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Shri Darshaney Lokeshji,

Jai Shri Ram!

In this age of internet, every imported Vamadeva is more than

willing to teach us “Vedic astrology” for which he does not expect

any remuneration from us.  But as the saying goes, there are no free lunches! 

They are now teaching us even our dharmashastras, as to when to

celebrate the punyakala of  Uttarayana and so on even if they cannot read those

dharmashastras upside down themselves!

Personally, I think Hindus are more to be blamed for all such

“free tuitions” since we are prepared to embrace any “sermon”

 in the name of “Vedic astrology” especially if it comes from some

videshi!

Take the case of Winter Solstice of 2009.  As per page 151 of

“Astronomical Tables of the Sun, Moon and Planets” by Jean Meeus

(published by Willmann-Bell, Inc; USA, 1995) it is to take place on December

21, 2009 at 17 hrs  47mts 53 seconds, Dynamical Time.  And as per Swiss

Ephemeris, the solar longitude at that time will be  29 sa 59'59.9920.  Thus it

means that Jean Meeus is as correct as the Swiss Ephemeris.  Let us cross check

it with Vishnu.exe program in Hinducalendar forum.  For that time on December

21, 2009, as per that program, the longitude of the sun is 270 degrees 0 mts. 1

second!  In other words, Vishnu program is also as accurate as either of the

above named programs/data!  With an average rate of motion of one degree per

day in case of the sun, it will not take more than 24 seconds for that luminary

to cover one arc-second of longitude and that is an insignificant variation  in

a program that embraces a span of more than 22000 years from 10000 BCE to 12030

AD.

With Delta Time on December 21, 2009 being  about 70 seconds plus,

the UT for that period is 17hrs 46 mts 43 seconds.  By adding 5.5 hrs to the

same as difference for UT and IST, we get 23 hrs 16 mts 43 sec IST. 

Thus whichever way we look at it, your assessment that the actual

timing of Uttarayana is 11-17 pm IST on December 21, 2009 is quite correct!

Now coming to Makar Sankranti!  It has become a hammering rod for

most of the videshis especially as the Hindus go into deliriums the moment they

learn that some “foreigner” is also going to celebrate it!  What

Makar Sankranti are they talking about, they do not know it themselves

actually!  We have at least half a dozen very prominent Makar Sankrantis these

days!  There is (1) Surya Sidhanta (calculations) Makar Sankranti, a (ii)  Grahalaghava

Makar Sanrkanti, (ii) Lahiri Makar Sankranti, (iii) Ramana Makar Sankranti, (iv)

Muladhara Makar Sankranti, (v) Raivata Paksha Makar Sankranti and so on!  Then

we have also another Makar Sankranti as per the Puranas, which is actually a ditto

coy of the Surya Sidhanta  of Maya the melccha, since that is actually nothing

but a so called Sankranti based on Greco-Chaldean Astrology, which Western

jyotishis are using these days.  Actually, most of the videshi jyotishis, in

order to increase the clientele of their Sayana jyotisha, do so on the

shoulders of the same Makara Sankranti just as Lahiriwalas celebrate a Lahir

Makar Sanrkanti in order to impress their clients about the accuracy of that

Rashichakra!

Dr. Wilkinson is perhaps confusing the Uttarayana for the same Pauranic

Makar Sankranti!  But his working out the timing is really surprising!  On second

thoughts, I do not think it is actually that surprising, since “Vedic

astrologers”, whether Sayana or nirayana or imported or indigenous do not

do any calculations themselves but they just go by computer programs for making

horoscopes based on data from JPL/NASA!  They have, as such, no idea about the

difference in LMT and IST since what Dr. Wilkinson has done actually is he has not

only calculated the Uttarayana Time wrong by ten minutes, since as against

11-17 PM IST he has calculated it for 11-07 PM IST  and again made a “double

whammy” of Local Time of Uttarayana, which he fancies to call Makar

Sankranti,  at a time that is less by 20 minutes from IST since Kodaikalnal has

a longitude east of 77.29 degrees which is less by five degrees i.e. twenty

minutes of time from the Central Station of India, wherefrom IST is calculated! 

 

Obviously, Dr. Wilkinson  has no idea of the fact that then he

will have to synchronize his watches also to Local Time of Kodaikanal, in order

to celebrate a geocentric geographical phenomenon as per the Local time of a

place in India instead of IST, but that will not change the timing of the phenomenon

itself!

Coming again to Makar Sanrkanti, if anybody, whether Lahiriwalas or

Ramanawalas or Surya Sidhantawalas or even Sayanawalas want to celebrate the

real Makar Sankranti of the Sun, they must do so on January 24, 2010 at 7hrs 15

mts. UT/GMT since the longitude of the sun will then be 304-11-17, which is the

exact longitude of Beta Capricorni star on that date!

That is the only date and time when the real “Makar

Sankranti” of the sun will take place between January 2009 and January 2010!

Jai Shri Ram!

A K Kaul

 

Re: Re: Calculation of Makar

Sankranti

 

Dear Robert ji,

Namastey.

I have checked the calculation and found correct. I wnat to see you something

more indulged

in this calculation and for that reason I am

not giving you my explaination of required ''why''.

"

but I

feel like we have the exact time. " I do not understand

what do you mean by this

sentense. You have used the word

'Darshany' as the verb 'done'. What type of english is this? More

over my name is Darshaney and not Darshany.

Darshaney means the son of Smt Darshani Devi i.e. it

pertains to my respected mother's name also

and for that, I wish if it could be spelled correctly. Would

you...?

Thanks for the interest.

Darshaney

Lokesh

 

 

Robert Wilkinson <robtw

" skambha " <skambha; sai

srinivasan <saisrinivasan; darshaneylokesh

Sun, 22 November, 2009 11:16:32 PM

Fw: Re: Calculation of Makar Sankranti

 

Thea,

I have been working on extrapolating the exact timing for the Winter Solstice

at Skambha. The time that I sent earlier of 21/12 at 11:07 pm was based on

Indian Standard Time which is calculated at Greenwich Time plus 5 ½ hours. If

you figure that 1 hour of Time equals 15 degrees of Longitude, 5 ½ hours of

time corresponds to a position 82.30 degrees of longitude East of Greenwich.

Kodaikanal, as we know, is at 77.29 degrees longitude East of Greenwich,

leaving a difference of -5 degrees. If 15 degrees of longitude equals 1 hour,

then 5 degrees of longitude equals 1/3 of an hour or 20 minutes. Therefore, if we

figure the exact moment of the Winter Solstice at Indian Standard Time (82.30

lon.) to be 21/12 at 11:07 pm, the timing at Skambha adjusted by -5 degrees

lon. will be 20 minutes earlier on 21/12 10:47 pm. You might have Darshany

double check my figures but I feel like we have the exact time.

Robert

 

 

 

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