Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Namaste Sri Atma To generalize is to express Tamas. Ego brings authoritarians and Maturity brings fairness. I have expressed my views, let Sri Raj take his call. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/21/07, atma_gnan <atma_gnan wrote: > > Bharatji > > No need to share the moderation task, we are all mature and > intelligent adults here. > > Even the most fairest of persons can evolve into over-zealous > authoritarians when given moderator status. I have witnessed this in > several forums. So lets leave things as they are. > > <%40>, > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > <astrologyhindu wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Raj Rao > > > > Thank you for the same. Now that you are moderating this group, I > guess > > there is no need to carry on with the Hora Shastra group. The need > only > > arose since this group was not being moderated. > > > > Can I suggest that you make more moderators here who are fair and > can share > > this task with you? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > On 8/21/07, indiadirector <raj wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Regret to see that I have to step into clean up the discussions > here. > > > I strongly believe in self moderation, especially in a forum that > has > > > such high intellectual content. > > > > > > I am taking the following steps to start with: > > > > > > a) Posts by all new members will be moderated. > > > b) Any post that is personal, abusive or pejorative would be > deleted > > > and the member informed. This is already being done. However, > > > henceforth, more than one such post will result in immediate > banning > > > of the member from the group. > > > c) Any message that is not Jyotish related will be deleted. > > > > > > I am really sorry for this step but lets see how this goes and we > can > > > always relax the rules. > > > > > > regards, > > > Raj Rao > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Bharatji It was an observation rather than a generalisation. And in the mode of Tamas, there is very little expression/attempt to understand ongoings - but rather more lethargy and mental inactivity. Generalising more aptly falls into the category of Rajas, should you wish to correlate behvioural aspects with the modes of nature. Thanks. , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Atma > > To generalize is to express Tamas. Ego brings authoritarians and Maturity > brings fairness. I have expressed my views, let Sri Raj take his call. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/21/07, atma_gnan <atma_gnan wrote: > > > > Bharatji > > > > No need to share the moderation task, we are all mature and > > intelligent adults here. > > > > Even the most fairest of persons can evolve into over-zealous > > authoritarians when given moderator status. I have witnessed this in > > several forums. So lets leave things as they are. > > > > <% 40>, > > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Raj Rao > > > > > > Thank you for the same. Now that you are moderating this group, I > > guess > > > there is no need to carry on with the Hora Shastra group. The need > > only > > > arose since this group was not being moderated. > > > > > > Can I suggest that you make more moderators here who are fair and > > can share > > > this task with you? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > On 8/21/07, indiadirector <raj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Regret to see that I have to step into clean up the discussions > > here. > > > > I strongly believe in self moderation, especially in a forum that > > has > > > > such high intellectual content. > > > > > > > > I am taking the following steps to start with: > > > > > > > > a) Posts by all new members will be moderated. > > > > b) Any post that is personal, abusive or pejorative would be > > deleted > > > > and the member informed. This is already being done. However, > > > > henceforth, more than one such post will result in immediate > > banning > > > > of the member from the group. > > > > c) Any message that is not Jyotish related will be deleted. > > > > > > > > I am really sorry for this step but lets see how this goes and we > > can > > > > always relax the rules. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Raj Rao > > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Sri bharatji and Sri atmagnaniji, I request you both to please stop this thread here, and not write any further.Both have had their say, and wish you both to respectfully not prolong this for mutual goodness. Shubchintak, Bhaskar. , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Bharatji > > It was an observation rather than a generalisation. And in the mode > of Tamas, there is very little expression/attempt to understand > ongoings - but rather more lethargy and mental inactivity. > > Generalising more aptly falls into the category of Rajas, should you > wish to correlate behvioural aspects with the modes of nature. > > Thanks. > > > , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Atma > > > > To generalize is to express Tamas. Ego brings authoritarians and > Maturity > > brings fairness. I have expressed my views, let Sri Raj take his > call. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > On 8/21/07, atma_gnan <atma_gnan@> wrote: > > > > > > Bharatji > > > > > > No need to share the moderation task, we are all mature and > > > intelligent adults here. > > > > > > Even the most fairest of persons can evolve into over-zealous > > > authoritarians when given moderator status. I have witnessed this > in > > > several forums. So lets leave things as they are. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Raj Rao > > > > > > > > Thank you for the same. Now that you are moderating this group, > I > > > guess > > > > there is no need to carry on with the Hora Shastra group. The > need > > > only > > > > arose since this group was not being moderated. > > > > > > > > Can I suggest that you make more moderators here who are fair > and > > > can share > > > > this task with you? > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > On 8/21/07, indiadirector <raj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Regret to see that I have to step into clean up the > discussions > > > here. > > > > > I strongly believe in self moderation, especially in a forum > that > > > has > > > > > such high intellectual content. > > > > > > > > > > I am taking the following steps to start with: > > > > > > > > > > a) Posts by all new members will be moderated. > > > > > b) Any post that is personal, abusive or pejorative would be > > > deleted > > > > > and the member informed. This is already being done. However, > > > > > henceforth, more than one such post will result in immediate > > > banning > > > > > of the member from the group. > > > > > c) Any message that is not Jyotish related will be deleted. > > > > > > > > > > I am really sorry for this step but lets see how this goes > and we > > > can > > > > > always relax the rules. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Raj Rao > > > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dear Members, As I have always noticed and mentioned regularly that the group was been Moderated always, it was never without a Father, has been now declared by Shri Raj Rao himself today. Those who were keen members, and old ones, have not remembered that twice in the past, when I had altercation with a unruly member before, Sri Rao has entered and given a mild rebuke to both of us. If You notice 3-4 days back too some mails with abuse were also deleted from the List. It was his Grace and liberty given to us, that has been misused. The outsiders we can understand, the fake ids we can understand, if they create disruptions here, but the regular members should stop this habit of making a dig at each other and passing uncalled for remarks. We should concentrate only on astrological mails, and whenever there is a position of no conclusion or arguments turning heated, the thread should be ended with consensus. That way, at least the existing members would remain free from moderation ,while the outsiders who cause disturbances may be taken care of by stricter discipline from the Moderator. Hope we never talk personal to/about the members, which may hurt someone,or give any member the reason to do so, apart from astrological comments. Best wishes on the regained status of the Forum, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Mr. Rao, this is the 1st time I am seeing a message from U as I am new here just a month plus but started posting on 24/7 THE key WORD USED BY A GANG TO ABUSE me as a 24x7 free chart reading astrologer in mails in every forum even here which is surely hurting them, u need not go far behind just this week alone a few are there here. i have no commercial interest than give back to astrology what little I got to the best of my ability. i did a lot of FREE readings when I had time before the construction at home started AND RIGHT NOW HAVE done lesser readings on and off during intervals when at home, and have complimented next generation astrologers taking their share in reading too in JR, anyone reading horoscopes I had complimented them but just one gang alone distracts peace all over the forums and I am sure u would have seen that as well by now I complimented gen next as the same heat lead to many good members, astrologers leaving and I was alone reading charts am happy many new ones like Anup, Astro Nikit, , Amitabh shastty etc took over so my need is lesser now-whcih proves my critics wrong I am not dominating the groups but when others r there I don't mind them also to do read the same cases or new ones on their own or critised anyones readings as the gang does. about gang's role they give a list of options in readings and if they don't match their querents case and they ask cross checking or counter questions the gang starts abusing them instead of clarifying. AND MOVING FURTHER. and this gang also suggested they be allowed to merge their group with this one and take over moderation, I HOPE this is not the case NOW AND U R STILL IN CHARGE OF THE GROUP. but other new members are doing a great job. when I said this also I was abused by the gang whenever time permits I will read charts than go into discussions till Dec this yr at least. AND ANY TECHNICAL DISCUSSION IF I CAN SPARE TIME WILL HELP DO MY PART. A GREAT MOVE so lets hope peace and astrology prevail Best wishes On 8/21/07, indiadirector <raj wrote: > > Dear Members, > Regret to see that I have to step into clean up the discussions here. > I strongly believe in self moderation, especially in a forum that has > such high intellectual content. > > I am taking the following steps to start with: > > a) Posts by all new members will be moderated. > b) Any post that is personal, abusive or pejorative would be deleted > and the member informed. This is already being done. However, > henceforth, more than one such post will result in immediate banning > of the member from the group. > c) Any message that is not Jyotish related will be deleted. > > I am really sorry for this step but lets see how this goes and we can > always relax the rules. > > regards, > Raj Rao > Moderator > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110983/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Hope we never talk personal to/about the members, > which may hurt someone,or give any member the reason > to do so, apart from astrological comments. What you have written will not work and for good health should not work. It will lead to all forms of critique either dying altogether or becoming infirm to a point where the critic would be seen to be unsure. If you or me tomorrow said something astrologically that went wholly against what is generally accepted, it would in normal circumstances get some response resembling " Rubbish! " . Being subjective, it will open a debate *BUT* I could easily mistake that remark to be a personal attack. If someone repetitively comes up with foolish statements, etc., it is natural for you to think of and call him a fool. If someone took away that right from you or me, it is authoritarian, nothing less. It is quite amazing to see the no. of people here who want where they are be 'moderated' by whips. No wonder there are some people (my father is an example) who said that the period of Emergency in India was actually a good time... catch me endorsing that!! PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 // What you have written will not work // It will work with all good people, but with about 4 members here, it would not work, since they have nothing astrological to talk about and only survive and thrive on commenting on what others say,and passing sneers at others. Bhaskar. , " pranesh_joshi2003 " <pranesh_joshi2003 wrote: > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Hope we never talk personal to/about the members, > > which may hurt someone,or give any member the reason > > to do so, apart from astrological comments. > > > What you have written will not work and for good health should not > work. It will lead to all forms of critique either dying altogether or > becoming infirm to a point where the critic would be seen to be > unsure. If you or me tomorrow said something astrologically that went > wholly against what is generally accepted, it would in normal > circumstances get some response resembling " Rubbish! " . Being > subjective, it will open a debate *BUT* I could easily mistake that > remark to be a personal attack. If someone repetitively comes up with > foolish statements, etc., it is natural for you to think of and call > him a fool. If someone took away that right from you or me, it is > authoritarian, nothing less. > > It is quite amazing to see the no. of people here who want where they > are be 'moderated' by whips. No wonder there are some people (my > father is an example) who said that the period of Emergency in India > was actually a good time... catch me endorsing that!! > > PJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > // What you have written will not work // > > It will work with all good people, but with > about 4 members here, it would not work, since > they have nothing astrological to talk about > and only survive and thrive on commenting > on what others say,and passing sneers at others. > > Bhaskar. Your personal comment against 4 members here saved for future reference, thanks. PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear all, We are having lot many mails on self expositions, and under rating of the others in the line of astrology. I request all to please concentrate and give long lectures and essays on astrological factors, and not criticize others or try to push themselves up. One can only come up in Life, due to ones own merit and hardwork, and not by fooling or hoodwinking people, or by stepping over others of his clan, and trying to move forward.. Let us talk astrology and nothing else. Let us not give 24 x 7 predictions in all Forums, which bear no resemblance to truth, but let us give only a few numbers everyday ,which should be substantiated by Logical evidence and analysis. Because this is what Forums are for. Those who say that they have no commercial interest in astrology, evidence can be given, as to having taken Fees from those who were talked of in a deplorable manner, after the money had been pocketed. Therefore let us not behave like saints when we are not. They are also expected not to look too much in simple suggestions made to the Moderator, to bring in more members and increase the strength if few leave, which should not be construed as something sinister. Also you are dealing with a one man army, and not a gang. And no one has time here to take the seat of 2 x 7 astrologers, therefore no need to get scared please. My bread and butter comes from hard work and labour and not by fooling people. I do not solicit any reply from those who live in Bhrama-delusions, and always live in fear, that someone is out to unsurp their seat. I do not think any gang or any member of any gang is interested in the seat occupied by such people. Bhaskar. , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Dear Mr. Rao, > > this is the 1st time I am seeing a message from U as I am new here just a > month plus but started posting on 24/7 THE key WORD USED BY A GANG TO ABUSE > me as a 24x7 free chart reading astrologer in mails in every forum even > here which is surely hurting them, u need not go far behind just this week > alone a few are there here. i have no commercial interest than give back to > astrology what little I got to the best of my ability. > > i did a lot of FREE readings when I had time before the construction at home > started AND RIGHT NOW HAVE done lesser readings on and off during intervals > when at home, and have complimented next generation astrologers taking their > share in reading too in JR, anyone reading horoscopes I had complimented > them but just one gang alone distracts peace all over the forums and I am > sure u would have seen that as well by now > > > I complimented gen next as the same heat lead to many good members, > astrologers leaving and I was alone reading charts am happy many new ones > like Anup, Astro Nikit, , Amitabh shastty etc took over so my > need is lesser now-whcih proves my critics wrong I am not dominating the > groups but when others r there I don't mind them also to do read the same > cases or new ones on their own or critised anyones readings as the gang > does. > > about gang's role > > they give a list of options in readings and if they don't match their > querents case and they ask cross checking or counter questions the gang > starts abusing them instead of clarifying. AND MOVING FURTHER. > > and this gang also suggested they be allowed to merge their group with this > one and take over moderation, I HOPE this is not the case NOW AND U R STILL > IN CHARGE OF THE GROUP. > > but other new members are doing a great job. when I said this also I was > abused by the gang > > whenever time permits I will read charts than go into discussions till Dec > this yr at least. > > AND ANY TECHNICAL DISCUSSION IF I CAN SPARE TIME WILL HELP DO MY PART. > > A GREAT MOVE so lets hope peace and astrology prevail > > Best wishes > > On 8/21/07, indiadirector <raj wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > Regret to see that I have to step into clean up the discussions here. > > I strongly believe in self moderation, especially in a forum that has > > such high intellectual content. > > > > I am taking the following steps to start with: > > > > a) Posts by all new members will be moderated. > > b) Any post that is personal, abusive or pejorative would be deleted > > and the member informed. This is already being done. However, > > henceforth, more than one such post will result in immediate banning > > of the member from the group. > > c) Any message that is not Jyotish related will be deleted. > > > > I am really sorry for this step but lets see how this goes and we can > > always relax the rules. > > > > regards, > > Raj Rao > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 That was not a personal comment. But now it will become so. You are one of those members who never talks astrology but always out to create trouble and disrupt the proceedings by remarking unnecessary statements on others posts, uninvited, I wished your name to be understood, but am sorry I had to mention this. You would be watched from now on for whatever you utter.The other 3 I shall name when they behave your way. Bhaskar. , " pranesh_joshi2003 " <pranesh_joshi2003 wrote: > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > // What you have written will not work // > > > > It will work with all good people, but with > > about 4 members here, it would not work, since > > they have nothing astrological to talk about > > and only survive and thrive on commenting > > on what others say,and passing sneers at others. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Your personal comment against 4 members here saved for future > reference, thanks. > > PJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Friends, Please take your issues off the list. Last warning. regards, raj , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > That was not a personal comment. > But now it will become so. > > You are one of those members who > never talks astrology but always > out to create trouble > and disrupt the > proceedings by remarking unnecessary > statements on others > posts, uninvited, > > I wished your name to be understood, > but am sorry I had to mention this. > > You would be watched from now on for > whatever you utter.The other 3 I shall > name when they behave your way. > > Bhaskar. > > , " pranesh_joshi2003 " > <pranesh_joshi2003@> wrote: > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > // What you have written will not work // > > > > > > It will work with all good people, but with > > > about 4 members here, it would not work, since > > > they have nothing astrological to talk about > > > and only survive and thrive on commenting > > > on what others say,and passing sneers at others. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Your personal comment against 4 members here saved for future > > reference, thanks. > > > > PJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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