Graha Drishti - Context of Varga Sambandhas - Chandrashekhar ji

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Chandrashekharji,

 

Where in the shlokas you posted( The english

translation it suggests aspects in amshas). Am I

missing something here ?

 

e.g " When chadra is conjuct malefic and in navansha of

karka or vrishchika... " Now can we read this as

chandra is conjucnt a malefic in rashi and is in

navamsha of karka or vrishchik. No aspects are

involved.

 

I am not sure whether I am reading this right.

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

wrote:

 

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> You are right about there being mutual aspect of

> Saturn and Venus in the

> first part. But similar shloka is also there about

> Navamsha and there is

> a reasonable ground to think about whether the

> mutual aspect is one of

> the conditions or a condition that has to co-exist.

> Anyway I shall give

> you some other shlokas from Varaha Mihira, which

> either talk about

> aspects or occupation of certain navamsha without

> reference to rasi

> occupied by the grahas, which can make my point of

> specific instruction

> overriding the general rule of not looking for

> aspect in navamsha or

> reading the navamsha with respect to the rasi,

> valid. The from the first

> line of every shloka every alternate line is in

> Sanskrit99 font and from

> 2nd line again every alternate line is in ULW It

> fonts, should you not

> be able to see the letters.

>

> ANt> zizNyzuÉyaem & Rgge pt¼e

>

> antaù çaçinyaçubhayormågage pataìge

>

> ñas]yPlIhkivÔixguLmÉaj>,

>

> çväsakñayapléhakavidradhigulmabhäjaù|

>

> zae;I prSprg & ha<zgyae rvINÖae>

>

> çoñé parasparagåhäàçagayo ravéndvoù

>

> ]eÇe=wva yugpdekgyae> k«zae va.23,8.

>

> kñetre'thavä yugapadekagayoù kåço vä||23|8||

>

> _/When Chandra (Moon) is hemmed between two malefics

> and should Surya be

> in Makara (Capricorn) rasi the jataka is troubled by

> diseases like

> breathlessness, tuberculosis, spleen problems,

> disease of glands or some

> growth in stomach region or a disease called

> Vidradhi (abscess). If

> Surya (Sun) occupies Karka (Cancer) rasi and Chandra

> (Moon) occupies the

> Simha (Leo) rasi or should they occupy Karka and

> Simha navamsha

> respectively or should they be placed in either

> Karka or Simha navamsha

> the Jataka is weak and is the patient of shosha roga

> ( disease of

> emaciation)./_

>

> papalaeiktyae> istavinjyaerStSwyaevaRXyêkoe

>

> päpälokitayoù sitävanijayorastasthayorvädhyarük

>

> cNÔe kkRqv & iíka<zkgte papEyuRte guýêkoe,

>

> candre karkaöavåçcikäàçakagate päpairyute guhyarük|

>

> iñÇI ir>)xnSwyaerzuÉyaeíNÔaedye=Ste rvaE

>

> çvitré riùphadhanasthayoraçubhayoçcandrodaye'ste

> ravau

>

> cNÔe oe=vinje=Stge c ivklae y*kRjae veizg>.23,7.

>

> candre khe'vanije'stage ca vikalo yadyarkajo

> veçigaù||23|7||

>

> /_If Shukra (Venus) and Mangal (Mars), in 7^th

> bhava, are aspected by a

> malefic the jataka has a visible disease.When

> Chandra (Moon) is conjunct

> a malefic and occupying a navamsha of Karka or

> Vrishchika the jataka has

> guhya (hidden/ not visible to eye, incapable of

> diagnosis) disease. When

> the 12^th and the 2^nd bhava are occupied by

> malefics and Chandra

> (Moon) is in lagna with Surya (Sun) in the 7^th

> bhava, he gets white

> leprosy. If Chandra (Moon) is in the 10^th bhava,

> Mangal (Mars) is in

> the 7^th and should Shani (Saturn) occupy the 2^nd

> bhava from the Surya

> (Sun) the jataka is devoid of some organ (

> handicapped).

> _/

>

>

> There are numerous shlokas in umpteen astrological

> texts that give

> combinations for certain yogas that are based on the

> basis of aspects in

> Navamsha, but you can understand that at my age it

> is a bit difficult to

> go through all the texts and find them at short

> notice. I usually try to

> analyze a chart on the basis of fundamental

> principles of astrology

> instead of trying to remember all the yogas that are

> there is the 200 or

> more texts that I possess as my memory is not what

> it used to be. I am

> sure you will understand. You may also like to

> understand as to why a

> planet in debility in navamsha is treated

> debilitated even if it is in

> exaltation in rasi chart when the debility rasi of

> any graha is bound to

> be in at the very least 3 rasis. So surely that

> could not be related to

> navamsha in rasi alone.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Satish,

 

I think you are missing the point. Chandra is required to be in Simha

navamsha and Surya in Karka (cancer) navamsha or both in Karka or Simha

navamsha, without reference to rasi that needs to be occupied by them.

Thus it is obvious that not always navamsha with respect to a rasi only

is considered and the navamsha relation could be viewed on equal footing

with the rasi hence, in certain cases drishti therein can be considered.

I am giving shlokas to dispel the view that every time some reference is

made to navamsha it need not always mean with respect to a rasi. I have

also stated many a times that this is due to the fact that the aspects

or being in a navamsha can suggest certain multiple of degrees apart and

the same could be considered as aspect for ease of understanding. This

aspect in Navamsha will certainly not be the aspect equal to that of

rasi aspects which are based on multiples of 30 degrees. They would be

on the basis of multiples of 3 degrees 20 minutes. I have also posted a

shloka to Pradeep, in another mail where I have given a shloka from

Varaha Mihira which specifically asks for certain aspects to be seen in

navamsha and Dwaadashaamsha, in the same manner as in rasi charts. i

think you will also find that mail on the group. Kindly read it and let

me know your views.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

SPK wrote:

>

> Chandrashekharji,

>

> Where in the shlokas you posted( The english

> translation it suggests aspects in amshas). Am I

> missing something here ?

>

> e.g " When chadra is conjuct malefic and in navansha of

> karka or vrishchika... " Now can we read this as

> chandra is conjucnt a malefic in rashi and is in

> navamsha of karka or vrishchik. No aspects are

> involved.

>

> I am not sure whether I am reading this right.

>

> Thanks

>

> Satish

> --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

> <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>>

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > You are right about there being mutual aspect of

> > Saturn and Venus in the

> > first part. But similar shloka is also there about

> > Navamsha and there is

> > a reasonable ground to think about whether the

> > mutual aspect is one of

> > the conditions or a condition that has to co-exist.

> > Anyway I shall give

> > you some other shlokas from Varaha Mihira, which

> > either talk about

> > aspects or occupation of certain navamsha without

> > reference to rasi

> > occupied by the grahas, which can make my point of

> > specific instruction

> > overriding the general rule of not looking for

> > aspect in navamsha or

> > reading the navamsha with respect to the rasi,

> > valid. The from the first

> > line of every shloka every alternate line is in

> > Sanskrit99 font and from

> > 2nd line again every alternate line is in ULW It

> > fonts, should you not

> > be able to see the letters.

> >

> > ANt> zizNyzuÉyaem & Rgge pt¼e

> >

> > antaù çaçinyaçubhayormågage pataìge

> >

> > ñas]yPlIhkivÔixguLmÉaj>,

> >

> > çväsakñayapléhakavidradhigulmabhäjaù|

> >

> > zae;I prSprg & ha<zgyae rvINÖae>

> >

> > çoñé parasparagåhäàçagayo ravéndvoù

> >

> > ]eÇe=wva yugpdekgyae> k«zae va.23,8.

> >

> > kñetre'thavä yugapadekagayoù kåço vä||23|8||

> >

> > _/When Chandra (Moon) is hemmed between two malefics

> > and should Surya be

> > in Makara (Capricorn) rasi the jataka is troubled by

> > diseases like

> > breathlessness, tuberculosis, spleen problems,

> > disease of glands or some

> > growth in stomach region or a disease called

> > Vidradhi (abscess). If

> > Surya (Sun) occupies Karka (Cancer) rasi and Chandra

> > (Moon) occupies the

> > Simha (Leo) rasi or should they occupy Karka and

> > Simha navamsha

> > respectively or should they be placed in either

> > Karka or Simha navamsha

> > the Jataka is weak and is the patient of shosha roga

> > ( disease of

> > emaciation)./_

> >

> > papalaeiktyae> istavinjyaerStSwyaevaRXyêkoe

> >

> > päpälokitayoù sitävanijayorastasthayorvädhyarük

> >

> > cNÔe kkRqv & iíka<zkgte papEyuRte guýêkoe,

> >

> > candre karkaöavåçcikäàçakagate päpairyute guhyarük|

> >

> > iñÇI ir>)xnSwyaerzuÉyaeíNÔaedye=Ste rvaE

> >

> > çvitré riùphadhanasthayoraçubhayoçcandrodaye'ste

> > ravau

> >

> > cNÔe oe=vinje=Stge c ivklae y*kRjae veizg>.23,7.

> >

> > candre khe'vanije'stage ca vikalo yadyarkajo

> > veçigaù||23|7||

> >

> > /_If Shukra (Venus) and Mangal (Mars), in 7^th

> > bhava, are aspected by a

> > malefic the jataka has a visible disease.When

> > Chandra (Moon) is conjunct

> > a malefic and occupying a navamsha of Karka or

> > Vrishchika the jataka has

> > guhya (hidden/ not visible to eye, incapable of

> > diagnosis) disease. When

> > the 12^th and the 2^nd bhava are occupied by

> > malefics and Chandra

> > (Moon) is in lagna with Surya (Sun) in the 7^th

> > bhava, he gets white

> > leprosy. If Chandra (Moon) is in the 10^th bhava,

> > Mangal (Mars) is in

> > the 7^th and should Shani (Saturn) occupy the 2^nd

> > bhava from the Surya

> > (Sun) the jataka is devoid of some organ (

> > handicapped).

> > _/

> >

> >

> > There are numerous shlokas in umpteen astrological

> > texts that give

> > combinations for certain yogas that are based on the

> > basis of aspects in

> > Navamsha, but you can understand that at my age it

> > is a bit difficult to

> > go through all the texts and find them at short

> > notice. I usually try to

> > analyze a chart on the basis of fundamental

> > principles of astrology

> > instead of trying to remember all the yogas that are

> > there is the 200 or

> > more texts that I possess as my memory is not what

> > it used to be. I am

> > sure you will understand. You may also like to

> > understand as to why a

> > planet in debility in navamsha is treated

> > debilitated even if it is in

> > exaltation in rasi chart when the debility rasi of

> > any graha is bound to

> > be in at the very least 3 rasis. So surely that

> > could not be related to

> > navamsha in rasi alone.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

>

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