VP Singh - Former Inidan Prime Minister

July 28, 2007

Dear Respected members

Pls find one more case -

VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

25th June 1931

7.51 am

Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

5.30 E

Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there is no

full aspect.

Regds

Pradeep

July 28, 2007

Vijaydasji,

Good example.

The paper would be great, I can just sense it.

For those who have been clamoring for paper please

give some time. As I have experience in writing papers

in refereed journals and have a published book in

scientific literature, I can assure you that writing a

paper in a referred journal takes time. The paper

needs to be reviewed and suggestions implemented

before it is published to people at large. Atleast

thats what is followed in scientific and refereed

publications so that quality is not compromised.

Satish

P.S. I will be away from the list for a week or so. So

have fun on the list.

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

> Dear Respected members

>

> Pls find one more case -

>

> VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

>

> 25th June 1931

> 7.51 am

> Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> 5.30 E

>

> Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> exalted.

> Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

> Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

> Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

>

> Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

>

> Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) -

> but there is no

> full aspect.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

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July 28, 2007

Dear Satish ji

I thank you heartfully for th continous support during this journey.

Thank you again for the valid advise.It is nice to know about your

experience and published scientific book.

With no prior experience i may make many errors.Thus i want

considerable amount of time.I have to buy more books and study

different aspects.I will then submit it for review.I do not want to

present something in haste in front of the astrological community.

Wish you a nice break.

Regds

Pradeep

com, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Vijaydasji,

>

> Good example.

>

> The paper would be great, I can just sense it.

>

> For those who have been clamoring for paper please

> give some time. As I have experience in writing papers

> in refereed journals and have a published book in

> scientific literature, I can assure you that writing a

> paper in a referred journal takes time. The paper

> needs to be reviewed and suggestions implemented

> before it is published to people at large. Atleast

> thats what is followed in scientific and refereed

> publications so that quality is not compromised.

>

> Satish

>

> P.S. I will be away from the list for a week or so. So

> have fun on the list.

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Pls find one more case -

> >

> > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> >

> > 25th June 1931

> > 7.51 am

> > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > 5.30 E

> >

> > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> > exalted.

> > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> >

> > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> >

> > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) -

> > but there is no

> > full aspect.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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July 28, 2007

Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

Cancer

Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

Cancer

Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

get some clues going forward.

Regards,

Krishna

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Respected members

>

> Pls find one more case -

>

> VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

>

> 25th June 1931

> 7.51 am

> Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> 5.30 E

>

> Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

>

> Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

>

> Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> is no

> full aspect.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

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July 28, 2007

I have one chart of my friend,

she has guru in all her varga charts ???

can she be Prime minster ????

Libra lagna in D-1 and guru in it.

Regards,

Tarun

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

>

> Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> Cancer

> Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> Cancer

> Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

>

> Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> get some clues going forward.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Pls find one more case -

> >

> > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> >

> > 25th June 1931

> > 7.51 am

> > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > 5.30 E

> >

> > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> >

> > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> >

> > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > is no

> > full aspect.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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July 28, 2007

Dear Shri Tarun

Post her chart.We will see.Neither all who are having this will

become PM nor all PM's will have this combo.It constitutes on RY and

one has to see the strength.

The more the number of RY ,better the results.Also the strength of

the aspecting planets and the strength of tth chart as a whole is

important.

Regds

Pradeep

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> I have one chart of my friend,

>

> she has guru in all her varga charts ???

>

> can she be Prime minster ????

>

> Libra lagna in D-1 and guru in it.

>

> Regards,

> Tarun

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> >

> > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> >

> > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> > get some clues going forward.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Respected members

> > >

> > > Pls find one more case -

> > >

> > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > >

> > > 25th June 1931

> > > 7.51 am

> > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > 5.30 E

> > >

> > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > >

> > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > >

> > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > > is no

> > > full aspect.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

>

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>

July 28, 2007

Dear Tarunji,

a)If the planet Sun, or the Lagna Lord in combination

with this Sun, is in the 10th, in the Vargas,

with supported dashas running, then one can become

a politician, and attain name and fame.

b) Venus in Jupiter sign, Mercury star and aspected

by Saturn produces a Minister.

c) Saturn in Mercury Sign, Jupiter star, and aspected

by Venus,also causes same.

d) Saturn in Venus sign, Moon star,aspected by Mercury

also can give the above results.

General Rule-

The 1st,6th,9th,10th and 11th houses should receive

beneficial aspects.

1st - shows self efforts

6th - loss to opponent .

9th - Purva punya .

10th - Name,fame,Popularity.

11th - Promising success in elections,fulfillment

and realisation of desires.

Please do not ask me to authenticate any of my above statements,

or whatever I make in future, as time would be spent without

any advantage. Its either take it or leave it. But hope this

helps to some little extent.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> I have one chart of my friend,

>

> she has guru in all her varga charts ???

>

> can she be Prime minster ????

>

> Libra lagna in D-1 and guru in it.

>

> Regards,

> Tarun

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> >

> > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> >

> > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> > get some clues going forward.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Respected members

> > >

> > > Pls find one more case -

> > >

> > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > >

> > > 25th June 1931

> > > 7.51 am

> > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > 5.30 E

> > >

> > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > >

> > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > >

> > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > > is no

> > > full aspect.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

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> >

>

July 28, 2007

Dear Krishna ji

It is really interesting.One can get an impression like you have said

This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter promising the

Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the same rashi in

many vargas.

It is thus having vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha etc.

More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna Dashamsha as well

as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi chakra.

It is really strong.

If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be seen from

Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY involving the

dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in the 4th.In

Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji has no dearth

for horoscopes.

I will request.

Regds

Pradeep

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

>

> Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> Cancer

> Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> Cancer

> Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

>

> Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> get some clues going forward.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Pls find one more case -

> >

> > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> >

> > 25th June 1931

> > 7.51 am

> > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > 5.30 E

> >

> > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> >

> > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> >

> > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > is no

> > full aspect.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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July 28, 2007

Dear Bhaskar ji,

many thanks for your mail and providing me the ideas which will help

me in my future explorations.

No sir, your words definately have experience behind them and so i

cannot ask for proofs for it.

This will definately help me out sir.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Tarunji,

>

> a)If the planet Sun, or the Lagna Lord in combination

> with this Sun, is in the 10th, in the Vargas,

> with supported dashas running, then one can become

> a politician, and attain name and fame.

>

> b) Venus in Jupiter sign, Mercury star and aspected

> by Saturn produces a Minister.

>

> c) Saturn in Mercury Sign, Jupiter star, and aspected

> by Venus,also causes same.

>

> d) Saturn in Venus sign, Moon star,aspected by Mercury

> also can give the above results.

>

> General Rule-

> The 1st,6th,9th,10th and 11th houses should receive

> beneficial aspects.

> 1st - shows self efforts

> 6th - loss to opponent .

> 9th - Purva punya .

> 10th - Name,fame,Popularity.

> 11th - Promising success in elections,fulfillment

> and realisation of desires.

>

> Please do not ask me to authenticate any of my above statements,

> or whatever I make in future, as time would be spent without

> any advantage. Its either take it or leave it. But hope this

> helps to some little extent.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > I have one chart of my friend,

> >

> > she has guru in all her varga charts ???

> >

> > can she be Prime minster ????

> >

> > Libra lagna in D-1 and guru in it.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tarun

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > >

> > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> > >

> > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> > > get some clues going forward.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > >

> > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > >

> > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > 7.51 am

> > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > 5.30 E

> > > >

> > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > >

> > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > > > is no

> > > > full aspect.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > >

> >

>

July 28, 2007

Dear Pradeep ji,

Following are her details.

April 18, 1982

Time: 7:36:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

Jodhpur, India

Warm Regards,

Tarun

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Tarun

>

> Post her chart.We will see.Neither all who are having this will

> become PM nor all PM's will have this combo.It constitutes on RY

and

> one has to see the strength.

>

> The more the number of RY ,better the results.Also the strength of

> the aspecting planets and the strength of tth chart as a whole is

> important.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > I have one chart of my friend,

> >

> > she has guru in all her varga charts ???

> >

> > can she be Prime minster ????

> >

> > Libra lagna in D-1 and guru in it.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tarun

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an interesting

> > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one reads

> > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving the

> > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > >

> > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> > >

> > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we might

> > > get some clues going forward.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > >

> > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > >

> > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > 7.51 am

> > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > 5.30 E

> > > >

> > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > >

> > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

> > > > is no

> > > > full aspect.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

____________________

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> pocket:

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> > >

> >

>

July 28, 2007

Dear Pradeep,

So the yoga does not occur as not all shadvarga lagnas are aspected in

rasi as per your definition? Is that what you mean? This does not prove

anything. Have you noticed that even when aspects are seen in the

D-charts Jupiter aspects the lagna there by graha drishti? Only in

Trimshamsha it does not. So round one is even?

By the way, in drawing the chart have you used local mean time for a

1931 birth or not? I may also like to ask if the time is rectified time

as I would not think the time was recorded to within minutes for

regional reasons.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Respected members

>

> Pls find one more case -

>

> VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

>

> 25th June 1931

> 7.51 am

> Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> 5.30 E

>

> Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

>

> Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

>

> Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there is no

> full aspect.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

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>

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>

July 29, 2007

Dear Pradeep,

Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or like

what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if both are

correct. That is why we need to explore more and more charts.

Regards,

Krishna

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Krishna ji

>

> It is really interesting.One can get an impression like you

> have said

>

> This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter promising

> the

> Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the same

> rashi in

> many vargas.

> It is thus having vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha etc.

>

> More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna Dashamsha

> as well

> as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi chakra.

>

> It is really strong.

>

> If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

>

> Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be seen from

> Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

>

> In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY involving

> the

> dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in the

> 4th.In

> Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

>

> We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji has no

> dearth

> for horoscopes.

>

> I will request.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> interesting

> > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one

> reads

> > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving

> the

> > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> >

> > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> >

> > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we

> might

> > get some clues going forward.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Respected members

> > >

> > > Pls find one more case -

> > >

> > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > >

> > > 25th June 1931

> > > 7.51 am

> > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > 5.30 E

> > >

> > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > >

> > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > >

> > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but

> there

> > > is no

> > > full aspect.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

>

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July 30, 2007

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

Thanks for the sentiments expressed in previous mail.

Now regarding other points,as you have said we have discussed enough

and i will present my views in a structured fashion.

I was very busy with family and couldn't browse yesterday.Yes i feel

i had considered LMT.

Dwadashamsha is owned and not aspected.All the other 5 Lagnas

satisfy the condition.For all yogas the strength depends on full

conditions plus strength of aspect.Eg adhi yoga,all shubhas,in

strength as well as some shubhas except one in strength too can

create a yoga.

Similarly in this case,ven partial drishtis can create a yoga.Thus

when full aspect from a strong jupiter,aspecting 5 of the 6 lagnas

and owning the sixth is sufficient as per my understanding.If it is

not ok,you are free to hold your opinion.

Respect

Pradeep

-- In , Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> So the yoga does not occur as not all shadvarga lagnas are

aspected in

> rasi as per your definition? Is that what you mean? This does not

prove

> anything. Have you noticed that even when aspects are seen in the

> D-charts Jupiter aspects the lagna there by graha drishti? Only in

> Trimshamsha it does not. So round one is even?

>

> By the way, in drawing the chart have you used local mean time for

a

> 1931 birth or not? I may also like to ask if the time is rectified

time

> as I would not think the time was recorded to within minutes for

> regional reasons.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Pls find one more case -

> >

> > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> >

> > 25th June 1931

> > 7.51 am

> > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > 5.30 E

> >

> > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> >

> > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> >

> > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but there

is no

> > full aspect.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > --------------------------------

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> >

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> >

>

July 30, 2007

Dear Krishna ji

Ofcourse we need many charts.

But the aspect you consider a controversial one and just the

personal views of some.I respect their views.But the aspect in Rashi

chakra has no controversies.

Now seeing positions corresponding to navamshas in Rashi chakra,even

if you disagree with me is also an agreed factor.

Navamsha tulya,nadi transits,Karakamsha as used by some traditional

pandits according to Raoji all prove this point.

Thus for me if aspects are ''happening'' in amshas for it is

supplementary.I am just supposed to see if my proposal conditions

are met.Extra ones are well and good.

Regds

Pradeep

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or like

> what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if both are

> correct. That is why we need to explore more and more charts.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna ji

> >

> > It is really interesting.One can get an impression like you

> > have said

> >

> > This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter promising

> > the

> > Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the same

> > rashi in

> > many vargas.

> > It is thus having vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha etc.

> >

> > More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna Dashamsha

> > as well

> > as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi chakra.

> >

> > It is really strong.

> >

> > If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

> >

> > Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be seen from

> > Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

> >

> > In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY involving

> > the

> > dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in the

> > 4th.In

> > Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

> >

> > We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji has no

> > dearth

> > for horoscopes.

> >

> > I will request.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> > interesting

> > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one

> > reads

> > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of moving

> > the

> > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > >

> > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D3

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from D9

> > > Cancer

> > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by Jupiter

> > >

> > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much difference

> > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases, we

> > might

> > > get some clues going forward.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > >

> > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > >

> > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > 7.51 am

> > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > 5.30 E

> > > >

> > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord exalted.

> > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > >

> > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) - but

> > there

> > > > is no

> > > > full aspect.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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July 30, 2007

Dear Pradeep,

My view is that you did not prove anything using this particular

example. Because, whether you consider aspects or not in the

navamsha chart, the reading remains the same.

Regards,

Krishna

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Krishna ji

>

> Ofcourse we need many charts.

> But the aspect you consider a controversial one and just the

> personal views of some.I respect their views.But the aspect in

> Rashi

> chakra has no controversies.

>

> Now seeing positions corresponding to navamshas in Rashi

> chakra,even

> if you disagree with me is also an agreed factor.

>

> Navamsha tulya,nadi transits,Karakamsha as used by some

> traditional

> pandits according to Raoji all prove this point.

>

> Thus for me if aspects are ''happening'' in amshas for it is

> supplementary.I am just supposed to see if my proposal

> conditions

> are met.Extra ones are well and good.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or like

> > what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if both

> are

> > correct. That is why we need to explore more and more

> charts.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Krishna ji

> > >

> > > It is really interesting.One can get an impression like

> you

> > > have said

> > >

> > > This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter

> promising

> > > the

> > > Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the

> same

> > > rashi in

> > > many vargas.

> > > It is thus having vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha

> etc.

> > >

> > > More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna

> Dashamsha

> > > as well

> > > as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi

> chakra.

> > >

> > > It is really strong.

> > >

> > > If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

> > >

> > > Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be seen

> from

> > > Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

> > >

> > > In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY

> involving

> > > the

> > > dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in the

> > > 4th.In

> > > Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

> > >

> > > We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji has

> no

> > > dearth

> > > for horoscopes.

> > >

> > > I will request.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> > > interesting

> > > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one

> > > reads

> > > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of

> moving

> > > the

> > > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from

> D3

> > > > Cancer

> > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from

> D9

> > > > Cancer

> > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by

> Jupiter

> > > >

> > > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much

> difference

> > > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases,

> we

> > > might

> > > > get some clues going forward.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > > >

> > > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > > >

> > > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > > 7.51 am

> > > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > > 5.30 E

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> exalted.

> > > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) -

> but

> > > there

> > > > > is no

> > > > > full aspect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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July 30, 2007

Dear Krishna ji

Thanks for your views.

If that is the case,i may not be able to prove anything in

Jyotish.For every Yoga,if you find a corresponding supplementary

condition in vargas,do you say,the rashi one does not hold.

Did i demonstarate what i propose.For me ,if the conditions are

met,i am happy.

Regarding your aspects,it is a controversial one.

Regds

Pradeep

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> My view is that you did not prove anything using this particular

> example. Because, whether you consider aspects or not in the

> navamsha chart, the reading remains the same.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna ji

> >

> > Ofcourse we need many charts.

> > But the aspect you consider a controversial one and just the

> > personal views of some.I respect their views.But the aspect in

> > Rashi

> > chakra has no controversies.

> >

> > Now seeing positions corresponding to navamshas in Rashi

> > chakra,even

> > if you disagree with me is also an agreed factor.

> >

> > Navamsha tulya,nadi transits,Karakamsha as used by some

> > traditional

> > pandits according to Raoji all prove this point.

> >

> > Thus for me if aspects are ''happening'' in amshas for it is

> > supplementary.I am just supposed to see if my proposal

> > conditions

> > are met.Extra ones are well and good.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or like

> > > what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if both

> > are

> > > correct. That is why we need to explore more and more

> > charts.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Krishna ji

> > > >

> > > > It is really interesting.One can get an impression like

> > you

> > > > have said

> > > >

> > > > This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter

> > promising

> > > > the

> > > > Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the

> > same

> > > > rashi in

> > > > many vargas.

> > > > It is thus having vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha

> > etc.

> > > >

> > > > More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna

> > Dashamsha

> > > > as well

> > > > as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi

> > chakra.

> > > >

> > > > It is really strong.

> > > >

> > > > If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

> > > >

> > > > Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be seen

> > from

> > > > Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

> > > >

> > > > In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY

> > involving

> > > > the

> > > > dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in the

> > > > 4th.In

> > > > Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

> > > >

> > > > We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji has

> > no

> > > > dearth

> > > > for horoscopes.

> > > >

> > > > I will request.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> > > > interesting

> > > > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if one

> > > > reads

> > > > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of

> > moving

> > > > the

> > > > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from

> > D3

> > > > > Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects from

> > D9

> > > > > Cancer

> > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by

> > Jupiter

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much

> > difference

> > > > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such cases,

> > we

> > > > might

> > > > > get some clues going forward.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > > > 7.51 am

> > > > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > > > 5.30 E

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> > exalted.

> > > > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu) -

> > but

> > > > there

> > > > > > is no

> > > > > > full aspect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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July 30, 2007

Dear Pradeep,

It is clear that you are not debating and you just want people

to accept what you say.

Nice approach to debate.

Bye.

Krishna

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Krishna ji

>

> Thanks for your views.

> If that is the case,i may not be able to prove anything in

> Jyotish.For every Yoga,if you find a corresponding

> supplementary

> condition in vargas,do you say,the rashi one does not hold.

>

> Did i demonstarate what i propose.For me ,if the conditions

> are

> met,i am happy.

>

> Regarding your aspects,it is a controversial one.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > My view is that you did not prove anything using this

> particular

> > example. Because, whether you consider aspects or not in the

> > navamsha chart, the reading remains the same.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Krishna ji

> > >

> > > Ofcourse we need many charts.

> > > But the aspect you consider a controversial one and just

> the

> > > personal views of some.I respect their views.But the

> aspect in

> > > Rashi

> > > chakra has no controversies.

> > >

> > > Now seeing positions corresponding to navamshas in Rashi

> > > chakra,even

> > > if you disagree with me is also an agreed factor.

> > >

> > > Navamsha tulya,nadi transits,Karakamsha as used by some

> > > traditional

> > > pandits according to Raoji all prove this point.

> > >

> > > Thus for me if aspects are ''happening'' in amshas for it

> is

> > > supplementary.I am just supposed to see if my proposal

> > > conditions

> > > are met.Extra ones are well and good.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or

> like

> > > > what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if

> both

> > > are

> > > > correct. That is why we need to explore more and more

> > > charts.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Krishna ji

> > > > >

> > > > > It is really interesting.One can get an impression

> like

> > > you

> > > > > have said

> > > > >

> > > > > This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter

> > > promising

> > > > > the

> > > > > Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the

> > > same

> > > > > rashi in

> > > > > many vargas.

> > > > > It is thus having

> vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha

> > > etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna

> > > Dashamsha

> > > > > as well

> > > > > as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi

> > > chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is really strong.

> > > > >

> > > > > If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be

> seen

> > > from

> > > > > Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY

> > > involving

> > > > > the

> > > > > dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in

> the

> > > > > 4th.In

> > > > > Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

> > > > >

> > > > > We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji

> has

> > > no

> > > > > dearth

> > > > > for horoscopes.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will request.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> > > > > interesting

> > > > > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if

> one

> > > > > reads

> > > > > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of

> > > moving

> > > > > the

> > > > > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects

> from

> > > D3

> > > > > > Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects

> from

> > > D9

> > > > > > Cancer

> > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much

> > > difference

> > > > > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such

> cases,

> > > we

> > > > > might

> > > > > > get some clues going forward.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > > > > 7.51 am

> > > > > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > > > > 5.30 E

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> > > exalted.

> > > > > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> > > Cancer

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu)

> -

> > > but

>

=== message truncated ===

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Sims Stories at Games.

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July 30, 2007

Dear Krishna ji

You can assume as you like.If i juat wanted to debate for the sake of

it - i could have also said -it works for me,it works for him,there

are some secrets,he use it privately.

Why should i spend so much time quoting pramana.Why should i stick to

the rules.

Tarka and Pramana - I have maintained justice.I cannot make you

accept me.If anyone finds merit they may do so.The reverse case is

fine too.

Regds

Pradeep

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> It is clear that you are not debating and you just want people

> to accept what you say.

>

> Nice approach to debate.

>

> Bye.

> Krishna

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna ji

> >

> > Thanks for your views.

> > If that is the case,i may not be able to prove anything in

> > Jyotish.For every Yoga,if you find a corresponding

> > supplementary

> > condition in vargas,do you say,the rashi one does not hold.

> >

> > Did i demonstarate what i propose.For me ,if the conditions

> > are

> > met,i am happy.

> >

> > Regarding your aspects,it is a controversial one.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > My view is that you did not prove anything using this

> > particular

> > > example. Because, whether you consider aspects or not in the

> > > navamsha chart, the reading remains the same.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Krishna ji

> > > >

> > > > Ofcourse we need many charts.

> > > > But the aspect you consider a controversial one and just

> > the

> > > > personal views of some.I respect their views.But the

> > aspect in

> > > > Rashi

> > > > chakra has no controversies.

> > > >

> > > > Now seeing positions corresponding to navamshas in Rashi

> > > > chakra,even

> > > > if you disagree with me is also an agreed factor.

> > > >

> > > > Navamsha tulya,nadi transits,Karakamsha as used by some

> > > > traditional

> > > > pandits according to Raoji all prove this point.

> > > >

> > > > Thus for me if aspects are ''happening'' in amshas for it

> > is

> > > > supplementary.I am just supposed to see if my proposal

> > > > conditions

> > > > are met.Extra ones are well and good.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, one can get an impression like what I have said or

> > like

> > > > > what you have said. We don't know what is correct or if

> > both

> > > > are

> > > > > correct. That is why we need to explore more and more

> > > > charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Krishna ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is really interesting.One can get an impression

> > like

> > > > you

> > > > > > have said

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This in reality shows the strength of his Jupiter

> > > > promising

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > Yoga.Apart from exaltaion,his Jupiter has attained the

> > > > same

> > > > > > rashi in

> > > > > > many vargas.

> > > > > > It is thus having

> > vargottama,navmsha,drekkana,Trimshamsha

> > > > etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > More over if you check you can find that,His Lagna

> > > > Dashamsha

> > > > > > as well

> > > > > > as Lagna Panchamsha are aspected by Guru from Rashi

> > > > chakra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is really strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we get authentic data,we can study Raj Yogas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Similarly in BPHS it is said that RY are also to be

> > seen

> > > > from

> > > > > > Karakamsha Lagna.In Gordon Brown chart it was working.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Roger Federers case from KL,there is a strong DKY

> > > > involving

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > dasha planet and 9th lord saturn + 10th Lord Guru in

> > the

> > > > > > 4th.In

> > > > > > Saturn/Jupiter many crowns.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We have to study numerous charts.But i am sure Raoji

> > has

> > > > no

> > > > > > dearth

> > > > > > for horoscopes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will request.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > > Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this case. This is definitely an

> > > > > > interesting

> > > > > > > case. I was curious to check out how does it look if

> > one

> > > > > > reads

> > > > > > > the positions from varga charts itself instead of

> > > > moving

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > varga position to Rasi. Here is what I observe:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna Rasi - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D1 Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Hora - Cancer - Exalted Jupiter in D2 Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects

> > from

> > > > D3

> > > > > > > Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Exalted Jupiter aspects

> > from

> > > > D9

> > > > > > > Cancer

> > > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha - Pisces - Lagna is disposited by

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hence, in this particular case, I don't see much

> > > > difference

> > > > > > > reading vargas either way. If we study more such

> > cases,

> > > > we

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > get some clues going forward.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pls find one more case -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > VP Singh - Data Source - K.N.Raoji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 25th June 1931

> > > > > > > > 7.51 am

> > > > > > > > Allahabad - 81 E 51,25 N 27

> > > > > > > > 5.30 E

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna - Cancer - Jupiter placed there as 9th lord

> > > > exalted.

> > > > > > > > Lagna Hora- Chandra Hora - Jupiter in Karka

> > > > > > > > Lagna Drekkana - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> > > > > > > > Lagna Navamsha - Scorpio - Jupiter aspects from

> > Cancer

> > > > > > > > Lagna Trimshamsha- Pisces - Jupiter aspects from

> > > > Cancer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thus Jupiter is influencing all five Lagna Vargas.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna Dwadashamsha is belonging to Jupiter (Dhanu)

> > -

> > > > but

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

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