Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 dear grp i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it . regrds sreedhar - if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are supposed to be have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested. blessings In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or gods. This view, at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain god', `sun god', etc. the Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he contented himself with merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium of these views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard: On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at Jetavana at Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, was seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza: i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My adoration to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge." Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus: ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of beings)." Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza. iii. "Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you come trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?" "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me to release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would have split into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. (Therefore I released Candima)." // Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection //Thus have I heard: On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at Jetavana at Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, was seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza: i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My adoration to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge." Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of Asuras, on behalf of Suriya thus: ii. "O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the Consummate One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of beings). iii. "O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining one, the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, release Suriya, my son." Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza: iv. "Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you come trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?" "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me release Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. (Therefore I released Suriya)."// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, Namaskar! You have said, " i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it. " What is the date, at least the exact year, of brith of Bhagvan Budha accoding to you? Secodly, in the passage quoted by you, there is not any mention of any planet but the Sun and the Moon which were known as lights and not as planets! Similarly, even today, none of the astronomers nor astrologers, accept Rahu as a planet but as a node and even " chhaya- graha " . You have also said: <Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus: ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of beings). " Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza> It appears niether the " Blessed One " referred to in those works knew nor you know even a bit of geagraphy since if the Moon/Sun are/were " releasted " by " Rahu " only after the " Blessed One " addresses a stanza to it, the Moon/Sun should have been in its grip ever since the " Blessed One " left for " His heavenly abode " . I wonder as to how long will " Vedic jyotishis " continue to make a fool of a common man by such snippets and tidbits! God only can save the Hindu community from " Vedic Jyotishis " ! Dhanyavad. A K Kaul , " sreedhar.nambiar " <sreedhar.nambiar wrote: > > > dear grp > > > > i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm srilanka ,so this > is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts with max > reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it . > > > > regrds sreedhar > > - > > if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are supposed to be > have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested. > blessings > In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or gods. > This view, > > at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain > god', `sun god', etc. the > > Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he contented > himself with > > merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium of these > views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera > > > The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard: > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at Jetavana at > Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, was > seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed > One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza: > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My adoration > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of Asuras, on > behalf of Candima, thus: > > ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the > world (of beings). " > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood > beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then > Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza. > > iii. " Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you come > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me to > release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would have split > into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. > (Therefore I released Candima). " // > > > Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection > //Thus have I heard: > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at Jetavana at > Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, was > seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed > One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza: > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My adoration > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of Asuras, on > behalf of Suriya thus: > > ii. " O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the Consummate > One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of > beings). > > iii. " O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining one, > the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, release > Suriya, my son. " > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately came to > the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him > trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta > addressed Rahu in this stanza: > > iv. " Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you come > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me release > Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split into > seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. > (Therefore I released Suriya). " // > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Kaul ji pls use the below information too ==================================== If you can listen to the following where you get all 28 names of past buddhas. It is a short pirith..would not take much time. But I don't know if your connection is slow. http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3 blessings ====================== and now u can strt dating ,hating and even distorting on each budhas ,it will b a fun for u also if u hav more free time pls help dating and finding the truth abt a budhist stupa like structure in indus valley finding and it says it is abov 5000 yrs old .so u can help them those archeological community senting all ur messges . also help the reserchers how this connection happened the vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic and pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic ppl has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even vedas never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).so help them to unravel this mystery and see how vedic texts adopted this knowledge frm mlecha sources and called even the Lord of knowledge as saraswathi .(also read mlechavikalpa praised in MBH) but make sure alwys stay tuned to ur wilful mission all the best regrds sreedhar . , "Avtar Krishen Kaul" <jyotirved wrote:>> Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji,> Namaskar!> You have said, "i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm > srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all > budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins > distorted it."> > What is the date, at least the exact year, of brith of Bhagvan Budha > accoding to you? > Secodly, in the passage quoted by you, there is not any mention of > any planet but the Sun and the Moon which were known as lights and > not as planets! Similarly, even today, none of the astronomers nor > astrologers, accept Rahu as a planet but as a node and even "chhaya-> graha".> You have also said:> <Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus: > ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the> Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on > the world (of beings)."> Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and> immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and > stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. > Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza>> > It appears niether the "Blessed One" referred to in those works knew > nor you know even a bit of geagraphy since if the Moon/Sun > are/were "releasted" by "Rahu" only after the "Blessed One" addresses > a stanza to it, the Moon/Sun should have been in its grip ever since > the "Blessed One" left for "His heavenly abode".> > I wonder as to how long will "Vedic jyotishis" continue to make a > fool of a common man by such snippets and tidbits! God only can save > the Hindu community from "Vedic Jyotishis"!> Dhanyavad.> A K Kaul> > , "sreedhar.nambiar" > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote:> >> > > > dear grp> > > > > > > > i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm srilanka ,so > this> > is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts > with max> > reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it .> > > > > > > > regrds sreedhar> > > > -> > > > if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are supposed to > be> > have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested.> > blessings> > In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or > gods.> > This view,> > > > at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain> > god', `sun god', etc. the> > > > Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he > contented> > himself with> > > > merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium of > these> > views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera> > > > > > The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard:> > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at > Jetavana at> > Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, was> > seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed> > One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza:> > > > i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > adoration> > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge."> > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > Asuras, on> > behalf of Candima, thus:> > > > ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the> > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on > the> > world (of beings)."> > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and> > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and > stood> > beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then> > Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza.> > > > iii. "Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you come> > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?"> > > > "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me to> > release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would have > split> > into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness.> > (Therefore I released Candima)." //> > > > > > Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection> > //Thus have I heard:> > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at > Jetavana at> > Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, was> > seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the > Blessed> > One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza:> > > > i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > adoration> > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge."> > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > Asuras, on> > behalf of Suriya thus:> > > > ii. "O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > Consummate> > One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of> > beings).> > > > iii. "O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining > one,> > the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, release> > Suriya, my son."> > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately > came to> > the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him> > trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta> > addressed Rahu in this stanza:> > > > iv. "Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you come> > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?"> > > > "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me > release> > Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split into> > seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness.> > (Therefore I released Suriya)."//> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, Namaskar! <If you can listen to the following where you get all 28 names of past buddhas> The Gita has said, " Bahooni me vyateetani, janmani tava cha arjuna taani aham vedmi sarvani na tvam vettha parantapa " i.e. " O Arjuna, both of us have had several janmas. I know them all but you do not know them " . If Gautama the Budha has had 28 janmas, that is nothing new as per Hindu philosophy! It is also possible that He remembered/recalled all His janmas. < and now u can start dating ,hating and even distorting on each budhas> I have read in History books that Gautama the Budha was a contemporary of Vardhaman Mahavira, the founder of Jainism. Jainese also claim that Mahavira had had several incarnations as Tirthankaras. So do the budhists about Gautama the Budha! The Budha we are talking about is said to have " incarnated " around 2500 BCE. So is the case with Mahavira. As such, I do not know what you mean by the above statement! It appears that you are actually projecting your hate to others and distorting the facts yourself! <budhist stupa like structure in indus valley finding and it says it is abov 5000 yrs old> If Gautama the Budha had appeared around 2500 BCE, it is just possible that a stupa was erected in his " honour " and that stupa could be of around 4500 years old! So what is so surprising about it? <also help the reserchers how this connection happened the vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic and pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic ppl has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even vedas never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).> Quite a few Budhist scholars--some of them from Leh in J & K---are doing a lot of research about the real/actual date of Gautama the Budha. The " Leh gentleman " got some details about eclipses/New Moons/Full Moons from me for a period of 2600 BCE to 2200 BCE, to ascertain the actual date of the Budha. Cuniforms/clay tablets are from Chaldea/Babylonia, which is known as Iraq these days! It is because of their fatal infatuation with astrology that they came to such a plight! Do you want India also to have a similar fate? BTW, can you quote even a single " mahavakya " from Gautama the Budha where he has advised his followers to be taken in by astrologers' hoaxes? To the best of my knowledg, the Budha has advised against falling into the trap of such " shamans " etc. And YOU ARE JUST GOING AGAINST HIS TEACHINGS BY ADVOCATING THE FRAUD KNOWN AS VEDIC ASTROLOGY, BUT CLAIMING TO BE A FOLLOWER OF BUDHISM! And that is where you are exactly like all the other " Vedic astrologers " ---practising predictive gimmicks on the shoulders of those very shastras that have deplored such tactics! Dhanyavad. A K Kaul , " sreedhar.nambiar " <sreedhar.nambiar wrote: > > Kaul ji pls use the below information too > ==================================== If you can listen to the > following where you get all 28 names of past buddhas. It is a short > pirith..would not take much time. But I don't know if your connection > is slow. http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3 > <http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3> > blessings ====================== and now u can strt dating ,hating > and even distorting on each budhas ,it will b a fun for u also if u hav > more free time pls help dating and finding the truth abt a budhist stupa > like structure in indus valley finding and it says it is abov 5000 yrs > old .so u can help them those archeological community senting all ur > messges . also help the reserchers how this connection happened the > vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic and > pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic ppl > has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even vedas > never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).so help them to unravel > this mystery and see how vedic texts adopted this knowledge frm mlecha > sources and called even the Lord of knowledge as saraswathi .(also read > mlechavikalpa praised in MBH) but make sure alwys stay tuned to ur > wilful mission > > > all the best > > > > regrds sreedhar . > > , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, > > Namaskar! > > You have said, " i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm > > srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all > > budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins > > distorted it. " > > > > What is the date, at least the exact year, of brith of Bhagvan Budha > > accoding to you? > > Secodly, in the passage quoted by you, there is not any mention of > > any planet but the Sun and the Moon which were known as lights and > > not as planets! Similarly, even today, none of the astronomers nor > > astrologers, accept Rahu as a planet but as a node and even " chhaya- > > graha " . > > You have also said: > > <Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus: > > ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on > > the world (of beings). " > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and > > stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. > > Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza> > > > > It appears niether the " Blessed One " referred to in those works knew > > nor you know even a bit of geagraphy since if the Moon/Sun > > are/were " releasted " by " Rahu " only after the " Blessed One " addresses > > a stanza to it, the Moon/Sun should have been in its grip ever since > > the " Blessed One " left for " His heavenly abode " . > > > > I wonder as to how long will " Vedic jyotishis " continue to make a > > fool of a common man by such snippets and tidbits! God only can save > > the Hindu community from " Vedic Jyotishis " ! > > Dhanyavad. > > A K Kaul > > > > , " sreedhar.nambiar " > > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > > > > > > > i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm srilanka ,so > > this > > > is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts > > with max > > > reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sreedhar > > > > > > ------------------------------- --- > > > > > > if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are supposed to > > be > > > have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested. > > > blessings > > > In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or > > gods. > > > This view, > > > > > > at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain > > > god', `sun god', etc. the > > > > > > Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he > > contented > > > himself with > > > > > > merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium of > > these > > > views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera > > > > > > > > > The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard: > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at > > Jetavana at > > > Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, was > > > seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the Blessed > > > One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza: > > > > > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > > adoration > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > > > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > Asuras, on > > > behalf of Candima, thus: > > > > > > ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on > > the > > > world (of beings). " > > > > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and > > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and > > stood > > > beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then > > > Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza. > > > > > > iii. " Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you come > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > > > > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me to > > > release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would have > > split > > > into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. > > > (Therefore I released Candima). " // > > > > > > > > > Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection > > > //Thus have I heard: > > > > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at > > Jetavana at > > > Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, was > > > seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the > > Blessed > > > One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza: > > > > > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > > adoration > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > > > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > Asuras, on > > > behalf of Suriya thus: > > > > > > ii. " O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > Consummate > > > One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the world (of > > > beings). > > > > > > iii. " O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining > > one, > > > the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, release > > > Suriya, my son. " > > > > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately > > came to > > > the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him > > > trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then Vepacitta > > > addressed Rahu in this stanza: > > > > > > iv. " Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you come > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > > > > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me > > release > > > Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split into > > > seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. > > > (Therefore I released Suriya). " // > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Kaulji I am yet to come across authentic statemnt frm Lord Budha that he was against astrology .Wat he said is even if he says the sisyas shud not accept anything unless they also exprnce it . where as i heard some sanyasi predicted when budha born that either he will b a chakravarty (king of kings )or a gr8 saint .Also bhagavan budha possess 32 chakravorty lakhshana.can u tell me ur idea abt wat is it . so many budhist monks esp tibetan/nepalies monks also practise astrology and mind reading technics etc . regrds sreedhar nambiar How come The so called veda and saraswathy connection u dont seems to care abt it ??how it happened ,what is ur idea abt swastika ?? why it is used in saraswathi civilisation . There were so many instance abt how saraswathi ppl has been influenced sumerian ,babylonian and minovan (pre alexander greek ) cultures.why u r silent abt it .Or r u happy that all came frm jews and west . can u show one text of vedic ppl in reality -i mean proof with authenticity ( ur so called vedic -as ur loc ( line of control ) is that much only ) and that they knows LIPI and they wrote in that . , "Avtar Krishen Kaul" <jyotirved wrote:>> Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji,> Namaskar!> <If you can listen to the following where you get all 28 names of > past buddhas>> > The Gita has said, "Bahooni me vyateetani, janmani tava cha arjuna> taani aham vedmi sarvani na tvam vettha parantapa"> > i.e. > "O Arjuna, both of us have had several janmas. I know them all but > you do not know them".> If Gautama the Budha has had 28 janmas, that is nothing new as per > Hindu philosophy! It is also possible that He remembered/recalled > all His janmas.> > < and now u can start dating ,hating and even distorting on each > budhas>> I have read in History books that Gautama the Budha was a > contemporary of Vardhaman Mahavira, the founder of Jainism. Jainese > also claim that Mahavira had had several incarnations as > Tirthankaras. So do the budhists about Gautama the Budha! The Budha > we are talking about is said to have "incarnated" around 2500 BCE. > So is the case with Mahavira. As such, I do not know what you mean > by the above statement! It appears that you are actually projecting > your hate to others and distorting the facts yourself!> > <budhist stupa like structure in indus valley finding and it says it > is abov 5000 yrs old>> If Gautama the Budha had appeared around 2500 BCE, it is just > possible that a stupa was erected in his "honour" and that stupa > could be of around 4500 years old! So what is so surprising about it?> > <also help the reserchers how this connection happened the> vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic and> pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic ppl> has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even vedas> never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).>> Quite a few Budhist scholars--some of them from Leh in J & K---are > doing a lot of research about the real/actual date of Gautama the > Budha. The "Leh gentleman" got some details about eclipses/New > Moons/Full Moons from me for a period of 2600 BCE to 2200 BCE, to > ascertain the actual date of the Budha.> Cuniforms/clay tablets are from Chaldea/Babylonia, which is known as > Iraq these days! It is because of their fatal infatuation with > astrology that they came to such a plight! Do you want India also to > have a similar fate?> BTW, can you quote even a single "mahavakya" from Gautama the Budha > where he has advised his followers to be taken in by astrologers' > hoaxes? To the best of my knowledg, the Budha has advised against > falling into the trap of such "shamans" etc. And YOU ARE JUST GOING > AGAINST HIS TEACHINGS BY ADVOCATING THE FRAUD KNOWN AS VEDIC > ASTROLOGY, BUT CLAIMING TO BE A FOLLOWER OF BUDHISM!> And that is where you are exactly like all the other "Vedic > astrologers"---practising predictive gimmicks on the shoulders of > those very shastras that have deplored such tactics!> Dhanyavad.> A K Kaul> > , "sreedhar.nambiar" > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote:> >> > Kaul ji pls use the below information too > > ==================================== If you can listen to the> > following where you get all 28 names of past buddhas. It is a short> > pirith..would not take much time. But I don't know if your > connection> > is slow. > http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3> > <http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3> > > blessings ====================== and now u can strt > dating ,hating> > and even distorting on each budhas ,it will b a fun for u also if > u hav> > more free time pls help dating and finding the truth abt a budhist > stupa> > like structure in indus valley finding and it says it is abov 5000 > yrs> > old .so u can help them those archeological community senting all ur> > messges . also help the reserchers how this connection happened > the> > vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic > and> > pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic > ppl> > has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even > vedas> > never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).so help them to > unravel> > this mystery and see how vedic texts adopted this knowledge frm > mlecha> > sources and called even the Lord of knowledge as saraswathi .(also > read> > mlechavikalpa praised in MBH) but make sure alwys stay tuned to > ur> > wilful mission> > > > > > all the best> > > > > > > > regrds sreedhar .> > > > , "Avtar Krishen Kaul"> > <jyotirved@> wrote:> > >> > > Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji,> > > Namaskar!> > > You have said, "i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks > frm> > > srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps > all> > > budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins> > > distorted it."> > >> > > What is the date, at least the exact year, of brith of Bhagvan > Budha> > > accoding to you?> > > Secodly, in the passage quoted by you, there is not any mention of> > > any planet but the Sun and the Moon which were known as lights and> > > not as planets! Similarly, even today, none of the astronomers nor> > > astrologers, accept Rahu as a planet but as a node and > even "chhaya-> > > graha".> > > You have also said:> > > <Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of> > > Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus:> > > ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the> > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on> > > the world (of beings)."> > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and> > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and> > > stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on > end.> > > Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza>> > >> > > It appears niether the "Blessed One" referred to in those works > knew> > > nor you know even a bit of geagraphy since if the Moon/Sun> > > are/were "releasted" by "Rahu" only after the "Blessed One" > addresses> > > a stanza to it, the Moon/Sun should have been in its grip ever > since> > > the "Blessed One" left for "His heavenly abode".> > >> > > I wonder as to how long will "Vedic jyotishis" continue to make a> > > fool of a common man by such snippets and tidbits! God only can > save> > > the Hindu community from "Vedic Jyotishis"!> > > Dhanyavad.> > > A K Kaul> > >> > > , "sreedhar.nambiar"> > > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear grp> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm > srilanka ,so> > > this> > > > is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts> > > with max> > > > reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sreedhar> > > >> > > > -------------------------------> ---> > > >> > > > if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are > supposed to> > > be> > > > have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested.> > > > blessings> > > > In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or> > > gods.> > > > This view,> > > >> > > > at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain> > > > god', `sun god', etc. the> > > >> > > > Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he> > > contented> > > > himself with> > > >> > > > merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium > of> > > these> > > > views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera> > > >> > > >> > > > The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard:> > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at> > > Jetavana at> > > > Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, > was> > > > seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the > Blessed> > > > One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza:> > > >> > > > i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My> > > adoration> > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge."> > > >> > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of> > > Asuras, on> > > > behalf of Candima, thus:> > > >> > > > ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the> > > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion > on> > > the> > > > world (of beings)."> > > >> > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and> > > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, > and> > > stood> > > > beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. > Then> > > > Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza.> > > >> > > > iii. "Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you > come> > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?"> > > >> > > > "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me > to> > > > release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would > have> > > split> > > > into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no > happiness.> > > > (Therefore I released Candima)." //> > > >> > > >> > > > Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection> > > > //Thus have I heard:> > > >> > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at> > > Jetavana at> > > > Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, > was> > > > seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the> > > Blessed> > > > One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza:> > > >> > > > i. "O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My> > > adoration> > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge."> > > >> > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of> > > Asuras, on> > > > behalf of Suriya thus:> > > >> > > > ii. "O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the> > > Consummate> > > > One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the > world (of> > > > beings).> > > >> > > > iii. "O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining> > > one,> > > > the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, > release> > > > Suriya, my son."> > > >> > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately> > > came to> > > > the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him> > > > trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then > Vepacitta> > > > addressed Rahu in this stanza:> > > >> > > > iv. "Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you > come> > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified?"> > > >> > > > "I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me> > > release> > > > Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split > into> > > > seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness.> > > > (Therefore I released Suriya)."//> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, Namaskar! <I am yet to come across authentic statemnt frm Lord Budha that he was against astrology > Pl. brush up your knowledge about what Gautama the Budha has said about shamans and their pranks. <Wat he said is even if he says the sisyas shud not accept anything unless they also exprnce it .> Maybe " Vedic astrology " is an exception since you want it to be accepted by everybody even before " experiencing " (sic!) it! <where as i heard some sanyasi predicted when budha born that either he will b a chakravarty (king of kings )or a gr8 saint .Also bhagavan budha possess 32 chakravorty lakhshana.can u tell me ur idea abt wat is it .> Whenver there is an either/or it means the person who has predicted it is not himself sure!Obviously, tha sanyasi was wrong since in spite of having " chakravortylakshana " Gautama the Budha became a mendicant, a beggar! <so many budhist monks esp tibetan/nepalies monks also practise astrology and mind reading technics etc .> They are doing a disservice to their religion like impostor Vamadevas are doing to Hinduism by teaching " Vedic astrology " . Regards, A K Kaul , " sreedhar.nambiar " <sreedhar.nambiar wrote: > > > > > Kaulji > > I am yet to come across authentic statemnt frm Lord Budha that he was > against astrology .Wat he said is even if he says the sisyas shud not > accept anything unless they also exprnce it . > > where as i heard some sanyasi predicted when budha born that either he > will b a chakravarty (king of kings )or a gr8 saint .Also bhagavan budha > possess 32 chakravorty lakhshana.can u tell me ur idea abt wat is it . > > so many budhist monks esp tibetan/nepalies monks also practise > astrology and mind reading technics etc . > > > > regrds sreedhar nambiar > > > > How come The so called veda and saraswathy connection u dont seems to > care abt it ??how it happened ,what is ur idea abt swastika ?? why it is > used in saraswathi civilisation . > > There were so many instance abt how saraswathi ppl has been influenced > sumerian ,babylonian and minovan (pre alexander greek ) cultures.why u r > silent abt it .Or r u happy that all came frm jews and west . > > can u show one text of vedic ppl in reality -i mean proof with > authenticity ( ur so called vedic -as ur loc ( line of control ) is > that much only ) and that they knows LIPI and they wrote in that . , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, > > Namaskar! > > <If you can listen to the following where you get all 28 names of > > past buddhas> > > > > The Gita has said, " Bahooni me vyateetani, janmani tava cha arjuna > > taani aham vedmi sarvani na tvam vettha parantapa " > > > > i.e. > > " O Arjuna, both of us have had several janmas. I know them all but > > you do not know them " . > > If Gautama the Budha has had 28 janmas, that is nothing new as per > > Hindu philosophy! It is also possible that He remembered/recalled > > all His janmas. > > > > < and now u can start dating ,hating and even distorting on each > > budhas> > > I have read in History books that Gautama the Budha was a > > contemporary of Vardhaman Mahavira, the founder of Jainism. Jainese > > also claim that Mahavira had had several incarnations as > > Tirthankaras. So do the budhists about Gautama the Budha! The Budha > > we are talking about is said to have " incarnated " around 2500 BCE. > > So is the case with Mahavira. As such, I do not know what you mean > > by the above statement! It appears that you are actually projecting > > your hate to others and distorting the facts yourself! > > > > <budhist stupa like structure in indus valley finding and it says it > > is abov 5000 yrs old> > > If Gautama the Budha had appeared around 2500 BCE, it is just > > possible that a stupa was erected in his " honour " and that stupa > > could be of around 4500 years old! So what is so surprising about it? > > > > <also help the reserchers how this connection happened the > > vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic and > > pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic ppl > > has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even vedas > > never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).> > > Quite a few Budhist scholars--some of them from Leh in J & K---are > > doing a lot of research about the real/actual date of Gautama the > > Budha. The " Leh gentleman " got some details about eclipses/New > > Moons/Full Moons from me for a period of 2600 BCE to 2200 BCE, to > > ascertain the actual date of the Budha. > > Cuniforms/clay tablets are from Chaldea/Babylonia, which is known as > > Iraq these days! It is because of their fatal infatuation with > > astrology that they came to such a plight! Do you want India also to > > have a similar fate? > > BTW, can you quote even a single " mahavakya " from Gautama the Budha > > where he has advised his followers to be taken in by astrologers' > > hoaxes? To the best of my knowledg, the Budha has advised against > > falling into the trap of such " shamans " etc. And YOU ARE JUST GOING > > AGAINST HIS TEACHINGS BY ADVOCATING THE FRAUD KNOWN AS VEDIC > > ASTROLOGY, BUT CLAIMING TO BE A FOLLOWER OF BUDHISM! > > And that is where you are exactly like all the other " Vedic > > astrologers " ---practising predictive gimmicks on the shoulders of > > those very shastras that have deplored such tactics! > > Dhanyavad. > > A K Kaul > > > > , " sreedhar.nambiar " > > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote: > > > > > > Kaul ji pls use the below information too > > > ==================================== If you can listen to the > > > following where you get all 28 names of past buddhas. It is a short > > > pirith..would not take much time. But I don't know if your > > connection > > > is slow. > > http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3 > > > <http://www.pirith.org/tfndownloads/pirith/Atavisi_Piritha.mp3> > > > blessings ====================== and now u can strt > > dating ,hating > > > and even distorting on each budhas ,it will b a fun for u also if > > u hav > > > more free time pls help dating and finding the truth abt a budhist > > stupa > > > like structure in indus valley finding and it says it is abov 5000 > > yrs > > > old .so u can help them those archeological community senting all ur > > > messges . also help the reserchers how this connection happened > > the > > > vedic saraswathi and mlecha saraswathi culture which was pre vedic > > and > > > pre-indus .they hav scripts and world wide presence where as vedic > > ppl > > > has no scripts or books or cuniforms till today find out ( even > > vedas > > > never written it was smriti and sruthi form ).so help them to > > unravel > > > this mystery and see how vedic texts adopted this knowledge frm > > mlecha > > > sources and called even the Lord of knowledge as saraswathi . (also > > read > > > mlechavikalpa praised in MBH) but make sure alwys stay tuned to > > ur > > > wilful mission > > > > > > > > > all the best > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sreedhar . > > > > > > , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > > > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, > > > > Namaskar! > > > > You have said, " i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks > > frm > > > > srilanka ,so this is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps > > all > > > > budhist texts with max reverence and no body will say brahmins > > > > distorted it. " > > > > > > > > What is the date, at least the exact year, of brith of Bhagvan > > Budha > > > > accoding to you? > > > > Secodly, in the passage quoted by you, there is not any mention of > > > > any planet but the Sun and the Moon which were known as lights and > > > > not as planets! Similarly, even today, none of the astronomers nor > > > > astrologers, accept Rahu as a planet but as a node and > > even " chhaya- > > > > graha " . > > > > You have also said: > > > > <Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > > > Asuras, on behalf of Candima, thus: > > > > ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion on > > > > the world (of beings). " > > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and > > > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and > > > > stood beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on > > end. > > > > Then Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza> > > > > > > > > It appears niether the " Blessed One " referred to in those works > > knew > > > > nor you know even a bit of geagraphy since if the Moon/Sun > > > > are/were " releasted " by " Rahu " only after the " Blessed One " > > addresses > > > > a stanza to it, the Moon/Sun should have been in its grip ever > > since > > > > the " Blessed One " left for " His heavenly abode " . > > > > > > > > I wonder as to how long will " Vedic jyotishis " continue to make a > > > > fool of a common man by such snippets and tidbits! God only can > > save > > > > the Hindu community from " Vedic Jyotishis " ! > > > > Dhanyavad. > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > , " sreedhar.nambiar " > > > > sreedhar.nambiar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i got this frm a senior teacher of budhist monks frm > > srilanka ,so > > > > this > > > > > is frm atleast 2500 yrs old as srilanka keeps all budhist texts > > > > with max > > > > > reverence and no body will say brahmins distorted it . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sreedhar > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ---- > > --- > > > > > > > > > > if you are interested have a look. These two suttas are > > supposed to > > > > be > > > > > have been chanted by Buddha. You may be interested. > > > > > blessings > > > > > In Indian cosmology the major planets are regarded as deities or > > > > gods. > > > > > This view, > > > > > > > > > > at times, extends to the common parlance of today, e. g., `rain > > > > > god', `sun god', etc. the > > > > > > > > > > Buddha was not disposed to comment on these views. and so he > > > > contented > > > > > himself with > > > > > > > > > > merely expressing the message of the Dhamma through the medium > > of > > > > these > > > > > views ). - Ven Piyadassi thera > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection // Thus have I heard: > > > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi, at > > > > Jetavana at > > > > > Anathpindika's monastery. At that time Candima, the moon deity, > > was > > > > > seized by Rahu, lord of Asura. Thereupon calling to mind the > > Blessed > > > > > One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza: > > > > > > > > > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > > > > adoration > > > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > > > > > > > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > > > Asuras, on > > > > > behalf of Candima, thus: > > > > > > > > > > ii. " O Rahu, Candima has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > > > > Consummate One. Release Candima. The Buddhas radiate compassion > > on > > > > the > > > > > world (of beings). " > > > > > > > > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Candima, the deity, and > > > > > immediately came to the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, > > and > > > > stood > > > > > beside him trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. > > Then > > > > > Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza. > > > > > > > > > > iii. " Rahu. Why did you suddenly release Candima? Why have you > > come > > > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > > > > > > > > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me > > to > > > > > release Candima). If I had not released Candima my head would > > have > > > > split > > > > > into seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no > > happiness. > > > > > (Therefore I released Candima). " // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suriya Sutta The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection > > > > > //Thus have I heard: > > > > > > > > > > On one occasion the Blessed One was living near Savatthi at > > > > Jetavana at > > > > > Anathapindika's monastery. At that time Suriya, the sun deity, > > was > > > > > seized by Rahu, Lord of Asuras. Thereupon calling to mind the > > > > Blessed > > > > > One, Suriya, the Sun deity, recited this stanza: > > > > > > > > > > i. " O Buddha, the Hero, thou art wholly free from all evil. My > > > > adoration > > > > > to thee. I have fallen into distress. Be thou my refuge. " > > > > > > > > > > Thereupon the Blessed One addressed a stanza to Rahu, Lord of > > > > Asuras, on > > > > > behalf of Suriya thus: > > > > > > > > > > ii. " O Rahu, Suriya has gone for refuge to the Tathagata, the > > > > Consummate > > > > > One. Release Suriya. The Buddhas radiate compassion on the > > world (of > > > > > beings). > > > > > > > > > > iii. " O Rahu, swallow not the dispeller of darkness, the shining > > > > one, > > > > > the radiant and effulgent traveler through the sky. Rahu, > > release > > > > > Suriya, my son. " > > > > > > > > > > Thereupon Rahu, Lord of Asuras, released Suriya, and immediately > > > > came to > > > > > the presence of Vepacitta, Lord of Asuras, and stood beside him > > > > > trembling with fear and with hair standing on end. Then > > Vepacitta > > > > > addressed Rahu in this stanza: > > > > > > > > > > iv. " Rahu, why did you suddenly release Suriya? Why have you > > come > > > > > trembling, and why are you standing here terrified? " > > > > > > > > > > " I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza (requesting me > > > > release > > > > > Suriya). If I had not released Suriya my head would have split > > into > > > > > seven pieces. While yet I live, I should have had no happiness. > > > > > (Therefore I released Suriya). " // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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