Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 OM Datta Guru Dear Prafulla, Fantastic mail from you. 1) But with grief i must tell u that most of ur questions raised here will not be answered clearly as it has been demonstrated earlier as no straight answers will be given. I have seen this in the last 2 yrs of interaction. 2) Tarun posted a mail and the answer given to him was wait for the paper, if one has to wait then why initiate the discussion in the first place isn't that ridiculous. Why keep on continue to speak half dialogues, Vijay Chauhan is Vijay Dinanath Chauhan, poora naam kya Shloka Business & One Man Ship 3) Coming to Shloka business, i have never found a single good predictor who hides behind it. He knows the limitations of shlokas & goes beyond them without forgetting their importance. Shri Raman has also written a lot about this in his interactions with his grandfather which i quoted last year. Speaking of last year i had made a post of the 'Guarantee Astrologer' who makes a prediction gives 3 dates and takes guarantee on one of them, which astrologer can do that. In his house there is not a single book on astrology, what he learnt he did so from his Guru without questioning the Gurus upadesha. That is how Parampara flows as u also pointed out. 3 a) For anyone to even quote shloka or rectify it, they should have knowledge of sanskrit to the purest level. Ask these people to quote the 1008 names of each grahas & the 108 names of each Bhava - this is the first step, how many of them know. 3 b) Then the shabdartha of that shloka and most important is the hidden meaning behind each shloka - unless gotten from that particular parampara decoding a book of a writer is like trying to act Hero whereas one is a Zero. 3c) Forget shlokas how many of us are capable of decoding KNRaos own books, how he leaves hints in his works is a prime example of how our ancient writers have written. He will put some lines in italics but where he does not is the most important key, then even in those italic lines he leaves so many things hidden for the clever and pure soul to find out on his own. Unless one has been with Shri Rao for yrs one would not understand what he has written in his books - this only people close to him can say this. More in next mail........ best wishes Sunil John Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Sunil John Yes - very pertient issues. Please read my comments underneath your notes. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.prafulla.net You have not converted a man because he has decided to be quiet. ************************************************ > > suniljohn_2002 > Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:18:15 -0000 > > The Agony of Fruitless debates 1 > > OM Datta Guru > > Dear Prafulla, > > Fantastic mail from you. > 1) But with grief i must tell u that most of ur questions raised here > will not be answered clearly as it has been demonstrated earlier as no > straight answers will be given. I have seen this in the last 2 yrs of > interaction. > [Prafulla] Yes - unfortunately that is what history suggests. If anyone is having conviction for 2/3 years, then he must ideally be ready to prove the points through charts - not the theories. But again, how many wants to post a point in correct perspective. > 2) Tarun posted a mail and the answer given to him was wait for the > paper, if one has to wait then why initiate the discussion in the first > place isn't that ridiculous. Why keep on continue to speak half > dialogues, Vijay Chauhan is Vijay Dinanath Chauhan, poora naam kya > [Prafulla] Very true. Until then, talking about half baked issues does not make sense and it is all the more wrong at the cost of forum time and space. But how many can think of a forum as community. > Shloka Business & One Man Ship > 3) Coming to Shloka business, i have never found a single good predictor > who hides behind it. He knows the limitations of shlokas & goes beyond > them without forgetting their importance. Shri Raman has also written a > lot about this in his interactions with his grandfather which i quoted > last year. Speaking of last year i had made a post of the 'Guarantee > Astrologer' who makes a prediction gives 3 dates and takes guarantee on > one of them, which astrologer can do that. In his house there is not a > single book on astrology, what he learnt he did so from his Guru without > questioning the Gurus upadesha. That is how Parampara flows as u also > pointed out. > [Prafulla] Exactly. In another thread - Shri Krishna ji also made this point very clear. Most of the knowledge is hidden with parampara jyotish, and those transfer of knowledge does not warrant shloka business. If you observe most astrologers talk of predictive application and then they dare to prove it with their thorough predictive observation and application. > 3 a) For anyone to even quote shloka or rectify it, they should have > knowledge of sanskrit to the purest level. Ask these people to quote the > 1008 names of each grahas & the 108 names of each Bhava - this is the > first step, how many of them know. > > 3 b) Then the shabdartha of that shloka and most important is the hidden > meaning behind each shloka - unless gotten from that particular > parampara decoding a book of a writer is like trying to act Hero whereas > one is a Zero. > > 3c) Forget shlokas how many of us are capable of decoding KNRaos own > books, how he leaves hints in his works is a prime example of how our > ancient writers have written. He will put some lines in italics but > where he does not is the most important key, then even in those italic > lines he leaves so many things hidden for the clever and pure soul to > find out on his own. Unless one has been with Shri Rao for yrs one would > not understand what he has written in his books - this only people close > to him can say this. > [Prafulla] Of course, if these people have spent their life in exploring jyotish - then only they have been able to come out with the predictive principles - not the theory. For example - Late Santhanam has shown the application modules which has great relevance to read and understand. But if we want to catch his few words, without realizing his own case studies - then how can we expect to learn from his writings. > > More in next mail........ > > best wishes > > Sunil John > Mumbai > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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