Chitra, Panca Siddhanta and Surya Siddhanta

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

It is stated in the Introduction to the Surya Siddhanta, translated by

E. Burgess, pp.xxx-xxxi, that Varaha Mihira reported in his Panca

Siddhanta a polar position of the Junction Star Chitra to be 180:50,

while the Modern version of the Surya Siddhanta gives to the Star, a

position of 180:00. Can anyone, who has access to both treatises,

verify and confirm this statement?

 

Thank you.

 

--

Best regards,

François

[Guest guest]

Dear François ji,

The statement is right - The longitude of Chitra as ancient Surya

sidhata (Written by Maya, student of Sage Surya; and collected by

Varaha Mihira) and as of modern Surya sidhanta differ. Ancient Indian

sages never considered Chitra as a junction star, but rather the

concept of starting point of Aries (Meshadi, Aswinyadi) was based on a

mathematical model depicting the rhythm of the solar system. The

conjunction of all the planets in a particular position as per that

mathematical model was of more importance. (In reality this perfect

conjunction does not occur, even though the planets would be very

close to each other). This is the fundamental concept behind the Yuga

system and the big numbers like 47200000 etc mentioned in Rigveda. The

value as per modern surya sidhanta is deviation from the original

concept, possibly a fault cause by lost knowledge about the

fundamental concept behind.

Possibly you will be also knowing that, position of Chitra is not

fixed, its position changes gradually. It was the star Moola (Meaning,

root; This star is near the center of Milky way galaxy) that served as

the base for the division of zodiac.

You may get better information if you contact Mr.Chandra Hari in any

of these email ids: chandrahari81, chandrahari18.

He has done a lot of research on the same, and published a detailed

treatise on the issue of Ayanamsa and the related controversies (and

thus mentions in detail the values mentioned in both Surya Sidhatas

and for the position of Chitra star)

He could provide you better information with quotes from both texts,

and supporting info.

P.S. I am no authority on the same, even though interested in all such

things.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Francois CARRIERE "

<surya.siddhanta wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> It is stated in the Introduction to the Surya Siddhanta, translated by

> E. Burgess, pp.xxx-xxxi, that Varaha Mihira reported in his Panca

> Siddhanta a polar position of the Junction Star Chitra to be 180:50,

> while the Modern version of the Surya Siddhanta gives to the Star, a

> position of 180:00. Can anyone, who has access to both treatises,

> verify and confirm this statement?

>

> Thank you.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

[Guest guest]

Dear François ji,

If you are more interested in Ayanamsa issue rather than the

position of Chitra star (many astrologers gets interested in the

position of Chitra star due to the Ayanamsa contraversy) then, the

following articles (present in the files section of

Ancient_Indian_Astrology ) about the Ayanamsa as discussed

by Chandrahari would be of help to you.

URL:

1)

Sreenadh/ True

Ayanamsa.doc

 

2)

Sreenadh/Hindu

Zodiac.pdf

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear François ji,

> The statement is right - The longitude of Chitra as ancient Surya

> sidhata (Written by Maya, student of Sage Surya; and collected by

> Varaha Mihira) and as of modern Surya sidhanta differ. Ancient Indian

> sages never considered Chitra as a junction star, but rather the

> concept of starting point of Aries (Meshadi, Aswinyadi) was based on a

> mathematical model depicting the rhythm of the solar system. The

> conjunction of all the planets in a particular position as per that

> mathematical model was of more importance. (In reality this perfect

> conjunction does not occur, even though the planets would be very

> close to each other). This is the fundamental concept behind the Yuga

> system and the big numbers like 47200000 etc mentioned in Rigveda. The

> value as per modern surya sidhanta is deviation from the original

> concept, possibly a fault cause by lost knowledge about the

> fundamental concept behind.

> Possibly you will be also knowing that, position of Chitra is not

> fixed, its position changes gradually. It was the star Moola (Meaning,

> root; This star is near the center of Milky way galaxy) that served as

> the base for the division of zodiac.

> You may get better information if you contact Mr.Chandra Hari in any

> of these email ids: chandrahari81, chandrahari18

> He has done a lot of research on the same, and published a detailed

> treatise on the issue of Ayanamsa and the related controversies (and

> thus mentions in detail the values mentioned in both Surya Sidhatas

> and for the position of Chitra star)

> He could provide you better information with quotes from both texts,

> and supporting info.

> P.S. I am no authority on the same, even though interested in all such

> things.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Francois CARRIERE "

> <surya.siddhanta@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > It is stated in the Introduction to the Surya Siddhanta,

translated by

> > E. Burgess, pp.xxx-xxxi, that Varaha Mihira reported in his Panca

> > Siddhanta a polar position of the Junction Star Chitra to be 180:50,

> > while the Modern version of the Surya Siddhanta gives to the Star, a

> > position of 180:00. Can anyone, who has access to both treatises,

> > verify and confirm this statement?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > --

> > Best regards,

> > François

> >

>