[JG Chandrashekhar jis Unsubscription - Request to reconsider-19/8

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep,Prashant,RP Singh,

 

Do not make assumptions and self declarations,

Who has left because of abuse and who has not

should not be your lookouts, Worry for the cause

of astrology and nothing else. Share contribute

and help.Dont pour poison anywhere.

 

Why abuses are happenning ? because you people

chose to remain silent when fake ids abuse

the known members here. If You had spoken

that time, then the stage of you

speaking unnecessarily now, would not

have come at all. But you people keep mum that

time for fear of being targeted, hence these

abusers get away with their abuse.

 

Now all this big pravachan makes no sense.

 

When a enemy comes with his weapons, wounds us and

leaves, then you get up to show

all manliness which is not existing in

the first place. Why not fight when the abuses

are been given, or when that fake id starts mauling

the members here unnecessarily.

 

Now dont speak. keep quiet.

We know your concern well for the other astrologers

working here and also know that you enjoy your

fellow astrologers being mauled and wounded. God

knows those fake ids may be of the same

persons who are now giving

pravachans. Everything is possible in this world.

 

And dont form groups or factions here please.

Stay united for your own good.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep, R P Singh, Members,

>

> it is sad it people who have material to share and enlighten the

membership

> in the groups are left frustrated at the status of affairs and quit.

This

> was really disturbing to read even Chandrashekar-ji has left

unanounced due

> to abuses here.

>

> I find this vested interests taking over groups with fake ID's and a

team of

> them too, the way VEDIC-ASTROLOGY of late was mauled by JUST 2

members with

> such fake ID's and has driven the subject out of the group, though

it was

> started to throw the most revered members out, by people with dubious

> knowledge in IT targeted Pt Dadkshinamurthy ji, now Pt arjuni- I was

also

> not spared though I said I have no vested interests with any member as I

> hardly know anyone, BUT DO recognise the few members who have

contributed

> richly with their scriptural knowledge that WE DON'T have , deserve

a lot

> more respect than any one's express self interest who may be

disappointed

> with what they got from any of them, which the market itself will

decide,

> why abuse and drive membership out, we need a few astrologers with

> scriptural back ground to help the group, thse kind have been worst

hit, I

> am not in such a list of scriptural knowledgeable, but my strentgh is

> limited to astrology alone, I miss such members who are forced to quit

>

> I hope sanity prevails and all learned members come back in all the

groups

> that have suffered due to some jealous groups operating within them.

>

> astrology alone must bind us, not divide us I hope he is reading it

too and

> comes back

>

>

> best wishes

>

>

>

> On 8/19/07, rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,

> >

> > If you quit this group, every thing will be alright here. But we all

> > know that you will never quit because you have vested interest to be

> > here. Your own group is almost dead, you have no where to go.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > RP Singh

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Pradeepji,

> > >

> > > You mentioned " recent abuses involving

> > > mother " .Who used these abuses and why ?

> > >

> > > Recently the member who used this ,I

> > > think was provoked by another abuse, but

> > > previously the former member was abused

> > > without provocation. Which one of these

> > > are you talking of ?

> > >

> > > But exactly which abuse are you talking

> > > of - name of person who abused, and

> > > name of person who was abused?

> > >

> > > Which members do you think are

> > > hiding under fake names and ids,

> > > and doing what ?

> > >

> > > Why do you think that this List

> > > is being destroyed ?

> > >

> > > Who are the members who are doing

> > > astrology here for free,

> > > and who are those who have vested

> > > interests ?

> > >

> > > Exactly what solution do you

> > > think should be enforced ,so

> > > that this list is not destroyed ?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

<%40>,

> > " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar jis absence from the list ,without notice made me

> > write

> > > > to him.

> > > >

> > > > It was sad to note that ,the elderly gentleman has d

> > from

> > > > the list.His mail regarding this did not reach the list as his

> > > > unsubscription request effected before the information mail.

> > > >

> > > > The recent exchanges in the list with abuses invloving mother,bad

> > > > words etc has become quite disturbing for many.Members hiding

> > under

> > > > fake names and ids are criticising others for the same reason!!!

> > > >

> > > > The list is being destroyed and is sad.Raoji left,then shri Finn

> > > > wandahl was forced to go out.Recently there seems to be a vested

> > > > interest from some members to drive out those who are doing

> > astrology

> > > > for free.

> > > >

> > > > I am copying this mail to chandrashekhar ji as well and request

> > him to

> > > > reconsider his decision.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Thank you,

>

> Prashantkumar

> --------

> For Consultation charges please write to me

> --------

> G B Prashant Kumar

> `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street

> Nandanam Extn,

> Chennai 600035, INDIA

> MOBILE 9840051861

> TEL 42110983/24340186

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar,

 

I have defended ones who can't or don't OFFEND others or defend themselves

 

I have not got in the middle between people abusing u as it is two way

traffic in all other cases it is one way as u have access to VA u can see I

have defended most people there as at least there till recently only

astrology remained main area now all abuses are floating around by people

who can just buy a book or surf google for a book and start dangerously

interpreting , worse debunk all serious astrologers, I have no lobbies to

back me, still I have stood by many people there.

 

in ur case or pratosh etc no one can get involved as we have to go back to

many mails to see the source of the trouble.not just one or tow to find

fault with the abuser and defend there as u said everyone must check the

entire thread and proceed else will get stuck between two mud-slinging

groups.

 

anyone sided one we can defend, no one defended Pt Dakshina murthy ji as I

have as I have nothing to llose or gain, but know he is way ahead of any

astrologer in the groups on technical, scriptural levels, y'day same team

abused pt. arjun too at least him I know a bit better and I know is also

wrongly targeted, I did defend them, MORE FROM SUBJECT cause then personal

 

what little time I had here I know chandrashekar was good so did defend him

as well

 

 

best wishes

 

On 8/19/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,Prashant,RP Singh,

>

> Do not make assumptions and self declarations,

> Who has left because of abuse and who has not

> should not be your lookouts, Worry for the cause

> of astrology and nothing else. Share contribute

> and help.Dont pour poison anywhere.

>

> Why abuses are happenning ? because you people

> chose to remain silent when fake ids abuse

> the known members here. If You had spoken

> that time, then the stage of you

> speaking unnecessarily now, would not

> have come at all. But you people keep mum that

> time for fear of being targeted, hence these

> abusers get away with their abuse.

>

> Now all this big pravachan makes no sense.

>

> When a enemy comes with his weapons, wounds us and

> leaves, then you get up to show

> all manliness which is not existing in

> the first place. Why not fight when the abuses

> are been given, or when that fake id starts mauling

> the members here unnecessarily.

>

> Now dont speak. keep quiet.

> We know your concern well for the other astrologers

> working here and also know that you enjoy your

> fellow astrologers being mauled and wounded. God

> knows those fake ids may be of the same

> persons who are now giving

> pravachans. Everything is possible in this world.

>

> And dont form groups or factions here please.

> Stay united for your own good.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>,

> " astro desk "

>

> <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep, R P Singh, Members,

> >

> > it is sad it people who have material to share and enlighten the

> membership

> > in the groups are left frustrated at the status of affairs and quit.

> This

> > was really disturbing to read even Chandrashekar-ji has left

> unanounced due

> > to abuses here.

> >

> > I find this vested interests taking over groups with fake ID's and a

> team of

> > them too, the way VEDIC-ASTROLOGY of late was mauled by JUST 2

> members with

> > such fake ID's and has driven the subject out of the group, though

> it was

> > started to throw the most revered members out, by people with dubious

> > knowledge in IT targeted Pt Dadkshinamurthy ji, now Pt arjuni- I was

> also

> > not spared though I said I have no vested interests with any member as I

> > hardly know anyone, BUT DO recognise the few members who have

> contributed

> > richly with their scriptural knowledge that WE DON'T have , deserve

> a lot

> > more respect than any one's express self interest who may be

> disappointed

> > with what they got from any of them, which the market itself will

> decide,

> > why abuse and drive membership out, we need a few astrologers with

> > scriptural back ground to help the group, thse kind have been worst

> hit, I

> > am not in such a list of scriptural knowledgeable, but my strentgh is

> > limited to astrology alone, I miss such members who are forced to quit

> >

> > I hope sanity prevails and all learned members come back in all the

> groups

> > that have suffered due to some jealous groups operating within them.

> >

> > astrology alone must bind us, not divide us I hope he is reading it

> too and

> > comes back

> >

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> >

> >

> > On 8/19/07, rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > If you quit this group, every thing will be alright here. But we all

> > > know that you will never quit because you have vested interest to be

> > > here. Your own group is almost dead, you have no where to go.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > RP Singh

> > >

> > >

<%40><%40>,

> > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Pradeepji,

> > > >

> > > > You mentioned " recent abuses involving

> > > > mother " .Who used these abuses and why ?

> > > >

> > > > Recently the member who used this ,I

> > > > think was provoked by another abuse, but

> > > > previously the former member was abused

> > > > without provocation. Which one of these

> > > > are you talking of ?

> > > >

> > > > But exactly which abuse are you talking

> > > > of - name of person who abused, and

> > > > name of person who was abused?

> > > >

> > > > Which members do you think are

> > > > hiding under fake names and ids,

> > > > and doing what ?

> > > >

> > > > Why do you think that this List

> > > > is being destroyed ?

> > > >

> > > > Who are the members who are doing

> > > > astrology here for free,

> > > > and who are those who have vested

> > > > interests ?

> > > >

> > > > Exactly what solution do you

> > > > think should be enforced ,so

> > > > that this list is not destroyed ?

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%40>

> <%40>,

> > > " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar jis absence from the list ,without notice made me

> > > write

> > > > > to him.

> > > > >

> > > > > It was sad to note that ,the elderly gentleman has d

> > > from

> > > > > the list.His mail regarding this did not reach the list as his

> > > > > unsubscription request effected before the information mail.

> > > > >

> > > > > The recent exchanges in the list with abuses invloving mother,bad

> > > > > words etc has become quite disturbing for many.Members hiding

> > > under

> > > > > fake names and ids are criticising others for the same reason!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > The list is being destroyed and is sad.Raoji left,then shri Finn

> > > > > wandahl was forced to go out.Recently there seems to be a vested

> > > > > interest from some members to drive out those who are doing

> > > astrology

> > > > > for free.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am copying this mail to chandrashekhar ji as well and request

> > > him to

> > > > > reconsider his decision.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Prashantkumar

> > --------

> > For Consultation charges please write to me

> > --------

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street

> > Nandanam Extn,

> > Chennai 600035, INDIA

> > MOBILE 9840051861

> > TEL 42110983/24340186

> >

> >

> >