Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Respected members It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise baseless allegations. Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - Did i misquote ? Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? -Prafulla ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present in this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight questions were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single scope for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will understand ,why he has said so. Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls refrain from doing this. Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could understand that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone debate on such private usages. Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they will privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar ji.Can any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can assume the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate?Nobody can say basics cannot be discussed. This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some members are debating and how mercilessly they are using words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress Truth from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical debate through the usage of unethical allegations. Satyameva Jayathe! Regds Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Shri Pradeep ji Well, we appreciate your opinion and more of your conviction. But let us accept the fact that - most past astrologers have been selectively quoted. You switched the argument from existence of varga charts to aspects. You ignored the questions pertaining to D20 or other D chakras. If you believe that Late Santhanam did not use aspects - so do you agree to his interpretation of varga charts? You posted an article - which was disputing aspects, but not the varga chakras (and combinations / afflcitions / houses etc). Did you answer all questions / charts posted? No - you use selective contents to reply - and rest you skip by saying that - that will be addressed in your whitepaper. So will it not be wise to be quiet until you post whitepaper..But again, it is your call. What someone should learn or read need not be your call. Please do not question someone's basics - if you have contrary opinion. Tell me one good reason to trust your sanskrit or your comprehensive understanding of jyotish - in comparison to KN Rao / Santhanam / BV Raman? But as each one of stated that - let us wait for your white paper. Yes - anyone of the senior astrologer could be wrong ..but all of them can not be wrong collectively. Just read KAS (not a big task to read 30 lessons) and trust me, it is an excellent predictive method. They use Varga chakras. KAS is purely vedic astrology and even computes SAV for D chakra. Tell me - is it possible to compute SAV without considering them a chart !! So just answer one question in simple Yes or No Did all these great astrologer misled the house, by talking / writing about varga chakra - yogas there, houses there and aspects there. regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Respected members > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise baseless > allegations. > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - Did i > misquote ? > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? -Prafulla > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present in > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight questions > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single scope > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will understand ,why > he has said so. > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls > refrain from doing this. > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could understand > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone > debate on such private usages. > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they will > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar ji.Can > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can assume > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate?Nobody > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress Truth > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > Regds > Pradeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own quotes on Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, but you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then kindly do not quote a wise soul. regards / Prafulla regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Respected members > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise baseless > allegations. > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - Did i > misquote ? > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? -Prafulla > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present in > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight questions > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single scope > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will understand ,why > he has said so. > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls > refrain from doing this. > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could understand > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone > debate on such private usages. > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they will > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar ji.Can > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can assume > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate?Nobody > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress Truth > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > Regds > Pradeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Prafulla ji I have answered it then itslef.I told it is your assumption to thin that,planets opposite in varga chakras can aspect.Read the article of shri Bose. When l Santhanam clealry states in BPHS and Devakeralam with such clarity,what about your assumptions ? Now most importantly ,BPHS has clear mathematical rules on how to evaluate Graha drishti based on longitudes.So nobody can mistranslate. Respect Pradeep , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own quotes on > Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, but > you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then kindly do > not quote a wise soul. > > regards / Prafulla > > regards / Prafulla > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical > > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise baseless > > allegations. > > > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - Did i > > misquote ? > > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? - Prafulla > > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will > > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR > > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present in > > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight questions > > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single scope > > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as > > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will understand ,why > > he has said so. > > > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some > > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls > > refrain from doing this. > > > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could understand > > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone > > debate on such private usages. > > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they will > > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar ji.Can > > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the > > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can assume > > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate? Nobody > > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some > > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress Truth > > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No > > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Shri Pradeep ji I am sure of Late Santhanam ji's readings. Just do not stick to one translation paragraph of him in BPHS. He simply said that he could not understand the rationale of aspects..but if you read his articles - observe carefully. But doe sit imply that you agree with his opinion on D charts? In jyotish - opposition is not a aspect? - is a funny rationale by you. Please define what is opposition of planet? If you have bothered to refer aspects using western degree method - then please explain when does planet get into opposition - they are always in 7th aspect (180' aspect). I think - the discussion is becoming funnier !! regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Prafulla ji > > I have answered it then itslef.I told it is your assumption to thin > that,planets opposite in varga chakras can aspect.Read the article of > shri Bose. > > When l Santhanam clealry states in BPHS and Devakeralam with such > clarity,what about your assumptions ? > > Now most importantly ,BPHS has clear mathematical rules on how to > evaluate Graha drishti based on longitudes.So nobody can mistranslate. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own quotes on > > Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, but > > you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then kindly > do > > not quote a wise soul. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical > > > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise > baseless > > > allegations. > > > > > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - > Did i > > > misquote ? > > > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? - > Prafulla > > > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > > > > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will > > > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR > > > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present > in > > > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight > questions > > > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > > > > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > > > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single > scope > > > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as > > > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will > understand ,why > > > he has said so. > > > > > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some > > > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls > > > refrain from doing this. > > > > > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could > understand > > > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone > > > debate on such private usages. > > > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they > will > > > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar > ji.Can > > > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > > > > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the > > > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can > assume > > > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate? > Nobody > > > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > > > > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some > > > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > > > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress > Truth > > > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No > > > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > > > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > > > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > > > > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Prafulla ji In jyotsh opposition is nt an aspect? Ok.If planets are in opposition longitudinally they aspect. Read Grahasphuta drishti Kadhanadhayaya.If you cant understand then read the article from sri Bose.Kindly read. This is the problem.You are thinking if we draw two planets in varga chkras as opposed they aspect.To find the rteason - plas read article from Bose.Else you have to wait for my paper. Do you think ,Late Santhanam did not know about this opposition while making his comment on Varga charts and aspects in BPHS. Kindly read the comment of Late Santhanam.Then read the BPHS chapter shloka.Then readthe article from Mr.Bose. Even after all these you cannot understand nobody in this world ,can change your mind.I am not interested either.You know the reason right. Regds Pradeep , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji > > I am sure of Late Santhanam ji's readings. Just do not stick to one > translation paragraph of him in BPHS. He simply said that he could not > understand the rationale of aspects..but if you read his articles - > observe carefully. But doe sit imply that you agree with his opinion > on D charts? > > In jyotish - opposition is not a aspect? - is a funny rationale by > you. Please define what is opposition of planet? If you have bothered > to refer aspects using western degree method - then please explain > when does planet get into opposition - they are always in 7th aspect > (180' aspect). I think - the discussion is becoming funnier !! > > regards / Prafulla > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > I have answered it then itslef.I told it is your assumption to thin > > that,planets opposite in varga chakras can aspect.Read the article of > > shri Bose. > > > > When l Santhanam clealry states in BPHS and Devakeralam with such > > clarity,what about your assumptions ? > > > > Now most importantly ,BPHS has clear mathematical rules on how to > > evaluate Graha drishti based on longitudes.So nobody can mistranslate. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own quotes on > > > Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, but > > > you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then kindly > > do > > > not quote a wise soul. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for technical > > > > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise > > baseless > > > > allegations. > > > > > > > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - > > Did i > > > > misquote ? > > > > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? - > > Prafulla > > > > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > > > > > > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra will > > > > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri PVR > > > > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is present > > in > > > > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight > > questions > > > > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > > > > > > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > > > > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single > > scope > > > > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam as > > > > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will > > understand ,why > > > > he has said so. > > > > > > > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of some > > > > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too much.Pls > > > > refrain from doing this. > > > > > > > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could > > understand > > > > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can anyone > > > > debate on such private usages. > > > > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like that,they > > will > > > > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar > > ji.Can > > > > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > > > > > > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing the > > > > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can > > assume > > > > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate? > > Nobody > > > > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > > > > > > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how some > > > > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > > > > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or suppress > > Truth > > > > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will Triumph.No > > > > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > > > > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > > > > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > > > > > > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, For me Late Santhanam's reference is very clear. if your jyotish knowledge does not consider planets in 1/7 to each other as not aspect - then I have nothing to add. Planets opposing each other will always aspect by 7th drishti? BTW in that article - Jupiter and moon were in 1 / 7 to each other in D9 chakra. and He said that this will cause early marriage due to this mutual aspects for opposition. Why do not you bother to re read my post - where I quoted verbatim; it is indeed pity to observe that - you are not accepting his varga chakra but quoting his aspects view to prove that varga chakra does not exist? How can this selective quotes does not bother any jyotish explorer? I must simply add - please keep on repeating this, as this shows the hollowness of the whole argument, if it is around Late Santhanam's view on D chakra. I must rephrase a question, if you may choose to answer in yes or no.. Did Late Santhanam mislead the jyotish world for his lack of understanding of Varga chakra? Since you are quoting him in almost in every mail, you must have some opinion to say YES or NO. I will wait for your answer, whenever you are ready. regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Prafulla ji > > In jyotsh opposition is nt an aspect? > > Ok.If planets are in opposition longitudinally they aspect. > Read Grahasphuta drishti Kadhanadhayaya.If you cant understand then > read the article from sri Bose.Kindly read. > > This is the problem.You are thinking if we draw two planets in varga > chkras as opposed they aspect.To find the rteason - plas read article > from Bose.Else you have to wait for my paper. > > Do you think ,Late Santhanam did not know about this opposition while > making his comment on Varga charts and aspects in BPHS. > > Kindly read the comment of Late Santhanam.Then read the BPHS chapter > shloka.Then readthe article from Mr.Bose. > > Even after all these you cannot understand nobody in this world ,can > change your mind.I am not interested either.You know the reason right. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji > > > > I am sure of Late Santhanam ji's readings. Just do not stick to one > > translation paragraph of him in BPHS. He simply said that he could > not > > understand the rationale of aspects..but if you read his articles - > > observe carefully. But doe sit imply that you agree with his opinion > > on D charts? > > > > In jyotish - opposition is not a aspect? - is a funny rationale by > > you. Please define what is opposition of planet? If you have > bothered > > to refer aspects using western degree method - then please explain > > when does planet get into opposition - they are always in 7th aspect > > (180' aspect). I think - the discussion is becoming funnier !! > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > > I have answered it then itslef.I told it is your assumption to > thin > > > that,planets opposite in varga chakras can aspect.Read the > article of > > > shri Bose. > > > > > > When l Santhanam clealry states in BPHS and Devakeralam with such > > > clarity,what about your assumptions ? > > > > > > Now most importantly ,BPHS has clear mathematical rules on how to > > > evaluate Graha drishti based on longitudes.So nobody can > mistranslate. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own > quotes on > > > > Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, > but > > > > you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then > kindly > > > do > > > > not quote a wise soul. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > > > > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for > technical > > > > > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise > > > baseless > > > > > allegations. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - > > > > Did i > > > > > misquote ? > > > > > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? - > > > Prafulla > > > > > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > > > > > > > > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra > will > > > > > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri > PVR > > > > > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is > present > > > in > > > > > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight > > > questions > > > > > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > > > > > > > > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > > > > > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single > > > scope > > > > > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam > as > > > > > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will > > > understand ,why > > > > > he has said so. > > > > > > > > > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of > some > > > > > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too > much.Pls > > > > > refrain from doing this. > > > > > > > > > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could > > > understand > > > > > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can > anyone > > > > > debate on such private usages. > > > > > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like > that,they > > > will > > > > > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar > > > ji.Can > > > > > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > > > > > > > > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing > the > > > > > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can > > > assume > > > > > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate? > > > Nobody > > > > > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how > some > > > > > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > > > > > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or > suppress > > > Truth > > > > > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will > Triumph.No > > > > > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > > > > > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > > > > > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > > > > > > > > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Shri Pradeep ji I must add another perspective. Late Santhanam did not talk of Pluto in his translation of BPHS. But in his article, he used that. Please read the article on Deva Goiwda's Government fall.. Now would you still quote him that he did not consider Pluto in his interpretation - by just repeating his shloka on grahas from his BPHS commentary. Will it not be misquote, if you do so. So - if one does not have full information on how someone reads - then we tend to rely on his articles to understand his finer views. These translation books need not carry his full views or his updated views. regards / Prafulla regards / Prafulla , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > For me Late Santhanam's reference is very clear. if your jyotish > knowledge does not consider planets in 1/7 to each other as not aspect > - then I have nothing to add. Planets opposing each other will always > aspect by 7th drishti? BTW in that article - Jupiter and moon were in > 1 / 7 to each other in D9 chakra. and He said that this will cause > early marriage due to this mutual aspects for opposition. Why do not > you bother to re read my post - where I quoted verbatim; > > it is indeed pity to observe that - you are not accepting his varga > chakra but quoting his aspects view to prove that varga chakra does > not exist? How can this selective quotes does not bother any jyotish > explorer? > > I must simply add - please keep on repeating this, as this shows the > hollowness of the whole argument, if it is around Late Santhanam's > view on D chakra. > > I must rephrase a question, if you may choose to answer in yes or no.. > Did Late Santhanam mislead the jyotish world for his lack of > understanding of Varga chakra? Since you are quoting him in almost in > every mail, you must have some opinion to say YES or NO. > > I will wait for your answer, whenever you are ready. > > regards / Prafulla > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > In jyotsh opposition is nt an aspect? > > > > Ok.If planets are in opposition longitudinally they aspect. > > Read Grahasphuta drishti Kadhanadhayaya.If you cant understand then > > read the article from sri Bose.Kindly read. > > > > This is the problem.You are thinking if we draw two planets in varga > > chkras as opposed they aspect.To find the rteason - plas read article > > from Bose.Else you have to wait for my paper. > > > > Do you think ,Late Santhanam did not know about this opposition while > > making his comment on Varga charts and aspects in BPHS. > > > > Kindly read the comment of Late Santhanam.Then read the BPHS chapter > > shloka.Then readthe article from Mr.Bose. > > > > Even after all these you cannot understand nobody in this world ,can > > change your mind.I am not interested either.You know the reason right. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji > > > > > > I am sure of Late Santhanam ji's readings. Just do not stick to one > > > translation paragraph of him in BPHS. He simply said that he could > > not > > > understand the rationale of aspects..but if you read his articles - > > > observe carefully. But doe sit imply that you agree with his opinion > > > on D charts? > > > > > > In jyotish - opposition is not a aspect? - is a funny rationale by > > > you. Please define what is opposition of planet? If you have > > bothered > > > to refer aspects using western degree method - then please explain > > > when does planet get into opposition - they are always in 7th aspect > > > (180' aspect). I think - the discussion is becoming funnier !! > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > > > > I have answered it then itslef.I told it is your assumption to > > thin > > > > that,planets opposite in varga chakras can aspect.Read the > > article of > > > > shri Bose. > > > > > > > > When l Santhanam clealry states in BPHS and Devakeralam with such > > > > clarity,what about your assumptions ? > > > > > > > > Now most importantly ,BPHS has clear mathematical rules on how to > > > > evaluate Graha drishti based on longitudes.So nobody can > > mistranslate. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Really Pradeep ji - if you are serious..just read your own > > quotes on > > > > > Late Santhanam. You remembered my personal discussion with him, > > but > > > > > you ignored his articles in TOA. If you have not read, then > > kindly > > > > do > > > > > not quote a wise soul. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > > > > > > > It is too much.Not even a single answer is provided for > > technical > > > > > > questions.All that some members have to offer is to raise > > > > baseless > > > > > > allegations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ms Sushmitha asked me straight questions about Raoji's usage - > > > > > > Did i > > > > > > misquote ? > > > > > > Prafulla ji asked me about Raojis usage - Did I misquote ? - > > > > Prafulla > > > > > > ji is in this very list -Ask him before you raise allegations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Raoji did say - One who cannot predict from rashi chakra > > will > > > > > > never learn astrology.This was during my discussion with shri > > PVR > > > > > > Rao regarding divisional charts.Any one can verify.It is > > present > > > > in > > > > > > this very list.How will it become a misquote.When straight > > > > questions > > > > > > were asked - i did say -Raoji uses Houses and drishtis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Late Santhanam did raise concerns regarding aspects in Varga > > > > > > charts.It has been categorically stated,without even a single > > > > scope > > > > > > for misunderstanding.He has mentioned the same in Devakeralam > > as > > > > > > well regarding such aspects.Anyone reading BPHS will > > > > understand ,why > > > > > > he has said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if this does not suit the personal views and theories of > > some > > > > > > one -How will it become a misquote?.Comeon this is too > > much.Pls > > > > > > refrain from doing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Prafulla ji -said - When i met Late Santhanam I could > > > > understand > > > > > > that he was personally using... - Did i say something.Can > > anyone > > > > > > debate on such private usages. > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji said - You know many astrologers are like > > that,they > > > > will > > > > > > privately use -Did i say something -I said Thank you Bhaskar > > > > ji.Can > > > > > > any one debate ?Now i was accused of ignoring Bhaskar ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there is some vested interest visibly eager in closing > > the > > > > > > thread.This is understandable.Other intelligent members can > > > > assume > > > > > > the reason.But who is asking or forcing anyone to participate? > > > > Nobody > > > > > > can say basics cannot be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is too much.I request other members to kindly see how > > some > > > > > > members are debating and how mercilessly they are using > > > > > > words.CAPITAL letters and Abuses can never prevent or > > suppress > > > > Truth > > > > > > from coming up.If Lords will is there,Truth alone will > > Triumph.No > > > > > > matter whether it is my view or the views from fellow > > > > > > astrologers.Kindly do not try to defeat ethical > > > > > > debate through the usage of unethical allegations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyameva Jayathe! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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