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Hello all BIG asssssssstrologers,

 

Why are you all fighting and contradicting and finding fault with others.

Thats very cheap and we are losing faith in Assssssssstrologers.

 

Assholes

 

Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote:

Dear Prafulla ji,

 

I object your mail........how can u challange Great Scholar of

Sanskrit Like Shri pradeep, who has rejected the translation of

senior astrologers........he is the one for whom we should lean and

learn sanskrit.

 

even KR Rao ji will be proud of his mails. Yes - you might have

rapport with him since 1993 - but perhaps, he will never be impressed

by your astrological explorations.

 

So Shri Knrao, Srath, .. santhanam...all of the senior astrologers ,

(as per pradeep ji) donot know basics........so we must learn this

holy science from him.

 

so i will please you prafulla ji, to control, i really am his bhagat

now...

 

Warm Regards

 

Tarun

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Pradeep ji,

>

> >

> > I would like to mention a few words regarding the attempts made

by a

> > some.

> >

> > 1)When one is asked to have a relook at the basics - It is ''high

> > lighted'' by some as ''K.N.Rao does not know basics''.

> >

>

> [Prafulla] Well, Pradeep ji - your statements on forum can not have

two meanings - one for Shri KN Rao and another one for members

arguing with you. We did not comment on anyone's basics, but it was

you who were questioning " basics " of the members with respect to D

chakra and its interpretation. You were mentioning that sages said

this, whereas they were your opinion on what " sages " mentioned. So

when people not agreeing to your opinion can be subjected to those

forceful questioning on " basics " , then why not all those people,

whose views are in contrast to your view. You should have been

careful in your comments in questioning " basics " of the people who

are not agreeing to your view.

>

> > 2)When Points are presented with the help of Tarka and Pramana,one

> > may counter them through Tarka and Pramana.Unfortunately it is

used

> > as a vehicle to create rift between K.N.Raoji and his students as

> > well as between K.N.Raoji and individuals having good rapport with

> > him.

> >

> [Prafulla] Pradeep ji, I am indeed surprised to see your

objections, if your opinion is conveyed to Shri KN rao in " verbatim " .

Trust me, If I meet him - I will not twist your words, but will

produce your own mails. So now you mean to say that - those mails

must not be applicable to him? Let this tarka and pramana theory from

your own perspective, be also known to him. and With my rapport with

him since 1993, let me advise you - so he likes jyotish exploration.

So where is the question of any rift? If it is your own words are

troubling you, then it was your call dear. None of the other members,

questioned the " basics " including of yours.

>

> Shri Satya did object to your contents of your mail on " basics " ,

but you persisted with forceful conversion.

>

> > Moreover some are not interested in knowing the Truth,but to

> > aggravate things and create rift and fight.

>

> [Prafulla] is it? We all presented classics (Kalyan Varma), case

studies (late Santhanam) and opinion of so many learned people. But

you kept on overruling them for your whims and now asking for truth

and praman. It was never twisted or misquoted - but by you all the

time to win the argument. Can truth only be those things, which you

propogated?. and Can pramana can only be your sankstri translations?

>

> >

> > 3)When such comments are ignored - some say,one is selective.

>

> [Prafulla] is it? You ignored the predicitve challenges on the

chart. You ignored case studies of Late Santhanam. You ignored so

many areas, where members presented - but you always opted to

consider those points (even in articles), which suited your argument.

So sir, had we been closed minded - we would not have discussed at

all. But if you reread all the mails and select the points skipped -

then it may taken another long list of mails to be answered.

>

> >

> > It is so sad to see how people are unable to take Jyotish debates

in

> > an objective sense.

> >

> > If somebody is not in agreement with a particular understanding

of a

> > scholar - it can no way mean,one is degrading that scholar as a

> > whole.But unfortunately some are trying to create rift between

> > individuals and twist Jyotish debates as disrespect towards

learned

> > men.

> >

>

> [Prafulla] Who degraded any scholar? who questioned the basics of

the people? Sir - if you are so sure of your opinion then, what is

the problem? None of us except you, have implied a single negative

comment on any learned person. When Shri Chandrasekhar ji explained

the views available in classics - you even rediculed those sages. At

one stage, you said that BV Raman did not read Dashadhayayi. So sir

please restrain defending your lies.

>

> > In that case there is no need for discussion groups or

debates.Every

> > one can say i am in the group of Raoji,Sanjayji etc as in politics

> > and support individual manifestos.

> >

>

> [Prafulla] well - if any argument is restricted to closed minded

approach with trust being implied, ponly when suiting your argument -

then certainly such debates have no place. But if astrologer is

capable to predict with his interpretation model, then only it is

called PRAMANA. Until then - it is only called bright ideas - not

necessarily genuine one.

>

> No one is supporting any manifestos. It is you - who are choosing

political terms. We simply respect, what each scholar says - and want

to see it it works or not? Can you prove with the predictive

challenges? if yes - we can have debates on any astrological

principle.

>

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

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>

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