[JG Chandrashekhar jis Unsubscription - Request to reconsider-19/8

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Dear PJ,

 

I will finish in just a few words,

To reply this is a waste of time and unbecoming.

I dont have all the time of the world to keep

on writing continosuly on the Forums,as I have no

image to keep here, nor to create any.For me

Forums are just meant for relaxation,serving few

needy,and also discussion on astrology,

which I find utterly missing in these mails.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " pranesh_joshi2003 "

<pranesh_joshi2003 wrote:

>

> All those who think Prashant will get a 3000-word, hilariously emotive

> riposte - raise your hand. Mine's the first

>

> PJ

>

>

> , " astro desk "

> <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > bHASKAR

> > U HAVE GOT ENUF FROM so many members forgt me and they did in the

way I

> > can't do and what u deserve, it is beneath my dignity to do them,

> and they

> > have done the right thing WHEN they abuse a notorious, gangster

> like u with

> > tarun behind in creating topics where just both of u hurl abuses at

> everyone

> > and want to be defended by the ones who u attack if they counter

> attack u, u

> > SURELY DESERVE it

> >

> > FROM WHAT I GAHTER, RAJ, PRATOSH, JAGADISH, sreenadh, girish to name

> a few

> > did what they had to from what u dished out on them, I know the

list is

> > bigger

> >

> > for me u r the only one and U R RIGHT TO WRITE BAKWAS

> >

> > I NEED no time max 2-3 minutes a astrological reading takes a lot

> more TO

> > ARRIVE AT and also to make it short to the point it a a few stage

> job and

> > those who need it can ask me will get it

> >

> > did u and tarun not try to dig holes into what i tried honestly to

write

> > assuming he was interested in knowing so wherever people want it i

> can and I

> > must not only allot time to first read then make it a short one

for the

> > point itself and also prepare for a possible chain of abuses from ur

> gang

> > this takes too much time of me

> >

> > but MAKE NO MISTAKE AFTER JAN NEXT yr I can spare time for all

this and

> > more. be patient uc an get more than u can chew esp the abuses,

> curses u

> > hulrded at many which no one else except ur friend Pratosh also does

> >

> > just 2 rotten apples spoil the astro basket of course ur team is

always

> > behind u I do all I have to on my own and this group anyway has few

> queries

> > so it is not my area will slowly reduce my time here as it is FOR U

> AND UR

> > GANG's bakwas u can enjoy it and I am happy if i don't read the

> abuses u get

> > for that is what u sow

> >

> > I always felt condom the sin, not the sinner -that is no abuses by

> anyone

> >

> > but u want me to be selective when u abuse others and if u get back

> what u

> > did u must know u asked for it

> > so u need to face it when u abuses so many do u ask us before hand

> to defend

> > u no

> >

> > but ofcourse as most of them happen with the tarun and ur threads u r

> > building the stage always for the fights none of the other serious

> > astrologers try those low games

> >

> > THIS MAIL TOOK ME 8 MIN - BIG TIME WASTE ON SUCH A LOW CREATURE

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 8/20/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > PRASHANT

> > >

> > > You have timne to write all this bakwaas, but

> > > no time to support your predictions with supporting

> > > astrological evidence or analysis ever ?

> > >

> > > I dont expect support from small flies, or mosquitoes,

> > > because I am full of strength to defend myself through

> > > Gods grace, I just say all that shut up and talk

> > > astrology, and if you cannot defend your astrologocical

> > > colleafgues, when they are bludgeoned, then at least

> > > shut up now.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

<%40>,

> > > " astro desk "

> > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > BHASKAR

> > > >

> > > > U must write to people who write to groups directly and prove it

> > > >

> > > > and I know u do that

> > > >

> > > > else why does ONLY UR ID get BHASKAR THE GREAT

> > > >

> > > > BHASKAR ONLY

> > > >

> > > > WELCOME BACK

> > > >

> > > > when u remain silent for a few days with diff agendas in groups

> > > WITHA MAIL

> > > > to such topic by the route u just said

> > > >

> > > > u know right now i have no time for this, still u choose to accuse

> > > me same

> > > > old lines as u have nothing to prove u r free to wrtie to any

> > > >

> > > > and IF CHANDRASHEKAR LEFT THIS GROUP DUE TO ANYONE i HAD NO

IDEA IT

> > > WAS u

> > > > AGAIN BY UR REACTION now IT IS CONFIRMED IT MUST BE U AND why

should

> > > anyone

> > > > even forget ur capabilities to bellitle people in every group

u only

> > > attack

> > > > others more and if they return some slall precentage u expect

> > > support from

> > > > others

> > > >

> > > > U SAID I WILL SUPPORT THOSE WHO DON'T ATTACK OTHERS

> > > >

> > > > or those who don't defend themselves

> > > >

> > > > u claim u candefend urself so why u need me or others to back u

> > > >

> > > > when u choose to repeatedly abuse members in every forum

> > > >

> > > > I want u to show in which group where this no moderation where

this

> > > trick of

> > > > urs is same

> > > >

> > > > only in JYOTISHVIDYA U R DECENT, rest same oold spiter,

mauling all

> > > weaker

> > > > members worse cursing members with kidney failures, hospital stay

> > > did anyone

> > > > else who were affected by ur filth do it say even me? we

always gave

> > > u a log

> > > > rope, but u rarely care for people

> > > >

> > > > and I have no group like U to have a vested interest

> > > >

> > > > I have made it know manytimes I have a site that is not working

> > > anyone can

> > > > test it also, what else u need

> > > > by repeatedly spreading false hood ucan't make it truth

> > > >

> > > > but if u allow fellow astrologers to dicuss astrology properly

> it helps

> > > >

> > > > u praised satyas reading of u

> > > >

> > > > and a few days later

> > > >

> > > > wrote a mail calling all u got is rubbish and challanged anyone to

> > > predict

> > > > about u who will when they know it will also be called rubbish

just

> > > imagine

> > > > if some read ur replies with such a note how it can be, I am sureu

> > > will send

> > > > tons of curses at them

> > > > well time for u to check

> > > > ur approach to people all will be fine and peace with u and

rest of

> > > us too

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > and in all ur mails u have Tarun to keep ur ideas floating as

u both

> > > chat as

> > > > though it is a personal chat roo

> > > >

> > > > WELL I HAV

> > > > On 8/19/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > All good astrologers would leave the Forum,

> > > > > where people like you would like to

> > > > > take over.You wish to dominate all the astrology

> > > > > Forums, and do not wish others to work where you work,

> > > > > we all know for what reason,so no use trying to

> > > > > play saint.

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal egos are the main reason why people like

> > > > > you always leave no opportunity

> > > > > to see that any astrologer who is attacked,

> > > > > should be kicked out,and not allowed to perform.

> > > > > You never leave any opportunity to see that the astrologer

> > > > > is thrown out, unfortunately

> > > > > you cannot have success in this action in my case,

> > > > > since I am different and protected by the Lord and many.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am beginning to feel that you are doing this, on all

> > > > > Forums, and long term planning is done also

> > > > > to establish base of your astrological powers,

> > > > > same person,. sending enquiries, same person sending

> > > > > replies,and same person sending praise mails of

> > > > > success of the predictions given.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are mistake if you think that moderation is

> > > > > inactive here or anywhere else.It is because of

> > > > > liberal attitude of the Moderators,that the

> > > > > axe has not fallen on you or me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40><%40>,

> > > > > " astro desk "

> > > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not aware of this angle till now but I know this is

> > > > > understandable and

> > > > > > this we have seen happen in JR wehre many good astrologers

> left the

> > > > > forum

> > > > > > like this and this will happen to all forums where

moderation is

> > > > > inactive,

> > > > > > right now VEDIC astrology is in the same boat will die

soon too

> > > I was

> > > > > > surprised to hear people like kn rAO EXISTED HERE AND NOW NOT

> > > EVEN HIS

> > > > > > CHELAS R HERE what a pity it must be that many groups r dying

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JR had a big number base and is left with may be 15 20 active

> > > > > members and

> > > > > > equal number of querents its claim of over 7k must be dead

wood.

> > > > > again same

> > > > > > with VA it can be a few hundreds not thousands

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we must ensure astrology remains the main focus not personal

> egos

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 8/19/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prashanth ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As you might have noted,Chandrashekhar ji was discussing

> 360 days

> > > > > > > vimshottari,with me and Satyaji,before his unsubscription.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He wrote to me the reasons and it was really sad.I too

> told him

> > > > > > > clearly that it is not worth a place to be present looking

> at the

> > > > > > > current style and language being used.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji is at the moment prepared only for

personal

> > > > > > > communication,and is not interested with the list.This is

> > > > > understandable.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> <%40>

> > > <%40><%40>,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > " astro desk "

> > > > > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, R P Singh, Members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it is sad it people who have material to share and

> enlighten the

> > > > > > > membership

> > > > > > > > in the groups are left frustrated at the status of affairs

> > > and quit.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > was really disturbing to read even Chandrashekar-ji

has left

> > > > > > > unanounced due

> > > > > > > > to abuses here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I find this vested interests taking over groups with fake

> > > ID's and a

> > > > > > > team of

> > > > > > > > them too, the way VEDIC-ASTROLOGY of late was mauled by

> JUST 2

> > > > > > > members with

> > > > > > > > such fake ID's and has driven the subject out of the

group,

> > > though

> > > > > > > it was

> > > > > > > > started to throw the most revered members out, by people

> with

> > > > > dubious

> > > > > > > > knowledge in IT targeted Pt Dadkshinamurthy ji, now Pt

> > > arjuni- I was

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > not spared though I said I have no vested interests

with any

> > > > > member as I

> > > > > > > > hardly know anyone, BUT DO recognise the few members who

> have

> > > > > > > contributed

> > > > > > > > richly with their scriptural knowledge that WE DON'T

have ,

> > > deserve

> > > > > > > a lot

> > > > > > > > more respect than any one's express self interest who

may be

> > > > > > > disappointed

> > > > > > > > with what they got from any of them, which the market

itself

> > > will

> > > > > > > decide,

> > > > > > > > why abuse and drive membership out, we need a few

> > > astrologers with

> > > > > > > > scriptural back ground to help the group, thse kind have

> > > been worst

> > > > > > > hit, I

> > > > > > > > am not in such a list of scriptural knowledgeable, but my

> > > > > strentgh is

> > > > > > > > limited to astrology alone, I miss such members who are

> forced

> > > > > to quit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope sanity prevails and all learned members come

back in

> > > all the

> > > > > > > groups

> > > > > > > > that have suffered due to some jealous groups operating

> > > within them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrology alone must bind us, not divide us I hope he is

> > > reading it

> > > > > > > too and

> > > > > > > > comes back

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 8/19/07, rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you quit this group, every thing will be alright

> here. But

> > > > > we all

> > > > > > > > > know that you will never quit because you have vested

> interest

> > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > here. Your own group is almost dead, you have no where

> to go.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RP Singh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > >

<%40><%40>,

> > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Pradeepji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You mentioned " recent abuses involving

> > > > > > > > > > mother " .Who used these abuses and why ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Recently the member who used this ,I

> > > > > > > > > > think was provoked by another abuse, but

> > > > > > > > > > previously the former member was abused

> > > > > > > > > > without provocation. Which one of these

> > > > > > > > > > are you talking of ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But exactly which abuse are you talking

> > > > > > > > > > of - name of person who abused, and

> > > > > > > > > > name of person who was abused?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Which members do you think are

> > > > > > > > > > hiding under fake names and ids,

> > > > > > > > > > and doing what ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why do you think that this List

> > > > > > > > > > is being destroyed ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Who are the members who are doing

> > > > > > > > > > astrology here for free,

> > > > > > > > > > and who are those who have vested

> > > > > > > > > > interests ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Exactly what solution do you

> > > > > > > > > > think should be enforced ,so

> > > > > > > > > > that this list is not destroyed ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%40>,

> > > > > > > > > " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar jis absence from the list ,without

> notice

> > > > > made me

> > > > > > > > > write

> > > > > > > > > > > to him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It was sad to note that ,the elderly gentleman has

> > > > > d

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > the list.His mail regarding this did not reach the

> > > list as his

> > > > > > > > > > > unsubscription request effected before the

information

> > > mail.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The recent exchanges in the list with abuses

invloving

> > > > > mother,bad

> > > > > > > > > > > words etc has become quite disturbing for

many.Members

> > > hiding

> > > > > > > > > under

> > > > > > > > > > > fake names and ids are criticising others for

the same

> > > > > reason!!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The list is being destroyed and is sad.Raoji

left,then

> > > > > shri Finn

> > > > > > > > > > > wandahl was forced to go out.Recently there seems

> to be a

> > > > > vested

> > > > > > > > > > > interest from some members to drive out those

who are

> > > doing

> > > > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > for free.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am copying this mail to chandrashekhar ji as

> well and

> > > > > request

> > > > > > > > > him to

> > > > > > > > > > > reconsider his decision.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prashantkumar

> > > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me

> > > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > > > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street

> > > > > > > > Nandanam Extn,

> > > > > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA

> > > > > > > > MOBILE 9840051861

> > > > > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

The obvious typo in this line made me laugh :-)

 

>>>> I always felt condom the sin, not the sinner <<<

 

========

 

-

pranesh_joshi2003

 

Monday, August 20, 2007 10:51 AM

[JG Re: Chandrashekhar jis Unsubscription - Request to

reconsider-19/8

 

 

All those who think Prashant will get a 3000-word, hilariously emotive

riposte - raise your hand. Mine's the first

 

PJ

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> bHASKAR

> U HAVE GOT ENUF FROM so many members forgt me and they did in the way I

> can't do and what u deserve, it is beneath my dignity to do them,

and they

> have done the right thing WHEN they abuse a notorious, gangster

like u with

> tarun behind in creating topics where just both of u hurl abuses at

everyone

> and want to be defended by the ones who u attack if they counter

attack u, u

> SURELY DESERVE it

>

> FROM WHAT I GAHTER, RAJ, PRATOSH, JAGADISH, sreenadh, girish to name

a few

> did what they had to from what u dished out on them, I know the list is

> bigger

>

> for me u r the only one and U R RIGHT TO WRITE BAKWAS

>

> I NEED no time max 2-3 minutes a astrological reading takes a lot

more TO

> ARRIVE AT and also to make it short to the point it a a few stage

job and

> those who need it can ask me will get it

>

> did u and tarun not try to dig holes into what i tried honestly to write

> assuming he was interested in knowing so wherever people want it i

can and I

> must not only allot time to first read then make it a short one for the

> point itself and also prepare for a possible chain of abuses from ur

gang

> this takes too much time of me

>

> but MAKE NO MISTAKE AFTER JAN NEXT yr I can spare time for all this and

> more. be patient uc an get more than u can chew esp the abuses,

curses u

> hulrded at many which no one else except ur friend Pratosh also does

>

> just 2 rotten apples spoil the astro basket of course ur team is always

> behind u I do all I have to on my own and this group anyway has few

queries

> so it is not my area will slowly reduce my time here as it is FOR U

AND UR

> GANG's bakwas u can enjoy it and I am happy if i don't read the

abuses u get

> for that is what u sow

>

> I always felt condom the sin, not the sinner -that is no abuses by

anyone

>

> but u want me to be selective when u abuse others and if u get back

what u

> did u must know u asked for it

> so u need to face it when u abuses so many do u ask us before hand

to defend

> u no

>

> but ofcourse as most of them happen with the tarun and ur threads u r

> building the stage always for the fights none of the other serious

> astrologers try those low games

>

> THIS MAIL TOOK ME 8 MIN - BIG TIME WASTE ON SUCH A LOW CREATURE

On 8/20/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> >

> > PRASHANT

> >

> > You have timne to write all this bakwaas, but

> > no time to support your predictions with supporting

> > astrological evidence or analysis ever ?

> >

> > I dont expect support from small flies, or mosquitoes,

> > because I am full of strength to defend myself through

> > Gods grace, I just say all that shut up and talk

> > astrology, and if you cannot defend your astrologocical

> > colleafgues, when they are bludgeoned, then at least

> > shut up now.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " astro desk "

> > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > BHASKAR

> > >

> > > U must write to people who write to groups directly and prove it

> > >

> > > and I know u do that

> > >

> > > else why does ONLY UR ID get BHASKAR THE GREAT

> > >

> > > BHASKAR ONLY

> > >

> > > WELCOME BACK

> > >

> > > when u remain silent for a few days with diff agendas in groups

> > WITHA MAIL

> > > to such topic by the route u just said

> > >

> > > u know right now i have no time for this, still u choose to accuse

> > me same

> > > old lines as u have nothing to prove u r free to wrtie to any

> > >

> > > and IF CHANDRASHEKAR LEFT THIS GROUP DUE TO ANYONE i HAD NO IDEA IT

> > WAS u

> > > AGAIN BY UR REACTION now IT IS CONFIRMED IT MUST BE U AND why should

> > anyone

> > > even forget ur capabilities to bellitle people in every group u only

> > attack

> > > others more and if they return some slall precentage u expect

> > support from

> > > others

> > >

> > > U SAID I WILL SUPPORT THOSE WHO DON'T ATTACK OTHERS

> > >

> > > or those who don't defend themselves

> > >

> > > u claim u candefend urself so why u need me or others to back u

> > >

> > > when u choose to repeatedly abuse members in every forum

> > >

> > > I want u to show in which group where this no moderation where this

> > trick of

> > > urs is same

> > >

> > > only in JYOTISHVIDYA U R DECENT, rest same oold spiter, mauling all

> > weaker

> > > members worse cursing members with kidney failures, hospital stay

> > did anyone

> > > else who were affected by ur filth do it say even me? we always gave

> > u a log

> > > rope, but u rarely care for people

> > >

> > > and I have no group like U to have a vested interest

> > >

> > > I have made it know manytimes I have a site that is not working

> > anyone can

> > > test it also, what else u need

> > > by repeatedly spreading false hood ucan't make it truth

> > >

> > > but if u allow fellow astrologers to dicuss astrology properly

it helps

> > >

> > > u praised satyas reading of u

> > >

> > > and a few days later

> > >

> > > wrote a mail calling all u got is rubbish and challanged anyone to

> > predict

> > > about u who will when they know it will also be called rubbish just

> > imagine

> > > if some read ur replies with such a note how it can be, I am sureu

> > will send

> > > tons of curses at them

> > > well time for u to check

> > > ur approach to people all will be fine and peace with u and rest of

> > us too

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > and in all ur mails u have Tarun to keep ur ideas floating as u both

> > chat as

> > > though it is a personal chat roo

> > >

> > > WELL I HAV

> > > On 8/19/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > All good astrologers would leave the Forum,

> > > > where people like you would like to

> > > > take over.You wish to dominate all the astrology

> > > > Forums, and do not wish others to work where you work,

> > > > we all know for what reason,so no use trying to

> > > > play saint.

> > > >

> > > > Personal egos are the main reason why people like

> > > > you always leave no opportunity

> > > > to see that any astrologer who is attacked,

> > > > should be kicked out,and not allowed to perform.

> > > > You never leave any opportunity to see that the astrologer

> > > > is thrown out, unfortunately

> > > > you cannot have success in this action in my case,

> > > > since I am different and protected by the Lord and many.

> > > >

> > > > I am beginning to feel that you are doing this, on all

> > > > Forums, and long term planning is done also

> > > > to establish base of your astrological powers,

> > > > same person,. sending enquiries, same person sending

> > > > replies,and same person sending praise mails of

> > > > success of the predictions given.

> > > >

> > > > You are mistake if you think that moderation is

> > > > inactive here or anywhere else.It is because of

> > > > liberal attitude of the Moderators,that the

> > > > axe has not fallen on you or me.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

<%40><%40>,

> > > > " astro desk "

> > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not aware of this angle till now but I know this is

> > > > understandable and

> > > > > this we have seen happen in JR wehre many good astrologers

left the

> > > > forum

> > > > > like this and this will happen to all forums where moderation is

> > > > inactive,

> > > > > right now VEDIC astrology is in the same boat will die soon too

> > I was

> > > > > surprised to hear people like kn rAO EXISTED HERE AND NOW NOT

> > EVEN HIS

> > > > > CHELAS R HERE what a pity it must be that many groups r dying

> > > > >

> > > > > JR had a big number base and is left with may be 15 20 active

> > > > members and

> > > > > equal number of querents its claim of over 7k must be dead wood.

> > > > again same

> > > > > with VA it can be a few hundreds not thousands

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > we must ensure astrology remains the main focus not personal

egos

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > On 8/19/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashanth ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As you might have noted,Chandrashekhar ji was discussing

360 days

> > > > > > vimshottari,with me and Satyaji,before his unsubscription.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He wrote to me the reasons and it was really sad.I too

told him

> > > > > > clearly that it is not worth a place to be present looking

at the

> > > > > > current style and language being used.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji is at the moment prepared only for personal

> > > > > > communication,and is not interested with the list.This is

> > > > understandable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

<%40>

> > <%40><%40>,

> > > >

> > > > > > " astro desk "

> > > > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, R P Singh, Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it is sad it people who have material to share and

enlighten the

> > > > > > membership

> > > > > > > in the groups are left frustrated at the status of affairs

> > and quit.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > was really disturbing to read even Chandrashekar-ji has left

> > > > > > unanounced due

> > > > > > > to abuses here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I find this vested interests taking over groups with fake

> > ID's and a

> > > > > > team of

> > > > > > > them too, the way VEDIC-ASTROLOGY of late was mauled by

JUST 2

> > > > > > members with

> > > > > > > such fake ID's and has driven the subject out of the group,

> > though

> > > > > > it was

> > > > > > > started to throw the most revered members out, by people

with

> > > > dubious

> > > > > > > knowledge in IT targeted Pt Dadkshinamurthy ji, now Pt

> > arjuni- I was

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > not spared though I said I have no vested interests with any

> > > > member as I

> > > > > > > hardly know anyone, BUT DO recognise the few members who

have

> > > > > > contributed

> > > > > > > richly with their scriptural knowledge that WE DON'T have ,

> > deserve

> > > > > > a lot

> > > > > > > more respect than any one's express self interest who may be

> > > > > > disappointed

> > > > > > > with what they got from any of them, which the market itself

> > will

> > > > > > decide,

> > > > > > > why abuse and drive membership out, we need a few

> > astrologers with

> > > > > > > scriptural back ground to help the group, thse kind have

> > been worst

> > > > > > hit, I

> > > > > > > am not in such a list of scriptural knowledgeable, but my

> > > > strentgh is

> > > > > > > limited to astrology alone, I miss such members who are

forced

> > > > to quit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope sanity prevails and all learned members come back in

> > all the

> > > > > > groups

> > > > > > > that have suffered due to some jealous groups operating

> > within them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrology alone must bind us, not divide us I hope he is

> > reading it

> > > > > > too and

> > > > > > > comes back

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 8/19/07, rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you quit this group, every thing will be alright

here. But

> > > > we all

> > > > > > > > know that you will never quit because you have vested

interest

> > > > to be

> > > > > > > > here. Your own group is almost dead, you have no where

to go.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RP Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40><%40>,

> > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Pradeepji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You mentioned " recent abuses involving

> > > > > > > > > mother " .Who used these abuses and why ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Recently the member who used this ,I

> > > > > > > > > think was provoked by another abuse, but

> > > > > > > > > previously the former member was abused

> > > > > > > > > without provocation. Which one of these

> > > > > > > > > are you talking of ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But exactly which abuse are you talking

> > > > > > > > > of - name of person who abused, and

> > > > > > > > > name of person who was abused?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Which members do you think are

> > > > > > > > > hiding under fake names and ids,

> > > > > > > > > and doing what ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why do you think that this List

> > > > > > > > > is being destroyed ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Who are the members who are doing

> > > > > > > > > astrology here for free,

> > > > > > > > > and who are those who have vested

> > > > > > > > > interests ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Exactly what solution do you

> > > > > > > > > think should be enforced ,so

> > > > > > > > > that this list is not destroyed ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>,

> > > > > > > > " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar jis absence from the list ,without

notice

> > > > made me

> > > > > > > > write

> > > > > > > > > > to him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It was sad to note that ,the elderly gentleman has

> > > > d

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > the list.His mail regarding this did not reach the

> > list as his

> > > > > > > > > > unsubscription request effected before the information

> > mail.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The recent exchanges in the list with abuses invloving

> > > > mother,bad

> > > > > > > > > > words etc has become quite disturbing for many.Members

> > hiding

> > > > > > > > under

> > > > > > > > > > fake names and ids are criticising others for the same

> > > > reason!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The list is being destroyed and is sad.Raoji left,then

> > > > shri Finn

> > > > > > > > > > wandahl was forced to go out.Recently there seems

to be a

> > > > vested

> > > > > > > > > > interest from some members to drive out those who are

> > doing

> > > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > for free.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am copying this mail to chandrashekhar ji as

well and

> > > > request

> > > > > > > > him to

> > > > > > > > > > reconsider his decision.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prashantkumar

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