Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Shri A. Sharmaji, Jai Shri Ram! <AKKji started this Hindu Calendar Reform movement and advocates a corrected calendar and according to the rules of the Vedic period. How do we know that AKKji's theories are correct and true and better and our current Hindu Calendar is not? > Right now you are discussing nakshatras vis-a-vis the Junction Stars vis-a-vis the Vedic rituals. As such, pl. do not involve extraneous issues to obfuscate the matter. Instead of exercising your grey matter just for nit-picking, pl. go through the correspondence of the Hinducalendar forum assiduously, if you want really to prove or disprove something there. Obviously, you are still unaware that I am asking suggestions from " learned " people like you as to whether Junction Stars of various nakshatra divisions do really have something to do with their namesake nakshatras or not? If yes, do we treat the junction stars as the midpoint of that namesake nakshatra or its starting point or ending point? Why should we do so? I have repeated it umpteen number of times that about this issue I am still groping in the dark myself! The crux of the matter is that if the Junction Stars have nothing to do with the namesake nakshatras, then who coined their names and why? In what way are they then relevant to the Hindu ethos? For your " ready reference " , the first time that we find any mention of Junctions Stars vis-a-vis namesake naksahtras is the Surya Siddhanta of Maya the mlechha! Could it be that he got the computations of those stars from Hipparchus or some other Greek or any foreign astronomer and it was only as a ruse that he implanted those Junction Stars in the Hindu psyche, just as he advised that all the useless, baseless and fundamentally wrong arguments of his Surya Siddhanta were " revealed " to him by none other than Surya Bhagwan in the fag end of last Satya Yuga, which " event " is supposed to have taken place, as per the same Maya the mleccha, at least 864,000 (Dwapara Yuga) plus 1,296,000 (Treta Yuga) i.e., 2,160,000 years back! Perhaps you must be aware that we have no evidence of human race, (hope Maya the mleccha was a human being instead of a " divine " " personality, as is claimed by " Vedic astrologers " ) going back to even a few hundred thousand years, leave alone a couple of milli0n years! In the Surya Siddhanta itself, there is a separate chapter “Bha-graha-yuti adhikara” i.e. “Chapter of the conjunction of asterisms and planets”. In fact, it is the same chapter that talks of the (Polar) longitudes and latitudes of Junction Stars and the methodology of calculating timings of conjunction of planets with those Junction Stars. By implication, even that methodology was revealed to Maya the mlechha by Sury Bhagwan! Why was topic of “conjunctions of asterisms and planets” included in that work when there is already a separate definition of nakshatras, equal divisions, starting from Ashvini-cum-Mesha, and ironically that Mesha rashis is so called sayana as per the same Siddhanta! So the discussion about nakshatras vis-à-vis Junction stars is wide open and once you arrive at some conclusion, if at all you arrive at any, you may test them in whatever way you want to. < If everything Vedic is so correct and true, then why you Indian Hindus are running away from Vedic heritage to England's English and America's Dollar and now the European Union's Euro? Why should non-Indian Hindus blindly believe what modern Hindus of India say in today's time? > You are contradicting your own statements! It appears you are more confused than anybody else! On the one hand you say, “If everything Vedic is so correct and true, then why you Indian Hindus are running away from Vedic heritage to England’s English and America’s Dollar and now the European Union’s Euro” and then in the same breath, you are saying, “Why should non-Indian Hindus blindly believe what modern Hindus of India say in today’s time”? How is all this haranguing relevant to the discussion at Hindu calendar forum? In this forum, nobody is asking anybody to start celebrating any festival or ritual that he/she is not already celebrating or to start observing any muhurta that he/she is not already observing! All that this forum is asking is that those who believe in celebrating festivals like Maha Shivaratri or Navaratras or Dipavali or so called Makar Samkranti etc., or observing muhurtas like Dhanurmas, Kharamas, Pitra-paksha etc. must do so as per the canons of those very works like the Vedanga Jyotisham, the Bhagavata, the Vishnu-Purana, Shiva Purana etc. etc. which are supposed to have prescribed those festivals or rituals or muhurtas etc. The efforts of this forum are to also make the entire Hindu community aware of the fact that we are being fleeced by “Vedic astrologers” in the name of “moola-nakshatram dosha” etc. when there is no such curse in any of the shastras! Hope the cobwebs have got cleared now! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul HinduCalendar , A Sharma <asharmanz wrote: HinduCalendar] Re: Any chance of Tests - Nakshatras AKKji, DLji, HMji, and Co., Vedic Rituals are material processes yielding material results. Therefore, why can not they be tested for their efficacy. Just because we do not know how to test them does not mean they can not be tested. AKKji started this Hindu Calendar Reform movement and advocates a corrected calendar and according to the rules of the Vedic period. How do we know that AKKji's theories are correct and true and better and our current Hindu Calendar is not? If AKKji is correct, how is he going to prove to and convince the non-believers? Therefore, proper and truth-yielding tests are required to prove either way. If everything Vedic is so correct and true, then why you Indian Hindus are running away from Vedic heritage to England's English and America's Dollar and now the European Union's Euro? Why should non-Indian Hindus blindly believe what modern Hindus of India say in today's time? Bhupendraji, BTW, who " pooh poohed " Lord Krishna? I recall that a " <HinduCalendar/post?postID=ZlbxnWFJKDyPY20HIaB oxqY7KJKLtZmc9C2jscnhG9Y-CZC9F-ocLnX8bULqSDEMbN1Q3ZMMIU2C4WlQg4teKyc> devisingh.rajput " wrote this: " you have rights to make choice but no right to have fruit of your choice...this krushna told to you......nothing deny of prediction.. .. " . If you are referring to this then you are mistaken and are jumping to conclusions. Regards, ASharma. --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Bhupendra Jamnadas < <HinduCalendar/post?postID=wjA95UkPBQUKZV05jh0 M8ANivFFgSxHzwflX5H5Vaw3zGjFXLBYBIeby5qrg50i2OC7wlvu8yMbs7PLGrg> b_jamna> wrote: What kind of replies am I reading in this group. Some days ago, someone was equating prediction to mathematics and virtually pooh poohed Lord Krishna. Now I read another member asking for testing of Rituals.. I am speechless. If people are not interested in subjects being discussed in this group, why pariticipate or even be a member? Bhupendra. --- On Tue, 3/1/10, A Sharma < <HinduCalendar/post?postID=lv5iCjcidKK8qVYtJDq RrfNsEKIw14VKP9WAD-aOThRlLtcGtSI9OE83eQOZmADXqNuCFBHqf9JoENE1> asharmanz wrote: Then how about testing using the Vedic Rituals which use the Nakshatras? ASharma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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