Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Om Datta Guru Dear Prafulla Bhai & Sushmita, Someone wrote that Robert Koch was hardly crucified, how come that person never wrote about the Racist Remark on me. Someone called me having learnt astrology from a Christian Missionary (we all know the bad name of them in india). What hurt me most is 1) Why attack someones religion 2) The fact is i follow hinduism 3) The moderator Mr.Sreenadh did nothing, infact defended him saying that what wrong did he say inspite of Bharat & Prafulla coming to my defense though before that I had existed from the list. I did not feel that bad at Sreenadh since I know he is a young kid on the block. 4) The question here is not Sreenadh, but the fault lies with us, we entertain such people who do not follow what Parasara said, we put them on pedestals, we maintain silence and adharma arises I guess, only Bhrigu Samhita answers how Karmas of our associates effect us and that too in which period, no other classic explains that. We allow them to hide behind the back of Parasara to suit their arguments & any kid can do that, what about following what Parasara said. v 1-4. Maharishi Parasara said. O Brahmin! I have described to you the Jyotish Shastra, as narrated by Lord Brahma to the Sage Narada and by Narada to Shaunaka and other Sages, from whom I received the knowledge of this Shastra. I have narrated the same Jyotish Shastra, which I learnt from them. Do not impart the knowledge of this Shastra to one, who is insignificative, slanders, or calumniates others, nor to one, who is not intelligent, is wicked and unknown to you. Teach this supreme Vedanga Jyotish Shastra only to one, who is gentle and amiable, devoted, truthful, brilliant and well known to you. Knowing this would Sage Parasara reveal the Real Astrology for people like us, no he would not is what I feel. What needs to be highlighted is * Gentle & Amiable * Truthful * Well known to you * Devoted 1) None of these qualities are found in argumentative, one man upship, so called wanna be Gurus or scholars. 2) I notice everybody wants to Teach astrology to everyone but nobody wants to Predict 3) How about allowing someone to preach astrology here on lists after he has demonstrated his predictive ability over a 20 chart blind test. I bet my life all these theories will disappear then of these so called astro teachers & parampara experts. Everybody has an opinion or barks here and some do that with anonymous names. I fail to understand why. In olden days young students would not open their mouth and talk anything without thinking, nowadays everybody here wants to talk and be heard and wants his name on the web lists. This is the problem of the net. best wishes Sunil John Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Hi Sunil John, DO you remember me? I am Satya; we used to have good debates sometime ago. I am reading your posts; really good messages you are writing; particularly what sages had said or not said. Bottom line is; if we do not make amsa charts we miserably fail to discover the astrological differences between charts with same Rasi placement of planets including lagna. You brought in good points. Best regards, Satya S Kolachina , " jjnet2000_in " <jjnet2000_in wrote: > > Om Datta Guru > > Dear Prafulla Bhai & Sushmita, > > Someone wrote that Robert Koch was hardly crucified, how come that > person never wrote about the Racist Remark on me. Someone called me > having learnt astrology from a Christian Missionary (we all know the > bad name of them in india). What hurt me most is > > 1) Why attack someones religion > > 2) The fact is i follow hinduism > > 3) The moderator Mr.Sreenadh did nothing, infact defended him saying > that what wrong did he say inspite of Bharat & Prafulla coming to my > defense though before that I had existed from the list. I did not feel > that bad at Sreenadh since I know he is a young kid on the block. > > 4) The question here is not Sreenadh, but the fault lies with us, we > entertain such people who do not follow what Parasara said, we put them > on pedestals, we maintain silence and adharma arises I guess, only > Bhrigu Samhita answers how Karmas of our associates effect us and that > too in which period, no other classic explains that. We allow them to > hide behind the back of Parasara to suit their arguments & any kid can > do that, what about following what Parasara said. > > > v 1-4. Maharishi Parasara said. O Brahmin! I have described to you the > Jyotish Shastra, as narrated by Lord Brahma to the Sage Narada and by > Narada to Shaunaka and other Sages, from whom I received the knowledge > of this Shastra. I have narrated the same Jyotish Shastra, which I > learnt from them. Do not impart the knowledge of this Shastra to one, > who is insignificative, slanders, or calumniates others, nor to one, who > is not intelligent, is wicked and unknown to you. Teach this supreme > Vedanga Jyotish Shastra only to one, who is gentle and amiable, devoted, > truthful, brilliant and well known to you. > Knowing this would Sage Parasara reveal the Real Astrology for people > like us, no he would not is what I feel. > > What needs to be highlighted is > > * Gentle & Amiable > * Truthful > * Well known to you > * Devoted > > > 1) None of these qualities are found in argumentative, one man upship, > so called wanna be Gurus or scholars. > 2) I notice everybody wants to Teach astrology to everyone but nobody > wants to Predict > 3) How about allowing someone to preach astrology here on lists after > he has demonstrated his predictive ability over a 20 chart blind test. I > bet my life all these theories will disappear then of these so called > astro teachers & parampara experts. > > Everybody has an opinion or barks here and some do that with anonymous > names. I fail to understand why. > > In olden days young students would not open their mouth and talk > anything without thinking, nowadays everybody here wants to talk and be > heard and wants his name on the web lists. This is the problem of the > net. > > > > > best wishes > Sunil John > Mumbai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Dear Sunil John, > > Dear Prafulla Bhai & Sushmita, > > Someone wrote that Robert Koch was hardly crucified, how come that > person never wrote about the Racist Remark on me. Someone called me > having learnt astrology from a Christian Missionary (we all know the > bad name of them in india). What hurt me most is > > 1) Why attack someones religion > > 2) The fact is i follow hinduism > > 3) The moderator Mr.Sreenadh did nothing, infact defended him saying > that what wrong did he say inspite of Bharat & Prafulla coming to my > defense though before that I had existed from the list. I did not feel > that bad at Sreenadh since I know he is a young kid on the block. [Prafulla] - well, it is member's choice to ignore the snobbish approach, and Robert Koch was certainly put to discomfort in very harsh / questionable manner. This is already there in that forum and let members make their opinion. yes - there were rasicst remarks against you sometime back, and may be (like for few in history in the name of blasphemy - all is applaudable) it is way of life for few. And beyond doubt, these were sad incidents - full of malice. Many thanks for sharing parashar's pre qualificaton norms for an astrologer. regards / Prafulla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Om Datta Guru Dear Satya Sai, I came on the list after many months I guess so it took me time to recognise u, I apologise, but now I remember u very well. Thanks for ur kind mail. I can see that you maintain the spirit of open mind. Sorry for short mail brother but it seems in 2 days there are 50 mails, replying to them is going to be cumbersome best wishes to u Sunil John Mumbai , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Hi Sunil John, > > DO you remember me? I am Satya; we used to have good debates sometime > ago. > > I am reading your posts; really good messages you are writing; > particularly what sages had said or not said. > > Bottom line is; if we do not make amsa charts we miserably fail to > discover the astrological differences between charts with same Rasi > placement of planets including lagna. You brought in good points. > > Best regards, > Satya S Kolachina > > , " jjnet2000_in " > jjnet2000_in@ wrote: > > > > Om Datta Guru > > > > Dear Prafulla Bhai & Sushmita, > > > > Someone wrote that Robert Koch was hardly crucified, how come that > > person never wrote about the Racist Remark on me. Someone called me > > having learnt astrology from a Christian Missionary (we all know > the > > bad name of them in india). What hurt me most is > > > > 1) Why attack someones religion > > > > 2) The fact is i follow hinduism > > > > 3) The moderator Mr.Sreenadh did nothing, infact defended him saying > > that what wrong did he say inspite of Bharat & Prafulla coming to my > > defense though before that I had existed from the list. I did not > feel > > that bad at Sreenadh since I know he is a young kid on the block. > > > > 4) The question here is not Sreenadh, but the fault lies with us, we > > entertain such people who do not follow what Parasara said, we put > them > > on pedestals, we maintain silence and adharma arises I guess, only > > Bhrigu Samhita answers how Karmas of our associates effect us and > that > > too in which period, no other classic explains that. We allow them > to > > hide behind the back of Parasara to suit their arguments & any kid > can > > do that, what about following what Parasara said. > > > > > > v 1-4. Maharishi Parasara said. O Brahmin! I have described to you > the > > Jyotish Shastra, as narrated by Lord Brahma to the Sage Narada and > by > > Narada to Shaunaka and other Sages, from whom I received the > knowledge > > of this Shastra. I have narrated the same Jyotish Shastra, which I > > learnt from them. Do not impart the knowledge of this Shastra to > one, > > who is insignificative, slanders, or calumniates others, nor to > one, who > > is not intelligent, is wicked and unknown to you. Teach this supreme > > Vedanga Jyotish Shastra only to one, who is gentle and amiable, > devoted, > > truthful, brilliant and well known to you. > > Knowing this would Sage Parasara reveal the Real Astrology for > people > > like us, no he would not is what I feel. > > > > What needs to be highlighted is > > > > * Gentle & Amiable > > * Truthful > > * Well known to you > > * Devoted > > > > > > 1) None of these qualities are found in argumentative, one man > upship, > > so called wanna be Gurus or scholars. > > 2) I notice everybody wants to Teach astrology to everyone but > nobody > > wants to Predict > > 3) How about allowing someone to preach astrology here on lists > after > > he has demonstrated his predictive ability over a 20 chart blind > test. I > > bet my life all these theories will disappear then of these so > called > > astro teachers & parampara experts. > > > > Everybody has an opinion or barks here and some do that with > anonymous > > names. I fail to understand why. > > > > In olden days young students would not open their mouth and talk > > anything without thinking, nowadays everybody here wants to talk > and be > > heard and wants his name on the web lists. This is the problem of > the > > net. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > Sunil John > > Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 OM Datta Guru Dear Prafulla Bhai Thanks for ur mail. Noted ur good points I even forgot the name of the person who made that racist comment to be honest best wishes SJ , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sunil John, > > > > > > Dear Prafulla Bhai & Sushmita, > > > > Someone wrote that Robert Koch was hardly crucified, how come that > > person never wrote about the Racist Remark on me. Someone called me > > having learnt astrology from a Christian Missionary (we all know the > > bad name of them in india). What hurt me most is > > > > > > > 1) Why attack someones religion > > > > 2) The fact is i follow hinduism > > > > 3) The moderator Mr.Sreenadh did nothing, infact defended him saying > > that what wrong did he say inspite of Bharat & Prafulla coming to my > > defense though before that I had existed from the list. I did not feel > > that bad at Sreenadh since I know he is a young kid on the block. > > > [Prafulla] - well, it is member's choice to ignore the snobbish approach, and Robert Koch was certainly put to discomfort in very harsh / questionable manner. This is already there in that forum and let members make their opinion. > > yes - there were rasicst remarks against you sometime back, and may be (like for few in history in the name of blasphemy - all is applaudable) it is way of life for few. > > And beyond doubt, these were sad incidents - full of malice. > > > Many thanks for sharing parashar's pre qualificaton norms for an astrologer. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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