Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Tarunji This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. Please check up the Exaltation points of all th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at those points. You will notice something similarly striking and the planets who come up as results would be the most important planets we know. who make or destroy a chart. Which would also explain the logic behind Exaltation points which you would never find written in any book. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord is - Sani, Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord is - jupiter. Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord is - Saturn Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - Jupiter Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord is - Jupiter. Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord is - Rahu. Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord is Saturn Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are enemies. and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there enemies, and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. Thanks for the information sir. Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > those points. You will notice something similarly > striking and the planets who come up as results > would be the most important planets we know. > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > which you would never find written in any book. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Tarunji, That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to reply you. But all the same I would do it. But first, let me say Your observations are right, and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as Guru) Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in majority as Sub Lords for all these planets at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. Does it click somewhere? I would give explanation for one Planet and leave the rest for all to form their own judgments. (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for Moksha and Ketu is ruled by Ashwinikumar (medicine). At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is karaka for sacrifice or devotion. Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. Till the time the native would not sacrifice his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). Such explanations and relation with its Sublord and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation point of each planet. This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive these. If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are well placed, in anyone's chart, You would find most of the common problems seen all around, missing in this persons Life. Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, Arth, Kama and Moksha. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord is - > Sani, > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord is - > jupiter. > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord is - Saturn > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - Jupiter > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord is - > Jupiter. > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord is - > Rahu. > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord is Saturn > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are enemies. > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there enemies, > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > Thanks for the information sir. > > Warm Regards, > Tarun > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > would be the most important planets we know. > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right and wrong. if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn plays an important role here to take him back on right path. But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin exalations. still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are raising in my mind now. Thanks and Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > Does it click somewhere? > > I would give explanation for one Planet > and leave the rest for all to form their own > judgments. > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > point of each planet. > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > these. > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > find most of the common problems seen all > around, missing in this persons Life. > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord is - > > Sani, > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord is - > > jupiter. > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord is - Saturn > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - Jupiter > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord is - > > Jupiter. > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord is - > > Rahu. > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord is Saturn > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are enemies. > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there enemies, > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Tarunji, Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious unconscious or in semi conscious state. 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone or Shiv Linga. 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural (father in laws place). 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the time of Honeymoon. The exaltation points of these planets too have been given to show the power of punishment or rewards each individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet being in Exalted or debilitated state of being in his chart, or being just normal to make him a common man. This power is given in the measure scale of the degrees. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right and > wrong. > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > exalations. > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are raising > in my mind now. > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > judgments. > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > point of each planet. > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > these. > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > find most of the common problems seen all > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord is - > > > > Sani, > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord is - > > > jupiter. > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord is - > Saturn > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - > Jupiter > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord is - > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord is - > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord is > Saturn > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > enemies. > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > enemies, > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start from 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto 20'0 " . So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu Please suggest on this. Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > or Shiv Linga. > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > (father in laws place). > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > time of Honeymoon. > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > being in Exalted or debilitated state > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > scale of the degrees. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right and > > wrong. > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > exalations. > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are raising > > in my mind now. > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > judgments. > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > these. > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord is - > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord is - > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord is - > > Saturn > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord is - > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord is - > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord is > > Saturn > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > enemies. > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > enemies, > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Tarunji, // Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double edged sword to be used with caution. You know Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant for the best of magicians to be used wisely. //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case.// (As taught by my Gurus) Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native has to do Karma with full justifications with full knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as said in Bhagavad Gita. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start from > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto 20'0 " . > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu > > Please suggest on this. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > (father in laws place). > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > scale of the degrees. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right > and > > > wrong. > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > exalations. > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > raising > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > these. > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord > is - > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord > is - > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord > is - > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord > is - > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord > is - > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord > is > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > > enemies, > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Hare rama krishna . respected bhaskar ji , pranams and namaskar . can we use to see KP and see exact point of exaltation and debilation and sub lord and sub sub lord and can we do any spiritual analysis of a chart . As u said Nishkam karma See sat is debilated in venus nakhsatra and exlated in venus rasi --there shud be some hidden meanings to it sun exalts in ketus star and debilates in rahus nakhsatra ,i dont know exact sub sub lord can u show some light on it , with high regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > // Because those people who have increasing > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > that case.// > > (As taught by my Gurus) > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start from > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto 20'0 " . > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right > > and > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > raising > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord > > is - > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord > > is - > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord > > is - > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord > > is - > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord > > is - > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord > > is > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > > > enemies, > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, So we shall consider the planet in Rahu's sub as it looking like a conjuction with rahu. means saturn in sub of rahu is like conjuctin of saturn with rahu. not particularly for libra but is it applicable to all planets too ?? Please suggest. Warm Regards, Tarun. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > // Because those people who have increasing > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > that case.// > > (As taught by my Gurus) > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start from > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto 20'0 " . > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right > > and > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > raising > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and sublord > > is - > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord > > is - > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord > > is - > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is - > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord > > is - > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its sublord > > is - > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord > > is > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > > > enemies, > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Tarunji, What we were speaking uptil now was the esoteric expression of the Planets at their exaltation points. Translating the principle into action, in a individual , you are right that any planet in Rahus sub would be looked at, as conjunct with Rahu, for Rahus basic nature,quality and characteristics, as well as for what Rahu represents in that particular chart. You have rightly said it is not only for Libra, but for all signs and planets. For example if the 3rd house sublord is Rahu or connected with Rahu, then native would be improper in expression. If 6th house as above, then disease would be complicated, difficult for Doctor to determine. If 7th as above then may cause inter-caste marriage. If 2nd as above then would like bitter and pungent taste foods and also have command over many languages. etcetra. Adding Saturn to above combination would make it more...... ???........(Today is Saturday I will not comment. I have to respect the day Lord.) For instance 7th Sublord connected with both Rahu and Saturn, may definitely give a spouse older than the native, slim , tall and lanky, of other caste and also not of normal behaviours. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > So we shall consider the planet in Rahu's sub as it looking like a > conjuction with rahu. > > means saturn in sub of rahu is like conjuctin of saturn with rahu. > not particularly for libra but is it applicable to all planets too ?? > > Please suggest. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > // Because those people who have increasing > > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > > that case.// > > > > (As taught by my Gurus) > > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start > from > > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto > 20'0 " . > > > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in > terms > > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of > rahu > > > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for > right > > > and > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially > saturn > > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > > raising > > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and > sublord > > > is - > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord > is - > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its > sublord > > > is > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation > are > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of > there > > > > > enemies, > > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Sunilji, Hare RamaKrishna // can we use to see KP and see exact point of exaltation and debilation > and sub lord and sub sub lord // Yes. // and can we do any spiritual analysis of a chart .// Yes, very much. // ee sat is debilated in venus nakhsatra and exlated in venus rasi > --there shud be some hidden meanings to it // Of course there are hidden meanings. That is the way of Maya, what appears to be, is not what appears actually in Real. Sun appears to rise and set, when actually it is always there. // sun exalts in ketus star and debilates in rahus nakhsatra ,i dont know exact sub sub lord // www.loger.com Please go this site. Register and Log in. You will get free downloads of sum Tables here, and also free e magazine every month. This would help you in your studies of KP. regards, Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Hare rama krishna . > > respected bhaskar ji , > > pranams and namaskar . > > can we use to see KP and see exact point of exaltation and debilation > and sub lord and sub sub lord and can we do any spiritual analysis of a > chart . > > As u said Nishkam karma > > See sat is debilated in venus nakhsatra and exlated in venus rasi > --there shud be some hidden meanings to it > > sun exalts in ketus star and debilates in rahus nakhsatra ,i dont > know exact sub sub lord > > can u show some light on it , > > with high regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > // Because those people who have increasing > > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > > that case.// > > > > (As taught by my Gurus) > > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start > from > > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto > 20'0 " . > > > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms > > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu > > > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right > > > and > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > > raising > > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord > > > is - > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is > - > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its > sublord > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord > > > is > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > > > > enemies, > > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, respected bhaskar ji , pranams and namaskar . I will see the site and try it with various methods . India lost as u predicted and i am waiting for ur analysis and method. with lot of respect sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sunilji, > > Hare RamaKrishna > > // can we use to see KP and see exact point of > exaltation and debilation > and sub lord and sub > sub lord // > > Yes. > > // and can we do any spiritual analysis of > a chart .// > > Yes, very much. > > // ee sat is debilated in venus nakhsatra and > exlated in venus rasi > --there shud be some hidden > meanings to it // > > Of course there are hidden meanings. That is the way > of Maya, what appears to be, is not what appears > actually in Real. Sun appears to rise and set, when > actually it is always there. > > // sun exalts in ketus star and debilates in rahus > nakhsatra ,i dont know exact sub sub lord // > > www.loger.com > Please go this site. Register and Log in. You will > get free downloads of sum Tables here, and also free > e magazine every month. This would help you in your > studies of KP. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Hare rama krishna . > > > > respected bhaskar ji , > > > > pranams and namaskar . > > > > can we use to see KP and see exact point of exaltation and > debilation > > and sub lord and sub sub lord and can we do any spiritual analysis of a > > chart . > > > > As u said Nishkam karma > > > > See sat is debilated in venus nakhsatra and exlated in venus rasi > > --there shud be some hidden meanings to it > > > > sun exalts in ketus star and debilates in rahus nakhsatra ,i dont > > know exact sub sub lord > > > > can u show some light on it , > > > > with high regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > // Because those people who have increasing > > > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > > > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > > > > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > > > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > > > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > > > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > > > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > > > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > > > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > > > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > > > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > > > > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > > > that case.// > > > > > > (As taught by my Gurus) > > > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > > > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > > > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > > > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > > > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > > > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > > > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > > > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > > > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > > > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start > > from > > > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto > > 20'0 " . > > > > > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in terms > > > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu > > > > > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for right > > > > and > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially saturn > > > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > > > raising > > > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord is > > - > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its sublord > > > > is > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation are > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of there > > > > > > enemies, > > > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Understood sir, thanks for this great information. I will keep these points in my mind while analysing horoscope , first i will judge my horoscope too, as i have 7th cusp nakshatra lord as Guru and sublord as Rahu. Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > What we were speaking uptil now was the > esoteric expression of the Planets at > their exaltation points. > > Translating the principle into action, in a > individual , you are right that any planet > in Rahus sub would be looked at, as conjunct > with Rahu, for Rahus basic nature,quality and > characteristics, as well as for what Rahu > represents in that particular chart. > > You have rightly said it is not only for > Libra, but for all signs and planets. > > For example if the 3rd house sublord is Rahu > or connected with Rahu, then native would be > improper in expression. > If 6th house as above, then disease would be > complicated, difficult for Doctor to determine. > If 7th as above then may cause inter-caste > marriage. > If 2nd as above then would like bitter and > pungent taste foods and also have command over > many languages. > > etcetra. > > Adding Saturn to above combination would > make it more...... ???........(Today is > Saturday I will not comment. I have to > respect the day Lord.) > > For instance 7th Sublord connected with both > Rahu and Saturn, may definitely give a spouse > older than the native, slim , tall and lanky, > of other caste and also not of normal > behaviours. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > So we shall consider the planet in Rahu's sub as it looking like a > > conjuction with rahu. > > > > means saturn in sub of rahu is like conjuctin of saturn with rahu. > > not particularly for libra but is it applicable to all planets too ?? > > > > Please suggest. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > // Because those people who have increasing > > > strength of saturn in terms of degree till 20 > > > feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of rahu// > > > > > > Lots of opportunities to enjoy material, would > > > open up for the native, due to sub of Rahu, but > > > eventually the power of Saturn if misutilised would > > > also bring in the axe on the neck. It is a double > > > edged sword to be used with caution. You know > > > Rahu can both elevate and also bring down on > > > the road, the native, when it gets power. Rahu > > > and Saturn combined is a deadly potion only meant > > > for the best of magicians to be used wisely. > > > > > > //So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in > > > that case.// > > > > > > (As taught by my Gurus) > > > Saturn is Exalted at 20 Degrees of Libra. > > > At Libra 20 Degrees REahu star is ending and > > > Jupiter star is beginning. Saturn is the karaka > > > for karma and Libra sign is the sign of Justice, > > > and Rahu star is a karaka for materialistic benefit, > > > and Jupiter is a karaka for knowledge. So native > > > has to do Karma with full justifications with full > > > knowledge,without any expectation of materialistic > > > benefit. Then only Karma becomes Nishkama Karma as > > > said in Bhagavad Gita. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > About saturn getting exalted in libra of sub of guru which start > > from > > > > 20 deg libra , but the sub of rahu starts from 6'40 " libra upto > > 20'0 " . > > > > > > > > So how to interpretate the effect of saturn in that case. > > > > Because till 6'40 it is mars and after 6'40 it is rahu. and a big > > > > part of Libra is under Rahu's influence. > > > > > > > > Because those people who have increasing strength of saturn in > > terms > > > > of degree till 20 feels like exalted saturn but it is in sub of > > rahu > > > > > > > > Please suggest on this. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > Exaltation and Debilitation points has to be given > > > > > to every matter, object,animate or inanimate, conscious > > > > > unconscious or in semi conscious state. > > > > > > > > > > 1) The stone finds Exaltation point as a Gemstone > > > > > or Shiv Linga. > > > > > > > > > > 2) A flower gets its Exaltation point as a offering > > > > > to a most revered and worshipped idol of the Lord. > > > > > > > > > > 3) A youth who is newly married or about to be married > > > > > get his exaltation point when he visits his sasural > > > > > (father in laws place). > > > > > > > > > > 4) A marriage reaches its Exaltation point at the > > > > > time of Honeymoon. > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation points of these planets too have been > > > > > given to show the power of punishment or rewards each > > > > > individual deserves in his Life, as per the planet > > > > > being in Exalted or debilitated state > > > > > of being in his chart, or being just normal to make > > > > > him a common man. This power is given in the measure > > > > > scale of the degrees. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes my observation are also the same as for guru and saturn, > > > > > > saturn and guru are the planes which guides the human for > > right > > > > and > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > if man somewhere commit sin , these two planets specially > > saturn > > > > > > plays an important role here to take him back on right path. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this is strange to notice that saturn-jupiter are givin > > > > > > exalations. > > > > > > > > > > > > still manythings are unanswered for me but many questions are > > > > raising > > > > > > in my mind now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was speedy work. I am not yet prepared to > > > > > > > reply you. But all the same I would do it. > > > > > > > But first, let me say Your observations are right, > > > > > > > and also Saturn's SubLord would be treated as > > > > > > > Guru, since at 20 degrees Libra , Rahu ends > > > > > > > and Guru begins. (Rahu as Karma becomes > > > > > > > Nishkama Karma as Guru) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus we have only 2 Planets which are in > > > > > > > majority as Sub Lords for all these planets > > > > > > > at their Exaltation points. Jupiter and Saturn. > > > > > > > Does it click somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give explanation for one Planet > > > > > > > and leave the rest for all to form their own > > > > > > > judgments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (As Taught by one of My Jyotish Gurus) > > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul, as well it > > > > > > > represents Dhanvantari ( Lord of > > > > > > > Medicine) . Sun becomes Exalted > > > > > > > in Ketu Star. Ketu is karaka for > > > > > > > Moksha and Ketu is ruled by > > > > > > > Ashwinikumar (medicine). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At its Exaltation point of Sun, The SubLord > > > > > > > is Saturn as you rightly observed. Saturn is > > > > > > > karaka for sacrifice or devotion. > > > > > > > Sun is the karaka for Soul and Ego. > > > > > > > Till the time the native would not sacrifice > > > > > > > his Ego, he cannot achieve Moksha (Ketu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such explanations and relation with its Sublord > > > > > > > and nakshatra can be given for every Exaltation > > > > > > > point of each planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the power of Logic in our Indian astrology. > > > > > > > There is no co-incidence. Every matter is pre-set > > > > > > > by the Lord Himself. We only have to perceive > > > > > > > these. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If these two Planets Jupiter and Saturn are > > > > > > > well placed, in anyone's chart, You would > > > > > > > find most of the common problems seen all > > > > > > > around, missing in this persons Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately only Jupiter and Saturn are the > > > > > > > main planets in our Life, who rule Dharma, > > > > > > > Arth, Kama and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun's highest exalation degree is 10 deg in Aries and > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's highest exalation is 3 degree in Taurus and > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars' Highest Exalation is at 28 deg capricorn and > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus's Highest Exalation is at 27 deg pisces and sublord > > is - > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury's highest exalation is at 15 deg virgo and > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's highest exalation is at 20 deg libra and its > > sublord > > > > is - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's highest Exalation is at 5 deg Cancer and its > > sublord > > > > is > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes most of the planet which give them highest exalation > > are > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and more if we see, from each sign 3/6/11 lord are of > > there > > > > > > enemies, > > > > > > > > and we take 11th house as very good in terms of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarunji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is specially for you and all KP Lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check up the Exaltation points of all > > > > > > > > > th 7 Planets and note who are the Sub Lords at > > > > > > > > > those points. You will notice something similarly > > > > > > > > > striking and the planets who come up as results > > > > > > > > > would be the most important planets we know. > > > > > > > > > who make or destroy a chart. Which would > > > > > > > > > also explain the logic behind Exaltation points > > > > > > > > > which you would never find written in any book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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