Meshadi and Makaradi in 11th century AD!

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Shri

Sunil Nairji,

Namaskar!

 

There

is Persian saying, “taa mard sukhan na gufta bashad, aib o hunarish

nihufta bashad” i.e. “So long as one keeps one’s

trap shut his/her wisdom and/or foolishness remain hidden from the general

public”

I

am glad that you are giving a proof of your own “ high intelligence”

by continuing this dialogue! Keep it up!

You

have said

<see

what AL -beruni ARBAB of kaul ji has written according to the translater (

Readiris, Copyright IRIS 2004 >

 

" Readris "

is a software used for scanning documents on hp laser

printer-cum-scanner. It is page No. 356, Chapter XXXVII, of Alberuni's

India that has been scanned. The translator of the original Arabic work

is Dr. Edward C. Sachau, and not Readris! Alberuni's India is an

authentic source of information about 11th century India, acknowledged by all

the scholars.

 

<and

what kaul upholds as if parama satya>

Kaul

has kept before the readers the facts that as in the Bhagawata Purana or Vishnu

Purana or Shiva Purana or the Mahabharata, Tantraloka etc. etc. or even the

sidhantas, there are no so called nirayana Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashis, but only

so called sayana rashis, similarly, during the 11th century AD, India was

celebrating all the festivals as per a Sayana Rashichakra. That very

sayana Rashichakra was used for phalita-jyotisha! You can see this

information in npj3.doc also.

 

<++++++++++That

which is has northern declination is called Uttarakul (Uttara-gola) or Meshadi

i.e. having Aries as beginning

That

which has southern declination is called dakshinagola or tuladi i.e. having

Tula as beginning..++++++++++++

Means

he visited india may b BC 7000 when uttarayana according to ur own wordings as

per al beruni sahib or 34 ooo yrs b4 or 61ooo yrs b4>

 

Dear

Sunilji, after all, how long will you go on making a laughing stock of

yourself! I have given you all the astronomical information in as simple

and uncomplicated a manner as possible, but still you are unable to grasp plain

truths! That way, you are a real “Vedic astrologer” since

they can see only previous and forthcoming janmas through predictive hocus

focus but they are blind as bats for simple and plain facts of day to day life!

After all, they are the “living examples” of tamoguni budhi!

 

Anyway,

it is an astronomical fact that on the day of Vernal Equinox, the declination

of the sun is always zero. It has been so over the last several thousand

years, if not several hundred thousand years, and will continue to be so for

the next several thousand years, at least! Vernal Equinox takes place

these days around March 21 and used to take place on the same date in eleventh century

AD, and also in 5000 BCE, if we just ignore the corrections for Gregorian

calendar! From that day onwards, the sun starts gaining Northern

declination, and reaches the maximum Northern declination on the day of Summer Solstice,

known as Dakshinayana Day.

All

the Puranas and the sidhantas say that when the day and night are equal, that

is the day of Mesha Sankranti and that is the day of Vishuva. That is. as

such, Meshadi! You can see on the Rashtirya Panchanga itself that on the

day of March 21/22, the heading itself is “(Vedic) Mesha”. In

other words, the Meshadi or Mesha Sankranti or Vaishakhi that whole of India,

including you, is celebrating these days, is neither as per Puranas nor

as per the sidhantas, but only as per the whims and fancies of Lahiri and

Lahirwalas!

 

The

six months of (Sayana) Mesha, Vrisha, Mithuna etc, are known as Uttara Gola (and

not Uttarayana)! They are so even today in Malayalam panchangas as well.

You can check it for yourself, at least from the Malyalam edition of Rashtirya

Panchanga! Those six months are known as Uttaragola for the simple reason

that the sun is having northern declination from that date of March 21 onwards,

till it reaches the zero degrees of declination again around September 21!

The

day of (Sayana) Karkata Sankranti is known as Dakshinayana (and not

Dakshina-gola) day, since on that day onwards the sun, after having gained the

maximum northern declination, starts coming down from the same, and

starts moving towards south. The six months from that day are known as

Dakshinayana. It has been so over the last several thousand years, and

will continue to be so for thousands of years! “Vedic

astrologers” cannot wish it away!

On

the day of Sayana Tula Sankranti, the day is again equal to night, and

declination of the sun is again zero. Having come down from the Northern

declination, the sun starts gaining Southern declination from that date.

That is why the period of six months of (Sayana) Tula, Vrischika etc.

rashis are known as Dakshina Gola (and not Dakshinayana or Uttarayana).

It will continue to be so for thousands of years, just as it has been so over

the last several thousand years, including eleventh century AD!

Thus

the Simhadi, i.e. the Malyalam New Year day, that you and the rest of my Malyali

brothers and sisters are celebrating these days, should be actually around July

23 or so and not on August 17 or so, since the sun enters the real (Sayana)

Simha rashi on July 23 whereas it is only “Lahiri Simhadi” that you

are celebrating on August 17 or so. If you want to celebrate Chandrahari

Simhadi, it will be a different date; Ramana Simhadi will be on still another

different date and so on. In other words, you can keep on celebrating

your Simhadi throughout the year by changing the Ayanamsha by one degree per

day! After all, who is going to stop “almighty” Lahirwalas!

Anyway,

the Sun reaches maximum Southern Declination around December 21 these days,

after which it starts going towards North. It has been so over the last

several thousand years, including eleventh century, and will continue to be so

for next several thousand years! That very day of maximum Southern

Declination of the sun being the actual maximum Northern declination of the

earth, is yet another reason as to why it is known as the Uttarayana Day!

The six months of Uttarayana start from that very date, and I only hope (against

hope!) that you know that tonsure and yajnyopaveeta ceremonies are performed

only during the six months of Uttarayana!

It

is that very Uttarayana Day that is known as Makaradi/Makar Sankranti, as per

all the Puranas including Bhagawata, Shiva Purana, Vishnudharmotara Purana,

Tantraloka etc. etc. (Pl. see BVB6.doc). Thus the so called Makaradi or

Makara Sankranti etc. that whole of India, including you, is celebrating

these days around January 15 is actually ”almighty” Lahiri Makar

Sankranti. Chandra Hari Makar Sankranti can be on a different date,

Ramana Makar Sankranti on yet another date and so on! In other words. “Vedic

astrologers” can make the hapless Hindu community celebrate Simhadi or

Makaradi or Meshadi every day of the year! They can make the whole of

India celebrate all the three Sankrantis together on every day! After

all, it is just a matter of a degree of Ayanamsha plus or minus every day!

And

that is why I keep on repeating, “We do not need enemies to ruin our

dharma. ‘Vedic astrologers’ are doing that job in a splendid

manner”.

I

am really grateful to you for having given me this opportunity to clarify to a layman

as to how we are being taken for a ride by “Vedic astrologers”

regarding our fasts, festivals and muhurtas---besides, of course, the so called

“Vedic astrology”

Dhanyavad.

A

K Kaul

 

 

 

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In hinducivilization , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

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>

see what AL -beruni ARBAB of kaul ji has written according to the

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translater ( Readiris, Copyright IRIS 2004 ) and what kaul upholds as

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if parama satya

++++++++++That

which is has northern declination is called

Uttarakal

(Uttara-gola) or Meshadi i.e. having Aries as beginning>

>

 

That

which has southern declination is called dakshinagolaor tuladi i.e. having Tula

as beginning..++++++++++++

Means

he visited india may b BC 7000 when uttarayana according to ur own

>wordings

as per al beruni sahib or 34 ooo yrs b4 or 61ooo yrs b4

>

 

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In hinducivilization , " jyotirved " <jyotirved@>

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wrote:

Shri

Sunil Nairji,

Namaskar!

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You have said,

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> " Dear sunil Bhattacharya ji and List

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> See ,read and enjoy another kaulian tamasha ,he endoresed AL

-beruni

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> arab as a most learned scholar on astronomy and his writing as if veda

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> Vakhya for him "

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