Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn Wandahl couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined by a single planet. It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having vargas is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help from a single guy. April 16,1940 - 10.30 1.0 E 12.35 E,55.42 N. Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. Natal Lagna- Cancer Lagna Drekkana - Cancer Lagna Navamsha - Virgo Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and aspects all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and Virgo through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other strengths like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting Chandra and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet Jupiter. Respect Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Vijaydasji, Great example. You have conveyed with example what I was unable to with words. Thanks Satish --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri > Finn Wandahl > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was > looking at > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected > or joined by a > single planet. > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna > is having vargas > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for > all the > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have > the help from a > single guy. > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > 1.0 E > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th > house(Meena) and aspects > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th > aspect and Virgo > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial > even if we > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart > has other strengths > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is > aspecting Chandra > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single > planet Jupiter. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > ______________________________\ ____ Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/mail/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Satish ji It is really HIS grace.Whn lagnamsha Karakamsha Raja Yoga was discussed,Gordon Brown's chart was right in front. When Lagnashadvargake is discussed ,Quuens chart is shown.Lord is too Kind. When garaha drishti was discussed,Brilliant article from K.Chandrabose came in front. Regds Pradeep , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Vijaydasji, > > Great example. You have conveyed with example what I > was unable to with words. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri > > Finn Wandahl > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was > > looking at > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected > > or joined by a > > single planet. > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna > > is having vargas > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for > > all the > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have > > the help from a > > single guy. > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > 1.0 E > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th > > house(Meena) and aspects > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th > > aspect and Virgo > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial > > even if we > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart > > has other strengths > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is > > aspecting Chandra > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single > > planet Jupiter. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. > http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/mail/index.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, whose chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. If you want to check the data go to: http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp and find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna becomes Leo as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does Jupiter aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it will fit all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always becomes a king. But then I am from another generation. Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised for your contention of no aspects in D-Charts. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn Wandahl > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined by a > single planet. > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having vargas > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help from a > single guy. > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > 1.0 E > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and aspects > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and Virgo > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other strengths > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting Chandra > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet Jupiter. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus we have to check with him before we rely on internet infos. Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is clear on how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have this yoga. Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you can see all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, whose > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. If you > want to check the data go to: > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp and > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna becomes Leo > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does Jupiter > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it will fit > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always becomes > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised for your > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn Wandahl > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined by a > > single planet. > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having vargas > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help from a > > single guy. > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > 1.0 E > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and aspects > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and Virgo > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other strengths > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting Chandra > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet Jupiter. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Pradeep, You may check with Finn if you want. But the fact remains that the data that is generally available does not support your contention. I fail to see how the main purpose is solved. If you mean that by giving wrong data you have proved a point, then you are free to your interpretation. But let me also remind you that in Hora chart of two horas recommended by " Varaha Mihira " there is no aspect between Jupiter and Cancer which is natal lagna. Even in Parivritti dvaya hora the lagna being Libra there is no aspect on it in the rasi chart. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus we have > to check with him before we rely on internet infos. > > Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is clear on > how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. > > As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have this yoga. > > Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you can see > all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your > > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, > whose > > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. If > you > > want to check the data go to: > > > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > and > > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna becomes > Leo > > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does > Jupiter > > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it > will fit > > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always > becomes > > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised for > your > > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn Wandahl > > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined by a > > > single planet. > > > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having > vargas > > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help from > a > > > single guy. > > > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > > 1.0 E > > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and aspects > > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and > Virgo > > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other > strengths > > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting > Chandra > > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet Jupiter. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Yesterday you had an opinion that,all vargas should fall in Lagna.If one individual was born at 10.30 then all his Lagna would be aspected by Jupiter.Thus we were able to explain the case. Regarding the validity,i will check with shri Finn. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > You may check with Finn if you want. But the fact remains that the data > that is generally available does not support your contention. I fail to > see how the main purpose is solved. If you mean that by giving wrong > data you have proved a point, then you are free to your interpretation. > But let me also remind you that in Hora chart of two horas recommended > by " Varaha Mihira " there is no aspect between Jupiter and Cancer which > is natal lagna. Even in Parivritti dvaya hora the lagna being Libra > there is no aspect on it in the rasi chart. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus we have > > to check with him before we rely on internet infos. > > > > Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is clear on > > how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. > > > > As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have this yoga. > > > > Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you can see > > all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your > > > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, > > whose > > > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. If > > you > > > want to check the data go to: > > > > > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > > and > > > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna becomes > > Leo > > > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does > > Jupiter > > > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > > > > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it > > will fit > > > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always > > becomes > > > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > > > > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised for > > your > > > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn Wandahl > > > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > > > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined by a > > > > single planet. > > > > > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having > > vargas > > > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > > > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help from > > a > > > > single guy. > > > > > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > > > 1.0 E > > > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and aspects > > > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and > > Virgo > > > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > > > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other > > strengths > > > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting > > Chandra > > > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Pradeep, In one mail you claim that even in this chart you do not have to use aspect of outer planet. Is that right? Do you think Jupiter is not an outer planet? And such a person did not become a king so how does it prove that the yoga refers to aspects in rasi chart only? Actually it proves that the aspects if seen in Lagna do not give rise to the raj yoga is that not so? Any thoughts? Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Yesterday you had an opinion that,all vargas should fall in Lagna.If > one individual was born at 10.30 then all his Lagna would be aspected > by Jupiter.Thus we were able to explain the case. > > Regarding the validity,i will check with shri Finn. > > Respect > Pradeep > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > You may check with Finn if you want. But the fact remains that the > data > > that is generally available does not support your contention. I > fail to > > see how the main purpose is solved. If you mean that by giving > wrong > > data you have proved a point, then you are free to your > interpretation. > > But let me also remind you that in Hora chart of two horas > recommended > > by " Varaha Mihira " there is no aspect between Jupiter and Cancer > which > > is natal lagna. Even in Parivritti dvaya hora the lagna being Libra > > there is no aspect on it in the rasi chart. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus we > have > > > to check with him before we rely on internet infos. > > > > > > Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is clear > on > > > how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. > > > > > > As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have this > yoga. > > > > > > Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you can > see > > > all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your > > > > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, > > > whose > > > > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. > If > > > you > > > > want to check the data go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > > > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp>> > > > and > > > > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna > becomes > > > Leo > > > > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does > > > Jupiter > > > > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > > > > > > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it > > > will fit > > > > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always > > > becomes > > > > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > > > > > > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised > for > > > your > > > > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn > Wandahl > > > > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > > > > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined > by a > > > > > single planet. > > > > > > > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having > > > vargas > > > > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > > > > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help > from > > > a > > > > > single guy. > > > > > > > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > > > > 1.0 E > > > > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > > > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and > aspects > > > > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and > > > Virgo > > > > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > > > > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other > > > strengths > > > > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting > > > Chandra > > > > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > > > > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release > Date: > > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji The other case was given to Inderjit ji.It is not connected to queen.I did clealrly mention in another mail to you. Regarding the rest of the mail,i prefer not to comment.I will come up with other examples,if found. Ok we agree that we will wait until a comment from shri Finn. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > In one mail you claim that even in this chart you do not have to use > aspect of outer planet. Is that right? Do you think Jupiter is not an > outer planet? And such a person did not become a king so how does it > prove that the yoga refers to aspects in rasi chart only? Actually it > proves that the aspects if seen in Lagna do not give rise to the raj > yoga is that not so? Any thoughts? > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Yesterday you had an opinion that,all vargas should fall in Lagna.If > > one individual was born at 10.30 then all his Lagna would be aspected > > by Jupiter.Thus we were able to explain the case. > > > > Regarding the validity,i will check with shri Finn. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > You may check with Finn if you want. But the fact remains that the > > data > > > that is generally available does not support your contention. I > > fail to > > > see how the main purpose is solved. If you mean that by giving > > wrong > > > data you have proved a point, then you are free to your > > interpretation. > > > But let me also remind you that in Hora chart of two horas > > recommended > > > by " Varaha Mihira " there is no aspect between Jupiter and Cancer > > which > > > is natal lagna. Even in Parivritti dvaya hora the lagna being Libra > > > there is no aspect on it in the rasi chart. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus we > > have > > > > to check with him before we rely on internet infos. > > > > > > > > Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is clear > > on > > > > how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have this > > yoga. > > > > > > > > Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you can > > see > > > > all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for your > > > > > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, > > > > whose > > > > > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not 10.30. > > If > > > > you > > > > > want to check the data go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > > > > > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp>> > > > > and > > > > > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna > > becomes > > > > Leo > > > > > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does > > > > Jupiter > > > > > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is given it > > > > will fit > > > > > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one always > > > > becomes > > > > > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you devised > > for > > > > your > > > > > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn > > Wandahl > > > > > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was looking at > > > > > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or joined > > by a > > > > > > single planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is having > > > > vargas > > > > > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all the > > > > > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the help > > from > > > > a > > > > > > single guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > > > > > 1.0 E > > > > > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > > > > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and > > aspects > > > > > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect and > > > > Virgo > > > > > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if we > > > > > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has other > > > > strengths > > > > > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is aspecting > > > > Chandra > > > > > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release > > Date: > > > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Dear Pradeep, Do look for the examples for both sides of the arguments. that will make the effort worthwhile. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > The other case was given to Inderjit ji.It is not connected to > queen.I did clealrly mention in another mail to you. > > Regarding the rest of the mail,i prefer not to comment.I will come up > with other examples,if found. > > Ok we agree that we will wait until a comment from shri Finn. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > In one mail you claim that even in this chart you do not have to > use > > aspect of outer planet. Is that right? Do you think Jupiter is not > an > > outer planet? And such a person did not become a king so how does > it > > prove that the yoga refers to aspects in rasi chart only? Actually > it > > proves that the aspects if seen in Lagna do not give rise to the > raj > > yoga is that not so? Any thoughts? > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Yesterday you had an opinion that,all vargas should fall in > Lagna.If > > > one individual was born at 10.30 then all his Lagna would be > aspected > > > by Jupiter.Thus we were able to explain the case. > > > > > > Regarding the validity,i will check with shri Finn. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > You may check with Finn if you want. But the fact remains that > the > > > data > > > > that is generally available does not support your contention. I > > > fail to > > > > see how the main purpose is solved. If you mean that by giving > > > wrong > > > > data you have proved a point, then you are free to your > > > interpretation. > > > > But let me also remind you that in Hora chart of two horas > > > recommended > > > > by " Varaha Mihira " there is no aspect between Jupiter and Cancer > > > which > > > > is natal lagna. Even in Parivritti dvaya hora the lagna being > Libra > > > > there is no aspect on it in the rasi chart. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > The data was provided by Shri Finn Wandahl in this list.Thus > we > > > have > > > > > to check with him before we rely on internet infos. > > > > > > > > > > Now the main purpose is solved.Atleast to all members it is > clear > > > on > > > > > how different lagnas can be seen in rashi chart. > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said all kings do not necessarily have > this > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Now as you agree to see 5th from Swamsha in natal chart,you > can > > > see > > > > > all lagna vargas and aspects on them in rashi chart. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your tenacity to prove your point. However, for > your > > > > > > information, the time of birth of Queen Margrethe II of > Denmark, > > > > > whose > > > > > > chart you have professed to have given, is 10.10 and not > 10.30. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > want to check the data go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > > > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp>> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp> > > > > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp > <http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Queen_Margrethe_II_of_Denmark.asp>>> > > > > > and > > > > > > find out for your self. In this case the Dwadashamsha lagna > > > becomes > > > > > Leo > > > > > > as does the navamsha lagna and I would like to know how does > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > aspect it in the Rasi chart as claimed. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think it is right to assume that if a yoga is > given it > > > > > will fit > > > > > > all kings etc. and also that a raj yoga does not mean one > always > > > > > becomes > > > > > > a king. But then I am from another generation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, it appears the chart does not pass the test you > devised > > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > contention of no aspects in D-Charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am posting the chart of Danish Queen given by Shri Finn > > > Wandahl > > > > > > > couple of years back.Through trial and error ,i was > looking at > > > > > > > various charts to see Shadvargas of Lagna aspected or > joined > > > by a > > > > > > > single planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means the the Rashis on to which our natal lagna is > having > > > > > vargas > > > > > > > is influenced by a single planet.In other words ,for all > the > > > > > > > interactions of our lagna,(gross and subtle)we have the > help > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > > single guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 16,1940 - 10.30 > > > > > > > 1.0 E > > > > > > > 12.35 E,55.42 N. > > > > > > > Pushya 4th pada,Cancer Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Lagna- Cancer > > > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Cancer > > > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Virgo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter the 9th lord is placed in the 9th house(Meena) and > > > aspects > > > > > > > all the above 5 vargas of Lagna.Cancer through 5th aspect > and > > > > > Virgo > > > > > > > through 7th aspect.All seen in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This alone is sufficient.As Hora is controversial even if > we > > > > > > > ignore,we can see the other 5.Moreover this chart has > other > > > > > strengths > > > > > > > like many swagrahis,many vargottamas etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna falls in Chandra Hora and Jupiter is > aspecting > > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > and Cancer,even if we ignore Varanasi varga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus all the six Lagnas are influenced by a single planet > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release > > > Date: > > > > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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