Symbolic Meaning of Draupadi in the Mahabharata

August 28, 2007

hare ramakrishna,

dear john .

i would like to hear from u more and pls do write all ur

observations when ever time permits u .After all we are all hear to

exchange our views and if possible study from each other .Not to win any

competitions .

all the best to u

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> To All Members:

>

> The vedic story tells that Draupadi had five husbands. I've puzzled

> over this story as to what the message is. It appears to me that

> that the five husbands are referring to the five senses: seeing,

> hearing, smelling, touching, and tasting. Therefore, we can surmise

> that Draupadi represents the fulfillment of desires of the senses.

>

> In jyotish, the depiction of the five senses can be seen in the

> Panchamsha and the Trimshamsa vargas. These vargas were designed to

> distribute the positions of the planets based on the rulership of

> five planets, representing the pancha bhootas.

>

> If we analyze the two vargas from this viewpoint, we can get a better

> understanding of the slokas relating to the trimshamsa positions.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

> PS

>

> There's more to this story. But that's for another day.

>

August 28, 2007

Dear Sunil ji,

This is definately a point for new age astrologers who want to decode

the theory in stories.

Like we say that Budh was borned by unethical relations of Guru's

wife Tara and moon. but the point here comes is ...is it possible ??

can planets do that ???????????

but if we go to decode , we can say that Jupiter planet has 16 moons.

and one meteor may had collide to it and then mercury came into

existance.

the same way Raas Lila of Shri Krishna is the atomic theory in

chemistry , where Krishna is standing in centre and all atoms (gopi )

are revolving around it.

in the same way sun is in centre and all planets moving around it.

But i am waiting for your further mail on Draupadi's part of

Mahabharat.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> To All Members:

>

> The vedic story tells that Draupadi had five husbands. I've

puzzled

> over this story as to what the message is. It appears to me that

> that the five husbands are referring to the five senses: seeing,

> hearing, smelling, touching, and tasting. Therefore, we can

surmise

> that Draupadi represents the fulfillment of desires of the senses.

>

> In jyotish, the depiction of the five senses can be seen in the

> Panchamsha and the Trimshamsa vargas. These vargas were designed

to

> distribute the positions of the planets based on the rulership of

> five planets, representing the pancha bhootas.

>

> If we analyze the two vargas from this viewpoint, we can get a

better

> understanding of the slokas relating to the trimshamsa positions.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

> PS

>

> There's more to this story. But that's for another day.

>

August 28, 2007

Dear John,

I am very pleased see your comment. In fact, I too was thinking

around similar lines.

Here is what I have been thinking:

As you rightly said, the pandavas represent indriyas and

draupadi represents the fulfilment of desires. I have a small

difference here. I see the pandavas as follows:

Karna - Ear

Arjuna - Eye

Bheema - Tongue

Nakula & Sahadeva - Touch and Smell

Dharmaraja - The controller of the sense - The mind

And, the 101 Karuava brothers are the distractors of these

senses. To win over the distractions, the senses have to take

the help of lord Krishna, practice staying away from

distractions (vanavasa), don't let the distractions reach you

(agnatavasa) and in case the distractions eventually reach/find

you - face and and fight them - Mahabharata war.

I need to think further and map the story better. Any

contributions are welcome.

Regards,

Krishna

--- John <jr_esq wrote:

> To All Members:

>

> The vedic story tells that Draupadi had five husbands. I've

> puzzled

> over this story as to what the message is. It appears to me

> that

> that the five husbands are referring to the five senses:

> seeing,

> hearing, smelling, touching, and tasting. Therefore, we can

> surmise

> that Draupadi represents the fulfillment of desires of the

> senses.

>

> In jyotish, the depiction of the five senses can be seen in

> the

> Panchamsha and the Trimshamsa vargas. These vargas were

> designed to

> distribute the positions of the planets based on the rulership

> of

> five planets, representing the pancha bhootas.

>

> If we analyze the two vargas from this viewpoint, we can get a

> better

> understanding of the slokas relating to the trimshamsa

> positions.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

> PS

>

> There's more to this story. But that's for another day.

>

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August 28, 2007

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear John,

>

> I am very pleased see your comment. In fact, I too was thinking

> around similar lines.

>

> Here is what I have been thinking:

>

> As you rightly said, the pandavas represent indriyas and

> draupadi represents the fulfilment of desires. I have a small

> difference here. I see the pandavas as follows:

>

> Karna - Ear

> Arjuna - Eye

> Bheema - Tongue

> Nakula & Sahadeva - Touch and Smell

>

> Dharmaraja - The controller of the sense - The mind

>

> And, the 101 Karuava brothers are the distractors of these

> senses. To win over the distractions, the senses have to take

> the help of lord Krishna, practice staying away from

> distractions (vanavasa), don't let the distractions reach you

> (agnatavasa) and in case the distractions eventually reach/find

> you - face and and fight them - Mahabharata war.

>

> I need to think further and map the story better. Any

> contributions are welcome.

To All Members:

This particular story of Draupadi appears to be saying that it is

natural for the senses to desire fulfillment through natural means

that are available in the phenomenal world, including having a wife

as a companion. However, it is also part of the world that the

fulfillment of desires would not be permanent through the mechanics

of the gunas. For this reason, the story tells that Draupadi was

abducted by a covetous king. Although the covetous king was

apprehended, the Pandava's king let him go to the dismay of the

brothers.

The story singles out Arjuna to be invincible from defeat of the

covetous king. It appears to me that the reason for this was that he

was a special friend of Krishna, symbolizing the divine manifestation

in the affairs of humans on earth. Why has Arjuna become

invincible? Because he listened to Krishna's teachings. As such, he

was able to control his senses, essentially the biggest enemy of all

in human existence.

In other words, our mind can control the power of the senses only

when it is infused with bliss from the absolute or the divine.

Otherwise, it is impossible for the mind alone to control the power

of the senses, signified in the Gita as the five horses driving

Arjuna's chariot.

Next time, we can discuss how all of this is related to the panchamsa

and trimshamsa.

>

August 28, 2007

Dear Friends,

As per My Spiritual Guru-

The 5 Pandavas Symbolised

1)Yudhisthara- Vibratory ether element

OR Akasha tatwa (Vishuddha or cervical

center)

2)Bhima - Vibratory Air or Life-Force

Element OR Vayu tattwa((Anahata or dorsal

Chakra)

3)Arjuna - Vibratory Fire Element OR

Tejas tattwa (Manipur or Lumbar Chakra)

4)Nakula - Vibratory Water Element OR

ap tattwa (Swadishthana or Sacral Chakra)

5)Sahdeva -Vibratory earth Element OR

Kshiti tattwa (MulaDhar or Coccygeal

Chakra)

The Common wife of the 5 Pandavas is

Draupadi,the Life Force in the body that

is coiled or centralised in the spine

and referred to as Kula Kundalini, which

awakens the spiritual powers, in the

spinal centers of the advanced devotee,

ie,produces a son for each of the Pandava

princes in each of the five spinal chakras.

Mans Body is the Kurukshetra.

Krishna is the Guru, or awakened soul

consciousness,or meditation born

intuition.

I have given the above in very short here,and

not mentioned the symbolics from the beginning

of Creation as related to the Mahabharata,that

is from King Shantanu,His wives,and his

descendants, but if anyone is interested I can

put them here.And if anyone is really interested

seriously in the connection of smybolics with

the characters of Mahabharata translated into

real Life, then I can put that in the Form of

5-10 Chapters on the Forum.

Best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear John,

> >

> > I am very pleased see your comment. In fact, I too was thinking

> > around similar lines.

> >

> > Here is what I have been thinking:

> >

> > As you rightly said, the pandavas represent indriyas and

> > draupadi represents the fulfilment of desires. I have a small

> > difference here. I see the pandavas as follows:

> >

> > Karna - Ear

> > Arjuna - Eye

> > Bheema - Tongue

> > Nakula & Sahadeva - Touch and Smell

> >

> > Dharmaraja - The controller of the sense - The mind

> >

> > And, the 101 Karuava brothers are the distractors of these

> > senses. To win over the distractions, the senses have to take

> > the help of lord Krishna, practice staying away from

> > distractions (vanavasa), don't let the distractions reach you

> > (agnatavasa) and in case the distractions eventually reach/find

> > you - face and and fight them - Mahabharata war.

> >

> > I need to think further and map the story better. Any

> > contributions are welcome.

>

> To All Members:

>

> This particular story of Draupadi appears to be saying that it is

> natural for the senses to desire fulfillment through natural means

> that are available in the phenomenal world, including having a wife

> as a companion. However, it is also part of the world that the

> fulfillment of desires would not be permanent through the mechanics

> of the gunas. For this reason, the story tells that Draupadi was

> abducted by a covetous king. Although the covetous king was

> apprehended, the Pandava's king let him go to the dismay of the

> brothers.

>

> The story singles out Arjuna to be invincible from defeat of the

> covetous king. It appears to me that the reason for this was that he

> was a special friend of Krishna, symbolizing the divine manifestation

> in the affairs of humans on earth. Why has Arjuna become

> invincible? Because he listened to Krishna's teachings. As such, he

> was able to control his senses, essentially the biggest enemy of all

> in human existence.

>

> In other words, our mind can control the power of the senses only

> when it is infused with bliss from the absolute or the divine.

> Otherwise, it is impossible for the mind alone to control the power

> of the senses, signified in the Gita as the five horses driving

> Arjuna's chariot.

>

> Next time, we can discuss how all of this is related to the panchamsa

> and trimshamsa.

>

August 28, 2007

Hare rama krishna,

respected bhaskar ji,

it would be very lovely if u can write it ,and i am waiting for it .

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> As per My Spiritual Guru-

>

> The 5 Pandavas Symbolised

>

> 1)Yudhisthara- Vibratory ether element

> OR Akasha tatwa (Vishuddha or cervical

> center)

>

> 2)Bhima - Vibratory Air or Life-Force

> Element OR Vayu tattwa((Anahata or dorsal

> Chakra)

>

> 3)Arjuna - Vibratory Fire Element OR

> Tejas tattwa (Manipur or Lumbar Chakra)

>

> 4)Nakula - Vibratory Water Element OR

> ap tattwa (Swadishthana or Sacral Chakra)

>

> 5)Sahdeva -Vibratory earth Element OR

> Kshiti tattwa (MulaDhar or Coccygeal

> Chakra)

>

> The Common wife of the 5 Pandavas is

> Draupadi,the Life Force in the body that

> is coiled or centralised in the spine

> and referred to as Kula Kundalini, which

> awakens the spiritual powers, in the

> spinal centers of the advanced devotee,

> ie,produces a son for each of the Pandava

> princes in each of the five spinal chakras.

>

> Mans Body is the Kurukshetra.

> Krishna is the Guru, or awakened soul

> consciousness,or meditation born

> intuition.

>

> I have given the above in very short here,and

> not mentioned the symbolics from the beginning

> of Creation as related to the Mahabharata,that

> is from King Shantanu,His wives,and his

> descendants, but if anyone is interested I can

> put them here.And if anyone is really interested

> seriously in the connection of smybolics with

> the characters of Mahabharata translated into

> real Life, then I can put that in the Form of

> 5-10 Chapters on the Forum.

>

> Best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " John " jr_esq@ wrote:

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear John,

> > >

> > > I am very pleased see your comment. In fact, I too was thinking

> > > around similar lines.

> > >

> > > Here is what I have been thinking:

> > >

> > > As you rightly said, the pandavas represent indriyas and

> > > draupadi represents the fulfilment of desires. I have a small

> > > difference here. I see the pandavas as follows:

> > >

> > > Karna - Ear

> > > Arjuna - Eye

> > > Bheema - Tongue

> > > Nakula & Sahadeva - Touch and Smell

> > >

> > > Dharmaraja - The controller of the sense - The mind

> > >

> > > And, the 101 Karuava brothers are the distractors of these

> > > senses. To win over the distractions, the senses have to take

> > > the help of lord Krishna, practice staying away from

> > > distractions (vanavasa), don't let the distractions reach you

> > > (agnatavasa) and in case the distractions eventually reach/find

> > > you - face and and fight them - Mahabharata war.

> > >

> > > I need to think further and map the story better. Any

> > > contributions are welcome.

> >

> > To All Members:

> >

> > This particular story of Draupadi appears to be saying that it is

> > natural for the senses to desire fulfillment through natural means

> > that are available in the phenomenal world, including having a wife

> > as a companion. However, it is also part of the world that the

> > fulfillment of desires would not be permanent through the mechanics

> > of the gunas. For this reason, the story tells that Draupadi was

> > abducted by a covetous king. Although the covetous king was

> > apprehended, the Pandava's king let him go to the dismay of the

> > brothers.

> >

> > The story singles out Arjuna to be invincible from defeat of the

> > covetous king. It appears to me that the reason for this was that he

> > was a special friend of Krishna, symbolizing the divine

manifestation

> > in the affairs of humans on earth. Why has Arjuna become

> > invincible? Because he listened to Krishna's teachings. As such, he

> > was able to control his senses, essentially the biggest enemy of all

> > in human existence.

> >

> > In other words, our mind can control the power of the senses only

> > when it is infused with bliss from the absolute or the divine.

> > Otherwise, it is impossible for the mind alone to control the power

> > of the senses, signified in the Gita as the five horses driving

> > Arjuna's chariot.

> >

> > Next time, we can discuss how all of this is related to the

panchamsa

> > and trimshamsa.

> >

> > >

> >

>

August 29, 2007

Dear Bhaskar,

Please do post the symbolics of the characters in Mahabharata.

Especially, if there is any connection with Astrology.

regards,

raj

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> As per My Spiritual Guru-

>

> The 5 Pandavas Symbolised

>

> 1)Yudhisthara- Vibratory ether element

> OR Akasha tatwa (Vishuddha or cervical

> center)

>

> 2)Bhima - Vibratory Air or Life-Force

> Element OR Vayu tattwa((Anahata or dorsal

> Chakra)

>

> 3)Arjuna - Vibratory Fire Element OR

> Tejas tattwa (Manipur or Lumbar Chakra)

>

> 4)Nakula - Vibratory Water Element OR

> ap tattwa (Swadishthana or Sacral Chakra)

>

> 5)Sahdeva -Vibratory earth Element OR

> Kshiti tattwa (MulaDhar or Coccygeal

> Chakra)

>

> The Common wife of the 5 Pandavas is

> Draupadi,the Life Force in the body that

> is coiled or centralised in the spine

> and referred to as Kula Kundalini, which

> awakens the spiritual powers, in the

> spinal centers of the advanced devotee,

> ie,produces a son for each of the Pandava

> princes in each of the five spinal chakras.

>

> Mans Body is the Kurukshetra.

> Krishna is the Guru, or awakened soul

> consciousness,or meditation born

> intuition.

>

> I have given the above in very short here,and

> not mentioned the symbolics from the beginning

> of Creation as related to the Mahabharata,that

> is from King Shantanu,His wives,and his

> descendants, but if anyone is interested I can

> put them here.And if anyone is really interested

> seriously in the connection of smybolics with

> the characters of Mahabharata translated into

> real Life, then I can put that in the Form of

> 5-10 Chapters on the Forum.

>

> Best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote: