote:

> >

> > I became so sick of reading atrology bashing that I had stopped

> reading these postings ---I just deleted them without reading. By

> chance I read today's posting and was pleased to read that astrology

> bashing has been stopped. Not that I am a strong believer in

> astrology, it's just that we need better/new contents than enhance

> our knowledge and understanding. Reading just the negative remarks

> about something can get tiring and boring.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@> wrote:

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@>

> > [WAVES-Vedic] Fwd: Re: [Astronomy_Activities_2009] Re:

> Survey Report on Astrology

> > waves-Vedic

> > Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 5:51 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astronomy_Activitie s_2009@grou ps.com, Manoj Pai

> > <manojpai@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Astrologers can be booked under Section 505(1)(b) of the Indian

> Penal

> > Code (IPC) for spreading rumors, like it happened in Ahmedabad in

> > 2001. Check link

> >

> > http://www.highbeam .com/doc/ 1P2-4577733. html

> >

> > This is a cognizible offence which amount to mischief and

> punishable

> > upto three years in prison. You can also book them U/s 420 for

> > cheating. A client can even sue an astrologer under Indian Consumer

> > Act and allied laws, for " failed prediction " !

> >

> > Since Rathna has ruled, that no astrology bashing should take place

> > on this forum, I am not posting anything more here. Maybe we can

> > exchange communications by direct mails.

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> > --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@ ..>

> > [Astronomy_Activiti es_2009] Re: Survey Report on Astrology

> > Astronomy_Activitie s_2009@grou ps.com

> > Monday, October 20, 2008, 3:07 PM

> >

> >

> > Regarding astrologers suing for intrusion of privacy, I think, on

> the

> > other hand, astrologers must be sued for making all the wrong

> > predictions or for that matter, for making no predictions at all!

> For

> > example, no astrologer had predicted about any devastating floods

> in

> > the country nor about the share market crash nor about the scourge

> of

> > terrorism etc. etc. Why do they call themselves " Bhvishya-vakta " if

> > they cannot predict anything before hand about the country!

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> >

> >

> > http://mail.

> >

> >