Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Deepak, //1. " Ruby " because Sun as lord of lagna in Aries - exalted.// Look at it this way: Sun is enjoying exaltation so does not need strengthening. //2. " Coral " because Mars in own house and having aspect on it's own 4th house.// 9th lord Mars is suffering combustion and would therefore benefit from Red Coral. However we need to consider his effect on Mercury whom he conjuncts. Mars is a temporary enemy of Mercury in your chart. //3. " Emrald " because Mer is lord of 2nd house and 11th house and present in house of Bhagya or Dharma.// Mercury has 2nd (marakasthana) as his moolatrikona, would you really want to strengthen this quality? //4. " Pukhraj " because Jupi is 5th lord and location is 11th hose house of income. And having aspect on it's own house i.e. 5th house.// As 5th lord Jupiter is a good friend to lagna lord Sun his gem should not be harmful. However consideration must be given to his lordship of 8th house. //I feel ketu is also not bad, because Mars is having aspect on it and May/June 2005 when i got my one of the best job- that period was also ketu's period.// You should judge Ketu through his dispositor (Mars) and nakshatra lord (Jupiter) to understand his effects. //Venues is exalted and it is lord of 10th and 3rd house, I cant say if I wear diamond will it help me or not.// 3rd (dusthana) is Venus' moolatrikona. Venus, conjunct 7th lord Saturn, is enjoying exaltation in 8th. As you can see, choosing gems is not as straightforward as it seems. Far better, I believe, is to practice deep meditation on a daily basis...this way (the effect of) many karmas can be mitigated from the level of " being " Mitigated = as in lessened (not erased). Parabdha karma, that portion of sanchita karma that is to be experienced in this life, cannot be erased. Also it's good to keep in mind that deep meditation and/or spiritual practices will surely bear fruit in our future (kriyamana) karma. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " spider man " <man30_delhi <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:19 PM Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree Vic ji Mrs. Wendy, i did study on my horoscope, and i found 1. " Ruby " because Sun as lord of lagna in Aries - exalted. 2. " Coral " because Mars in own house and having aspect on it's own 4th house. 3. " Emrald " because Mer is lord of 2nd house and 11th house and present in house of Bhagya or Dharma. 4. " Pukhraj " because Jupi is 5th lord and location is 11th hose house of income. And having aspect on it's own house i.e. 5th house. HERE I am confused:-- I feel ketu is also not bad, because Mars is having aspect on it and May/June 2005 when i got my one of the best job- that period was also ketu's period. Venues is exalted and it is lord of 10th and 3rd house, I cant say if I wear diamond will it help me or not. some of starwalts sugested me you should wear Rahu's Gomedak gem also. These are my view points, I hope you and other seniors will guide me. rgds deepak sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 PS: //Look at it this way: Sun is enjoying exaltation so does not need strengthening.// I meant to add that we have to also consider the combustion of Mars. ___ Dear Deepak, //1. " Ruby " because Sun as lord of lagna in Aries - exalted.// Look at it this way: Sun is enjoying exaltation so does not need strengthening. //2. " Coral " because Mars in own house and having aspect on it's own 4th house.// 9th lord Mars is suffering combustion and would therefore benefit from Red Coral. However we need to consider his effect on Mercury whom he conjuncts. Mars is a temporary enemy of Mercury in your chart. //3. " Emrald " because Mer is lord of 2nd house and 11th house and present in house of Bhagya or Dharma.// Mercury has 2nd (marakasthana) as his moolatrikona, would you really want to strengthen this quality? //4. " Pukhraj " because Jupi is 5th lord and location is 11th hose house of income. And having aspect on it's own house i.e. 5th house.// As 5th lord Jupiter is a good friend to lagna lord Sun his gem should not be harmful. However consideration must be given to his lordship of 8th house. //I feel ketu is also not bad, because Mars is having aspect on it and May/June 2005 when i got my one of the best job- that period was also ketu's period.// You should judge Ketu through his dispositor (Mars) and nakshatra lord (Jupiter) to understand his effects. //Venues is exalted and it is lord of 10th and 3rd house, I cant say if I wear diamond will it help me or not.// 3rd (dusthana) is Venus' moolatrikona. Venus, conjunct 7th lord Saturn, is enjoying exaltation in 8th. As you can see, choosing gems is not as straightforward as it seems. Far better, I believe, is to practice deep meditation on a daily basis...this way (the effect of) many karmas can be mitigated from the level of " being " Mitigated = as in lessened (not erased). Parabdha karma, that portion of sanchita karma that is to be experienced in this life, cannot be erased. Also it's good to keep in mind that deep meditation and/or spiritual practices will surely bear fruit in our future (kriyamana) karma. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Deepak ji this is my reading of your chart. Kindly keep in mind that i am *not* an astrologer and my know how is shallow. You have a good horoscope. Much better than average. relation between lagna and 9th house. 5th and 11th. Venus (disposited by jupiter) lord of 10th sits in 8th, so probably during his antar dasha in jupiter dasha job got into trouble. should come back as soon as dasha ends around sept 2008. The strong 9th house focus will give you good rise if you pray to god. More you are devoted and away from tamas stuff the better. Pray to Shiv and Vishnu. Ruby and Moonga can be worn. Pokhraj is preferred over panna since now Jup Mahadasha is going on. These 3 gems and deep prayers should improve finances and career. I donot know you, but please check that you donot indulge in things which are " not good " or " evilish " . 9th house power should not be dimished. I hope you get the meaning. Lagna lord exalted in 9th house. What more is needed.??? Smile and work ahead. Om Namah Shivay Rajeev On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Deepak, > > //1. " Ruby " because Sun as lord of lagna in Aries - exalted.// > > Look at it this way: Sun is enjoying exaltation so does not need > strengthening. > > //2. " Coral " because Mars in own house and having aspect on it's own > 4th house.// > > 9th lord Mars is suffering combustion and would therefore benefit from > Red Coral. However we need to consider his effect on Mercury whom he > conjuncts. Mars is a temporary enemy of Mercury in your chart. > > //3. " Emrald " because Mer is lord of 2nd house and 11th house and present > in house of Bhagya or Dharma.// > > Mercury has 2nd (marakasthana) as his moolatrikona, would you really want > to strengthen this quality? > > //4. " Pukhraj " because Jupi is 5th lord and location is 11th hose house > of > income. And having aspect on it's own house i.e. 5th house.// > > As 5th lord Jupiter is a good friend to lagna lord Sun his gem should not > be harmful. However consideration must be given to his lordship of 8th > house. > > //I feel ketu is also not bad, because Mars is having aspect on it and > May/June 2005 when i got my one of the best job- that period was also > ketu's period.// > > You should judge Ketu through his dispositor (Mars) and nakshatra lord > (Jupiter) to understand his effects. > > //Venues is exalted and it is lord of 10th and 3rd house, I cant say if I > wear diamond will it help me or not.// > > 3rd (dusthana) is Venus' moolatrikona. Venus, conjunct 7th lord Saturn, > is enjoying exaltation in 8th. > > As you can see, choosing gems is not as straightforward as it seems. Far > better, I believe, is to practice deep meditation on a daily basis...this > way (the effect of) many karmas can be mitigated from the level of > " being " > > Mitigated = as in lessened (not erased). Parabdha karma, that portion of > sanchita karma that is to be experienced in this life, cannot be erased. > Also it's good to keep in mind that deep meditation and/or spiritual > practices will surely bear fruit in our future (kriyamana) karma. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " spider man " <man30_delhi <man30_delhi%40>> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:19 PM > Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree > Vic ji > > Mrs. Wendy, > > i did study on my horoscope, and i found > > 1. " Ruby " because Sun as lord of lagna in Aries - exalted. > > 2. " Coral " because Mars in own house and having aspect on it's own > 4th house. > > 3. " Emrald " because Mer is lord of 2nd house and 11th house and present > in house of Bhagya or Dharma. > > 4. " Pukhraj " because Jupi is 5th lord and location is 11th hose house of > income. And having aspect on it's own house i.e. 5th house. > > HERE I am confused:-- > > I feel ketu is also not bad, because Mars is having aspect on it and > May/June 2005 when i got my one of the best job- that period was also > ketu's period. > > Venues is exalted and it is lord of 10th and 3rd house, I cant say if I > wear diamond will it help me or not. > > some of starwalts sugested me you should wear Rahu's Gomedak gem also. > > These are my view points, I hope you and other seniors will guide me. > > rgds > > deepak sharma > > > -- Best Regards Rajeev Mundra www.EagleEyeTrade.com 09334010234 / 09430300000 Free Sms Updates http://www.smsgupshup.com/groups/EagleEyeTrade EagleEyeTrade Group http://groups.google.comEagleEyeTrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Rajeev, //Ruby and Moonga can be worn. Pokhraj is preferred over panna since now Jup Mahadasha is going on. These 3 gems and deep prayers should improve finances and career.// I certainly hope you're not suggesting these three gems be worn together? Might I also ask you to PLEASE use English wherever possible i.e; Moonga = Red Coral Pokhraj = Yellow Sapphire Panna = Emerald //I donot know you, but please check that you donot indulge in things which are " not good " or " evilish " . 9th house power should not be dimished. I hope you get the meaning. Lagna lord exalted in 9th house. What more is needed.???// I ask you to think seriously about 5th/9th lord's combustion by lagna lord Sun before recommending Ruby. Sun signifies " Ego " and, no doubt, we've seen enough evidence of strong Ego overpowering some of the significations of 5th (judgement/discretion) and 9th (jyotish/remedies) etc... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:09 PM Re: Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree Vic ji Deepak ji this is my reading of your chart. Kindly keep in mind that i am *not* an astrologer and my know how is shallow. You have a good horoscope. Much better than average. relation between lagna and 9th house. 5th and 11th. Venus (disposited by jupiter) lord of 10th sits in 8th, so probably during his antar dasha in jupiter dasha job got into trouble. should come back as soon as dasha ends around sept 2008. The strong 9th house focus will give you good rise if you pray to god. More you are devoted and away from tamas stuff the better. Pray to Shiv and Vishnu. Ruby and Moonga can be worn. Pokhraj is preferred over panna since now Jup Mahadasha is going on. These 3 gems and deep prayers should improve finances and career. I donot know you, but please check that you donot indulge in things which are " not good " or " evilish " . 9th house power should not be dimished. I hope you get the meaning. Lagna lord exalted in 9th house. What more is needed.??? Smile and work ahead. Om Namah Shivay Rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy It was discussed in this group some days back that gemstones " increases benefic " qualities and also " purifies " the effect of the planet concerned. So Ruby should be helping in overcoming the suns overheating of mars? Also sun is between Saturn on one side and Rahu on another. Ruby couldbe helpful. (i am most willing to hear and learn further on this above example of sun and mars) RedCoral should help as has been pointed out earlier. YellowSapphire should help in keeping the above two ego full planets in check and give more mental peace. In read in some sample kundli of " actors " the association betwene 5th & 10th or 5th and 11th. In deepaks chart, 5th lord sits in 11th. Dramatic and acting skills will be strong. (Pun intended.) Om Namah Shivay Rajeev On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Rajeev, > > //Ruby and Moonga can be worn. > > Pokhraj is preferred over panna since now Jup Mahadasha is going on. > These 3 gems and deep prayers should improve finances and career.// > > I certainly hope you're not suggesting these three gems be worn together? > > Might I also ask you to PLEASE use English wherever possible i.e; > Moonga = Red Coral > Pokhraj = Yellow Sapphire > Panna = Emerald > > //I donot know you, but please check that you donot indulge in things > which > are " not good " or " evilish " . > 9th house power should not be dimished. I hope you get the meaning. > Lagna lord exalted in 9th house. What more is needed.???// > > I ask you to think seriously about 5th/9th lord's combustion by lagna > lord Sun before recommending Ruby. Sun signifies " Ego " and, no doubt, > we've seen enough evidence of strong Ego overpowering some of the > significations of 5th (judgement/discretion) and 9th (jyotish/remedies) > etc... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra <rajeevmundra%40gmail.com>> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:09 PM > Re: Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and > Shree Vic ji > > Deepak ji > > this is my reading of your chart. > Kindly keep in mind that i am *not* an astrologer and my know how is > shallow. > > You have a good horoscope. Much better than average. > relation between lagna and 9th house. > 5th and 11th. > > Venus (disposited by jupiter) lord of 10th sits in 8th, so probably > during > his antar dasha in jupiter dasha job got into trouble. > should come back as soon as dasha ends around sept 2008. > > The strong 9th house focus will give you good rise if you pray to god. > More you are devoted and away from tamas stuff the better. > Pray to Shiv and Vishnu. > > Ruby and Moonga can be worn. > Pokhraj is preferred over panna since now Jup Mahadasha is going on. > > These 3 gems and deep prayers should improve finances and career. > > I donot know you, but please check that you donot indulge in things which > are " not good " or " evilish " . > 9th house power should not be dimished. I hope you get the meaning. > > Lagna lord exalted in 9th house. What more is needed.??? > Smile and work ahead. > > Om Namah Shivay > Rajeev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Rajeev, //It was discussed in this group some days back that gemstones " increases benefic " qualities and also " purifies " the effect of the planet concerned.// There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Mars is combust...burnt by the rays of the Sun...and you want to increase the strength of Sun? By strengthening Sun, Mars is not suddenly going to be un-combust. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:43 PM Re: Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree Vic ji Dear Mrs. Wendy It was discussed in this group some days back that gemstones " increases benefic " qualities and also " purifies " the effect of the planet concerned. So Ruby should be helping in overcoming the suns overheating of mars? Also sun is between Saturn on one side and Rahu on another. Ruby couldbe helpful. (i am most willing to hear and learn further on this above example of sun and mars) RedCoral should help as has been pointed out earlier. YellowSapphire should help in keeping the above two ego full planets in check and give more mental peace. In read in some sample kundli of " actors " the association betwene 5th & 10th or 5th and 11th. In deepaks chart, 5th lord sits in 11th. Dramatic and acting skills will be strong. (Pun intended.) Om Namah Shivay Rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Rajeev, //Also sun is between Saturn on one side and Rahu on another.// Actually all three planets (SU, MA, ME) would be enclosed (kartari or scissors yoga). When a house containing several planets is enclosed by planets on either side (of that house) you can't just single out one planet and ignore the rest. Enclosure by malefics is called papa kartari yoga, enclosure by benefics is called shubha kartari yoga. It is said that (only) the planets can form these scissors yoga's...not the nodes Rahu and Ketu. This (also) points to the fallacy of the much-touted karla-sarpa yoga popular with so many of today's internet astrologers. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:43 PM Re: Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree Vic ji Dear Mrs. Wendy It was discussed in this group some days back that gemstones " increases benefic " qualities and also " purifies " the effect of the planet concerned. So Ruby should be helping in overcoming the suns overheating of mars? Also sun is between Saturn on one side and Rahu on another. Ruby couldbe helpful. (i am most willing to hear and learn further on this above example of sun and mars) RedCoral should help as has been pointed out earlier. YellowSapphire should help in keeping the above two ego full planets in check and give more mental peace. In read in some sample kundli of " actors " the association betwene 5th & 10th or 5th and 11th. In deepaks chart, 5th lord sits in 11th. Dramatic and acting skills will be strong. (Pun intended.) Om Namah Shivay Rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis. I found it particularly important that you put emphasis on the Lordship of the planets under consideration or being strengthened. Yours Vic DiCara http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear All, On Jun 26, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Mars is > combust...burnt by > the rays of the Sun...and you want to increase the strength of Sun? By > strengthening Sun, Mars is not suddenly going to be un-combust. This is a beautiful example of the " see-saw effect " you need to watch out for when strengthening one planet. Even if Mars were merely conjunct or aspected by the sun, this would be a factor - but it is triply so in the case of combustion. Interesting tangental anecdote: In the west, my " birthstone " is ruby (born in late july, thus considered a tropical sun-leo). But Mars is very combust by the Sun for me. I always hated Rubies. Yours Vic DiCara http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 dear vic combustion is when within 8 degee or even for same house? om namah shivay rajeev On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: > Dear All, > > > On Jun 26, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > > > There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Mars is > > combust...burnt by > > the rays of the Sun...and you want to increase the strength of Sun? By > > strengthening Sun, Mars is not suddenly going to be un-combust. > > This is a beautiful example of the " see-saw effect " you need to watch > out for when strengthening one planet. Even if Mars were merely > conjunct or aspected by the sun, this would be a factor - but it is > triply so in the case of combustion. > > Interesting tangental anecdote: In the west, my " birthstone " is ruby > (born in late july, thus considered a tropical sun-leo). But Mars is > very combust by the Sun for me. I always hated Rubies. > > Yours > Vic DiCara > http://www.vedicastrologer.net > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Rajeev, > combustion is when within 8 degee or even for same house? 8 Degrees is a safe assumption, though many give different degree orbs for different planets. The effect of combustion on mercury is not as pronounced. Yours Vic DiCara http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Dear Rajeev, The degree at which a planet is combust differs for each planet. Following are the planetary combustion details as per the Surya Siddhanta. Mars within 17 Degrees Mercury within 12 Degrees (retrograde) 14 degrees (direct). Jupiter within 11 Degrees Venus within 8 Degrees Saturn within 15 Degrees Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:18 PM Re: Re: Which Gem or Gems- Mrs. Wendy ji and Shree Vic ji dear vic combustion is when within 8 degee or even for same house? om namah shivay rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 P.S. Sastri in his textbook of Hindu Astrology gives the degrees as: Mars 17, Mercury 14, Jupiter 11, Venus 10, Saturn 15. Retrograde Mercury is given 12 degrees and retrograde Venus 8 degrees. Dear Rajeev, The degree at which a planet is combust differs for each planet. Following are the planetary combustion details as per the Surya Siddhanta. Mars within 17 Degrees Mercury within 12 Degrees (retrograde) 14 degrees (direct). Jupiter within 11 Degrees Venus within 8 Degrees Saturn within 15 Degrees Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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