Fwd: Mayan calendar and Kaliyuga era: both begin in 4th millennium BCE

October 13, 2009

akandabaratam , " Krishen " <jyotirved wrote:

Dear friends,

Jai Shri Ram!

<Thanks to Rajeev Srinivasan for insights on this link. Mayan Long Count

calendar begins in 3114 BCE. This is remarkably close to the Kaliyuga

era which begins in 3102 BCE.>

Whether or not there is going to be a " Qayamat " in 2012, one thing is

sure: Kaliyuga is an imaginary yuga, which " started " in India actually

the day Maya the mlechha introduced his Surya Sidhanta---a magnum opus

of all the monstrous astronomical calculatoins, under the pretext that

he had got all that knowledge from none other than Surya Bhagwan

himself! He thus succeeded in making a fool of the Hindus even beyond

his wildest imaginations, a real trait of Kaliyuga!

More ironically, Varahamihira found that very " Savitrah " most accurate

out of all the five sidhantas of the panchasidhantika! That means,

being a jyotishi, who has written Brihat Samhita and Brihat Jatakam, the

bibles of " Vedic astrologers " ---he could make correct predictions from

that very absolutely useless Surya Sidahnta! In other words,

Varhamihira could make correct predictions from absolutely incorrect

ata! !

And that is why I call Varahamihria the greatest charlatan of the last

two millennia!

All the ohter jyoitishis followed in his footsteps---i.e. they also made

and still make " correct predictions " from the data of one or the other

ayanamsha---including zero ayanamsha!

It is as per that very work that the mean longitudes of all the plaents

including Ketu are zero for February 17, 3102 BCE midnight---the

" criterion " of the start of Kali Era! Actually, the longitudes, whether

so called sayana or so called nirayana---with any ayanamsha out of

hundreds of ayanamshas ruling the " jyotisha roost " ----of none of the

planets was zero on that date as per modern astronomy! Anybody can

verify it for himself/herself through vishnu.exe program which can be

downloaded for free from hinducalendar

Aryabhata, to start with, copied those very mean elements from the old

Surya Sidhanta of Panchasidhantika and declared that 3600 years of the

the Kali Era had elapsed on the day when he was twenty years old, which

made it start on midnight of February 17/18, 3102 BCE . This was known

as ardharatrika system of Aryabhata. Later, however, he realized his

mistake since days in Bharata-varsha start from sunrise to sunrise and

not midnight to midnight, that is why he altered the daily motions of

the mean elements of the Surya Sidhanta of panchasidhantika in such a

cunning manner that the mean longitudes of all the planets were zero for

6-00 am Ujjain Mean Time of Febryary 18, 3102 BCE, exactly 3600 years

prior to the day he was twenty years old. 6-00 am was supposed to be

the sunrise time at Ujjain for that date! This is know as audayika

saystem! (Aryabhatiya 2/10).

The poor fellow actually could not see his error here either, since the

sunrise time on February 18,, 3102 BCE, is not six am Ujjain Meant Time,

but something else!

This imaginary and preposterous Kali Era has been lapped by all the

jyotihis, who call themselves " Vedic astrologers " these days!

Ironically, none of the astrologers, whether " Vedic " or non-Vedic or

even anti-Vedic is using the planetary details of the Surya Sidhanta

even by mistake! For calculating the " birth charts " (sic!) of divinites

like Bhagwan Ram (9000? years back!) and Bhagwan Krishna also, apart

from their own or that of their clients, their mantra is " JPL sharnam

mamaa (I prostrate at the feet of JPL/NASA)!

Can there be any better (or even worse!) double standards?

Jai Shri Ram!

A K Kaul

akandabaratam

<akandabaratam , " S. Kalyanaraman " kalyan97@

<kalyan97@ > wrote:

Thanks to Rajeev Srinivasan for insights on this link. Mayan Long Count

calendar begins in 3114 BCE. This is remarkably close to the Kaliyuga

era which begins in 3102 BCE.

kalyan

2012 Doomsday Not Likely, Mayans Insist

Mark Stevenson, Associated Press

Oct. 12, 2009Â -- Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded

with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly " running out "

on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. " I came back from

England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff. "

It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's " 2012 " opens in

cinemas, featuring earthquakes,Â meteor showers and a tsunami

dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the " Curious? Ask an

Astronomer " Web site, says people are scared.

" It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are

saying that they're too young to die, " Martin said. " We had a mother of

two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow

up. "

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says theÂ doomsday theories spring from

Western, not Mayan ideas.

A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and

enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say

coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every

25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely

to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy,

Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History

Channel which mixes " predictions " fromÂ NostradamusÂ and the Mayas

and asks: " Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero

days, zero hope? "

It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent

decades -- the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or " Planet

X. " But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction

in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was

largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the

date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur

in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with

both war and creation.

However -- shades of Â Indiana Jones-- erosion and a crack in the

stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous

University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, " He will

descend from the sky. "

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan

sites for dates far beyond 2012 -- including one that roughly translates

into the year 4772.

And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger

worries than 2012.

" If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is

going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea, " said Jose Huchim,

a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. " That the world is going to end? They

wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain. "

The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900

A.D., had a talent for astronomy.

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly

394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred

number for theÂ Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

" It's a special anniversary of creation, " said David Stuart, a

specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. " The

Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad

would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary

on Monument Six. "

Bernal suggests that apocalypse is " a very Western, Christian " concept

projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are " exhausted. "

If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.

But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobblesÂ

, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every

25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy

on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the

same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

" The question I would ask these guys is, so what? " says Phil Plait, an

astronomer who runs the " Bad Astronomy " blog. He says the alignment

doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that

could harm Earth.

" They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they

can to fit that date of 2012, " Plait said.

But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins

indicate the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great

importance to it.

" If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we

would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of

transformation and renewal, " said Jenkins.

" No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we

thought the world was going to end, it didn't, " says Martin, the

astronomy webmaster. " There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that

things were fine the last time around. "

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/12/2012-doomsday-print.html

<http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/12/2012-doomsday-print.html>

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October 13, 2009