[Ind. & West. Astrology] Fwd: representation to the president of India

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Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , AKKaul@@

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Dear Shri Gopal Krishna Goelji,

 

Gopal Krishna ki jai!

 

<Try to live in present. There is sea change both in astrological and

astronomical fields.>

 

You are very right that we must live in present! And as you have said

yourself, there is really a sea change both in astrology and atronomy!

 

Let us discuss astronomy first:

 

1. In ancient times, before the advent of modern astronomy, it was

presumed that the sun revolved round the earth and everything is

geocentric! Accordingly, they had " discovered " the path through which

the sun travelled around the earth! They called it a zodiac, and the

ancients divided that zodiac into twelve equal " animals " and those

animals also were very real to them, as real as the zodiac itself was!

 

2. As against such a reality of zodiac in the past, we now find that it

is after all an imaginary circle, without any starting or ending point,

as such! We also learn from modern astronomy that the " animals "

crawling on that imaginary circle also are imaginary! It means that the

so called Vargas and the so called Dasha bhuktis etc. etc. also are

imaginary!

 

3. To crown it all, the ancient people ascribed lordship of imaginary

animals to inanimate wandering bodies known as planets! According to

them, those planets were very real " living creatures " . Now we know that

planets are nothing but a conglomeration of different metals and

non-metals---elements, without any " pranas " ---i.e. they are absolutely

" dead " , escpeially since they had never been alive!

 

If you go through the Vedas with an unbiased and uncluttered mind and

without any " parokshya knowledge " , you will find that we do not have any

mention of such imaginary circles on which imaginary animals are

crawling in any of the Vedas or the Vedanga Jyotisha! Nor do we find

any mention of dead planets like Shani and Mangal etc. OUR REAL

VAMADEVAS AND PARASHARAS WERE THEREFORE REAL SCIENTISTS---since modern

astronomy also does not believe in any Mesha, Vrisha etc. hocus-pocus or

planetary lordship etc.!

 

<Past can be a good guide but we have had to learn to live in present.>

 

Quite true! As we have seen, the real Vedic past did not believe in the

non-existent " circle of animals " nor did they believe that some dead

planets owned some imaginary animals crawiling on that imaginary circle.

Modern astronomy also does not believe in either!

 

As such, if you still believe in the phantasmagoria called Mesha, Vrisha

etc. rashis, and the resultant predictive hocus-pocus from them, (what

you call astrology) you are neither living in the Vedic past nor in the

modern astronomical present! You are certainly then living in a past

Grecho-Chaldean civilization---perhaps transposed through some Time

Machine into those abysmal dark ages!

 

Since we are living in a free country, you are free to choose where you

want to live and how. However, I have just one request: Pl. do not

call that Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashi myth and the resultant hocus-pocus

therefrom as Vedic astrolgy since that is a slur on the Vedas! You may

call it Chaldean or Greek or even GKG astrology, but certainly neither

Vedic nor scientific!

 

Gopal Krishna ki jai!

 

A K Kaul

 

 

 

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , Gopal Goel

gkgoel1937@ wrote:

>

> Dear Malla ji,

> Try to live in present.

> There is sea change both in

> astrological and astronomical fields.

> Past can be a good guide but we have had

> to learn to live in present.

> Regards,

>

> G.K.GOEL

> Ph: 09350311433

> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> NEW DELHI-110 076

> INDIA

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> hari harimalla@

> Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

> Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:49:15 PM

> [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: Fwd: representation to the

president of India

>

>

> Dear Shri Goelji,

> Namaskar! Let me please clarify that shri Kaulji is right in his

statement that tapa and magha are the same lunar month.

> The three types of months and dates solar,lunar and tropical

sankrantis mean the same things but from three different angles.Thus

divorce between them is ill advised.

> 1)From my researches,I have come to the conclusion that the tropical

dates are linked to our physical senses, like the physical eye and its

vision.The pole star is the only object in heaven which represents the

truth, when seen by the physical eye.We see the pole star as not moving

and the truth is that all stars do not move, but only the pole star is

seen in its true form as not moving.Thus to our senses the tropical date

is necessary.

> 2)The solar sidereal date like the mesh, vrish months are for the

mind.We take the sun as at the star junctions.This is also good from the

mental angle.The mind is represented by Vishnu or Narayan sleeeping on

the bed of Sesh naaga.This Sesha naaga represents our mind.The sun is

also known as Surya Narayan.

> 3) The lunar semi- sidereal dates (full moons being attached to the

nakshaytras) like magha sukla pratipada as representing the uttaryan

> is for the intellectual angle. The reason for this is why Shiva wears

the crescent of the moon on his head, to represent the intellect or

brain cortex.

> The above three types dates thus are from the angles of the

senses,mind and the intellect respectively. Thus even if there may be

some difference within tolerable limits, the total cooordiantion is

absolutely necessary. But if there is no intergration between them then

that person is said to be lacking in moral integration.

> Thus the sixth verse in Vedanga jyotish says,

> 'When the sun and the moon are in dhanistha nakshyatras, then the five

year yuga, month of maagha, tapa sukla packshya and uttaryan start

together.'

> Please concentrate on this sloka very carefully and decide if

coordination of the three types of dates are implied or not.Thank you,

> Regards,

> Hari Malla

>

> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com,

GKGoel@@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Hari malla ji.

> > Happy Dipavalli and wish you all the best.

> > We are celebrating Dipavali in Pradosa Kala

> > on Oct17, 2009 Sat. based on 4000 years old

> > tradition (our present Samvat Sar is running 2066)

> >

> > <Shishira-ritu viz. winter and the month of Tapah start

> > simultaneously with Uttarayana viz.Winter Solstice i.e. the shortest

> > day of the year. That very month is also known as Magha.>

> > First part of the statement is correct.

> > We observe festivals on following main three basis:

> > 1. According to ayan chalan. The main days of festivals

> > are the days of occurrence of Equinoxes ans Solstice.

> > Six ritus and 12 seasonal months are linked with them.

> > This year shishara ritu and its first month Tapas will

> > commence on dec21,2009at 23h17m IST.,when Sun will

> > become Uttrayana.This is nothing to do with the month of Magha.

> > 2. According to sidereal ingress of Sun in zodiac signs:

> > Solar Month of Magha will commence on Jan14,2010.

> > at 12.38 noon IST. This should not be equated with

> > seasonal month Tapas. I do not understand why some

> > persons are trying to create unnesassary confusion.

> > 3, Solar Months- They are always linked with Nakshatras,

> > Lunar month Magha will start -Krishna paksha Jan 1,

> > and Shukla paksha 0n Jan 16.

> > As all the three have different purpose , they can not be merged.

> > Thus the statement - " That very month is also known as Magha. "

> > is misleading and uncalled for in present situation,

> > All Indian Panchang clearly show the coordinates on all the three

> > basis. As they can not and should not be integrated , these are

shown seperately.

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > G.K.GOEL

> > Ph: 09350311433

> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > INDIA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > " HariMalla@ .. " HariMalla@ ..>

> > HinduCalendar; Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_

Digest@grou ps.com

> > Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:13:20 AM

> > [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: Fwd: representation to the

president of India

> >

> >

> > parvasudhar2065, " hari " <harimalla@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear shir Kaulji,

> > Namaskar! I would surely like to congratulate you for the attached

resentation made to the president of India. It was surely a historic

representation and a great contribution to the Hindu society and

religion.

> > Nevertheless I would like to make a supportive comment on the quotes

given as under.

> > <Shishira-ritu viz. winter and the month of Tapah start

simultaneously with Uttarayana viz.Winter Solstice i.e. the shortest day

of the year. That very month is also known as Magha.>

> >

> > My only comment is that 'tapa sukla and uttarayan starting

simultaneously' means that during its fluctuation lunar tapa sukla

should go on both sides of uttaryan, both before and after uttarayan.We

are not to understand that tapa sukla starts only 'after' uttarayan.

With this interpretation, the whole representation was indeed a very

laudable effort! Thank you for your reformation movement.

> > Regards,

> > Hari Malla

> >

> > parvasudhar2065, " hari " <harimalla@> wrote:

> > >

> > > HinduCalendar, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > The following representation was sent to the Hon'e Rahtrapatiji,

with copies

> > > to all the Jagadguru Shankracharyas and Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan

besides all

> > > the leading jyoitisha magazines etc.

> > >

> > > AKK

> > >

> > > Tel…… E-mail: jyotirved@

> > >

> > > ALL INDIA CALENDAR REFORM COMMITTEE

> > >

> > > ………

> > >

> > > Delhi-110085 (India)

> > >

> > > July 17, 2004

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > A humble request that we should not mourn on the day of " festival

of

> > > lights " i.e. we should not celebrate Pitramavasya on the day of

actual

> > > Dipavali (Gujarati New Year!) on October 13, 04.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Every festival has a criterion. We celebrate Independence Day on

August 15

> > > every year. Why? Because India gained independence on that day. It

is

> > > immaterial whether August 15 is a Sunday or a Monday or Shravana

or Bhadra.

> > > Similarly, for celebrating religious festivals, our shastras have

fixed

> > > certain criteria. And as we know, fasts and festivals are

celebrated for

> > > the peace and welfare of ourselves and our kith and kin.

Consequently, if

> > > we do not adhere to the criteria/tenets fixed by the shastras,

those very

> > > fasts and festivals will do us more harm than good. Same is the

case with

> > > Muhurtas. We must therefore know the criteria.

> > >

> > > E.g. for Vasanti Navaratra, viz. the lunar New Year, the criterion

is

> > > " Chaitra Shukla Pratipat " and for Rama Navmi it is " Chaitra Shukla

Navmi " .

> > > We must therefore know as to when Chaitra Shukla Paksha starts.

This

> > > information has to be based on the Vedas, Puranas and other

shastras as well

> > > as astronomy/geography , both ancient i.e. sidhantic and modern.

Let us see

> > > these criteria one by one:

> > >

> > > 1. The Vedas: All the four Vedas, Brahmanas and Upanasihadas etc.

> > > state that the year comprises six seasons of two months each.

Shishira-ritu

> > > viz. winter and the month of Tapah start simultaneously with

Uttarayana viz.

> > > Winter Solstice i.e. the shortest day of the year. That very month

is also

> > > known as Magha. It is followed by other months viz. Tapasya

(Phalguna) and

> > > (Vasanta ritu comprising) Madhu (Chaitra) and Madhav (Vaishakha).

Thus

> > > solar Chaitra is the third month from the date of Winter Solstice.

> > > Therefore, it should start these days three months after December

21 i.e.

> > > around February 20. In fact, it started on February 19 in 2004.

> > >

> > > 2. Vedanga Jyotisha: The earliest recorded work on Vedic astronomy

> > > is Vedanga Jyotisha also known as Rik/Yajur Jyotisha by Lagadha.

It was

> > > compiled around thirteenth century BCE i.e. about 3300 years back,

most

> > > probably in Kashmir. The fifth and the sixth verses of the same

are:

> > > swarakramete Somarkau yada sakam savasavav,

> > >

> > > syat-tadadiyugam maghas-tapah shuklo dinam-tyajah

> > >

> > > " When the sun and the moon while moving in the sky, come to

> > > Vasava (Dhanishtha) star together, then the Yuga, the Magha

(month) the

> > > Tapas (season), the light half of the month, and the winter

solstice

> > > (Uttarayana) , all commence together "

> > >

> > > prapadyate shavishshthadav suryachandramsav- udak

> > >

> > > sarparde dakshinarkastu Magha shravanayoh sada

> > >

> > > " The sun and the moon turn towards North in the beginning of

Dhanishtha and

> > > towards South in the middle of Ashlesha. The sun always does this

(turn

> > > north) in the month of Magha and (turn south) in Shravana

respectively "

> > >

> > > Vedanga Jyotisha has made it clear in its seventh mantra that by

> > > Uttaryana it means really the shortest day of the year instead of

some

> > > imaginary Uttarayana like January 14 of some Panchangakars of

these days:

> > >

> > > dharma vridhir apam prasthah kshapa hras udag-gatav

> > > dakshine-tau viparyastav shanmuhurtyaynen tu

> > >

> > > " During the sun's northward journey (six months of Uttarayana) the

day

> > > increases by one Prastha measure of water and the night becomes

short.

> > > During the southward journey (six months of Dakshinayana) , the

conditions

> > > reverse. The increase (of time) during an ayana is equal to six

muhurtas " .

> > > (S. B. Dikshit's translation for all the three mantras)

> > >

> > > Further, as everybody knows, and as every Panchanga indicates,

> > > Vasanta (Spring) starts exactly on the day of Madhu i.e. February

19/20. It

> > > is a geographical phenomenon and cannot be wished away or altered.

How could

> > > then Vasanti Navratra start on March 21, 2004 after one month

after the

> > > start of the month of Madhu i.e. the real Vasanta (Spring)?

> > >

> > > Thus there is absolutely no doubt that the Vasanti Navratras

> > > which we are celebrating these days are not on the correct days as

per

> > > either the Vedas or the Vedanga Jyotisha or the phenomenon of

seasons. But

> > > then why are we celebrating them on wrong days? Because our

panchangakars,

> > > including the Rashtriya Panchanga do not tell us the correct days!

Is it

> > > that they do not know the correct criteria/days of these phenomena

> > > themselves?

> > >

> > > Madhava cannot be equal to Chaitra if it is equal to Mesha and

Vasanti

> > > Navratraas cannot wait for more than a month after the start of

Vasanta

> > > Ritu!: If you look at any Panchanga, including the Rashtriya

Panchanga, in

> > > any language, you will find that they have mentioned the start of

the month

> > > of Madhu and Vasanta Ritu on that date viz. February 19, 2004.

Rashtriya

> > > Panchanga lists the month starting with February 19 as the Vedic

Mina. The

> > > first New Moon (Shukla Pratipat) after the solar Chaitra i.e.

Madhu (Vedic

> > > Mina as per the Rashtriya Panchanga) is thus Chaitra Shukla

Pratipat. It was

> > > on February 21 in 2004. As such, the real Vasanti Navratras

started on

> > > February 21, 2004. It is known as Navreh in Kashmir, Gudi Padva in

> > > Maharashtra and Ugadi in Andhra etc. That would have satisfied the

criterion

> > > of the Vedas that madhuscha madhavashcha vasantikav ritu

(Yajurveda Samhita

> > > 4/4/11/1) i.e. Madhu (Chaitra) and Madhava (Vaishakha) are the

months of

> > > Vasanta i.e. Spring Season. Obviously, Chaitra Shukla Paksha is

the start

> > > of the first lunar month of Vasanta as per all the Vedas also.

> > >

> > > Naturally, since as per all the Panchangas, Vasanta Ritu started

on February

> > > 19, 2004, the solar Chaitra also should have started on that date

of Madhu

> > > i.e. February 19 but ironically it was made to start on March 14

and the

> > > Rashtriya Panchanga starts it (Chaitra) on March 21 every year,

when Madhava

> > > i.e. Vaishakha is supposed to start as per all the Vedas and

Puranas.

> > > Surprisingly, Rashtriya Panchanga itself calls this month (March

21) as

> > > Vedic Mesha and Madhava! How they can call Mesha and Madhava as

Chaitra,

> > > they only can say! Accordingly, the Lunar Chaitra was made to

start on March

> > > 21 (which should have been actually Vaishakha Shukla paksha!)

instead of

> > > February 21! When Vasanta Ritu started on February 19, 2004,

according to

> > > all the Panchangas, the first shukla pratipat after that, which

was on

> > > February 21, 2004, should naturally have been Vasanti Navratra!

Thus the

> > > solar Chaitra and the Navratras, both, were " postponed " exactly by

one month

> > > against the injunctions of all the Vedas. Why? Because either our

> > > panchangakars themselves have no knowledge about the criteria of

festivals

> > > or they are making a fool of us deliberately!

> > >

> > > Vasanta Panchami in mid-winter: Then again, do you know when we

were asked

> > > to celebrate Vasanta Panchami by these very panchangakars

according to whom

> > > Vasanti navratras started on March 21? January 26, 2004! That

means Vasanta

> > > Panchami was celebrated two months before even their own Vasanta

Shukla

> > > Pratipat! Only the insane and dimwitted can celebrate Spring in

mid-Winter!

> > > Evidently, either our panchangakars are either themselves insane

and

> > > dimwitted or they treat us like that!

> > >

> > > Ramanavmi: Goswami Tulsidas says in his immortal

> > > Ramacharitamanasa:

> > >

> > > navmi tithi Madhumas punita, sukalpachha abhijit hariprita

> > >

> > > " Shri Ram was born on navmi tithi of shukla paksha in the month of

Madhu, in

> > > Abhijit muhurta " .

> > >

> > > We have seen that Madhu or Chaitra and Spring (Vasanta) both

commence

> > > simultaneously around February 19 every year as per the Vedas and

Vedanga

> > > Jyotisha. In fact they are synonyms of one another. Let us now see

other

> > > authorities in this regard:

> > >

> > > 3. Vishnu-dharmortarap urana: As per " Alberuni's India " , in 11th

> > > century-India all the festivals were decided as per the criteria

of

> > > Vishnu-dharmotarapu rana. It says in 3/9/4-5

> > >

> > > …chaitro madhur-iti smritah,

> > >

> > > vaishakho madhavah proktah, shuchir jyeshthah udahritah

> > >

> > > shuklah proktastatha ashado nabhah shravan ishyete,

> > >

> > > praushthapado nabhasyashcha ishashch ashvayujah smritah

> > >

> > > urjakhyah kartikah prokto margshirshah sahastatha

> > >

> > > sahasya paush ityukto maghah syat tap eva cha

> > >

> > > phalgunashcha tapasyakhyo maso…

> > >

> > > " (i) Chaitra is known as Madhu (or Madhu is known as Chaitra)!

(ii)

> > > Vaishakha as Madhava; (iii) Jyeshtha as Shuchih; (iv) Ashadha as

Shuklah (or

> > > Shukrah); (v) Nabhah as Shravana; (vi) Praushthapada (Bhadrapada)

as

> > > Nabhasya; (vii) Ashvayuja (Ashvina) as Ishah; (viii) Urja as

Kartika; (ix)

> > > Margashirsha as Saha; (x) Sahasya as Pausha; (xi) Magha as Tapah

and (xii)

> > > Phalguna as Tapasya. "

> > >

> > > As we have seen above, Madhu started on February 19 and Chaitra

> > > Shukla Pratipad started on Februrary 21 which means Ramanavmi

should have

> > > been on February 29, 2004. Our panchangakars (including, of

course, the

> > > Rashtriya Panfhanga!) made us celebrate Ramanavmi on March 30,

2004, whereas

> > > Madhu ended on March 20 and the real Chaitra Shuklapaksha on March

7! Why

> > > did they compel us to celebrate it on a wrong day†" nay,

even in a wrong

> > > month? Because they know fully well that in spite of claiming to

be

> > > educated and intelligent people, we are not going to ask any

inconvenient

> > > questions! But then, are we really intelligent and educated if we

do not

> > > know anything about the criteria of our festivals? Or is it that

our

> > > panchangakars also are lacking in education and intelligence and

they do not

> > > know even ABC of our dharmashastras? Well, they alone can answer

that

> > > question for themselves!

> > >

> > > 4. Sidhantas: The earliest " most accurate (?!) " (spashta-taro

> > > savitrah) astronomical treatise of Indian astronomy is supposed to

be the

> > > Surya Sidhanta of 5th century AD. In Mana-adhyaya, verses 9-10, it

says:

> > > bhanor-makar Sankranteh shanmasa Uttarayanam

> > >

> > > karkyadestu tathaiv

> > > syat shanmasa dakshinayanam

> > >

> > > dwirashi natha ritavas

> > > tatoapi shishiradayah

> > >

> > > meshadav dwadashaite masaistaireva vatsarah

> > >

> > > " From Makar Sankranti start the six months of Uttarayana and from

Karkata

> > > Sankranti the six months of Dakshinayana. Each season starting

with

> > > Shishira (and Makara Sankranti) comprises two rashis (and) six

seasons make

> > > one year " .

> > >

> > > Lest there be any doubt as to what type of Rashis the Surya

Sidhanta

> > > is talking about, it

> > >

> > > makes it clear in Bhugoladhyaya, verses 57 to 62:

> > >

> > > meshadav to sada vridhir udaguttarto adhika

> > >

> > > devamshe cha kshapa hanir vipareetam tatha asure

> > >

> > > tuladav dyunishorvamam kshyay vridhav tayorubhe

> > >

> > > deshkranti vashan nitem tadvigyanam puroditam

> > >

> > > ayanante vilomena devasur vibhagayoh

> > >

> > > nadi shashtya sakrid ahar nishapi asmin sakrit

> > >

> > > tadantare api shashtyante kshayvridhav ahar-nishoh

> > >

> > > parto vipareeto ayam bhagolah parivartate.

> > >

> > > " During the half revolution beginning with Mesha, there is always

an excess

> > > of day to the north, in the hemisphere of the gods i.e.

Uttarayana-- -greater

> > > according to distance north---and a corresponding deficiency of

the night.

> > > In the hemisphere of the demons (Dakshinayana) , the reverse. In

the half

> > > revolution beginning with Libra (Tula) both the deficiency and

excess of day

> > > and night in the two hemispheres are the opposite of this. The

method of

> > > determining them, which is always dependent upon situation (desha)

and

> > > declination (kranti), has been before explained.

> > >

> > > " There occurs once, at the end of the sun's half revolution from

> > > solstice to solstice---( Uttarayana to Dakshinayana) a day of

sixty nadis and

> > > a night of the same length mutually opposed to one another, in the

two

> > > hemispheres of the gods and of the demons. In the intermediate

region, the

> > > deficiency and excess of day and night are within the limit of

sixty nadis

> > > beyond this sphere of asterisms (bha) revolves perversely " .

(Burgess'

> > > translation) .

> > >

> > > Two things are clear from the above to even a layman with a bit

> > > of knowledge of geography of primary school level about the

phenomenon of

> > > seasons: i) It is only around March 21 (Spring Equinox) Mesha

Sankranti

> > > every year that day and night are equal and the length of day in

the

> > > northern hemisphere starts increasing as compared to the length of

night.

> > >

> > > ii) Then around September 23 (Autumn Equinox) Tula Sankranti, when

> > > the day and night are again equal, the length of nights starts

increasing as

> > > compared to the length of days. And in the same order the day is

the

> > > shortest around December 21 (winter solstice) and longest around

June 21

> > > (Summer Solstice). These very Equinoxes and solstices are known as

Mesha,

> > > Karkata, Tula and Makar Sankranti respectively as per all the

sidhantas and

> > > shastras. There are no other such sankrantis either in the

sidhantas or

> > > modern astronomy.

> > >

> > > 5. Puranas: I have already quoted hundreds of proofs with

> > > chapter and verse in my Panchangas and other articles. It is no

use to

> > > repeat them here again. Suffice to quote a few only from a couple

of

> > > Puranas. First the Vishnupurana: 2/8/28-31 and 67-68

> > >

> > > ayanasyotarasyadav makaram yati bhaskarah

> > >

> > > tatah kumbham cha menam cha rashe rashyantaram dvija (28)

> > >

> > >

> > > trishu eteshu atha bhukteshu tato vaishuvatim gatim

> > >

> > > prayati savita kurvan ahoratram tatah samam (29)

> > >

> > > tato ratrih kshayam yati vardhate anudinam dinam

> > > (30)

> > >

> > > tatashcha mithunasyante param kashtham upagatah

> > >

> > > rashim karkatam prapya kurute dakshinayanam

> > > (31)

> > >

> > > " In the beginning of Uttarayana, the sun enters Capricorn

> > > (Makara Rashi) there from going to Kumbha and them Mina. After

having passed

> > > through these three signs, it just gains vishuvati (equinoctial)

speed

> > > resulting in the day and night being equal on Mesha. After that,

nights

> > > start decreasing and the days increasing correspondingly daily.

Then when

> > > the sun is in the end of Mithuna Rashi, i.e. when it is just at

the verge of

> > > entering Cancer, the day is the longest then and Dakshnayana

starts on that

> > > date " .

> > >

> > > Sharad vsantyor Madhye vishuvam to vibhavyete

> > >

> > > Tula mesh gate bhanav samratri divam tu tat

> > > (67)

> > >

> > > Karkatavasthite bhanav dakshiyanamuchete

> > >

> > > Uttarayanam api uktam makarasthe divakare

> > > (88)

> > >

> > > " In the midst of sharat ritu and vasanta ritu, vishuvas

(equinoxes) take

> > > place with the entry of the sun into Tula (Libra) and Mesha

(Aries)

> > > respectively and days and nights become equal on those two

sankrantis. The

> > > entry of sun into Cancer (Karkata) is known as dakshinayana

whereas its

> > > entry into Maraka is known as Uttarayana "

> > >

> > > Now Shrimadbhagavata, 5/21/4-6

> > >

> > > yada mesh tulyor vartate tada ahoratrani samanani bhavanti yada

vrishadishu

> > > panchasu cha rashishu charati tada ahani eva vardhante hrasati cha

masi masi

> > > ekaika ghatika ratrishu (4) yada vrishchikadishu panchasu

> > > vartate tada ahoratrani viparyayani bhavanti (5) yavad

dakshinayanam

> > > ahani vardhante yavad uttarayanam ratrayah (6)

> > >

> > > " When the sun enters Mesha and Tula days and nights are equal on

those dates

> > > and the day starts getting longer as compared to nights when the

sun passes

> > > through Vrisha etc. five rashis then days keep on increasing and

the nights

> > > decreasing by one ghati every month. (After the day and night have

become

> > > equal on Tula Sankranti) the nights keep on increasing during the

sojourn of

> > > five rashis of Vrishchika etc. In short, during Uttarayana days

keep on

> > > increasing till Dakshinayana and after that nights keep on

increasing " .

> > >

> > > Vishnurhdarmotarapu rana 3/8/6-8 says

> > >

> > > tula meshagate bhanav vishuvad dinam uchete,

> > >

> > > dhanvato mithunantashcha ayane soasya dakshine,

> > >

> > > " When the sun is in Mesha and Tula, they are the days of Vishuva

i.e. days

> > > and nights are equal then. From the end of Dhanu (start of Makara)

> > > Uttarayana starts and from the end of Mithuna (start of Karkata)

Dakshniyana

> > > starts "

> > >

> > > Any discussion on such topics is incomplete without appropriate

references

> > > from Shivamahapurana: We just quote one 5/51/54 from this Purana

below:

> > >

> > > madhavasya site pakshe tritiya ya akshayabida

> > >

> > > tasyam yo jagadambayah vratam kuryad atandritah…

> > >

> > > " The tritiya of Shukla paksha of Madhava (!) is know as akshayaya

tritiya.

> > > One who observes a fast for Jagadamba on that date (gets immortal

and

> > > thousand fold results) "

> > >

> > > It is to be noted here that Akshaya tritiya is to be observed in

> > > (lunar) Madhava that means according to Shiva-Mahapurana also

Vaishakha does

> > > not have any other existence besides Madhava! Thus the akshyaya

tritiya

> > > that we observed in 2003 on May 4, was against all the shastras

since solar

> > > Madhava had ended on April 20 and lunar Madhava on April 30! A

similar

> > > situation is going to crop up in 2005. We will be asked to

celebrate

> > > Akshaya tritiya on May 12, when solar Madhava will have ended on

April 20

> > > and lunar Madhava shukla paksha will start on April 8, 2005 which

means it

> > > should be celebrated actually on April 11, 2005!

> > >

> > > Now obviously, if as per all the Vedas, Vedanga Jyotisha, Surya

Sidhanta,

> > > Bhagavata, Vishnupurana, Vishnudharmotarapur ana and Shiva

Mahapurana etc.

> > > etc. solar Shravana is another name of Dakshinayana viz sun in

Karkata, it

> > > starts on June 21 in 2004. The first shukla pratipat after that is

on July

> > > 18. Therefore, that is the day when the Lunar Shravana starts in

2004 as

> > > per all the Vedas and Puranas etc. As such, Shravana Purnima viz

Raksha

> > > Bandhan and Amarnath Yatra etc. should be celebrated on July 31 in

2004.

> > > Why are our panchangakars asking us to celebrate it on August 29

instead?

> > > Only because they treat the entire Hindu society as ignorant fools

who have

> > > no idea about the criteria of any festivals! Or is it that the

> > > panchangakars do not know anything themselves but are just copying

from

> > > others like blind following blind?

> > >

> > > Similarly, Janmashtami should be celebrated on the

> > > Krishna-paksha Ashtami following that Shravana Purnima i.e. on

August 7 in

> > > 2004. But we are asked to celebrate it on September 6! Why? For

God's sake

> > > do ask your " Panditji " and let me know what he says!

> > >

> > > 6. To clinch the issue on the basis of Agama i.e. yogashastras, I

> > > will quote the master-yogi i.e. Acharya Abhinavgupta' s

Tantraloka: 6/114-116

> > >

> > >

> > > shatsu shatsu anguleshu arko hridayat makaradishu

> > >

> > > tishthan maghadikam shatkam kuryat tat-chotarayanam

> > >

> > > sankranti tritaye vrite bhukte chashtadashangule

> > >

> > > mesham prapte ravav punyam vishuvat par laukikam

> > >

> > > praveshe tu tulasthe arke tadev vishuvad bhavet

> > >

> > > Ih sidhi pradam chaitat dakshinayan- gam tatah

> > >

> > > The translation of these mantras, as per the commentary of

Jayaratha is,

> > > (Linking yogic kriyas to seasons, it says, " After every six

ungalas from the

> > > hirdaya (the pranas go to) Makara etc. and make Magha etc. six

such months

> > > from Uttarayana starting with sun's transit into Makara. From

Makra to

> > > Mithuna is Uttarayana and in Magha sun transits Makara Rashi so

till Ashada

> > > when the sun transits Mithuna, Uttarayana lasts, After having

crossed three

> > > sankrantis (of Uttarayana)†" eighteen unglas of Prana --=

vishuvat Sankranti

> > > arrives. Because on that day of Mesha sankranti the days and

nights are

> > > equal throughout the world that is why it is known as vishuvat.

When the

> > > sun enters Tula it is vishuva again " .

> > >

> > > I do not think that there should be any doubt now in anybody's

> > > mind as to how we are being taken for a ride by these

panchanga-makers. Or

> > > is it that those panchangakars themselves are being taken for a

ride by

> > > someone else either knowingly or unbeknown to them? In either

case, it is

> > > literally killing our dharma.

> > >

> > > As we have seen that Shravana Shukla Paksha starts from July 18,

2004,

> > > therefore, Bhadra Shukla paksha will start from August 17.

Naturally, the

> > > first Krishna Pratipat after that i.e. Ashvina Krishna Paksha is

the start

> > > of Pitrapaksha, which means it starts from August 31, 2004. As

such, the

> > > Purnima shradha of Pitrapaksha falls on August 29, 2004, whereas

the

> > > Pitramavasya is actually on September 14, 2004. And by the same

logic and

> > > criterion Sharadiya Navaratras start from September 15 and Kartika

Amavasya

> > > falls exactly after about one month i.e. on October 13, 2004. And

that is

> > > the world famous festival of lights viz Dipavali! But tragically,

our

> > > panchanga-makers advise us to mourn on that day i.e. we are

advised to

> > > celebrate Pitraamavasa then! Why? Because they know that we have

become

> > > immune to all such things and are worried only about financial

gains or

> > > losses but not about our dharma! But we must know that by

" mourning " on the

> > > day of actual Dipavali we will be losers not only financially but

in every

> > > worldly and spiritual sphere like that of the erstwhile ruling

party! So

> > > whether we mourn or burst crackers on the actual Dipavali (October

13), it

> > > is up to us now!

> > >

> > > 7. Primary School level Geography: Let us see the situation

> > > in the light of modern astronomy/geography . Initially, I was

myself peeved

> > > as to why the ayana and vishuva (Makara, Mesha, Karkata and Tula)

sankrantis

> > > had been praised to the skies by our Rishis, so much so that they

say that

> > > it is difficult even for yogis to catch the actual moment of such

sankrantis

> > > and any charities or fasts on such occasions yield thousand-fold

results!

> > >

> > > Let me explain it in a manner that is as non-technical as

possible:

> > >

> > > We know that the earth hurtles around the sun at about 30

kilometres per

> > > second. (2) It also rotates on its axis, causing days and nights

(3) The

> > > equator is " precessing " at tremendous speeds. (4) Because the

ecliptic is

> > > inclined to the equator (obliquity of ecliptic) the earth/sun

reaches the

> > > minimum/maximum declination i.e. it is at the minimum/maximum

distance from

> > > the equator during its revolution of the sun at particular points

of time.

> > > The maximum obliquity of the ecliptic has remained around

23°28' over the

> > > last couple of centuries. Therefore that is the maximum

north/south

> > > declination that the sun/earth can attain these days during its

journey via

> > > the ecliptic. On that declination depends the phenomenon of

seasons, which

> > > is also directly responsible for increase/decrease in day/night

durations.

> > > The sun attains the maximum northern declination of about

23° 27' on June

> > > 21. That means it is at a maximum northern distance from the

equator on

> > > that date. That is thus the last day of the summer season when the

day is

> > > the longest and varsha ritu starts. The sun (actually the earth)

has then to

> > > stop for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- - before

climbing down

> > > from that " high pedestal " of North declination! That fleeting

moment is the

> > > real crucial moment and we can only " calculate " it correctly to

some extent

> > > with our computers with microprocessor speeds in GHz that also

only with the

> > > data from NASA and other overseas observatories and not from our

> > > panchanga-makers including the Rashtriya Panchanga! This very

moment of

> > > " U-turn " in the declination of the sun is the real dakshinayana as

the earth

> > > has reached the maximum declination of south or the sun the

maximum

> > > declination of north viz. 23° 27' and has to turn back from

there. This is

> > > also known as Karkata Sankranti of the sun as the sun lies

directly over the

> > > tropic of Cancer (Karka-Rekha) on that date. I am sure everybody

has read

> > > that much of geography in his primary school days! There cannot be

any

> > > other Karkata Sankranti as per any shastra or sidhanta or modern

> > > astronomy/geography since there is no other Karka Rekha (Tropic of

Cancer)

> > > or any other longest day of the year!

> > >

> > > Similar is the case on December 21, when the sun reaches the

maximum south

> > > declination (of around 23° 27') i.e. when the sun is at a

maximum southern

> > > distance from the equator. It has to stop then for a fleeting

moment---less

> > > than a nanosecond again--- before " turning " back (U-turn!) from

that high

> > > pedestal. That fleeting moment is the real Uttarayana of the sun

known as

> > > Makara Sankranti since the sun is directly on the tropic of

> > > Capricorn--- Makara-Rekha- --on that date. There is absolutely no

other

> > > Makara Sankranti either as per the shastras or sidhantas or modern

> > > astronomy/geography since there is no other Makara-Rekha nor any

other

> > > shortest day of the year! That also is primary school level

geography!

> > >

> > > Similarly, during its sojourn around the sun; the earth, the

equator and the

> > > ecliptic join together for a fleeting moment---here also less than

a

> > > nanosecond-- when the longitude, latitude, declination and right

ascension of

> > > the sun/earth are zero! The sun (actually the earth) is in exact

> > > " conjunction " with the ecliptic and the equator! It is thus a

" Triveni " and

> > > that is the moment of Spring Equinox. With the declination of the

sun being

> > > zero degrees South it has to start moving away (cross the equator)

again

> > > from that " conjunction of the equator " from that moment of zero

degrees

> > > longitude-cum- latitude- cum-declination- cum-right ascension!

That fleeting

> > > moment is Vishuva †" Mesha Sankranti of the sun (Tula

Sankranti of the

> > > earth)! It is Vishuva because the earth is conjunct with the

Vishuvat Rekha

> > > i.e. the Equator. That is the moment when days and nights are

really equal

> > > throughout the globe. That is the zero " moment/point " for all the

> > > calculations of longitude, Right Ascension, Declination etc. and

it is known

> > > as Vernal Equinox. Vishuva also means, as per Jayaratha, the

commentator of

> > > Tantraloka, the days when " days and nights are equal " . Spring

Equinox also

> > > means the same thing i.e Equi-nox: day is equal to night in the

midst of the

> > > spring season! This is the real Vaishakhi and the sun enters

Uttara Gola

> > > then i.e. it starts gaining in northern declination! There is no

other

> > > Vishuvat Rekha (Equator) with which the earth can be " conjunct "

during

> > > Spring and therefore there cannot be any other Vishuva or Mesha

Sankranti

> > > since day and night are not equal during Spring on any other day.

All the

> > > panchangakars list Uttara-gola on that date but then why do they

want us to

> > > celebrate Vaishakhi/Vaishakha di/Meshadi i.e. solar New Year on

April 14/15!

> > > Because they know that we do not know ABC of geography! Or is it

that they

> > > do not know it themselves?

> > >

> > > Then again after six months of that phenomenon, a similar

situation comes

> > > again, when the longitude and Right ascension of the sun are 180

degrees

> > > (earth zero degrees). The longitude of the sun also can be taken

as zero

> > > degrees on that date if we measure it from Autumn Equinox instead

of from

> > > Vernal Equinox! The equator, the earth and the ecliptic have a

confluence

> > > for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- -again! As the

earth is

> > > conjunct the equator i.e. Vishuvat Rekha again, it is also known

as

> > > Vishuva----Autumn Equinox (Jala Vishuva or Tula Sankranti) around

September

> > > 23. It is the midpoint (second month) of the Sharat-ritu. (That is

why

> > > Sharadiya Navaratras should start with the first Shukla Pratipat

after

> > > Sharat Ritu starts---on September 15 in 2004†" and not when

Sharat-kala is

> > > almost over†" October 14, 2004----as is being done by our

panchangamakers) .

> > >

> > > The declination of the sun is zero degrees at that particular

moment.

> > > Again, all the panchangakars list it as " the sun enters dakshina

gola " as

> > > the sun (after crossing the Equator) starts gaining southern

declination

> > > from that moment. There cannot be any other Tula Sankranti/Jala

Vishuva as

> > > the earth is not conjunct Equator---and thus the day and night are

not

> > > equal---on any other day in Autumn! But then these panchangakars

make us

> > > celebrate Tula Sankranti on October 14/15! Why? Only because they

will

> > > lose their sinful crumbs if the tell us the facts! Or is it that

they do

> > > not know the facts themselves? A sad state of affairs, in either

case!

> > >

> > > Naturally, in ancient times, it was almost impossible for ordinary

mortals

> > > to calculate accurately to the nearest minute, leave alone the

nearest

> > > second, such phenomena as lasted hardly for nanoseconds! Really,

hats off

> > > to our Rishis! Obviously, our present " Vamadevas " and " Parasharas "

who

> > > advocate such Mesha etc. sankrantis as do not exist at all, are a

slur on

> > > the real Rishis and such fakes must be banished without delay from

this land

> > > of real Rishis.

> > >

> > > 8. Day-to-day experience: In fact, we do not need to brush up

> > > even our primary school level geography since our day to day

experience also

> > > tells us that the sun does not rise daily from the same place. It

is

> > > exactly above the equator (bhumadhya-rekha) on March 20/21

dividing the day

> > > into two " equal halves " of 12 hours each! That is why it is known

as

> > > Vasanta-Sampat or Vishuva or Mesha Sankranti or Madhava! It does

not rise on

> > > any other day from that point till its revolution around the sun

is

> > > complete. (That is why there cannot be two Spring Equinoxes or two

Mesha

> > > Sankrantis in a year!). After that date, we observe it rising in

further

> > > north (Uttara-gola! ) till June 21. And that is what is known as

> > > Dakshinayana Day or Karkata Sankranti or Nabhah (start of Varsha

Ritu) and

> > > there cannot be any other Karka Sankranti as there cannot be

another longest

> > > day at all for the next 365 days! From that moment onwards the sun

stops

> > > rising towards north but turns back from there towards dakshina

(south) till

> > > it is exactly above the equator again on September 22/23, dividing

the day

> > > once again into two " equal halves " of 12 hours each. That day is

known as

> > > Sharat Sampat (Autumn Equinox) or Tula Sankranti or Vishuva or

Urja and the

> > > day and night are again equal on that date. Obviously, there

cannot be

> > > another Tula Sankranti for at least next 365 days! From that date

onwards it

> > > moves i.e. keeps on rising towards south (Dakshina Gola) rising in

extreme

> > > southern direction on December 21. That is the Uttarayana day

since from

> > > that date the sun stops moving further south and starts turning

towards

> > > north. It is this very day that is known as world famous Makara

Sankranti or

> > > Pongal or Udagayana or Tapah! That was the day for which Bhishma

was

> > > waiting to shed off his mortal coil! There cannot be another

Makara

> > > Sankranti as there cannot be another shortest day for the next 365

days from

> > > that date onwards!

> > >

> > > 9. We have made a laughing stock of ourselves: Now we can see for

> > > ourselves as to how artificial, illogical, unscientific and

irrational and,

> > > above all, anti-Vedic our Makara, Mesha, Karkata and Tula

Sankrantis are

> > > these days which are celebrated on January 14, April 14, July 14

and October

> > > 14 instead of December 21, March 21, June 21 and Sept. 23

respectively! All

> > > the world is laughing at us that we do not know even the actual

days of

> > > solstices and equinoxes! When these very four cardinal points are

such

> > > topsy-turvy how can the other sankrantis (solar ingresses) be

correct! As

> > > these panchangakars do not let the solar months start from proper

days,

> > > lunar months also are made to lag behind by at least one month!

> > >

> > > And we can rest assured that what is illogical, unscientific and

irrational

> > > could never have been advised by our dharmashastras, as seen

above. It is

> > > only our panchangakars who are prescribing such farcical festivals

and

> > > fairs! Why? Because they are worse than Duryodhana. Why? Because

> > > Duryodhana had the courage to admit that though he could

differentiate

> > > between Dharma and Adharma yet he was in no mood to follow Dharma

and desist

> > > from Adharma! But these panchangakars do not have the courage to

admit that

> > > they have been fleecing the entire Hindu society for the last

several

> > > centuries just for some crumbs and should stop now from spreading

that

> > > adharma further. Or is it that they are so insensitive to even the

natural

> > > phenomena like sunrise and sunset or winter and summer that they

cannot

> > > differentiate between a natural Mesha Sankranti and an artificial

one? But

> > > then it is equally our fault as we never questioned them about the

criteria

> > > they adopted for such festivals/phenomena !

> > >

> > > 10. Muhurtas: When the dates of sankrantis and lunar months are

> > > wrong how can the muhurtas fixed on such basis be correct? No

wonder we are

> > > celebrating marriages during the actual shradha-paksha and

" enjoying "

> > > shradhas during the period actually auspicious for marriages!

> > >

> > > CRC Report: It must be put on record that even the Saha Calendar

Reform

> > > Committee had warned in no uncertain terms about the situation

these

> > > panchangamakers have created for us, and I quote, " In continuing

to follow

> > > the nirayana system, the Hindu calendar makers are under delusion

that they

> > > are following the path of dharma. They are actually committing the

whole

> > > Hindu society to adharma " (Page 260 of the Report of the Calendar

Reform

> > > Committee, 1955)

> > >

> > > Earlier these Panchanga-makers used to boast (wrongly though)

> > > that as they made correct predictions on the basis of such

(imaginary)

> > > rashis that is why they were following them for festivals also.

But now even

> > > that " gas-ball " has been deflated since they have met their

Waterloo with

> > > the failure of their predictions about NDA forming the Government

under

> > > Atalji with the result that these Panchanga makers themselves are

in

> > > mourning these days! (Please see the attachment proving that there

are no

> > > rashis, much less astrology in the Vedas!)

> > >

> > > In view of the above, I am listing below some of the most

> > > important festivals from June 1 till December 31, 2004, as per all

the

> > > Vedas, shastras, sidhantas and modern astronomy. Just celebrate

them

> > > accordingly and do confront your panchangamaker/ panditji with

these

> > > unpleasant facts because unless and until we revolt against this

anyay

> > > (injustice), they will continue to hurtle us towards the abyss of

adharma by

> > > making us mourn on Dipavali!

> > >

> > > There is a saying that you can take a horse to the river but you

cannot make

> > > it drink water! I have done my job by pointing out all the glaring

> > > anomalies. I have substantiated my arguments with all the proofs

in a

> > > nutshell which even a layman can understand. It is up to the

readers

> > > whether they want to be like vegetables being tossed by

panchangamakers

> > > (including the Rashtriya Panchanga) or they want to really have

some zest

> > > for real dharma!

> > >

> > > Please feel free to email or post this letter-cum-request to

anybody you

> > > like since everybody must join this dharmayudha for streamlining

our

> > > calendar.

> > >

> > > With best regards,

> > >

> > > Yours sincerely,

> > >

> > > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> > >

> > > ………

> > >

> > > (Email: jyotirved@ Tel: 27516483)

> > >

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