Meshadi and Makaradi in 11th century AD!

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Shri Sunil

Nairji,

Namaskar!

You have

said,

" Dear

sunil    Bhattacharya ji and List

See  ,read

and enjoy another  kaulian tamasha ,he endoresed AL -beruni a arab as a most

learned scholar on astronomy and his writing as if veda Vakhya for him "

 

My dear Sunil

Nairji,  if you knew even a bit of Primary school geography, leave alone

astronomy or your dharmashastras or even the sidhantas by which you swear, you

would not have made such a fool of yourself by laughing at such statements as <++++++++++That

which is has northern declination is called Uttarakul (Uttara-gola) or Meshadi

i.e. having Aries as beginning That which has southern declination is called 

dakshinagola or tuladi i.e. having Tula as beginning>

 

It is evident

that you do not know even ABC of your own panchangas, but then we cannot expect

anything else from " Vedic astrologers " whose only aim is to fleece

the gullible, by hook or by crook, and by going to absurd lengths of claiming that

" Kumbhayoni " was born in Kumbha Rashi!

You

would not have cut such a sorry figure, if you had read at least BVB6.doc,

since I have explained all these primary school level geography principles

there in, which I am repeating below:

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7.         Primary

School level Geography:   Let

us see the situation in the light of modern astronomy/geography.  Initially, I

was myself peeved as to why the ayana and vishuva (Makara, Mesha, Karkata and

Tula) sankrantis had been praised to the skies by our Rishis, so much so that

they say that it is difficult even for yogis to catch the actual moment of such

sankrantis and any charities or fasts on such occasions yield thousand-fold

results!

Let me explain it in a manner that is

as non-technical as possible:

We know that the earth hurtles around

the sun at about 30 kilometers per second. (2)  It also rotates on its axis, causing

days and nights (3) The equator is “precessing” at tremendous

speeds.  (4) Because the ecliptic is inclined to the equator (obliquity of

ecliptic) the earth/sun reaches the minimum/maximum declination i.e. it is at

the minimum/maximum distance from the equator during its revolution of the sun

at particular points of time.  The maximum obliquity of the ecliptic has

remained around 23°28’ over the last couple of centuries.  Therefore that

is the maximum north/south declination that the sun/earth can attain these days

during its journey via the ecliptic.  On that declination depends the

phenomenon of seasons, which is also directly responsible for increase/decrease

in day/night durations.  The sun attains the maximum northern declination of

about 23° 27’ on June 21.  That means it is at a maximum northern

distance from the equator on that date. That is thus the last day of the summer

season when the day is the longest and varsha ritu starts. The sun (actually

the earth) has then to stop for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond---

before climbing down from that “high pedestal” of North

declination!  That fleeting moment is the real crucial moment and we can only

“calculate” it correctly to some extent with our computers with

microprocessor speeds in GHz that also only with the data from NASA and other

overseas observatories and not from our panchanga-makers including the

Rashtriya Panchanga!  This very moment of “U-turn” in the

declination of the sun is the real dakshinayana as the earth has reached the

maximum declination of south or the sun the maximum declination of north viz.

23° 27’ and has to turn back from there. This is also known as Karkata

Sankranti of the sun as the sun lies directly over the tropic of Cancer

(Karka-Rekha) on that date.  I am sure everybody has read that much of

geography in his primary school days!  There cannot be any other Karkata

Sankranti as per any shastra or sidhanta or modern astronomy/geography since

there is no other Karka Rekha (Tropic of Cancer) or any other longest day of

the year!

Similar is the case on December 21,

when the sun reaches the maximum south declination (of around 23° 27’)

i.e. when the sun is at a maximum southern distance from the equator. It has to

stop then for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond again--- before

“turning” back (U-turn!) from that high pedestal.  That fleeting

moment is the real Uttarayana of the sun known as Makara Sankranti since the

sun is directly on the tropic of Capricorn---Makara-Rekha---on that date.  There

is absolutely no other Makara Sankranti either as per the shastras or sidhantas

or modern astronomy/geography since there is no other Makara-Rekha nor any

other shortest day of the year!  That  also is primary school level geography!

Similarly, during its sojourn around

the sun; the earth, the equator and the ecliptic join together for a fleeting

moment---here also less than a nanosecond--when the longitude, latitude,

declination and right ascension of the sun/earth are zero! The sun (actually

the earth) is in exact “conjunction” with the ecliptic and the

equator! It is thus a “Triveni” and that is the moment of Spring

Equinox.  With the declination of the sun being zero degrees South it has to

start moving away (cross the equator) again from that “conjunction of the

equator” from that moment of zero degrees

longitude-cum-latitude-cum-declination-cum-right ascension!  It proceeds

towards Northern declination and it is known as Uttaragola. That fleeting

moment is Vishuva – Mesha Sankranti of the sun (Tula Sankranti of the

earth)! It is Vishuva because the earth is conjunct with the Vishuvat Rekha

i.e. the Equator. That is the moment when days and nights are really equal

throughout the globe.

That is the zero

“moment/point” for all the calculations of longitude, Right

Ascension, Declination etc. and it is known as Vernal Equinox.  Vishuva also

means, as per Jayaratha, the commentator of Tantraloka, the days when

“days and nights are equal”.  Spring Equinox also means the same

thing i.e Equi-nox: day is equal to night in the midst of the spring season!

This is the real Vaishakhi and the sun enters Uttara Gola then i.e. it starts

gaining in northern declination!  There is no other Vishuvat Rekha (Equator)

with which the earth can be “conjunct” during Spring and therefore

there cannot be any other Vishuva or Mesha Sankranti since day and night are

not equal during Spring on any other day.  All the panchangakars list

Uttara-gola on that date but then why do they want us to celebrate

Vaishakhi/Vaishakhadi/Meshadi i.e. solar New Year on April 14/15!   Because

they know that we do not know ABC of geography!  Or is it that they do not know

it themselves?

Then again after six months of that

phenomenon, a similar situation comes again, when the longitude and Right

ascension of the sun are 180 degrees (earth zero degrees).  The longitude of

the sun also can be taken as zero degrees on that date if we measure it from

Autumn Equinox instead of from Vernal Equinox! The equator, the earth and the

ecliptic have a confluence for a fleeting moment---less than a

nanosecond---again!  As the earth is conjunct the equator i.e. Vishuvat Rekha

again, it is also known as Vishuva----Autumn Equinox (Jala Vishuva or Tula

Sankranti) around September 23. It is the midpoint (second month) of the

Sharat-ritu. (That is why Sharadiya Navaratras should start with the first

Shukla Pratipat after Sharat Ritu starts---on September 15 in 2004—and

not when Sharat-kala is almost over—October 14, 2004----as is being done

by our panchangamakers).

The declination of the sun is zero

degrees at that particular moment.  Again, all the panchangakars list it as

“the sun enters dakshina gola” as the sun (after crossing the

Equator) starts gaining southern declination from that moment.  There cannot be

any other Tula Sankranti/Jala Vishuva as the earth is not conjunct

Equator---and thus the day and night are not equal---on any other day in

Autumn! But then these panchangakars make us celebrate Tula Sankranti on

October 14/15!  Why?  Only because they will lose their sinful crumbs if the

tell us the facts!  Or is it that they do not know the facts themselves? A sad

state of affairs, in either case!

Naturally, in ancient times, it was

almost impossible for ordinary mortals to calculate accurately to the nearest

minute, leave alone the nearest second, such phenomena as lasted hardly for

nanoseconds!  Really, hats off to our Rishis!  Obviously, our present

“Vamadevas” and “Parasharas” who advocate such Mesha

etc. sankrantis as do not exist at all, are a slur on the real Rishis and such

fakes must be banished without delay from this land of real Rishis.

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<How  this

can happen astronomicaly, mathematicaly geometricaly  in 11th century

AD  [)]  [:-$]  (If this is true AL beruni might hav visited 

 latest date

possible may b around BC 7000 according to Modern astronomy or some 34000 yrs

or 61000 yrs  b4 india [X-(]  )>

 

After going

through the above clarifications, I hope, against hope, that you will remove

your mental cobwebs and start celebrating festivals on correct days.

Dhanyavad.

A K Kaul

 

 

 

 

hinducivilization , Sunil Nair

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

-- On Mon, 15/6/09, sunil nair

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

> Fwd:  Meshad and Makardi etc. in 11th century

India!

> astro_tellerkerala

> Monday, 15 June, 2009, 11:07 AM

>

>

> ,

" sunil  nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote

>

> Dear sunil    Bhattacharya ji and List

>

> See  ,read and enjoy another  kaulian tamasha ,he

endoresed AL -beruni a

> arab as a most learned scholar on astronomy and his

writing as if veda

> Vakhya for him

>

> see what AL -beruni ARBAB of kaul ji has written

according to the

> translater ( Readiris, Copyright IRIS 2004 ) and what

kaul upholds as if

> parama satya

>

> ++++++++++That which is has northern declination is

called

>

> Uttarakal (Uttara-gola) or Meshadi i.e. having

>

> Aries as beginning

>

> That which has southern declination is called

>

> dakshinagolaor tuladi i.e. having Tula as

beginning..++++++++++++

>

> How  this can happen astronomicaly,mathematicaly

geometricaly  in 11th

> century AD  [)]  [:-$]  (If this is true AL beruni

might hav visited 

> latest date possible may b around BC 7000 according to

Modern astronomy

> or some 34000 yrs or 61000 yrs  b4 india [X-(]  )

>

>

> Read and enjoy  and decide what he is after ,wheter he

wants a calender

> or wheter he wants total destruction and erasing of

vedic culture in the

> name of calender reform .

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> hinducivilization ,

" jyotirved " jyotirved@

> wrote:

>

>

>

> 356

>

>

>

> CHAPTER XXXVII

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>

> As the year is one revolution of the sun in tbe

ecliptic, it is dividpd

> in