Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 dear friends... i would prefer to get individual posts, instead of the digest... does anyone know how to change this? if so, please reply to my email: david thank you. david hawthorne fairfield, iowa - Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:50 AM Digest Number 1627 There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Re: Bhaskar Chart Analysis - By Satya Sai Kolachina Satya Sai Kolachina 1b. Re: Bhaskar Chart Analysis - By Satya Sai Kolachina Tarun 2a. Re: 60th Independence day kishore patnaik 2b. Re: 60th Independence day Bhaskar 2c. Interview result..... Subhash Dulani 3a. Re: Rahu-mercury vreality_au 3b. Re: Rahu-mercury Bhaskar 3c. Re: Rahu-mercury vreality_au 4a. Ashtamsa - Creating Fear ? Bhaskar 4b. Re: Ashtamsa - Creating Fear ? Satya Sai Kolachina 5. Planetary Transits for August 16 - August 22 David Hawthorne 6a. No job sonjayjain 6b. No job sonjayjain 6c. Re: No job John 7. saturn retrograded , love broken twice .. - when will I get engaged leeza_bby 8. Possession of Flat ashwin_062k 9a. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9b. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9c. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9d. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9e. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9f. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 9g. Re: Shri C.S.Patel is no more jjnet2000_in 10a. Re: FAILED PREDICTION jjnet2000_in 11. How to interpretate , Retrograde Planet's Dasha. , bhukti Tarun Messages ______________________ 1a. Re: Bhaskar Chart Analysis - By Satya Sai Kolachina Posted by: " Satya Sai Kolachina " skolachi satyakola Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:45 am ((PDT)) Dear Sri Tarun, In his books, Sri K N Rao rarely used Chalit chart, if at all. Most of the time he used Rasi chart and Navamsa chart. Depending on the context of his paper, he also used the corresponding D-charts, like D- 10, D-12, D-16, D-3 etc; but most of the time he used Rasi and Navamsa charts. I understand what you are trying to convey. But it doesn't appear to me the basis for his use of this concept. As I mentioned, even another astrologer-author Sri Bepin Behari also explained the same concept in his books, exactly the same way. THere he explained the reason in his own style as - when the planet is in retrograde, it is actualy moving backward and hence the previous house actually becomes the house ahead of it, and hence he behaves as if he is in that house. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Satya ji, > > Thanks for your mail. > No problem sir you can reply anytime when your time permits. > > I need to ask few more questions on it that. > > ## Did he took Chalit chart in this consideration ? > > as many takes degree of lagna as start of each house. and cast chalit > chart according to it. > > so the planets lesser than in degree to lagna degree , thus will > shift to previous house. > > I am not so learned but i am not able to grasp the technical point of > considering the retrograde planet's impact like wise. > > I hope you wont mind to share your views on it. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Tarun, > > > > Sorry I am writing a delayed response on this question of yours. > > Somehow I missed it. Here is how Sri KN Rao described in his books, > > to see the influence of Retrograde planets. > > > > A planet retrograde in a sign (a) influences all those signs > through > > its position and aspect as it would normally influence when in > > direct motion, and (b) in addition it also influences from its > > previous house. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in Meena, it > > normally influences Meena (by position) and Karakataka, Kanya and > > Vrischika by aspect. In aiddition, now you need to imagine (or > > assume) that Jupiter as prenset in Kumbha and hence influences > > Kumbha, Simha, Mithuna and Thula. These additional four houses are > > added because of retrograde motion. Thus Jupiter's imaginary > > position in Kumbha is only for Jupiter's aspect on other houses, > but > > not for other planets to aspect Jupiter. In this example, planets > > posited in Simha, Mithuna and Thula will not be able aspect Ju (due > > to its assumed position); however if Mars is in Simha then he will > > anyway aspect Jupiter in Meena with his 8th aspect. On the other > > hand if there is another planet, say, Mercury is retrograde in > > Thula, then he will be aspecting Jupiter in Meena, with his > > imaginary location Kanya. > > > > Thus the outer planets Saturn, Mars and Jupiter will influence a > > total of 8 houses when in retrograde, and hence will have profound > > influence on the horoscope; more so, if more than one outer planet > > is retrograde in a horoscope. Similarly, the inner planets Mercury > > and Venus will influence four houses when they are retrograde. > > > > This concept has always worked well in my analysis. I noted some > > other well-known astrologers (e.g., Bepin Behari) also supported > > this concept. > > > > I hope I am clear. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > > > It would be a great help if you have his notes which technically > > > elaborate the use of retrogression to previous house. > > > > > > Shlokas are to be decoded but if there is anything that he has > > > decoded for this concept. I will be obliged. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Sri KN Rao clearly supports this concept; in fact, he > encourages > > us > > > > to do so. When the outer planets are retrograde, they literally > > > > influence 8 houses and not 4; which means they actually > > influence a > > > > manority of the horoscope. However, some people do not > > > to > > > > this view. But I do. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask the readers, if Jupiter is > > > > > retrograde, shall we take the aspect of Jupiter > > > > > from one house previous as the first house ? > > > > > > > > > > I mean in 6th house if Jupiter is retro, > > > > > then shall we consider it as aspecting > > > > > 9th, 11th and The Lagna of the Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I read all 3 mails twice so that i may not miss something. > > > > > > Definately you gave a lot of time for this analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in 6th with saturn, gave his speech power too with > > guru's > > > > 9th > > > > > > aspect.(with saturn diluted in it) > > > > > > > > > > > > and one more thing should be there, his enemies even after > > > > saying bad > > > > > > to him should come back to him some day asking for > solutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > But he will never play with the science and will remain > > honest > > > > in > > > > > > suggesting them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (17) ______________________ 1b. Re: Bhaskar Chart Analysis - By Satya Sai Kolachina Posted by: " Tarun " tarun.virgo tarun_vst Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:51 am ((PDT)) Dear Satya ji, thanks for your mail. i hope to get some logic abt this, yes this is said that planet is appearing to move to previous house but even then we never consider aspects from NEXT house even when Planet is in direct motion. like if the planet is in 7th house and retrograde , Rao saab is also considering aspects from 6th house as it is appearing in previous house. but if the planet is direct in 7th house, then we donot consider it being in 8th house as it is moving to 8th. So just was having a view that why 2 options. But i hope someday if i get a chance to meet KN Rao ji, i will ask him :-) Thanks and Warm Regards, Tarun , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Sri Tarun, > > In his books, Sri K N Rao rarely used Chalit chart, if at all. Most > of the time he used Rasi chart and Navamsa chart. Depending on the > context of his paper, he also used the corresponding D-charts, like D- > 10, D-12, D-16, D-3 etc; but most of the time he used Rasi and > Navamsa charts. > I understand what you are trying to convey. But it doesn't appear to me the basis for his use of this concept. As I mentioned, even another astrologer-author Sri Bepin Behari also explained the same concept in his books, exactly the same way. THere he explained the reason in his own style as - when the planet is in retrograde, it is actualy moving backward and hence the previous house actually becomes the house ahead of it, and hence he behaves as if he is in that house. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > No problem sir you can reply anytime when your time permits. > > > > I need to ask few more questions on it that. > > > > ## Did he took Chalit chart in this consideration ? > > > > as many takes degree of lagna as start of each house. and cast > chalit > > chart according to it. > > > > so the planets lesser than in degree to lagna degree , thus will > > shift to previous house. > > > > I am not so learned but i am not able to grasp the technical point > of > > considering the retrograde planet's impact like wise. > > > > I hope you wont mind to share your views on it. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Tarun, > > > > > > Sorry I am writing a delayed response on this question of yours. > > > Somehow I missed it. Here is how Sri KN Rao described in his > books, > > > to see the influence of Retrograde planets. > > > > > > A planet retrograde in a sign (a) influences all those signs > > through > > > its position and aspect as it would normally influence when in > > > direct motion, and (b) in addition it also influences from its > > > previous house. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in Meena, it > > > normally influences Meena (by position) and Karakataka, Kanya and > > > Vrischika by aspect. In aiddition, now you need to imagine (or > > > assume) that Jupiter as prenset in Kumbha and hence influences > > > Kumbha, Simha, Mithuna and Thula. These additional four houses > are > > > added because of retrograde motion. Thus Jupiter's imaginary > > > position in Kumbha is only for Jupiter's aspect on other houses, > > but > > > not for other planets to aspect Jupiter. In this example, planets > > > posited in Simha, Mithuna and Thula will not be able aspect Ju > (due > > > to its assumed position); however if Mars is in Simha then he > will > > > anyway aspect Jupiter in Meena with his 8th aspect. On the other > > > hand if there is another planet, say, Mercury is retrograde in > > > Thula, then he will be aspecting Jupiter in Meena, with his > > > imaginary location Kanya. > > > > > > Thus the outer planets Saturn, Mars and Jupiter will influence a > > > total of 8 houses when in retrograde, and hence will have > profound > > > influence on the horoscope; more so, if more than one outer > planet > > > is retrograde in a horoscope. Similarly, the inner planets > Mercury > > > and Venus will influence four houses when they are retrograde. > > > > > > This concept has always worked well in my analysis. I noted some > > > other well-known astrologers (e.g., Bepin Behari) also supported > > > this concept. > > > > > > I hope I am clear. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > > > > > It would be a great help if you have his notes which > technically > > > > elaborate the use of retrogression to previous house. > > > > > > > > Shlokas are to be decoded but if there is anything that he has > > > > decoded for this concept. I will be obliged. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Sri KN Rao clearly supports this concept; in fact, he > > encourages > > > us > > > > > to do so. When the outer planets are retrograde, they > literally > > > > > influence 8 houses and not 4; which means they actually > > > influence a > > > > > manority of the horoscope. However, some people do not > > > > > to > > > > > this view. But I do. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask the readers, if Jupiter is > > > > > > retrograde, shall we take the aspect of Jupiter > > > > > > from one house previous as the first house ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean in 6th house if Jupiter is retro, > > > > > > then shall we consider it as aspecting > > > > > > 9th, 11th and The Lagna of the Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read all 3 mails twice so that i may not miss > something. > > > > > > > Definately you gave a lot of time for this analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in 6th with saturn, gave his speech power too with > > > guru's > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > aspect.(with saturn diluted in it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and one more thing should be there, his enemies even > after > > > > > saying bad > > > > > > > to him should come back to him some day asking for > > solutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But he will never play with the science and will remain > > > honest > > > > > in > > > > > > > suggesting them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (17) ______________________ ______________________ 2a. 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