use of Divisions ---Children from rasi and saptamsa /Thank you

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Dear Shri Tarun

 

Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

 

As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi chart.

 

This shloka says details regarding children and Grand Children are

to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

 

So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the saptamsha of

grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking us to see

the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

 

Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

 

Lord is too Kind.

 

Regds

Pradeep

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri PVR.

> Message #622

>

> He is also saying use of Division charts to see the exchanges of

> planets in them and sure aspects too.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > > Now why was she denied of children?

> >

> > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and grandchildren is in

D-

> 7).

> >

> > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in 6th in

D-7

> chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-7 chart.

> >

> > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > PVR Narasimha Rao

> >

> >

> >

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Hello Vijaydas ji,

 

As I have stated before, your views appeal to me from

logical standpoint. I have read translations of BPHS

and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes see

children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

Whether there is any substance in it or not, the jury

is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as a

gospel truth. You are going to present your analysis

of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

can see the light.

 

People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

model for their demonstration as well. They use it for

most part to explain away known things. Narasimha had

debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse from

navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we do

with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and D-1

have the same inportance, how do we judge if one chart

shows afflictions and the other shows great promise,

which one we should use, if the dictum of Parashara is

See spouse in navansha ??

 

There was example of father's death discussed. The

explanation was becuse the native was running a dasha

of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away D-1 ?

 

anyway

 

You are on the right path to unlocking the essense of

jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical path

and I wish you all the best.

 

Satish

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

 

> Dear Shri Tarun

>

> Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

>

> As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from

> Rashi chart.

>

> This shloka says details regarding children and

> Grand Children are

> to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

>

> So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

> saptamsha of

> grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas

> asking us to see

> the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

>

> Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

>

> Lord is too Kind.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

> , " Tarun "

> <tarun.virgo

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail

> of Shri PVR.

> > Message #622

> >

> > He is also saying use of Division charts to see

> the exchanges of

> > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> > , " Narasimha

> P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > >

> > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

> chintanam

> > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> grandchildren is in

> D-

> > 7).

> > >

> > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

> Rahu, is in 6th in

> D-7

> > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in

> 5th in D-7 chart.

> > >

> > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sateeshji,

 

No hard feelings, just simple plain discussion

like good class mates and students.

 

It is normaly understood in the texts, that

when the navamsha is Vargottamsa, that means

the lagna is strong.

 

If the above is the case, then it is understood

that the Navamsha accentuates the features

present in the Lagna.

 

It is also been given to understand by the

Navamsha scholars like Chandulal patel,

that Sun in Aries, but in navamsha of

Saturn, would loose its benefic giving properties

to a great extent, and vice-versa.

 

This also proves that the strength of the planets

is to be judged from the navamsha charts.

 

We also have refernces that Venus debilitated

in both the charts viz.Rashi and navamsha, would

make the venus loose its debilitation.

 

certainly there must be some weight in the Navamsha,

forth scholars to asses the planets thus,

from the Navamsha.

 

It is also understood that suppose

one is born with gemini Lagna and also

gets Navamsha of Libra, then it confirms

the properties of Airy signs in the nativity.

 

Thus I have understood with my observation

that the navamsha Chart does play

an important part in the study of reading

Charts.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Hello Vijaydas ji,

>

> As I have stated before, your views appeal to me from

> logical standpoint. I have read translations of BPHS

> and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

> children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes see

> children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

> business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

> Whether there is any substance in it or not, the jury

> is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

> Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as a

> gospel truth. You are going to present your analysis

> of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

> people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

> can see the light.

>

> People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

> model for their demonstration as well. They use it for

> most part to explain away known things. Narasimha had

> debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

> back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse from

> navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we do

> with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and D-1

> have the same inportance, how do we judge if one chart

> shows afflictions and the other shows great promise,

> which one we should use, if the dictum of Parashara is

> See spouse in navansha ??

>

> There was example of father's death discussed. The

> explanation was becuse the native was running a dasha

> of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

> please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

> father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away D-1 ?

>

> anyway

>

> You are on the right path to unlocking the essense of

> jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical path

> and I wish you all the best.

>

> Satish

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Tarun

> >

> > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> >

> > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from

> > Rashi chart.

> >

> > This shloka says details regarding children and

> > Grand Children are

> > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> >

> > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

> > saptamsha of

> > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas

> > asking us to see

> > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> >

> > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> >

> > Lord is too Kind.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , " Tarun "

> > <tarun.virgo@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail

> > of Shri PVR.

> > > Message #622

> > >

> > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see

> > the exchanges of

> > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha

> > P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > >

> > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

> > chintanam

> > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> > grandchildren is in

> > D-

> > > 7).

> > > >

> > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

> > Rahu, is in 6th in

> > D-7

> > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in

> > 5th in D-7 chart.

> > > >

> > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Satish,

 

You said:

<You are going to present your analysis

of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

can see the light.>

 

Your presentation makes me feel that you are excited in writing this

piece. I would request you to please refrain from using such words

as 'bottom of muddy waters'; by doing so you are pushing several

great astrologers of the past and present to the bottom of muddy

waters. Fortunately these people are not Internet-astrologers.

 

I would appreciate if care is taken in using such words; you have no

right to comment on the people who do not agree your viewpoint.

 

Best regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

 

, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Hello Vijaydas ji,

>

> As I have stated before, your views appeal to me from

> logical standpoint. I have read translations of BPHS

> and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

> children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes see

> children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

> business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

> Whether there is any substance in it or not, the jury

> is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

> Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as a

> gospel truth. You are going to present your analysis

> of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

> people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

> can see the light.

>

> People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

> model for their demonstration as well. They use it for

> most part to explain away known things. Narasimha had

> debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

> back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse from

> navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we do

> with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and D-1

> have the same inportance, how do we judge if one chart

> shows afflictions and the other shows great promise,

> which one we should use, if the dictum of Parashara is

> See spouse in navansha ??

>

> There was example of father's death discussed. The

> explanation was becuse the native was running a dasha

> of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

> please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

> father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away D-1 ?

>

> anyway

>

> You are on the right path to unlocking the essense of

> jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical path

> and I wish you all the best.

>

> Satish

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Tarun

> >

> > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> >

> > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from

> > Rashi chart.

> >

> > This shloka says details regarding children and

> > Grand Children are

> > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> >

> > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

> > saptamsha of

> > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas

> > asking us to see

> > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> >

> > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> >

> > Lord is too Kind.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , " Tarun "

> > <tarun.virgo@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail

> > of Shri PVR.

> > > Message #622

> > >

> > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see

> > the exchanges of

> > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha

> > P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > >

> > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

> > chintanam

> > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> > grandchildren is in

> > D-

> > > 7).

> > > >

> > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

> > Rahu, is in 6th in

> > D-7

> > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in

> > 5th in D-7 chart.

> > > >

> > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Bhaskarji,

 

Who is arguing about strength from navamsha. But thats

what it is a amsha, NOT A HOUSE. Where it is said that

look for 7th house in navansha for spouse ??But thats

what is being done these days. Again..the point is NOT

whether one should use divisions/amshas. Ofcouse one

should to ascertain the strength of graha.

 

If shani is exalted in navasha it gains strength, does

it matter whether this shani is in 5th house or 8th

house in navansha ?? I am using this house term for

navansha because that what people are used to. The

point is the shani will be exalted in navasha will be

strong regardless of what is navamsha lagna is. Now if

the native has kumbha lagna, then one can say that

shani has attained bhagyamsa, so person will be

lucky.If the native has vrishchika lagan then shani

has attained vyayamsa.

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Sateeshji,

>

> No hard feelings, just simple plain discussion

> like good class mates and students.

>

> It is normaly understood in the texts, that

> when the navamsha is Vargottamsa, that means

> the lagna is strong.

>

> If the above is the case, then it is understood

> that the Navamsha accentuates the features

> present in the Lagna.

>

> It is also been given to understand by the

> Navamsha scholars like Chandulal patel,

> that Sun in Aries, but in navamsha of

> Saturn, would loose its benefic giving properties

> to a great extent, and vice-versa.

>

> This also proves that the strength of the planets

> is to be judged from the navamsha charts.

>

> We also have refernces that Venus debilitated

> in both the charts viz.Rashi and navamsha, would

> make the venus loose its debilitation.

>

> certainly there must be some weight in the Navamsha,

>

> forth scholars to asses the planets thus,

> from the Navamsha.

>

> It is also understood that suppose

> one is born with gemini Lagna and also

> gets Navamsha of Libra, then it confirms

> the properties of Airy signs in the nativity.

>

> Thus I have understood with my observation

> that the navamsha Chart does play

> an important part in the study of reading

> Charts.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Hello Vijaydas ji,

> >

> > As I have stated before, your views appeal to me

> from

> > logical standpoint. I have read translations of

> BPHS

> > and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

> > children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes

> see

> > children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

> > business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

> > Whether there is any substance in it or not, the

> jury

> > is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

> > Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as

> a

> > gospel truth. You are going to present your

> analysis

> > of a few charts, that will clear the air and

> hopefully

> > people who are not at the bottom of the muddy

> water

> > can see the light.

> >

> > People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

> > model for their demonstration as well. They use it

> for

> > most part to explain away known things. Narasimha

> had

> > debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

> > back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse

> from

> > navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we

> do

> > with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and

> D-1

> > have the same inportance, how do we judge if one

> chart

> > shows afflictions and the other shows great

> promise,

> > which one we should use, if the dictum of

> Parashara is

> > See spouse in navansha ??

> >

> > There was example of father's death discussed. The

> > explanation was becuse the native was running a

> dasha

> > of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

> > please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

> > father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away

> D-1 ?

> >

> > anyway

> >

> > You are on the right path to unlocking the essense

> of

> > jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical

> path

> > and I wish you all the best.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Shri Tarun

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> > >

> > > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen

> from

> > > Rashi chart.

> > >

> > > This shloka says details regarding children and

> > > Grand Children are

> > > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> > >

> > > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see

> the

> > > saptamsha of

> > > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are

> shlokas

> > > asking us to see

> > > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> > >

> > > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> > >

> > > Lord is too Kind.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > > , " Tarun "

> > > <tarun.virgo@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > I was surfing the archives and I found this

> mail

> > > of Shri PVR.

> > > > Message #622

> > > >

> > > > He is also saying use of Division charts to

> see

> > > the exchanges of

> > > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> " Narasimha

> > > P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > > >

> > > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

> > > chintanam

> > > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> > > grandchildren is in

> > > D-

> > > > 7).

> > > > >

> > > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

> > > Rahu, is in 6th in

> > > D-7

> > > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is

> in

> > > 5th in D-7 chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Satish ji

 

We are collectively trying to understand the basic principles of

astrology,so that nectar from this divine science can be

extracted ,if not more,just a drop.

 

The students can decide for themselves.Just give a search in google

and one can see shri Sanjay Raths view - AmshaKA is to be seen from

ashi chakra.

 

Shri Tarun had quoted Saptamsha shloka with reference as

SaptamshaKE.Thus it is upto 1000's of students who are watching these

discussions to decide what is correct.

 

If still these students coe for an argument,are they against us or

against atsrology?

 

Your views,Panditjis strong support,Sreenadh ji,Shri Finn Wandahls

encouragemet,Authoritative support from shri Chandrahari,K.N.Raoji

who opposed vehemently the misuse of varga chakras,K.N.Raoji who had

interpreted karakmsha lagna,and Chandrashekhar jis support(though he

is debating with me ) he is against all these misuse of vargas, along

with many wishers,have been making this exercise fruitful.

 

We do not enforce anything on anybody.If Lords grace is there and if

our path is correct,then HE will definitely support and guard us at

every step.I have strong conviction.

 

Let all of us gain True Knowledge.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Hello Vijaydas ji,

>

> As I have stated before, your views appeal to me from

> logical standpoint. I have read translations of BPHS

> and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

> children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes see

> children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

> business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

> Whether there is any substance in it or not, the jury

> is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

> Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as a

> gospel truth. You are going to present your analysis

> of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

> people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

> can see the light.

>

> People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

> model for their demonstration as well. They use it for

> most part to explain away known things. Narasimha had

> debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

> back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse from

> navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we do

> with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and D-1

> have the same inportance, how do we judge if one chart

> shows afflictions and the other shows great promise,

> which one we should use, if the dictum of Parashara is

> See spouse in navansha ??

>

> There was example of father's death discussed. The

> explanation was becuse the native was running a dasha

> of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

> please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

> father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away D-1 ?

>

> anyway

>

> You are on the right path to unlocking the essense of

> jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical path

> and I wish you all the best.

>

> Satish

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Tarun

> >

> > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> >

> > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from

> > Rashi chart.

> >

> > This shloka says details regarding children and

> > Grand Children are

> > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> >

> > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

> > saptamsha of

> > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas

> > asking us to see

> > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> >

> > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> >

> > Lord is too Kind.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , " Tarun "

> > <tarun.virgo@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail

> > of Shri PVR.

> > > Message #622

> > >

> > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see

> > the exchanges of

> > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha

> > P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > >

> > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

> > chintanam

> > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> > grandchildren is in

> > D-

> > > 7).

> > > >

> > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

> > Rahu, is in 6th in

> > D-7

> > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in

> > 5th in D-7 chart.

> > > >

> > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Satya ji

 

I agree with your comments.

 

I reminded me few beautiful lines:

 

Har ek ka khuda hota hai

jiska drwaza khula hota hai

 

vakt rukta nahin kisi bhi awaaz pe

sirf ek ahasas ruka hota hai

 

Hamne to Insaan bhi nahin dekhe

log kahte hai ki khuda hota hai

 

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>

> skolachi

> Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:47:33 -0000

>

> Re: use of Divisions ---Children from rasi and

> saptamsa /Thank you

>

> Satish,

>

> You said:

> <You are going to present your analysis

> of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

> people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

> can see the light.>

>

> Your presentation makes me feel that you are excited in writing this

> piece. I would request you to please refrain from using such words

> as 'bottom of muddy waters'; by doing so you are pushing several

> great astrologers of the past and present to the bottom of muddy

> waters. Fortunately these people are not Internet-astrologers.

>

> I would appreciate if care is taken in using such words; you have no

> right to comment on the people who do not agree your viewpoint.

>

> Best regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

>

> , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>>

>> Hello Vijaydas ji,

>>

>> As I have stated before, your views appeal to me from

>> logical standpoint. I have read translations of BPHS

>> and the rishi says , see spouse from navansha,

>> children from saptamsha. He never explicitly staes see

>> children from 5th house in saptamsha. This D-chart

>> business is an extrapolation of modern jyotishis.

>> Whether there is any substance in it or not, the jury

>> is out. For me it is not a forgone conclusion.

>> Unfortunately for many they have taken D-charts as a

>> gospel truth. You are going to present your analysis

>> of a few charts, that will clear the air and hopefully

>> people who are not at the bottom of the muddy water

>> can see the light.

>>

>> People who use D-charts, have not come up with any

>> model for their demonstration as well. They use it for

>> most part to explain away known things. Narasimha had

>> debate with panditji on VA list a couple of years

>> back. The question asked was, if one sees spouse from

>> navamsha ( D-9 chart in their parlance) what do we do

>> with rashi chart, do we throw it away. if D-9 and D-1

>> have the same inportance, how do we judge if one chart

>> shows afflictions and the other shows great promise,

>> which one we should use, if the dictum of Parashara is

>> See spouse in navansha ??

>>

>> There was example of father's death discussed. The

>> explanation was becuse the native was running a dasha

>> of lord of 9th from sun in D-12. Give me a break,

>> please. So do we always got to D-12 to see

>> father's/mother's death ? Do we just throw away D-1 ?

>>

>> anyway

>>

>> You are on the right path to unlocking the essense of

>> jyotish and I am sure that you are on a logical path

>> and I wish you all the best.

>>

>> Satish

>> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Dear Shri Tarun

>>>

>>> Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

>>>

>>> As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from

>>> Rashi chart.

>>>

>>> This shloka says details regarding children and

>>> Grand Children are

>>> to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

>>>

>>> So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

>>> saptamsha of

>>> grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas

>>> asking us to see

>>> the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

>>>

>>> Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

>>>

>>> Lord is too Kind.

>>>

>>> Regds

>>> Pradeep

>>> , " Tarun "

>>> <tarun.virgo@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Sir,

>>>>

>>>> I was surfing the archives and I found this mail

>>> of Shri PVR.

>>>> Message #622

>>>>

>>>> He is also saying use of Division charts to see

>>> the exchanges of

>>>> planets in them and sure aspects too.

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>>

>>>> Tarun

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> , " Narasimha

>>> P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Namaste,

>>>>>

>>>>>> Now why was she denied of children?

>>>>>

>>>>> Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai

>>> chintanam

>>>> saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

>>> grandchildren is in

>>> D-

>>>> 7).

>>>>>

>>>>> Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart,

>>> Rahu, is in 6th in

>>> D-7

>>>> chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in

>>> 5th in D-7 chart.

>>>>>

>>>>> There are other factors in D-7 as well.

>>>>>

>>>>> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>>>>> PVR Narasimha Rao

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>>> removed]

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep ji,

 

How to use navamsa chart then.

 

Like i have certain planet in certain house, now how to connect it to

navamsa and how to make a prediction accordingly.

 

how to read for conjuctions / oppositions happening in navamsa

certain house,

how to read for 5 / 7/9 aspects of jupiter and special aspects of

other planets.

 

I will be very grateful as my whole confusion will come a side for

the current debate going on.

 

I please you for a write up. I am not asking for research papers but

for few lines to understand your view.

 

You are writing so many mails to others , just for my help please

suggest me.

 

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Tarun

>

> Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

>

> As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi chart.

>

> This shloka says details regarding children and Grand Children are

> to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

>

> So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the saptamsha of

> grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking us to

see

> the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

>

> Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

>

> Lord is too Kind.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri PVR.

> > Message #622

> >

> > He is also saying use of Division charts to see the exchanges of

> > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > >

> > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and grandchildren is

in

> D-

> > 7).

> > >

> > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in 6th in

> D-7

> > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-7

chart.

> > >

> > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

there is some discussion going on Jyotishgroup forum

 

where shri pradeep quoted this methodology of Shri Rath.

 

I am feeling confused wht he is trying say that..there is no such

navamsa chankra; no aspects / conj in d9; the theories advised by

Shri Sanjay, Shri KN rao, Shri BV Raman all are wrong on D charts

 

but in as wht i think that , I have learnt astrology through SJC

literature, which works beautifully; and i am not convinced by Shri

Pradeep's view.

 

 

I please senior members to share abt wht is correct.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

Dear Shri Tarun

 

Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

 

As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi chart.

 

This shloka says details regarding children and Grand Children are

to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

 

So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the saptamsha of

grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking us to see

the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

 

Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

 

Lord is too Kind.

 

Regds

Pradeep

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri PVR.

> Message #622

>

> He is also saying use of Division charts to see the exchanges of

> planets in them and sure aspects too.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > > Now why was she denied of children?

> >

> > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and grandchildren is in

D-

> 7).

> >

> > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in 6th in

D-7

> chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-7 chart.

> >

> > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > PVR Narasimha Rao

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear shri Tarun

 

I will be sharing some charts and you can see how i am using.Aspects

are possible only -or to be more clear -You can start an aspect,ie

Mars aspecting 4th house or a planet placed there is possible only

from the position of Mars in rashi chakra.

 

Conjunctions or singular placements can be seen as an amshas/amsha

of planets falling in a navamsha sector and thereby linking to its

root rashi.Analysis are always done from Rashichakra which has 12

Rashis,of 30 degrees each.

 

In the above example,if Mars is placed in Aries and Karakamsha is

Cancer,then Mars is aspecting Karakamasha Lagna.Thus you see basic

rules are not violated,amsha-rashi sambandhas are taken care and

transits and dashas can be combined.The whole is analyzed as if in a

complete system.Human body is a system ,so is Kalachakra.All has to

be seen in totality.Individual representations are for our

understanding.Assume how chaotic it will be if we mark all vargas

within the same rashi.

 

You can mark endocrine glands on various human body diagrams -with

one gland per diagram.But in reality all glands and the finer

physiological aspects ,are happening within one system called human

body.

 

Neither one gland can function in isolation,nor all glands

together.The full system has to work in tandem.

 

Hope this is clear.Pls see if my examples will be of any help.

 

Regds

Pradeep

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep ji,

>

> How to use navamsa chart then.

>

> Like i have certain planet in certain house, now how to connect it

to

> navamsa and how to make a prediction accordingly.

>

> how to read for conjuctions / oppositions happening in navamsa

> certain house,

> how to read for 5 / 7/9 aspects of jupiter and special aspects of

> other planets.

>

> I will be very grateful as my whole confusion will come a side for

> the current debate going on.

>

> I please you for a write up. I am not asking for research papers

but

> for few lines to understand your view.

>

> You are writing so many mails to others , just for my help please

> suggest me.

>

>

> Regards,

> Tarun

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Tarun

> >

> > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> >

> > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi chart.

> >

> > This shloka says details regarding children and Grand Children

are

> > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> >

> > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the saptamsha

of

> > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking us to

> see

> > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> >

> > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> >

> > Lord is too Kind.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri PVR.

> > > Message #622

> > >

> > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see the exchanges

of

> > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

> <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > >

> > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and grandchildren

is

> in

> > D-

> > > 7).

> > > >

> > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in 6th

in

> > D-7

> > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-7

> chart.

> > > >

> > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep ji,

 

Truly saying ..kuch samajh nahi aaya...and everything went above my

head.

 

Sir please include my chart too in your analysis so that it becomes

more easier for me.

 

Sir it will be better if you explain in astrological terms instead of

Medical, so that it becomes more clear in more lines which have

details in it.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear shri Tarun

>

> I will be sharing some charts and you can see how i am

using.Aspects

> are possible only -or to be more clear -You can start an aspect,ie

> Mars aspecting 4th house or a planet placed there is possible only

> from the position of Mars in rashi chakra.

>

> Conjunctions or singular placements can be seen as an amshas/amsha

> of planets falling in a navamsha sector and thereby linking to its

> root rashi.Analysis are always done from Rashichakra which has 12

> Rashis,of 30 degrees each.

>

> In the above example,if Mars is placed in Aries and Karakamsha is

> Cancer,then Mars is aspecting Karakamasha Lagna.Thus you see basic

> rules are not violated,amsha-rashi sambandhas are taken care and

> transits and dashas can be combined.The whole is analyzed as if in

a

> complete system.Human body is a system ,so is Kalachakra.All has to

> be seen in totality.Individual representations are for our

> understanding.Assume how chaotic it will be if we mark all vargas

> within the same rashi.

>

> You can mark endocrine glands on various human body diagrams -with

> one gland per diagram.But in reality all glands and the finer

> physiological aspects ,are happening within one system called human

> body.

>

> Neither one gland can function in isolation,nor all glands

> together.The full system has to work in tandem.

>

> Hope this is clear.Pls see if my examples will be of any help.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep ji,

> >

> > How to use navamsa chart then.

> >

> > Like i have certain planet in certain house, now how to connect

it

> to

> > navamsa and how to make a prediction accordingly.

> >

> > how to read for conjuctions / oppositions happening in navamsa

> > certain house,

> > how to read for 5 / 7/9 aspects of jupiter and special aspects of

> > other planets.

> >

> > I will be very grateful as my whole confusion will come a side

for

> > the current debate going on.

> >

> > I please you for a write up. I am not asking for research papers

> but

> > for few lines to understand your view.

> >

> > You are writing so many mails to others , just for my help please

> > suggest me.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tarun

> >

> > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Tarun

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> > >

> > > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi

chart.

> > >

> > > This shloka says details regarding children and Grand Children

> are

> > > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> > >

> > > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the saptamsha

> of

> > > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking us

to

> > see

> > > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> > >

> > > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> > >

> > > Lord is too Kind.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri PVR.

> > > > Message #622

> > > >

> > > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see the

exchanges

> of

> > > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

> > <pvr@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > > >

> > > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> > > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and grandchildren

> is

> > in

> > > D-

> > > > 7).

> > > > >

> > > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in

6th

> in

> > > D-7

> > > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-7

> > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Tarun bhai

 

Aapka chart info tho deejiye.Mein koshish karoonga.

 

As the poem says

 

Asaflta ek chunauti hai, ise sweekar karo,

kya kami reh gayi, dekho aur sudhar karo.

 

Jab tak na safal ho, neend chain ko tyago tum,

Sangharsh ka maidan chhodkar mat bhago tum.

Kuch kiye bina hi jai jaikar nahin hoti,

koshish karne walon ki haar nahin hoti.

 

(For non hindi speakers ,i love this poem -let me translate it -me

too a non native hindi speaker)-

Non sucess or failure is a challenege -Take it.

Rectify the errors and reform

Renounce your sleep and peace until you succeed

Without any act,there is no success

For the one who tries,there is no failure

 

I thought medical analogy would help.No worries.Pls share your chart.

 

Regds

Pradeep

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo

wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep ji,

>

> Truly saying ..kuch samajh nahi aaya...and everything went above

my

> head.

>

> Sir please include my chart too in your analysis so that it

becomes

> more easier for me.

>

> Sir it will be better if you explain in astrological terms instead

of

> Medical, so that it becomes more clear in more lines which have

> details in it.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear shri Tarun

> >

> > I will be sharing some charts and you can see how i am

> using.Aspects

> > are possible only -or to be more clear -You can start an

aspect,ie

> > Mars aspecting 4th house or a planet placed there is possible

only

> > from the position of Mars in rashi chakra.

> >

> > Conjunctions or singular placements can be seen as an

amshas/amsha

> > of planets falling in a navamsha sector and thereby linking to

its

> > root rashi.Analysis are always done from Rashichakra which has

12

> > Rashis,of 30 degrees each.

> >

> > In the above example,if Mars is placed in Aries and Karakamsha

is

> > Cancer,then Mars is aspecting Karakamasha Lagna.Thus you see

basic

> > rules are not violated,amsha-rashi sambandhas are taken care and

> > transits and dashas can be combined.The whole is analyzed as if

in

> a

> > complete system.Human body is a system ,so is Kalachakra.All has

to

> > be seen in totality.Individual representations are for our

> > understanding.Assume how chaotic it will be if we mark all

vargas

> > within the same rashi.

> >

> > You can mark endocrine glands on various human body diagrams -

with

> > one gland per diagram.But in reality all glands and the finer

> > physiological aspects ,are happening within one system called

human

> > body.

> >

> > Neither one gland can function in isolation,nor all glands

> > together.The full system has to work in tandem.

> >

> > Hope this is clear.Pls see if my examples will be of any help.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep ji,

> > >

> > > How to use navamsa chart then.

> > >

> > > Like i have certain planet in certain house, now how to

connect

> it

> > to

> > > navamsa and how to make a prediction accordingly.

> > >

> > > how to read for conjuctions / oppositions happening in

navamsa

> > > certain house,

> > > how to read for 5 / 7/9 aspects of jupiter and special aspects

of

> > > other planets.

> > >

> > > I will be very grateful as my whole confusion will come a side

> for

> > > the current debate going on.

> > >

> > > I please you for a write up. I am not asking for research

papers

> > but

> > > for few lines to understand your view.

> > >

> > > You are writing so many mails to others , just for my help

please

> > > suggest me.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Tarun

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> > > >

> > > > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi

> chart.

> > > >

> > > > This shloka says details regarding children and Grand

Children

> > are

> > > > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> > > >

> > > > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

saptamsha

> > of

> > > > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking

us

> to

> > > see

> > > > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> > > >

> > > > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> > > >

> > > > Lord is too Kind.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri

PVR.

> > > > > Message #622

> > > > >

> > > > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see the

> exchanges

> > of

> > > > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao "

> > > <pvr@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> > > > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

grandchildren

> > is

> > > in

> > > > D-

> > > > > 7).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is in

> 6th

> > in

> > > > D-7

> > > > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in D-

7

> > > chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep ji,

 

Thats really great poem.

 

Here are my details.

 

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00 am

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

Jodhpur, India

 

Sir i am learning astrology by forums from last 2.5 yrs.

 

and so i pleased you to understand your logics too so that it may

help me someday in future.

sir chote mote aadmi hei...medical ki bhasha thodi difficult padti

hei :-D

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun bhai

>

> Aapka chart info tho deejiye.Mein koshish karoonga.

>

> As the poem says

>

> Asaflta ek chunauti hai, ise sweekar karo,

> kya kami reh gayi, dekho aur sudhar karo.

>

> Jab tak na safal ho, neend chain ko tyago tum,

> Sangharsh ka maidan chhodkar mat bhago tum.

> Kuch kiye bina hi jai jaikar nahin hoti,

> koshish karne walon ki haar nahin hoti.

>

> (For non hindi speakers ,i love this poem -let me translate it -me

> too a non native hindi speaker)-

> Non sucess or failure is a challenege -Take it.

> Rectify the errors and reform

> Renounce your sleep and peace until you succeed

> Without any act,there is no success

> For the one who tries,there is no failure

>

> I thought medical analogy would help.No worries.Pls share your

chart.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep ji,

> >

> > Truly saying ..kuch samajh nahi aaya...and everything went above

> my

> > head.

> >

> > Sir please include my chart too in your analysis so that it

> becomes

> > more easier for me.

> >

> > Sir it will be better if you explain in astrological terms

instead

> of

> > Medical, so that it becomes more clear in more lines which have

> > details in it.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> >

> > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear shri Tarun

> > >

> > > I will be sharing some charts and you can see how i am

> > using.Aspects

> > > are possible only -or to be more clear -You can start an

> aspect,ie

> > > Mars aspecting 4th house or a planet placed there is possible

> only

> > > from the position of Mars in rashi chakra.

> > >

> > > Conjunctions or singular placements can be seen as an

> amshas/amsha

> > > of planets falling in a navamsha sector and thereby linking to

> its

> > > root rashi.Analysis are always done from Rashichakra which has

> 12

> > > Rashis,of 30 degrees each.

> > >

> > > In the above example,if Mars is placed in Aries and Karakamsha

> is

> > > Cancer,then Mars is aspecting Karakamasha Lagna.Thus you see

> basic

> > > rules are not violated,amsha-rashi sambandhas are taken care

and

> > > transits and dashas can be combined.The whole is analyzed as if

> in

> > a

> > > complete system.Human body is a system ,so is Kalachakra.All

has

> to

> > > be seen in totality.Individual representations are for our

> > > understanding.Assume how chaotic it will be if we mark all

> vargas

> > > within the same rashi.

> > >

> > > You can mark endocrine glands on various human body diagrams -

> with

> > > one gland per diagram.But in reality all glands and the finer

> > > physiological aspects ,are happening within one system called

> human

> > > body.

> > >

> > > Neither one gland can function in isolation,nor all glands

> > > together.The full system has to work in tandem.

> > >

> > > Hope this is clear.Pls see if my examples will be of any help.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep ji,

> > > >

> > > > How to use navamsa chart then.

> > > >

> > > > Like i have certain planet in certain house, now how to

> connect

> > it

> > > to

> > > > navamsa and how to make a prediction accordingly.

> > > >

> > > > how to read for conjuctions / oppositions happening in

> navamsa

> > > > certain house,

> > > > how to read for 5 / 7/9 aspects of jupiter and special

aspects

> of

> > > > other planets.

> > > >

> > > > I will be very grateful as my whole confusion will come a

side

> > for

> > > > the current debate going on.

> > > >

> > > > I please you for a write up. I am not asking for research

> papers

> > > but

> > > > for few lines to understand your view.

> > > >

> > > > You are writing so many mails to others , just for my help

> please

> > > > suggest me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for this useful quotation.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per shri Sanjay Rath,amshaKA has to bee seen from Rashi

> > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This shloka says details regarding children and Grand

> Children

> > > are

> > > > > to be seen from SaptamaamshaKE.

> > > > >

> > > > > So Mahamuni as per shri Rath is asking us to see the

> saptamsha

> > > of

> > > > > grahas from Rashi chakra.Moreover there are shlokas asking

> us

> > to

> > > > see

> > > > > the saptamshas falling in Rashi chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus it is another proof for my understandings.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lord is too Kind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > , " Tarun "

<tarun.virgo@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was surfing the archives and I found this mail of Shri

> PVR.

> > > > > > Message #622

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is also saying use of Division charts to see the

> > exchanges

> > > of

> > > > > > planets in them and sure aspects too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R.

> Rao "

> > > > <pvr@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now why was she denied of children?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Parasara taught: " Putra poutraadikaanaam vai chintanam

> > > > > > saptamaanshake " (consideration of children and

> grandchildren

> > > is

> > > > in

> > > > > D-

> > > > > > 7).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Look at her D-7. The 5th lord of rasi chart, Rahu, is

in

> > 6th

> > > in

> > > > > D-7

> > > > > > chart. The 6th lord of rasi chart, Jupiter, is in 5th in

D-

> 7

> > > > chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are other factors in D-7 as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > > > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >