[hc] Fwd: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage scientists

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vedic_research_institute , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Dear Dr. Koenraad Elst,

Namaskar!

You are requested to kindly go through (if you have not already gone

through!) my posts to Dr. Anand M. Sharan of HinduCivilization

regarding the lack of knowledge of precession among ancient " Hindu

astronomers " right from the Surya Sidhanta to maybe Bhaskara-II.

Kindly also let me have your views regarding ayanamsha vis-a-vis

precession.

 

As clarified in my posts to Dr.Sharan, my personal view is that all

the sidhantas were talking of a tropical (seasonal) solar year

actually and there was no sayana-nirayana confusion but because of

inaccurate caluclations, the duration of the year given by almost all

the sidhantas is more than even a sidereal year. I am also convinced

of the fact that the " ancient (sidhantic) Hindu astronomers " had

absolutely no knwoledge of any sidereal year because it can be

calculated only after subtracting the time equivalent of the mean

daily solar motion vis-a-vis the precessional rate of 50 " .29 arc

seconds per year these days.

 

The Ayanamsha ghost got hitched to precession most probably after

Ganesha Daivajnya's Grahalaghava (sixteenth century AD)--the most

monstrous astronomical work, which had a pride of place till the

advent of " almighty " Lahiri. Probably, Hindu jyotishis, including

Ganesha Daivajnya, got hoodwinked by the patent lie of Maya the

mlechha that he had obtained all the planetary knowledge directly

from Surya Bhagwan without any intermediaries, and that is what

confused Hindu jyotishis that afer all, Surya Bhagwan could not be

that wrong, and maybe He had " revealed " the details of a sidereal

year to Maya! And that is why ever since that day they have been

searching for that elusive ayanamsha---Lahiri, Raman, Raivata,

Yukteswhara, Fagan, Chopra, Chandra Hari and now even Shakuntala Devi

Ayanamsha---that would satisfy (Maya's) sun-god by reconciling the

two irreconcilables i.e. making the Surya Sidhanta calculated

longitudes equal to the visible phenomena of Mesharamba (Vernal

Equinox) or Uttarayana (Winter Solstice) etc.

With regards,

A K Kaul

vedic_research_institute , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved@> wrote:

>

> hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

> <jyotirved@> wrote:

>

> Dear Raviji,

> Namaskar!

> I have already forwarded my post to vedic_research_institut and am

> expecting KE's comments. I will forward this mail also to that

> forum, so that he expedites his views.

> With regards,

> Avtar

> hinducivilization , " Ravi " <ravi7640@> wrote:

> >

> > Avatarji

> > Since Koenraad Elst is not a member here, suggest you take this

> with him and

> > reproduce what he has to say here. Since he is a great scholar

his

> views

> > would be of interest to us who have been hearing only one side of

> the story

> > till now.

> > Ravi

> > -

> > " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved@>

> > <hinducivilization >

> > Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:36 AM

> > [hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage

> scientists

> >

> >

> > > vedic_research_institute , " Koenraad Elst "

> > > <koenraad.elst@> wrote:

> > >

> > > vedic_research_institute , " Avtar Krishen

> Kaul "

> > > <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> 6. Regarding " Astronomy was then interwoven with astrology and

> > > since

> > >> ancient times Indians have involved the planets (called Grahas)

> > > with

> > >> the determination of human fortunes. The planets Shani, i.e.

> Saturn

> > >> and Mangal i.e. Mars were considered inauspicious " in Excerpt

5,

> > > this

> > >> presumption also is without any basis unless by " ancient

times "

> the

> > >> author means post Budhist era.<

> > >

> > > The planets as predictors of the future are totally absent from

> the

> > > Vedic writers and from Lagadha and Parashara. Moreover, they

> > > definitely

> > > did not have their allotted astrological " character " , i.c.

> > > an " inauspicious " one for Saturn and Mars. This can be seen from

> > > their

> > > names: Saturn neutral: " slow/Shani " , Mars

> > > favourable: " Mangal/auspicious " . The latter is logical for the

red

> > > planet: in the West, red is the alarmist colour ( " red alert! " ,

the

> > > red

> > > traffic light), the colour of blood as the carrier of passion

and

> the

> > > testimony of violence. In India, like in China, red is the

festive

> > > colour, the colour of bridal attire. Logivcally, then, Mars had

> to be

> > > considered as auspicious, and the negative interpretation of

Mars

> is

> > > a

> > > foreign import, viz. from the Chaldean-Hellenistic astrologers.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > KE

> > >

> > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > > Dharmo rakshati rakshitah