Fwd: Accuracy of lunar tithies outside India

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WAVES-Vedic , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote:

 

Dear Raina Sahib,

Namaskar!

<I am not so much well versed in the Vedic Calender.>

A document named BVB6 just posted on this forum will give u a clear idea about

the real Vedic/Puaranic calendar!

<The lunar thithies that are given in our panchangs are usually based on

latitudes and longitudes of certain places in India.>

Tithi is actually the mutual distance between the sun and the moon in longitude

divided by twelve! The maximum distance between the two luminaries cannot thus

exceed 360 (i.e. zero!) so there are thirty tithis, 15th being purnima and 30th

Amavasya!

Longitudes of the luminaries as given by NASA from which other " bodies "

including the Rashtriya Panchanga get their data, are geocentric i.e. for an

imaginary point at the centre of the earth which itself is about 5000 ft. (I

hope I am correct in this estimate!) below the surface of the earth! as such, it

has nothing to do with particular longitude or latitude of a place!

The ending moments of tithis given in Indian panchangas are usually in IST and

by subtracting 5.5 hours from the same, u get the timings in GMT a.k.a UT which

can be converted to the desired zonal time.

For determining the tithi that is prevailing for a particular day, usually it is

the sunrise time of a particular place that is taken into account. For whole of

Inidia, Rashtriya Panchanga uses a place near Ujjain having a longitude of 82.5

degrees East and latitude of 23 degrees 11 minutes North. And they consider

that that tithi may be taken as prevailing for the whole of India, if it is

prevailing at the time of sunrise at that particular place. However, other

panchangakars of other states/provinces take usually the longitudes of the

capitals of their states for calculating such phenomena.

It must be put on record that the mutual distance of two luminaries remaining

the same, whether in so called sayana or so called nirayana, the ending moments

of tithis do not differ because of ayanamsha curse. Astronomically, though,

geocentric phenomena are a farce but then in India, correct predictions are made

only from incorrect data, as such, how can deciding fasts, fesivals and muhurtas

being calculated on the basis of farcical endinng moments of tithis be an

exception! As such, thanks to our " Vedic astrologers " and " Vedic

panchangamakers " including the Rashtriya Panchanga (which is actually a

euphemism for Lahiri panchanga!). u can rest assured that they will leave no

stone unturned to make u celebrate all your fesitvals on anything but correct

days and timings! All they are worried about is their bread and butter

(actually sinful crumbs!), which they earn from making fool of a common man!

As such, so long as we leave it to jyotishis to decide the dates and timings of

festivals and muhurtas for us, instead of taking things into our own hands,

there is no possibility of reviving the real Vedic dharma, whatever trumpets we

may keep on blowing!

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

 

WAVES-Vedic , " pl_raina " <pl_raina@> wrote:

>

> Respected Vedic Scholars

> Namaskar. I am not so much well versed in the Vedic

Calender.I am looking for an answer to my question :

> The lunar thithies that are given in our panchangs are usually based on

latitudes and longitudes of certain places in India. How can they hold good

places in UK ,USA Australia which are far removed fron India and have very

different Latitude and Longitudes?Do we need different panchangs for different

countries where we find Indian diaspora now?Plese clarify .Thanks

> PL Raina

>

 

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