Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ Dear Moderator and Members Namaskaram I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion of Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful Subject for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their life. I find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home peace and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give me more motivation to help the people with this science. Every research in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have limitations in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much time it will be with us. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Dear Chopra ji, Namaskar, Thanks for your observation about astrology. I hope we will have fruitful discussion about astrology. I am also associated with astrology since +35 years and I was also of the opinion like you that astrology is correct. But have you find that any conclusion drawn on the basis of any principle or combination of planets or dasha etc. then same result may not be obtained in some other case with same principle etc. You got " motivation to help the people with this science " hence like other scientific principles it may also have some definite output. What is your opinion on this. I am moving slowly in the field of discussion so that you may have full opportunity for presenting your views. If you want then you may also invite your friends of other forums by intimating about this forum. As this forum is open to all with full freedom of expressing views and there is no censorship like other forums. Other members may take part in exchange of views. Waiting for your response. Thanks Yours truly, Sanat 0751-2626868 , " Pram Chopra " <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > Dear Moderator and Members > > Namaskaram > > I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion of > Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in > this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful Subject > for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their life. I > find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain > and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home peace > and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give me > more motivation to help the people with this science. Every research > in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have limitations > in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every > moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to > seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much time > it will be with us. > > Thanks > > Tem Pram Chopra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Sanat Ji Namaskaram You have great of discussion about astrology will let my friends that they can share their views on astro subject. In this subject I have cover all studies but find each principle have its limitation to see beyond the certain period as you know Dasa is for measuring the time of events but you know its some time helpless when it is narrow escape of time or skip of fruitful results. We are taking Career or marriage for instance when to be happen or whether it is fruitful or not but no body bothers about the time frame it is going to be. There are some logical questions that why we are always ready to help the queirer and does not want to see whether the time we are examining the Chart is whether it is good Muhurtha for the native or not. Because I Believe if good time is starting then consequence will move accordingly and astrologer will get benefit for that good observance. but in other case I believe that native is in problem and he want to share his problem with use and we are astrologer and we accept his problem and give suggestion solve it in this manner but if the native's good time does not start from that very moment then problems visits in other's to cast obstacles. I means to say here is Astrologer must know the timings that which is favorable to the native by any how. If the person does not want to be appear on that very time then give appointment of the next day. Because we are not here to calculate the bound salary to cover our basic necessaties we are here to give Divine Blessings to the persons which is free from obstacles. Just I want to know that do you have persons that they are with you from the day they have appear to ask you about the AStrological Guidance in their Matters and find that you have given them the lord's Prashad and want every blessings in their work from your kind hands only. Means are you Acharya of that kind. Thanks TPC On 2/19/09, sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: Dear Chopra ji,Namaskar,Thanks for your observation about astrology. I hope we will have fruitful discussion about astrology.I am also associated with astrology since +35 years and I was also of the opinion like you that astrology is correct. But have you find that any conclusion drawn on the basis of any principle or combination of planets or dasha etc. then same result may not be obtained in some other case with same principle etc. You got " motivation to help the people with this science " hence like other scientific principles it may also have some definite output.What is your opinion on this.I am moving slowly in the field of discussion so that you may have full opportunity for presenting your views. If you want then you may also invite your friends of other forums by intimating about this forum. As this forum is open to all with full freedom of expressing views and there is no censorship like other forums. Other members may take part in exchange of views.Waiting for your response.ThanksYours truly,Sanat0751-2626868 , " Pram Chopra " <pramchopra1964 wrote:>> ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > Dear Moderator and Members> > Namaskaram> > I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion of > Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in > this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful Subject > for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their life. I > find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain > and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home peace > and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give me > more motivation to help the people with this science. Every research > in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have limitations > in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every > moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to > seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much time > it will be with us.> > Thanks> > Tem Pram Chopra > -- ThanksTPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Chopra ji, Namaskar, Thanks for quick response. In response of my point " that any conclusion drawn on the basis of any principle or combination of planets or dasha etc. then same result may not be obtained in some other case with same principle etc. " , you have taken a stand that it is the " time we are examining the Chart is whether it is good Muhurtha for the native or not…… " . I think your response is more related to psychology then principle of astrology it-self. Because as you have pointed out about the marriage with the help of dasha (or some other combination of principles). But you have not consolidated your reply as to whether (if socalled muhurat is ok) result of application of some principle is same or not. If it is same then how a principle of dasha etc. can lead an astrologer to forecast about the marriage in the age of +25 years (now a days) and for marriage before – 15 years before say 100 years back and for +35 years for foreigners or for 4 marriages for Muslim and single marriage for Hindu or one by one many marriage for Christians and so on. Thus are planets governed with the culture or with the religion of with the whim of astrologers according to local circumstances. I hope you will share your valuable views on above point. You can also raise this issue in other forums, wherever you are active and invite your frieds. Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic exchange of views. You can also read file " Astrology a science or myth " in file section. Other members can also share their views without any hitch. Do not wait for others to react. Thanks Yours truly, Sanat , " Pram Chopra " <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > Dear Moderator and Members > > Namaskaram > > I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion of > Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in > this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful Subject > for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their life. I > find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain > and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home peace > and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give me > more motivation to help the people with this science. Every research > in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have limitations > in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every > moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to > seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much time > it will be with us. > > Thanks > > Tem Pram Chopra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Sanat Ji Namaskaram Thanks for your views of sharing you are great in observation and explaination very good. Now I am giving you my experience hold and I just I want to Check what will you get at that particular time as you know that Rahukalam and Yamagandam is build for inauspicious activities and one must avoid start of Auspicious deeds. Although I am here I am not suggesting to not to take that time but just Check what you get in analyzing the Queries Results and after that Just check the timing in Gulika kalam which is Made for Auspicious matters only and inauspicious activities does not find any support even if they achieve something. This is the main thing which I want to share with members to check whether I am really speaking truth in accepting the good timing for the native or not. If I stand Brilliant in this matter then one must take good Stars for working for the native only. I means to say here is Day star too. Thanks TPC On 2/21/09, sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: Dear Chopra ji,Namaskar,Thanks for quick response. In response of my point " that any conclusion drawn on the basis of any principle or combination of planets or dasha etc. then same result may not be obtained in some other case with same principle etc. " , you have taken a stand that it is the " time we are examining the Chart is whether it is good Muhurtha for the native or not…… " .I think your response is more related to psychology then principle of astrology it-self. Because as you have pointed out about the marriage with the help of dasha (or some other combination of principles). But you have not consolidated your reply as to whether (if socalled muhurat is ok) result of application of some principle is same or not. If it is same then how a principle of dasha etc. can lead an astrologer to forecast about the marriage in the age of +25 years (now a days) and for marriage before – 15 years before say 100 years back and for +35 years for foreigners or for 4 marriages for Muslim and single marriage for Hindu or one by one many marriage for Christians and so on. Thus are planets governed with the culture or with the religion of with the whim of astrologers according to local circumstances. I hope you will share your valuable views on above point. You can also raise this issue in other forums, wherever you are active and invite your frieds.Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic exchange of views. You can also read file " Astrology a science or myth " in file section.Other members can also share their views without any hitch. Do not wait for others to react.ThanksYours truly, Sanat , " Pram Chopra " <pramchopra1964 wrote: >> ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > Dear Moderator and Members> > Namaskaram> > I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion of > Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in > this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful Subject > for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their life. I > find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain > and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home peace > and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give me > more motivation to help the people with this science. Every research > in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have limitations > in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every > moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to > seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much time > it will be with us.> > Thanks> > Tem Pram Chopra> -- ThanksTPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear Chopra ji, Namaskar, Thanks for quick response, but you have completely bypassed my point and diverted it to Rahu Kaal etc. OK, let us take it, because you are very interested in Rahu kal etc. So do you think position of Rahu as is being shown in the horoscope is right? And may I know what is Rahu – Ketu according to your knowledge? Though I know your reply which is very simple but just for the sake to know your views I am raising this point. After hearing your views I will come out with my observation. Thanks Yours truly, Sanat PS : other members may take part in the discussion if they want to say something. Then interaction will be more useful. , Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Sanat Ji > > Namaskaram > > Thanks for your views of sharing you are great in observation and > explaination very good. Now I am giving you my experience hold and I just I > want to Check what will you get at that particular time as you know that > Rahukalam and Yamagandam is build for inauspicious activities and one must > avoid start of Auspicious deeds. Although I am here I am not suggesting to > not to take that time but just Check what you get in analyzing the Queries > Results and after that Just check the timing in Gulika kalam which is Made > for Auspicious matters only and inauspicious activities does not find any > support even if they achieve something. This is the main thing which I want > to share with members to check whether I am really speaking truth in > accepting the good timing for the native or not. If I stand Brilliant in > this matter then one must take good Stars for working for the native only. I > means to say here is Day star too. > > Thanks > TPC > > > On 2/21/09, sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chopra ji, > > Namaskar, > > Thanks for quick response. > > In response of my point " that any conclusion drawn on the basis of > > any principle or combination of planets or dasha etc. then same > > result may not be obtained in some other case with same principle > > etc. " , you have taken a stand that it is the " time we are examining > > the Chart is whether it is good Muhurtha for the native or not…… " . > > I think your response is more related to psychology then principle of > > astrology it-self. Because as you have pointed out about the marriage > > with the help of dasha (or some other combination of principles). But > > you have not consolidated your reply as to whether (if socalled > > muhurat is ok) result of application of some principle is same or > > not. If it is same then how a principle of dasha etc. can lead an > > astrologer to forecast about the marriage in the age of +25 years > > (now a days) and for marriage before – 15 years before say 100 years > > back and for +35 years for foreigners or for 4 marriages for Muslim > > and single marriage for Hindu or one by one many marriage for > > Christians and so on. Thus are planets governed with the culture or > > with the religion of with the whim of astrologers according to local > > circumstances. > > > > I hope you will share your valuable views on above point. You can > > also raise this issue in other forums, wherever you are active and > > invite your frieds. > > > > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic exchange of > > views. You can also read file " Astrology a science or myth " in file > > section. > > > > Other members can also share their views without any hitch. Do not > > wait for others to react. > > > > Thanks > > > > Yours truly, > > Sanat > > > > <% 40>, > > " Pram Chopra " > > <pramchopra1964@> wrote: > > > > > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > Dear Moderator and Members > > > > > > Namaskaram > > > > > > I Thank you for inviting me in this valuable forum for discussion > > of > > > Astrology pertaining to Science or Myth Subject. Since 1984 I am in > > > this Subject and observed that it is very amazing and fruitful > > Subject > > > for Margdarshan of so many people as to what is ahead in their > > life. I > > > find it very useful when it help me at that time when I was in Pain > > > and suffering from planless disgusting situations regarding Home > > peace > > > and Career patterns and I got fix and accurate results which give > > me > > > more motivation to help the people with this science. Every > > research > > > in this regard is helpful towards humanity even if it have > > limitations > > > in seeking results for good. the Basic Point What I get is every > > > moment of Situations have its own time to be solved. But we use to > > > seek our good sake not problem to be solved forever or how much > > time > > > it will be with us. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thanks > TPC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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