Some thoughts about astrology - 1 - Repeted for Prashant

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant,

 

Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search in

the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

 

Dear Sri Prafulla !

You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are done

privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

whereever appropriate.

 

We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every one's

chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one born

on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses. Therefore

it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani or

Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the underlying

principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya or

Prafulla.

 

If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles (I am

not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that person

is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I just

welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE WHO

CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT TO BE

AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras, but

his predictive results will be poor.

 

For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we, as

astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the planets

are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may argue

for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens. Therefore, as

astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from the

PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts. Sri

KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy with

us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would give

stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by the

planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer. We

can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

 

I will continue in next post ...

 

Best regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Dear Satya,

>

> I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I wanted

to ask u

> what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been in

this

> group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd is

and

> ventured on select topics and people who know me in other groups

know that I

> am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so will

use my

> limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec 7,

77] to

> help people more in chart readings than topics that get us nowhere.

>

> well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired into

selective

> picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

Jyotishya

> itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels will

STILL

> PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for their

they

> know not what they r doing.

>

> this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts, conepts

in simple

> English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-inventing

the

> wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also be

construed

> as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than us

and we must

> live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we all

gather in

> a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

benefit not

> get disgusted and quit.

>

> all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get this

sure more

> peace in groups will be there.

>

> you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

>

> Best wishes

>

> On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashanth,

> >

> > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same. They are

> > in agreement with my thoughts.

> >

> > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who gets

> > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client in

> > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

equate

> > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

mentioned.

> >

> > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I posted

some

> > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one of

them

> > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree upon

> > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

> > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya S Kolachina

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Satya Sai ji,

 

I must say, that I find your posts,

really,the most practical

and containing sense, amongst all the

postings this Forum. You echo my own

feelings, in all your messages.

 

I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search in

> the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

>

> Dear Sri Prafulla !

> You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are done

> privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

> whereever appropriate.

>

> We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every one's

> chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

> malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

> lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one born

> on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses. Therefore

> it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani or

> Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

> don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

> particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the underlying

> principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya or

> Prafulla.

>

> If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles (I am

> not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that person

> is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I just

> welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE WHO

> CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT TO BE

> AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras, but

> his predictive results will be poor.

>

> For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we, as

> astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the planets

> are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may argue

> for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens. Therefore, as

> astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from the

> PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts. Sri

> KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

> astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy with

> us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

> realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would give

> stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by the

> planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer. We

> can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

>

> I will continue in next post ...

>

> Best regards,

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

> , " astro desk "

> <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satya,

> >

> > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I wanted

> to ask u

> > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been in

> this

> > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd is

> and

> > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other groups

> know that I

> > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so will

> use my

> > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec 7,

> 77] to

> > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us nowhere.

> >

> > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired into

> selective

> > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

> Jyotishya

> > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels will

> STILL

> > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for their

> they

> > know not what they r doing.

> >

> > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts, conepts

> in simple

> > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-inventing

> the

> > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also be

> construed

> > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than us

> and we must

> > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we all

> gather in

> > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

> benefit not

> > get disgusted and quit.

> >

> > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get this

> sure more

> > peace in groups will be there.

> >

> > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prashanth,

> > >

> > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same. They are

> > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > >

> > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who gets

> > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client in

> > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

> equate

> > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> mentioned.

> > >

> > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I posted

> some

> > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one of

> them

> > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree upon

> > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

> > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Satya S Kolachina

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

Thnaks for your kind words. I speak from heart. I believe that

astrology is a PRACTICE; not just theory (those it is based on

theory). Hence we have to immerse ourselves in this divine science.

Many successful predictions have come from transfer of knowledge (or

astrological secrets) within the family (or specific parampara) and

we will not find them in any of the books we get in the market.

 

Just one more point I would mention here. Those who do not agree with

my view, are welcome; but I am not really looking to open a thread

for debate here. With respect to astrology, I always superimpose the

layer of spirituality over the scientific approach. I have seen some

astrologers (of younger generations) not willing to accept this

concept. I am sure they are also bound by their destiny, and hence

their views are according to their destiny. In my perspective, all

vedic astrologers (without exception) should have spiritual saadhana,

if they really look at vedic astrology as a spiritual subject. If

they do not look at vedic astrology as spiritual subject, they may

not do spiritual saadhana; as many such astrologers argued with me

that it is just another science like medicine or engineering. I try

to avoid arguing with such people; since it is a waste of my time.

THe moment we have chosen to study vedic astrology, we need to

understand that we have automatically accepted the necessary

commitment of spiritual energy to astrology.

 

I found a level of honesty in your posts, and hence I am asking you a

question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner energy

(I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical drain

of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try observing

it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently, can

experiment doing it and feel for themselves.

 

In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas on a

regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

correct predictions; there is no alternative. Every single house

represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his articles,

that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama (like

a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and including

his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand the

level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

necessary.

 

Best regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Satya Sai ji,

>

> I must say, that I find your posts,

> really,the most practical

> and containing sense, amongst all the

> postings this Forum. You echo my own

> feelings, in all your messages.

>

> I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> <skolachi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search

in

> > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

> >

> > Dear Sri Prafulla !

> > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are

done

> > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> > presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

> > whereever appropriate.

> >

> > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every

one's

> > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

> > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

> > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one

born

> > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

Therefore

> > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani

or

> > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

> > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

> > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

underlying

> > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya

or

> > Prafulla.

> >

> > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles

(I am

> > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that

person

> > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

just

> > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE

WHO

> > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT

TO BE

> > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras,

but

> > his predictive results will be poor.

> >

> > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we,

as

> > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

planets

> > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

argue

> > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

Therefore, as

> > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from

the

> > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts.

Sri

> > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

> > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy

with

> > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

> > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would

give

> > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by

the

> > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer.

We

> > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

> >

> > I will continue in next post ...

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya Sai Kolachina

> >

> > , " astro desk "

> > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Satya,

> > >

> > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I

wanted

> > to ask u

> > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been

in

> > this

> > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd

is

> > and

> > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

groups

> > know that I

> > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

will

> > use my

> > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec

7,

> > 77] to

> > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

nowhere.

> > >

> > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

into

> > selective

> > > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

> > Jyotishya

> > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels

will

> > STILL

> > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for

their

> > they

> > > know not what they r doing.

> > >

> > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

conepts

> > in simple

> > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

inventing

> > the

> > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also

be

> > construed

> > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than

us

> > and we must

> > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we

all

> > gather in

> > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

> > benefit not

> > > get disgusted and quit.

> > >

> > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

this

> > sure more

> > > peace in groups will be there.

> > >

> > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashanth,

> > > >

> > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

They are

> > > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > > >

> > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who

gets

> > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client

in

> > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

> > equate

> > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> > mentioned.

> > > >

> > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

posted

> > some

> > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one

of

> > them

> > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree

upon

> > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

> > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sairaman

 

the lord saturn is represented by the masses and lower state people doing hard

menial jobs they are the back bone if in trouble we cannot stand erect

 

pleasing servants and people around us sick and old amounts to pleasing saturn

the planet all people cannot in modern days cannot fully satisfy old weathy

parent sick and poor and mostthe servant who work hard sweat and the profit

maker through the servants are in the airconditioned room enjoying all comforts

 

but the poor man stand in long ques in temples the vips just enter throwing

their money and position in status

 

how can astrology pariharas work or can we get real clear picture

 

all scriptures prescribe to feed poor annadhanam, feed aninamls and birds

 

identify the real difficulty with the poor servants around us and help out to

reach their heart and they will return to y the highest regard and help in all

ways in life

 

the slow movingtrouble some saturn if identified the trend in a horoscope it is

the real blessings in life

 

 

thank y

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Satya Sai ji,

 

I must say, that I find your posts,

really,the most practical

and containing sense, amongst all the

postings this Forum. You echo my own

feelings, in all your messages.

 

I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search in

> the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

>

> Dear Sri Prafulla !

> You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are done

> privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

> whereever appropriate.

>

> We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every one's

> chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

> malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

> lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one born

> on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses. Therefore

> it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani or

> Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

> don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

> particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the underlying

> principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya or

> Prafulla.

>

> If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles (I am

> not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that person

> is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I just

> welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE WHO

> CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT TO BE

> AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras, but

> his predictive results will be poor.

>

> For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we, as

> astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the planets

> are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may argue

> for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens. Therefore, as

> astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from the

> PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts. Sri

> KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

> astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy with

> us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

> realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would give

> stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by the

> planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer. We

> can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

>

> I will continue in next post ...

>

> Best regards,

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

> , " astro desk "

> <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satya,

> >

> > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I wanted

> to ask u

> > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been in

> this

> > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd is

> and

> > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other groups

> know that I

> > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so will

> use my

> > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec 7,

> 77] to

> > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us nowhere.

> >

> > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired into

> selective

> > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

> Jyotishya

> > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels will

> STILL

> > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for their

> they

> > know not what they r doing.

> >

> > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts, conepts

> in simple

> > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-inventing

> the

> > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also be

> construed

> > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than us

> and we must

> > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we all

> gather in

> > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

> benefit not

> > get disgusted and quit.

> >

> > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get this

> sure more

> > peace in groups will be there.

> >

> > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prashanth,

> > >

> > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same. They are

> > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > >

> > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who gets

> > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client in

> > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

> equate

> > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> mentioned.

> > >

> > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I posted

> some

> > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one of

> them

> > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree upon

> > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

> > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Satya S Kolachina

> > >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sairaman ji,

 

Nice feedback. Thank you.

 

Yes; pleasing Saturn is the tougest thing in life, since one has to

go through the tough path; but it pays on the long run.

 

Regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

, sairam nat <sairaman53

wrote:

>

> sairaman

>

> the lord saturn is represented by the masses and lower state people

doing hard menial jobs they are the back bone if in trouble we cannot

stand erect

>

> pleasing servants and people around us sick and old amounts to

pleasing saturn the planet all people cannot in modern days cannot

fully satisfy old weathy parent sick and poor and mostthe servant who

work hard sweat and the profit maker through the servants are in the

airconditioned room enjoying all comforts

>

> but the poor man stand in long ques in temples the vips just enter

throwing their money and position in status

>

> how can astrology pariharas work or can we get real clear picture

>

> all scriptures prescribe to feed poor annadhanam, feed aninamls and

birds

>

> identify the real difficulty with the poor servants around us and

help out to reach their heart and they will return to y the highest

regard and help in all ways in life

>

> the slow movingtrouble some saturn if identified the trend in a

horoscope it is the real blessings in life

>

>

> thank y

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Dear Satya Sai ji,

>

> I must say, that I find your posts,

> really,the most practical

> and containing sense, amongst all the

> postings this Forum. You echo my own

> feelings, in all your messages.

>

> I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> <skolachi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search

in

> > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

> >

> > Dear Sri Prafulla !

> > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are

done

> > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> > presence of his family members like parents or other well-

wishers

> > whereever appropriate.

> >

> > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every

one's

> > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

> > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

> > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one

born

> > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

Therefore

> > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your

Sani or

> > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then

I

> > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

> > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

underlying

> > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya

or

> > Prafulla.

> >

> > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles

(I am

> > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that

person

> > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

just

> > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE

WHO

> > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT

TO BE

> > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras,

but

> > his predictive results will be poor.

> >

> > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we,

as

> > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

planets

> > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

argue

> > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

Therefore, as

> > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from

the

> > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the

charts. Sri

> > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

> > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy

with

> > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

> > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would

give

> > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by

the

> > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true

astrologer. We

> > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

> >

> > I will continue in next post ...

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya Sai Kolachina

> >

> > , " astro desk "

> > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Satya,

> > >

> > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I

wanted

> > to ask u

> > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have

been in

> > this

> > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the

crowd is

> > and

> > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

groups

> > know that I

> > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

will

> > use my

> > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec

7,

> > 77] to

> > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

nowhere.

> > >

> > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

into

> > selective

> > > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

> > Jyotishya

> > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels

will

> > STILL

> > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for

their

> > they

> > > know not what they r doing.

> > >

> > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

conepts

> > in simple

> > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

inventing

> > the

> > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also

be

> > construed

> > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than

us

> > and we must

> > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we

all

> > gather in

> > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

> > benefit not

> > > get disgusted and quit.

> > >

> > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

this

> > sure more

> > > peace in groups will be there.

> > >

> > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashanth,

> > > >

> > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

They are

> > > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > > >

> > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who

gets

> > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client

in

> > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

> > equate

> > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> > mentioned.

> > > >

> > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

posted

> > some

> > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one

of

> > them

> > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to

agree upon

> > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance

our

> > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > >

> >

 

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Dear Satya ji

 

You have raised a very interesting and thought provoking point. Astrology drains

the energy level of the astrologer and if he is not a spiritual soul - he rarely

gets to recover them.

 

Many traditionalists - have personbally asked me to stay away from making

predictions and just do the astrology observations - if at all I have interest.

Perhaps that was the reason. One more thing, which I am told that - many times,

it is astrologer's karma gets involved in contributing those things happen (i

mean in terms of predictive events). If we observe the mythology - many events

take place for blessings and / or shrapa. So likewise, when astrologer predicts

- if he is spiritual soul (or say pure soul) - his saying (desire) works as

blessing / curse.

 

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

http://www.prafulla.net

 

There are two kinds of light: (a) the glow that illumines, and (b) the glare

that obscures.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> skolachi

> Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:44:53 -0000

>

> Re: Some thoughts about astrology - 1 - Repeted

> for Prashant

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar,

>

> Thnaks for your kind words. I speak from heart. I believe that

> astrology is a PRACTICE; not just theory (those it is based on

> theory). Hence we have to immerse ourselves in this divine science.

> Many successful predictions have come from transfer of knowledge (or

> astrological secrets) within the family (or specific parampara) and

> we will not find them in any of the books we get in the market.

>

> Just one more point I would mention here. Those who do not agree with

> my view, are welcome; but I am not really looking to open a thread

> for debate here. With respect to astrology, I always superimpose the

> layer of spirituality over the scientific approach. I have seen some

> astrologers (of younger generations) not willing to accept this

> concept. I am sure they are also bound by their destiny, and hence

> their views are according to their destiny. In my perspective, all

> vedic astrologers (without exception) should have spiritual saadhana,

> if they really look at vedic astrology as a spiritual subject. If

> they do not look at vedic astrology as spiritual subject, they may

> not do spiritual saadhana; as many such astrologers argued with me

> that it is just another science like medicine or engineering. I try

> to avoid arguing with such people; since it is a waste of my time.

> THe moment we have chosen to study vedic astrology, we need to

> understand that we have automatically accepted the necessary

> commitment of spiritual energy to astrology.

>

> I found a level of honesty in your posts, and hence I am asking you a

> question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

> your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner energy

> (I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

> deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

> clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

> through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical drain

> of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

> physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

> you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try observing

> it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

> energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

> understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently, can

> experiment doing it and feel for themselves.

>

> In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas on a

> regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

> correct predictions; there is no alternative. Every single house

> represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

> several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his articles,

> that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama (like

> a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

> horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and including

> his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand the

> level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

> necessary.

>

> Best regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Satya Sai ji,

>>

>> I must say, that I find your posts,

>> really,the most practical

>> and containing sense, amongst all the

>> postings this Forum. You echo my own

>> feelings, in all your messages.

>>

>> I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

>>

>> best wishes,

>> Bhaskar.

>>

>>

>>

>> , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

>> <skolachi@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Prashant,

>>>

>>> Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search

> in

>>> the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

>>> originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

>>>

>>> Dear Sri Prafulla !

>>> You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are

> done

>>> privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

>>> presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

>>> whereever appropriate.

>>>

>>> We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every

> one's

>>> chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

>>> malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

>>> lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one

> born

>>> on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

> Therefore

>>> it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani

> or

>>> Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

>>> don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

>>> particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

> underlying

>>> principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya

> or

>>> Prafulla.

>>>

>>> If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles

> (I am

>>> not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that

> person

>>> is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

> just

>>> welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE

> WHO

>>> CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT

> TO BE

>>> AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras,

> but

>>> his predictive results will be poor.

>>>

>>> For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we,

> as

>>> astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

> planets

>>> are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

> argue

>>> for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

> Therefore, as

>>> astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from

> the

>>> PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts.

> Sri

>>> KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

>>> connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

>>> astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

>>> astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy

> with

>>> us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

>>> realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would

> give

>>> stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by

> the

>>> planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer.

> We

>>> can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

>>>

>>> I will continue in next post ...

>>>

>>> Best regards,

>>> Satya Sai Kolachina

>>>

>>> , " astro desk "

>>> <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Satya,

>>>>

>>>> I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I

> wanted

>>> to ask u

>>>> what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been

> in

>>> this

>>>> group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd

> is

>>> and

>>>> ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

> groups

>>> know that I

>>>> am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

> will

>>> use my

>>>> limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec

> 7,

>>> 77] to

>>>> help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

> nowhere.

>>>>

>>>> well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

> into

>>> selective

>>>> picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

>>> Jyotishya

>>>> itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels

> will

>>> STILL

>>>> PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for

> their

>>> they

>>>> know not what they r doing.

>>>>

>>>> this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

> conepts

>>> in simple

>>>> English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

> inventing

>>> the

>>>> wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also

> be

>>> construed

>>>> as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than

> us

>>> and we must

>>>> live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we

> all

>>> gather in

>>>> a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

>>> benefit not

>>>> get disgusted and quit.

>>>>

>>>> all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

> this

>>> sure more

>>>> peace in groups will be there.

>>>>

>>>> you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

>>>>

>>>> Best wishes

>>>>

>>>> On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Prashanth,

>>>>>

>>>>> Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

> They are

>>>>> in agreement with my thoughts.

>>>>>

>>>>> You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who

> gets

>>>>> that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client

> in

>>>>> need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

>>> equate

>>>>> to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

>>> mentioned.

>>>>>

>>>>> If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

> posted

>>> some

>>>>> of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one

> of

>>> them

>>>>> I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree

> upon

>>>>> them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

>>>>> strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

>>>>>

>>>>> Best regards,

>>>>> Satya S Kolachina

>>>>>

>>>

>>

 

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Dear Shri Satya Saiji,

 

//Many successful predictions have come from transfer of knowledge (or

astrological secrets) within the family (or specific parampara) and

we will not find them in any of the books we get in the market. //

 

Yes those are lucky ones, in small villages,towns and also maybe in

cities,

who have received this knowledge from hierarchy and within the family.

Most of the authors certainly do not spell out the actual secrets of

their

predictive methods in their books. They just write enough to

make the book sell.(This is a general statement)

 

// In my perspective, all vedic astrologers (without exception)

should have spiritual saadhana, if they really look at vedic

astrology as a spiritual subject. If

they do not look at vedic astrology as spiritual subject, they

may not do spiritual saadhana.....

The moment we have chosen to study vedic astrology, we

need to understand that we have automatically accepted the

necessary commitment of spiritual energy to astrology.//

 

Well said Sir. No one could have said this point as beautifully

as you mentioned. For the earnest student and new entrant

in field of astrology, its a automatic commitment and

also a unforced, and resultant climb towards spiritual progress

and sadhana. For instance a man who otherwise is a good

man, but has drinking habit, and takes entry into learning

astrology due to deep interest, would now feel the

pinch everytime, he takes a drink, and a time would come

when after a drink he would feel utmost gulty when he touches

a book on astrology. No good astrologer would allow to remain

in his system , for long, feelings of zealousy, lust, complexes,

angerness, revenge, etcetra, as he would feel his conscious

reminding him everytime, that he is a astrologer and not supposed

to behave like this, or nurture such base feelings.

 

 

// I found a level of honesty in your posts, and hence I am asking you a

question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner energy

(I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical drain

of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try observing

it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently, can

experiment doing it and feel for themselves. //

 

You are absolutely right that lots of spiitual energy gets drained by

astrological services, especially through " Vak " or " Vachana "

or utterances by a spiritual astrologer.

Whe a astrologer predicts a good event for future with regards

to any factor , to the native, then this prediction works like a

blessing for the native, and if the astrologer is good, then along

with this prediction some spiritual power of the astrologer would

also be taken away from him, to make the prediction come true.

It is a simple case , working on same principles, at times like

law of transfer in case of elevated personalities like RamKrishna

Paramhansa and Jesus Christ. They could take away others

serious painful bodily conditions on their own body, and relieve

the sufferer of his pain. In the astrologers case his spiritualism is

put to stake and is deducted whenever he utters a blessing which

may not be there in the chart, or if he blesses more than what the

chart allows.

Let me also tell You that

I have read at few places, that for a person who thinks, the

loss of physical energy is more, than to a person, who does

physical labout for the major part of the day. Thinking eats

away lots of physical energy. Spiritual energy is no doubt

taken away when the astrologers keeps predicting. In fact

many good traditional astrologers would never take more

than 3 or maximum 5 cases on any single day, just so that

their energy would not be wasted. I know personally

whenever I read for 3-4 hours for a person related to my family

circle, my head becomes numb for next 2 hours, cannot speak,

think or co-relate to memory for these 2 hours,

and repent that why did I allow that person so much time.

Refilling can be done by regualr spiritual sadhana. For me,

though I have had a pact with lord Krishna, that apart from

Professional commitments , I would continue helping

to people on the Forums and in personal life too

without any charges,wherever possible, and for the time and

labour lost due to attending this service I would of course be

missing some time of japa or Pathan , for which I ask the

Lord to treat the same as a part of my spiritual sadhana itself.

 

 

// In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas on a

regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

correct predictions; there is no alternative. //

 

Yes the ultimate truth. Whether one is a PHd in astrology or a Master

of Jyotish, but without blessings of the Planets, which are

but the manifestations of the Alminghty, one cannot talk about

the planetary effects in a truthful manner, to the native.

 

//Every single house

represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his articles,

that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama (like

a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and including

his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand the

level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

necessary.//

 

Shri KN Rao is the best example of synthesis bewteen spirituality and

astrology. They both are synonymous and complimentary to each other,

and one has to have his stock of spiritualism in proper place, to

continue

good work in astrology.

 

Sorry for the long mail.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

> your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner energy

> (I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

> deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

> clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

> through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical drain

> of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

> physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

> you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try observing

> it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

> energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

> understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently, can

> experiment doing it and feel for themselves.

>

> In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas on a

> regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

> correct predictions; there is no alternative. Every single house

> represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

> several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his articles,

> that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama (like

> a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

> horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and including

> his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand the

> level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

> necessary.

>

> Best regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satya Sai ji,

> >

> > I must say, that I find your posts,

> > really,the most practical

> > and containing sense, amongst all the

> > postings this Forum. You echo my own

> > feelings, in all your messages.

> >

> > I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> > <skolachi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prashant,

> > >

> > > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search

> in

> > > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> > > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Prafulla !

> > > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are

> done

> > > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> > > presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers

> > > whereever appropriate.

> > >

> > > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every

> one's

> > > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are

> > > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past

> > > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one

> born

> > > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

> Therefore

> > > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani

> or

> > > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I

> > > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the

> > > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

> underlying

> > > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya

> or

> > > Prafulla.

> > >

> > > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles

> (I am

> > > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that

> person

> > > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

> just

> > > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE

> WHO

> > > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT

> TO BE

> > > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras,

> but

> > > his predictive results will be poor.

> > >

> > > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we,

> as

> > > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

> planets

> > > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

> argue

> > > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

> Therefore, as

> > > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from

> the

> > > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts.

> Sri

> > > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> > > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the

> > > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> > > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy

> with

> > > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever

> > > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would

> give

> > > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by

> the

> > > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer.

> We

> > > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

> > >

> > > I will continue in next post ...

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Satya Sai Kolachina

> > >

> > > , " astro desk "

> > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Satya,

> > > >

> > > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I

> wanted

> > > to ask u

> > > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been

> in

> > > this

> > > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd

> is

> > > and

> > > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

> groups

> > > know that I

> > > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

> will

> > > use my

> > > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec

> 7,

> > > 77] to

> > > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

> nowhere.

> > > >

> > > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

> into

> > > selective

> > > > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding

> > > Jyotishya

> > > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels

> will

> > > STILL

> > > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for

> their

> > > they

> > > > know not what they r doing.

> > > >

> > > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

> conepts

> > > in simple

> > > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

> inventing

> > > the

> > > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also

> be

> > > construed

> > > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than

> us

> > > and we must

> > > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we

> all

> > > gather in

> > > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must

> > > benefit not

> > > > get disgusted and quit.

> > > >

> > > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

> this

> > > sure more

> > > > peace in groups will be there.

> > > >

> > > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashanth,

> > > > >

> > > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

> They are

> > > > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > > > >

> > > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who

> gets

> > > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client

> in

> > > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I

> > > equate

> > > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> > > mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

> posted

> > > some

> > > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one

> of

> > > them

> > > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree

> upon

> > > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our

> > > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

THanks for your patience in giving detailed reply. I enjoyed it. I do

not reiterate what was said by both of us, but I can say simply that

our opinions are in tune with eah other.

 

Regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Satya Saiji,

>

> //Many successful predictions have come from transfer of knowledge

(or

> astrological secrets) within the family (or specific parampara) and

> we will not find them in any of the books we get in the market. //

>

> Yes those are lucky ones, in small villages,towns and also maybe in

> cities,

> who have received this knowledge from hierarchy and within the

family.

> Most of the authors certainly do not spell out the actual secrets of

> their

> predictive methods in their books. They just write enough to

> make the book sell.(This is a general statement)

>

> // In my perspective, all vedic astrologers (without exception)

> should have spiritual saadhana, if they really look at vedic

> astrology as a spiritual subject. If

> they do not look at vedic astrology as spiritual subject, they

> may not do spiritual saadhana.....

> The moment we have chosen to study vedic astrology, we

> need to understand that we have automatically accepted the

> necessary commitment of spiritual energy to astrology.//

>

> Well said Sir. No one could have said this point as beautifully

> as you mentioned. For the earnest student and new entrant

> in field of astrology, its a automatic commitment and

> also a unforced, and resultant climb towards spiritual progress

> and sadhana. For instance a man who otherwise is a good

> man, but has drinking habit, and takes entry into learning

> astrology due to deep interest, would now feel the

> pinch everytime, he takes a drink, and a time would come

> when after a drink he would feel utmost gulty when he touches

> a book on astrology. No good astrologer would allow to remain

> in his system , for long, feelings of zealousy, lust, complexes,

> angerness, revenge, etcetra, as he would feel his conscious

> reminding him everytime, that he is a astrologer and not supposed

> to behave like this, or nurture such base feelings.

>

>

> // I found a level of honesty in your posts, and hence I am asking

you a

> question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

> your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner

energy

> (I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

> deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

> clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

> through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical drain

> of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

> physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

> you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try observing

> it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

> energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

> understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently,

can

> experiment doing it and feel for themselves. //

>

> You are absolutely right that lots of spiitual energy gets drained

by

> astrological services, especially through " Vak " or " Vachana "

> or utterances by a spiritual astrologer.

> Whe a astrologer predicts a good event for future with regards

> to any factor , to the native, then this prediction works like a

> blessing for the native, and if the astrologer is good, then along

> with this prediction some spiritual power of the astrologer would

> also be taken away from him, to make the prediction come true.

> It is a simple case , working on same principles, at times like

> law of transfer in case of elevated personalities like RamKrishna

> Paramhansa and Jesus Christ. They could take away others

> serious painful bodily conditions on their own body, and relieve

> the sufferer of his pain. In the astrologers case his spiritualism

is

> put to stake and is deducted whenever he utters a blessing which

> may not be there in the chart, or if he blesses more than what the

> chart allows.

> Let me also tell You that

> I have read at few places, that for a person who thinks, the

> loss of physical energy is more, than to a person, who does

> physical labout for the major part of the day. Thinking eats

> away lots of physical energy. Spiritual energy is no doubt

> taken away when the astrologers keeps predicting. In fact

> many good traditional astrologers would never take more

> than 3 or maximum 5 cases on any single day, just so that

> their energy would not be wasted. I know personally

> whenever I read for 3-4 hours for a person related to my family

> circle, my head becomes numb for next 2 hours, cannot speak,

> think or co-relate to memory for these 2 hours,

> and repent that why did I allow that person so much time.

> Refilling can be done by regualr spiritual sadhana. For me,

> though I have had a pact with lord Krishna, that apart from

> Professional commitments , I would continue helping

> to people on the Forums and in personal life too

> without any charges,wherever possible, and for the time and

> labour lost due to attending this service I would of course be

> missing some time of japa or Pathan , for which I ask the

> Lord to treat the same as a part of my spiritual sadhana itself.

>

>

> // In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas

on a

> regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

> correct predictions; there is no alternative. //

>

> Yes the ultimate truth. Whether one is a PHd in astrology or a

Master

> of Jyotish, but without blessings of the Planets, which are

> but the manifestations of the Alminghty, one cannot talk about

> the planetary effects in a truthful manner, to the native.

>

> //Every single house

> represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

> several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his articles,

> that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama (like

> a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

> horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and

including

> his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand

the

> level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

> necessary.//

>

> Shri KN Rao is the best example of synthesis bewteen spirituality

and

> astrology. They both are synonymous and complimentary to each

other,

> and one has to have his stock of spiritualism in proper place, to

> continue

> good work in astrology.

>

> Sorry for the long mail.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would

appreciate

> > your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner

energy

> > (I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

> > deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping

the

> > clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy

is

> > through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical

drain

> > of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

> > physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual

side,

> > you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try

observing

> > it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

> > energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

> > understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently,

can

> > experiment doing it and feel for themselves.

> >

> > In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas

on a

> > regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

> > correct predictions; there is no alternative. Every single house

> > represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

> > several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his

articles,

> > that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama

(like

> > a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

> > horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and

including

> > his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand

the

> > level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate

is

> > necessary.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya S Kolachina

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Satya Sai ji,

> > >

> > > I must say, that I find your posts,

> > > really,the most practical

> > > and containing sense, amongst all the

> > > postings this Forum. You echo my own

> > > feelings, in all your messages.

> > >

> > > I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> > > <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > >

> > > > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to

search

> > in

> > > > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> > > > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Prafulla !

> > > > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings

are

> > done

> > > > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in

the

> > > > presence of his family members like parents or other well-

wishers

> > > > whereever appropriate.

> > > >

> > > > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in

every

> > one's

> > > > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half

are

> > > > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of

past

> > > > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No

one

> > born

> > > > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

> > Therefore

> > > > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your

Sani

> > or

> > > > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this,

then I

> > > > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of

the

> > > > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

> > underlying

> > > > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or

Satya

> > or

> > > > Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic

principles

> > (I am

> > > > not even talking about the core principles of astrology),

that

> > person

> > > > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

> > just

> > > > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth.

ONE

> > WHO

> > > > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS

UNFIT

> > TO BE

> > > > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the

sastras,

> > but

> > > > his predictive results will be poor.

> > > >

> > > > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that

we,

> > as

> > > > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

> > planets

> > > > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

> > argue

> > > > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

> > Therefore, as

> > > > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing

from

> > the

> > > > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the

charts.

> > Sri

> > > > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> > > > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to

the

> > > > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> > > > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is

unhappy

> > with

> > > > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have

ever

> > > > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions

would

> > give

> > > > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed

by

> > the

> > > > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true

astrologer.

> > We

> > > > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

> > > >

> > > > I will continue in next post ...

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Satya Sai Kolachina

> > > >

> > > > , " astro desk "

> > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Satya,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as

I

> > wanted

> > > > to ask u

> > > > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have

been

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the

crowd

> > is

> > > > and

> > > > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

> > groups

> > > > know that I

> > > > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

> > will

> > > > use my

> > > > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from

Dec

> > 7,

> > > > 77] to

> > > > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

> > nowhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

> > into

> > > > selective

> > > > > picking of the English word which is easier than

understanding

> > > > Jyotishya

> > > > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding

levels

> > will

> > > > STILL

> > > > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them

for

> > their

> > > > they

> > > > > know not what they r doing.

> > > > >

> > > > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

> > conepts

> > > > in simple

> > > > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

> > inventing

> > > > the

> > > > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally

also

> > be

> > > > construed

> > > > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier

than

> > us

> > > > and we must

> > > > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information

we

> > all

> > > > gather in

> > > > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members

must

> > > > benefit not

> > > > > get disgusted and quit.

> > > > >

> > > > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

> > this

> > > > sure more

> > > > > peace in groups will be there.

> > > > >

> > > > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashanth,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

> > They are

> > > > > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one

who

> > gets

> > > > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the

client

> > in

> > > > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer

that I

> > > > equate

> > > > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> > > > mentioned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

> > posted

> > > > some

> > > > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In

one

> > of

> > > > them

> > > > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to

agree

> > upon

> > > > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to

enhance our

> > > > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>