Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji 1)As strength of Graha drishti is evaluated on the basis of longitudes-what is the basis of Graha drishti 2)Do we have a factor of 30 degrees applied somewhere.Does this 30 have any connection - span of a Rashi or something. 3)While evaluating strength of graha drishti from Jupiter /Saturn /Mars why do we need special rules?Do we have special rules for these planets at any other place.Namely 5th and 9th,4th and 8th etc.What does it imply. Without ourselves debating unnecessarily,can us please agree with Late Santhanam on why Graha drishti is impossible in Varga Chakras.Can i ever think,that you will say graha drishti is not based on longitudinal distances,just for the sake of this debate. I honestly think you will not change your opinion here.Your opinion is there in the archives. Respect Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I do not think that graha drishti is only evaluated on the basis of longitudinal difference. There is another method of looking at different values of drishtis of graha that is mentioned in classics. I do not think Santanam never considered graha drishtis in D-Charts. even in his comments on BPHS he explains " I am unable to fully conceive the logic in aspects in divisional charts " and he goes on to justify that feeling of inability to conceive the reason behind aspects in D-charts by saying " for the sage has himself referred to longitudinal aspectual evaluation in an earlier chapter " . Now reading this it is clear that Santanam himself did not think that the full, 3/4th and 1/2 results related to similar aspects has anything to do with the longitudinal aspects. I also seem to remember some member who had interaction with R. Santanam and who has read some of his articles stating that R. Santanam did consider aspects in D-charts. So it is not exactly correct to say that Late Santanam stated that the graha drishtis are impossible in D-charts. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > 1)As strength of Graha drishti is evaluated on the basis of > longitudes-what is the basis of Graha drishti > 2)Do we have a factor of 30 degrees applied somewhere.Does this 30 > have any connection - span of a Rashi or something. > 3)While evaluating strength of graha drishti from > Jupiter /Saturn /Mars why do we need special rules?Do we have special > rules for these planets at any other place.Namely 5th and 9th,4th and > 8th etc.What does it imply. > > Without ourselves debating unnecessarily,can us please agree with > Late Santhanam on why Graha drishti is impossible in Varga > Chakras.Can i ever think,that you will say graha drishti is not based > on longitudinal distances,just for the sake of this debate. > > I honestly think you will not change your opinion here.Your opinion > is there in the archives. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Is longitudinal evaluation done for Graha drhti or Rashi drishi. How do you find the strength of graha drishti.How is Drik Bala calculated. Why did Late Santhanam say he cannot fully conceive.Did he mention Longitude. Wh do outer planets have special rule for finding strength as they have for bhavas.What is the mathematical reason for jupiter/saturn and Mars to have special aspects.I am not asking the philosophical part(because that is subjective). Are you saying whyen sage asks us to evaluate strength based on longitudes,Graha drishti is not based on longitudes. Why do we have 30 degree ,factors included. Could you read article from Mr.Bose. As i have said what Late Santanam has privately done(whic i do not personally want to assume) is not under my control. What he has said in BPHS and reading Grah sphuta drishti kadhanadhyaya for myslef is sufficient.He did write in plain english why he is unale to fully conceive -Longitude.Which is true .You or any one else can reads this. Now whether you agree or not is not under my control. I respect your views. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I do not think that graha drishti is only evaluated on the basis of > longitudinal difference. There is another method of looking at different > values of drishtis of graha that is mentioned in classics. > > I do not think Santanam never considered graha drishtis in D- Charts. > even in his comments on BPHS he explains " I am unable to fully conceive > the logic in aspects in divisional charts " and he goes on to justify > that feeling of inability to conceive the reason behind aspects in > D-charts by saying " for the sage has himself referred to longitudinal > aspectual evaluation in an earlier chapter " . Now reading this it is > clear that Santanam himself did not think that the full, 3/4th and 1/2 > results related to similar aspects has anything to do with the > longitudinal aspects. > > I also seem to remember some member who had interaction with R. Santanam > and who has read some of his articles stating that R. Santanam did > consider aspects in D-charts. So it is not exactly correct to say that > Late Santanam stated that the graha drishtis are impossible in D- charts. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > 1)As strength of Graha drishti is evaluated on the basis of > > longitudes-what is the basis of Graha drishti > > 2)Do we have a factor of 30 degrees applied somewhere.Does this 30 > > have any connection - span of a Rashi or something. > > 3)While evaluating strength of graha drishti from > > Jupiter /Saturn /Mars why do we need special rules?Do we have special > > rules for these planets at any other place.Namely 5th and 9th,4th and > > 8th etc.What does it imply. > > > > Without ourselves debating unnecessarily,can us please agree with > > Late Santhanam on why Graha drishti is impossible in Varga > > Chakras.Can i ever think,that you will say graha drishti is not based > > on longitudinal distances,just for the sake of this debate. > > > > I honestly think you will not change your opinion here.Your opinion > > is there in the archives. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Pradeep, This is my first time back to the jyotish group in several months, and I can quickly conclude that your aim is not to have a valid discussion with Chandrashekhar, but to try to evoke a harsh response. It's all quite tiring, sir. Can we not move on? Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: Dear Pradeep, I do not think that graha drishti is only evaluated on the basis of longitudinal difference. There is another method of looking at different values of drishtis of graha that is mentioned in classics. I do not think Santanam never considered graha drishtis in D-Charts. even in his comments on BPHS he explains " I am unable to fully conceive the logic in aspects in divisional charts " and he goes on to justify that feeling of inability to conceive the reason behind aspects in D-charts by saying " for the sage has himself referred to longitudinal aspectual evaluation in an earlier chapter " . Now reading this it is clear that Santanam himself did not think that the full, 3/4th and 1/2 results related to similar aspects has anything to do with the longitudinal aspects. I also seem to remember some member who had interaction with R. Santanam and who has read some of his articles stating that R. Santanam did consider aspects in D-charts. So it is not exactly correct to say that Late Santanam stated that the graha drishtis are impossible in D-charts. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > 1)As strength of Graha drishti is evaluated on the basis of > longitudes-what is the basis of Graha drishti > 2)Do we have a factor of 30 degrees applied somewhere.Does this 30 > have any connection - span of a Rashi or something. > 3)While evaluating strength of graha drishti from > Jupiter /Saturn /Mars why do we need special rules?Do we have special > rules for these planets at any other place.Namely 5th and 9th,4th and > 8th etc.What does it imply. > > Without ourselves debating unnecessarily,can us please agree with > Late Santhanam on why Graha drishti is impossible in Varga > Chakras.Can i ever think,that you will say graha drishti is not based > on longitudinal distances,just for the sake of this debate. > > I honestly think you will not change your opinion here.Your opinion > is there in the archives. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > ------------------------- > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Sir Me too feels so.Inspite of sphuta drishti rules we are not reaching anywhere.Thanks fo your dvise.After couple ofmails i ill start my paper work. Thanks for the valid advise. Regds Pradeep , Jay Richardson <gojrr wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > This is my first time back to the jyotish group in several months, and I can quickly conclude that your aim is not to have a valid discussion with Chandrashekhar, but to try to evoke a harsh response. It's all quite tiring, sir. Can we not move on? > > > Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: Dear Pradeep, > > I do not think that graha drishti is only evaluated on the basis of > longitudinal difference. There is another method of looking at different > values of drishtis of graha that is mentioned in classics. > > I do not think Santanam never considered graha drishtis in D- Charts. > even in his comments on BPHS he explains " I am unable to fully conceive > the logic in aspects in divisional charts " and he goes on to justify > that feeling of inability to conceive the reason behind aspects in > D-charts by saying " for the sage has himself referred to longitudinal > aspectual evaluation in an earlier chapter " . Now reading this it is > clear that Santanam himself did not think that the full, 3/4th and 1/2 > results related to similar aspects has anything to do with the > longitudinal aspects. > > I also seem to remember some member who had interaction with R. Santanam > and who has read some of his articles stating that R. Santanam did > consider aspects in D-charts. So it is not exactly correct to say that > Late Santanam stated that the graha drishtis are impossible in D- charts. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > 1)As strength of Graha drishti is evaluated on the basis of > > longitudes-what is the basis of Graha drishti > > 2)Do we have a factor of 30 degrees applied somewhere.Does this 30 > > have any connection - span of a Rashi or something. > > 3)While evaluating strength of graha drishti from > > Jupiter /Saturn /Mars why do we need special rules?Do we have special > > rules for these planets at any other place.Namely 5th and 9th,4th and > > 8th etc.What does it imply. > > > > Without ourselves debating unnecessarily,can us please agree with > > Late Santhanam on why Graha drishti is impossible in Varga > > Chakras.Can i ever think,that you will say graha drishti is not based > > on longitudinal distances,just for the sake of this debate. > > > > I honestly think you will not change your opinion here.Your opinion > > is there in the archives. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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