Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji, I just searched for the mail I wrote about " The period of Parasara " in vedic astrology group. It is given below. Love, Sreenadh > Sreenadh <sreelid> wrote: > Dear Mohan ji, > You asked: > > the first thing I would like to know is how you > > have arrived at the conclusions that Parashara Samhita > > is of 1500 BCE. > The following is my answer to that question: > ================================ (Start of article) > Period of Parasara > --------------------- > When Parasara, the author of Parasara Sidhantha, Parasara Samhitha and > Parasara Hora lived? Is it near to Mahabharatha period, which as per > some scholars is near to BC. 3100? > Or are these texts are written by some Parasara of the Parasara Kula > of later age? > It is a known fact that this Parasara is the son of the Rishi called > Sakthi who was also a well known person who wrote texts related to > Astrology. There is a sloka in Parasara Samhita (quoted in the Vyakhya > of Varaha Hora by Bhattolpala), which helps us in determining the > period of Parasara, the author of BPHS. The sloka is quoted below: > Srevishtadyath poushnantham charatha sisiraH > VasanthaH poushnanthyath rohinyantham > Soumyadyath sarpardham greeshmaH > Pravid sarpardhath dhasthantham > Chithradyath indrardham sarth > Hemantho Jyeshardhath vaishnavantham > (Parasara Samhitha) > This sloka indicates that at the time of Parasara, Utharayana was > from the beginning of Dhanishta to the middle of Aslesha. That > happened near to BC.1400 as per astronomical calculations. Therefore > it is sure that Parasara Samhitha was written around the period BC. > 1400. Now the question is, can we be sure that Parasara Hora and > Parasara Sidhantha was written by the same person? Yes, because it is > said that Parasara wrote 3 books on astrology - Parasara Sidhanta, > Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. How? What is the proof? In the > Vyakhya of Varaha Hora, Bhattolpala says: > Parasara Samhitha kevalamasmabhir drishtam nathu jathakam > Srooyathe skandha treyamithi Parasarasyethi. > (Varaha Hora - Bhattolpala Vyakhya) > Meaning, I have seen only Parasara Samhitha, and not Parasara Hora. > But I have heard that Parasara had written books for all the 3 > skandhas (i.e. Sidhantha, Samhitha and Hora). > From all these it is clear that Parasara of BC.1400 has written 3 > books, i.e. Parasara Sidhatha, Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. > [The game of time and space are curious. I have 3 scholars in my mind > while saying this - Bhattolpala (10th Century), Kaikulangara (17th > Century) and Acharya Balabhadra (18th Century). Parasara Hora was not > seen by Bhattolpala but Parasara Samhitha, Kaikulangara has seen > Parasara Hora but not Parasara Samhitha, Bhattolpala has seen Gargi > Hora but not Kaikulangara, Balabhadra and Kaikulangara has seen Soura > Hora (also known as Suryarunasamvadam or Sourajathakam) but not > Bhattolpala. It all just means that some texts that were not available > in some parts of the country were available at some other parts of the > country at the same time. This may be the only cause due to which > Bhattolpala failed to see a copy of Parasara Hora.] > Now the question comes, Is this the Parasara who was the originator > of Parasara Kula? No, because in Mahabharatha period (may be BC. 3100) > as well one Parasara lived. In Brihadaranyopanishad, while describing > the Acharya Paramparas the Rishi speaks about 3 Prarasaryas and 2 > Parasaryayanas. It reveals that like the Sankaracharyas of today, > everybody of Parasara Kula (Guru-Sishya Parampara) was known as > Parasara. The Rishi Kulas are some what similar to the Universities of > today, it just shows the continuity of Teacher-Student relationship > (Guru-Sishya parampara). While describing the 18 Acharyas (Acharya > Kulas) of astrology, Parasara says: > Viswasrishta narado vyaso vasishtotri parasara > Lomaso yevanaH suryaschevanaH kasyapo bhrigu > Pulasthyo manuracharyaH poulisa sounakongiraH > Gargo mareechirithyethe jcheya jyothiH prevarthaka > (Parasara Hora) > See that in this list one Parasara is also mentioned. Parasara is not > going to mention his own name in a book written by him. That means > here Parasara is remembering the originator of Parasara Kula who also > meditated on astrology and propagated this wisdom. Then we could think > that probably the Parasara of Mahabharatha period also knew about > astrology. > Another point to be noted is that Parasara (of BC.1400), also > mentions the name of Yevana (Yevanacharya). This Yevanacharya cannot > be Sphujidwaja or Meenaraja who lived after the period of Alexander > who invaded India. This Yevanacharya should be the originator of > Yevana Kula of astrology, who lived prior to BC.1400. Probably > Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja were the students of this branch of > astrology. > I derive 2 conclusions from the above details: > 1) Parasara who wrote BPHS lived around BC.1400 > 2) Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja are the followers of Yevanacharyas > system of astrology and that is why text written by them are known as > Yevana Horas. > ================================(End of article) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, The discussion is quite interesting but the evidence of the shlokas in BPHS appears to point to another period. Did you get the shloka indicating Parashara being alive at the time of Yudhishthira? It also appears in Sitaram Jha edition at Adhyaaya 42. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Sreenadh wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > I just searched for the mail I wrote about " The period of Parasara " > in vedic astrology group. It is given below. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > Sreenadh <sreelid> wrote: > > Dear Mohan ji, > > You asked: > > > the first thing I would like to know is how you > > > have arrived at the conclusions that Parashara Samhita > > > is of 1500 BCE. > > > The following is my answer to that question: > > ================================ (Start of article) > > Period of Parasara > > --------------------- > > When Parasara, the author of Parasara Sidhantha, Parasara Samhitha > and > > Parasara Hora lived? Is it near to Mahabharatha period, which as > per > > some scholars is near to BC. 3100? > > Or are these texts are written by some Parasara of the Parasara > Kula > > of later age? > > It is a known fact that this Parasara is the son of the Rishi > called > > Sakthi who was also a well known person who wrote texts related to > > Astrology. There is a sloka in Parasara Samhita (quoted in the > Vyakhya > > of Varaha Hora by Bhattolpala), which helps us in determining the > > period of Parasara, the author of BPHS. The sloka is quoted below: > > Srevishtadyath poushnantham charatha sisiraH > > VasanthaH poushnanthyath rohinyantham > > Soumyadyath sarpardham greeshmaH > > Pravid sarpardhath dhasthantham > > Chithradyath indrardham sarth > > Hemantho Jyeshardhath vaishnavantham > > (Parasara Samhitha) > > This sloka indicates that at the time of Parasara, Utharayana was > > from the beginning of Dhanishta to the middle of Aslesha. That > > happened near to BC.1400 as per astronomical calculations. > Therefore > > it is sure that Parasara Samhitha was written around the period BC. > > 1400. Now the question is, can we be sure that Parasara Hora and > > Parasara Sidhantha was written by the same person? Yes, because it > is > > said that Parasara wrote 3 books on astrology - Parasara Sidhanta, > > Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. How? What is the proof? In the > > Vyakhya of Varaha Hora, Bhattolpala says: > > Parasara Samhitha kevalamasmabhir drishtam nathu jathakam > > Srooyathe skandha treyamithi Parasarasyethi. > > (Varaha Hora - Bhattolpala Vyakhya) > > Meaning, I have seen only Parasara Samhitha, and not Parasara > Hora. > > But I have heard that Parasara had written books for all the 3 > > skandhas (i.e. Sidhantha, Samhitha and Hora). > > From all these it is clear that Parasara of BC.1400 has written 3 > > books, i.e. Parasara Sidhatha, Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. > > [The game of time and space are curious. I have 3 scholars in my > mind > > while saying this - Bhattolpala (10th Century), Kaikulangara (17th > > Century) and Acharya Balabhadra (18th Century). Parasara Hora was > not > > seen by Bhattolpala but Parasara Samhitha, Kaikulangara has seen > > Parasara Hora but not Parasara Samhitha, Bhattolpala has seen Gargi > > Hora but not Kaikulangara, Balabhadra and Kaikulangara has seen > Soura > > Hora (also known as Suryarunasamvadam or Sourajathakam) but not > > Bhattolpala. It all just means that some texts that were not > available > > in some parts of the country were available at some other parts of > the > > country at the same time. This may be the only cause due to which > > Bhattolpala failed to see a copy of Parasara Hora.] > > Now the question comes, Is this the Parasara who was the originator > > of Parasara Kula? No, because in Mahabharatha period (may be BC. > 3100) > > as well one Parasara lived. In Brihadaranyopanishad, while > describing > > the Acharya Paramparas the Rishi speaks about 3 Prarasaryas and 2 > > Parasaryayanas. It reveals that like the Sankaracharyas of today, > > everybody of Parasara Kula (Guru-Sishya Parampara) was known as > > Parasara. The Rishi Kulas are some what similar to the Universities > of > > today, it just shows the continuity of Teacher-Student relationship > > (Guru-Sishya parampara). While describing the 18 Acharyas (Acharya > > Kulas) of astrology, Parasara says: > > Viswasrishta narado vyaso vasishtotri parasara > > Lomaso yevanaH suryaschevanaH kasyapo bhrigu > > Pulasthyo manuracharyaH poulisa sounakongiraH > > Gargo mareechirithyethe jcheya jyothiH prevarthaka > > (Parasara Hora) > > See that in this list one Parasara is also mentioned. Parasara is > not > > going to mention his own name in a book written by him. That means > > here Parasara is remembering the originator of Parasara Kula who > also > > meditated on astrology and propagated this wisdom. Then we could > think > > that probably the Parasara of Mahabharatha period also knew about > > astrology. > > Another point to be noted is that Parasara (of BC.1400), also > > mentions the name of Yevana (Yevanacharya). This Yevanacharya > cannot > > be Sphujidwaja or Meenaraja who lived after the period of Alexander > > who invaded India. This Yevanacharya should be the originator of > > Yevana Kula of astrology, who lived prior to BC.1400. Probably > > Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja were the students of this branch of > > astrology. > > I derive 2 conclusions from the above details: > > 1) Parasara who wrote BPHS lived around BC.1400 > > 2) Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja are the followers of > Yevanacharyas > > system of astrology and that is why text written by them are known > as > > Yevana Horas. > > ================================(End of article) > > > ------ > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/2007 6:43 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji, Thanks for pointing out. I need to study a bit about the " Salivahana Year system " as well before speaking anything on the same. Love, Sreenadh , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > The discussion is quite interesting but the evidence of the shlokas in > BPHS appears to point to another period. Did you get the shloka > indicating Parashara being alive at the time of Yudhishthira? It also > appears in Sitaram Jha edition at Adhyaaya 42. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Sreenadh wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > I just searched for the mail I wrote about " The period of Parasara " > > in vedic astrology group. It is given below. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > > Sreenadh <sreelid> wrote: > > > Dear Mohan ji, > > > You asked: > > > > the first thing I would like to know is how you > > > > have arrived at the conclusions that Parashara Samhita > > > > is of 1500 BCE. > > > > > The following is my answer to that question: > > > ================================ (Start of article) > > > Period of Parasara > > > --------------------- > > > When Parasara, the author of Parasara Sidhantha, Parasara Samhitha > > and > > > Parasara Hora lived? Is it near to Mahabharatha period, which as > > per > > > some scholars is near to BC. 3100? > > > Or are these texts are written by some Parasara of the Parasara > > Kula > > > of later age? > > > It is a known fact that this Parasara is the son of the Rishi > > called > > > Sakthi who was also a well known person who wrote texts related to > > > Astrology. There is a sloka in Parasara Samhita (quoted in the > > Vyakhya > > > of Varaha Hora by Bhattolpala), which helps us in determining the > > > period of Parasara, the author of BPHS. The sloka is quoted below: > > > Srevishtadyath poushnantham charatha sisiraH > > > VasanthaH poushnanthyath rohinyantham > > > Soumyadyath sarpardham greeshmaH > > > Pravid sarpardhath dhasthantham > > > Chithradyath indrardham sarth > > > Hemantho Jyeshardhath vaishnavantham > > > (Parasara Samhitha) > > > This sloka indicates that at the time of Parasara, Utharayana was > > > from the beginning of Dhanishta to the middle of Aslesha. That > > > happened near to BC.1400 as per astronomical calculations. > > Therefore > > > it is sure that Parasara Samhitha was written around the period BC. > > > 1400. Now the question is, can we be sure that Parasara Hora and > > > Parasara Sidhantha was written by the same person? Yes, because it > > is > > > said that Parasara wrote 3 books on astrology - Parasara Sidhanta, > > > Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. How? What is the proof? In the > > > Vyakhya of Varaha Hora, Bhattolpala says: > > > Parasara Samhitha kevalamasmabhir drishtam nathu jathakam > > > Srooyathe skandha treyamithi Parasarasyethi. > > > (Varaha Hora - Bhattolpala Vyakhya) > > > Meaning, I have seen only Parasara Samhitha, and not Parasara > > Hora. > > > But I have heard that Parasara had written books for all the 3 > > > skandhas (i.e. Sidhantha, Samhitha and Hora). > > > From all these it is clear that Parasara of BC.1400 has written 3 > > > books, i.e. Parasara Sidhatha, Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. > > > [The game of time and space are curious. I have 3 scholars in my > > mind > > > while saying this - Bhattolpala (10th Century), Kaikulangara (17th > > > Century) and Acharya Balabhadra (18th Century). Parasara Hora was > > not > > > seen by Bhattolpala but Parasara Samhitha, Kaikulangara has seen > > > Parasara Hora but not Parasara Samhitha, Bhattolpala has seen Gargi > > > Hora but not Kaikulangara, Balabhadra and Kaikulangara has seen > > Soura > > > Hora (also known as Suryarunasamvadam or Sourajathakam) but not > > > Bhattolpala. It all just means that some texts that were not > > available > > > in some parts of the country were available at some other parts of > > the > > > country at the same time. This may be the only cause due to which > > > Bhattolpala failed to see a copy of Parasara Hora.] > > > Now the question comes, Is this the Parasara who was the originator > > > of Parasara Kula? No, because in Mahabharatha period (may be BC. > > 3100) > > > as well one Parasara lived. In Brihadaranyopanishad, while > > describing > > > the Acharya Paramparas the Rishi speaks about 3 Prarasaryas and 2 > > > Parasaryayanas. It reveals that like the Sankaracharyas of today, > > > everybody of Parasara Kula (Guru-Sishya Parampara) was known as > > > Parasara. The Rishi Kulas are some what similar to the Universities > > of > > > today, it just shows the continuity of Teacher-Student relationship > > > (Guru-Sishya parampara). While describing the 18 Acharyas (Acharya > > > Kulas) of astrology, Parasara says: > > > Viswasrishta narado vyaso vasishtotri parasara > > > Lomaso yevanaH suryaschevanaH kasyapo bhrigu > > > Pulasthyo manuracharyaH poulisa sounakongiraH > > > Gargo mareechirithyethe jcheya jyothiH prevarthaka > > > (Parasara Hora) > > > See that in this list one Parasara is also mentioned. Parasara is > > not > > > going to mention his own name in a book written by him. That means > > > here Parasara is remembering the originator of Parasara Kula who > > also > > > meditated on astrology and propagated this wisdom. Then we could > > think > > > that probably the Parasara of Mahabharatha period also knew about > > > astrology. > > > Another point to be noted is that Parasara (of BC.1400), also > > > mentions the name of Yevana (Yevanacharya). This Yevanacharya > > cannot > > > be Sphujidwaja or Meenaraja who lived after the period of Alexander > > > who invaded India. This Yevanacharya should be the originator of > > > Yevana Kula of astrology, who lived prior to BC.1400. Probably > > > Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja were the students of this branch of > > > astrology. > > > I derive 2 conclusions from the above details: > > > 1) Parasara who wrote BPHS lived around BC.1400 > > > 2) Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja are the followers of > > Yevanacharyas > > > system of astrology and that is why text written by them are known > > as > > > Yevana Horas. > > > ================================(End of article) > > > > > > ------ > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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