Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear Harry, For some strange reason this went to my AntiSpam folder and I've only just picked it up now? You Wrote: ///Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor./// First important distinction: I referred to Jupiter's connection with health/healing due to his lordship of 6th house of health (healing occupations etc)...and not forgetting of course Jupiter's lordship of 9th which is also connected with medicine. Secondly, according to the sages, Sun is, without doubt, a significator for health/health matters etc.. Again, according to the sages, Saturn rules (in general terms) brick laying, pottery, masonry, plumbing and other laborious and uncongenial employment. Of course other elements such as dispositor, star lord, aspects etc will also have a big say. I'm sure you're well aware of this. ///Whenever saturn sits with any planet or aspects any planet makes a person doctor. Satrun with sun or mars makes a surgeon. This I hv observed in as many as over 15 doctors horoscope./// Please do look closely at the chart in question and observe 10th lord Mars, in 10th from Moon, occupying nakshatra of lagnesh Moon whilst aspecting Moon itself in 6th...what does this suggest? ///From the 2nd house we see the basic education & from the 5th house we see advanced education./// Agreed! PS: As this is a discussion group intended for the sharing of knowledge it would be good if you could give some reference in support of your views... I'm sure members, like myself, would appreciate this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, December 07, 2007 7:35 PM [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Wendy I appreciate on ur query & hv listed below the reason for recommending the yellow sapphire gemstone The combustion of Jupiter from Sun is 12.00 degrees. In my practical experience I have observed whenever any planet when it is away from the range of degree of combustion, they always come back to me saying that they are not getting benefitted during the maha dasha/antar dasha of planet when it is away from the range of combustion. But when I asked them to wear the gem stone of the same they start experiencing the results. This has happened with many of my clients whom I see over here. Hence I always recommend to wear the gemstone evethough it is away from the range of combustion. Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor. Jupiter makes a person an MBA or Accounts or management Professional or teacher or astrologer or councellor. Pls read my mail to Sejal carefully. I had asked her specifically whether her husband was doing medicine or MBA as in her husbands horoscope both possibilty is their. He has Saturn with mercury in 2nd house. She replied me saying he is doing medicine. This nobody could make out but just asked a general question that he is doing something technical, but I could make out from his horoscope that he is doing med or mba. Whenever saturn sits with any planet or aspects any planet makes a person doctor. Satrun with sun or mars makes a surgeon. This I hv observed in as many as over 15 doctors horoscope. I always keep doing research on my recommendations and accordingly implement the same. On the site we do not get any feed back except the same people keep on repeating the same thing over and again thus confusing themselves. This is what Sejal has done. Whenever moon is afflicted this always happens. From the 2nd house we see the basic education & from the 5th house we see advanced education. Doctors need not have their planets in 2nd or 5th house. It can be seen in any house. The results of success of profession varies in the house they are placed. For a person who is pursuing higher education like Phd we see from the 9th house. Any other query u have u are always welcome to ask Thanks Haresh(Harry)Nathani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Wendy I do not hv any references to support. Intially when I read the books of Parashar I thought I could become a good astrologer. When whenver I did prediction I found something is missing in me. I was not able to convince my clients. Then I went and learnt from a bonafide Guru & then I realised that what books gives us is just theory. No doubt I still follow Parashar's preaching, but the authors who wrote the books, the questions arrised that did they really understood what Rishi Parashar said or they gave their own interpretations. This toppic very speculative & always find unending debate When I started following what my Guru taught me I found success & accuracy in my predictions. Now one thing I always ask myself that the authors who wrote books on Parashar are they actually successful as bonafide astrologers. Only Parashar's preaching makes one a bonafide astrolger but one should also interpret the same in reality. For this one has to keep on doing research, My Guru still keeps on doing research. He has been teaching & is a succeessful and accepted astrologer for past 20yrs We can only learn when we start having realisation whether our predictions & suggestions are giving the requried results. By sending mails what the books say we cannot convince any one except raise doubts. I would have appreciated if u could have asked the logic or scientific reason behind my suggestions. If u give a right prediction & ur suggested remedies when implemented start giving the required positive results that is where we win peoples goodwill & faith & we keep on getting references. Without goodwill & faith no one can become a successful astrologer. If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone. Open some doctors horoscope & study them. If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions. Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer Cell +91 98672 14103 (Mumbai,India) Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Saturday, 8 December, 2007 3:42:39 AM Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Harry, For some strange reason this went to my AntiSpam folder and I've only just picked it up now? You Wrote: ///Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor./// First important distinction: I referred to Jupiter's connection with health/healing due to his lordship of 6th house of health (healing occupations etc)...and not forgetting of course Jupiter's lordship of 9th which is also connected with medicine. Secondly, according to the sages, Sun is, without doubt, a significator for health/health matters etc.. Again, according to the sages, Saturn rules (in general terms) brick laying, pottery, masonry, plumbing and other laborious and uncongenial employment. Of course other elements such as dispositor, star lord, aspects etc will also have a big say. I'm sure you're well aware of this. ///Whenever saturn sits with any planet or aspects any planet makes a person doctor. Satrun with sun or mars makes a surgeon. This I hv observed in as many as over 15 doctors horoscope.// / Please do look closely at the chart in question and observe 10th lord Mars, in 10th from Moon, occupying nakshatra of lagnesh Moon whilst aspecting Moon itself in 6th...what does this suggest? ///From the 2nd house we see the basic education & from the 5th house we see advanced education.// / Agreed! PS: As this is a discussion group intended for the sharing of knowledge it would be good if you could give some reference in support of your views... I'm sure members, like myself, would appreciate this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com http://groups. / group/jyotish- vidya ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 > <jyotish-vidya> Friday, December 07, 2007 7:35 PM [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Wendy I appreciate on ur query & hv listed below the reason for recommending the yellow sapphire gemstone The combustion of Jupiter from Sun is 12.00 degrees. In my practical experience I have observed whenever any planet when it is away from the range of degree of combustion, they always come back to me saying that they are not getting benefitted during the maha dasha/antar dasha of planet when it is away from the range of combustion. But when I asked them to wear the gem stone of the same they start experiencing the results. This has happened with many of my clients whom I see over here. Hence I always recommend to wear the gemstone evethough it is away from the range of combustion. Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor. Jupiter makes a person an MBA or Accounts or management Professional or teacher or astrologer or councellor. Pls read my mail to Sejal carefully. I had asked her specifically whether her husband was doing medicine or MBA as in her husbands horoscope both possibilty is their. He has Saturn with mercury in 2nd house. She replied me saying he is doing medicine. This nobody could make out but just asked a general question that he is doing something technical, but I could make out from his horoscope that he is doing med or mba. Whenever saturn sits with any planet or aspects any planet makes a person doctor. Satrun with sun or mars makes a surgeon. This I hv observed in as many as over 15 doctors horoscope. I always keep doing research on my recommendations and accordingly implement the same. On the site we do not get any feed back except the same people keep on repeating the same thing over and again thus confusing themselves. This is what Sejal has done. Whenever moon is afflicted this always happens. From the 2nd house we see the basic education & from the 5th house we see advanced education. Doctors need not have their planets in 2nd or 5th house. It can be seen in any house. The results of success of profession varies in the house they are placed. For a person who is pursuing higher education like Phd we see from the 9th house. Any other query u have u are always welcome to ask Thanks Haresh(Harry) Nathani 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Harry, ///I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone./// Actually what you said was: ///Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor/// According to sages (Varahmihira et al), Sun has an acknowledged rulership over medical profession. I'm sure you must know this. There are, of course, many different indicators pointing to a medical career...an association between SU, ME and JU being just one. Not surprising then, in the chart under discussion, to find SU conjunct JU who happens to occupy nakshatra of ME. ///If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates./// Please do bear in mind Harry that this is a discussion group - not a consultation service! Healthy/amicable discussion (debate) fosters greater understanding of this divine science. ///If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions./// Thank you for your offer, I'm sure it was given with the right intention. However, after 20yrs of study/practice and finally teaching through the JyotishVidya forums, there really are very few doubts (if any) that need clarifying :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:41 PM Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Wendy I do not hv any references to support. Intially when I read the books of Parashar I thought I could become a good astrologer. When whenver I did prediction I found something is missing in me. I was not able to convince my clients. Then I went and learnt from a bonafide Guru & then I realised that what books gives us is just theory. No doubt I still follow Parashar's preaching, but the authors who wrote the books, the questions arrised that did they really understood what Rishi Parashar said or they gave their own interpretations. This toppic very speculative & always find unending debate When I started following what my Guru taught me I found success & accuracy in my predictions. Now one thing I always ask myself that the authors who wrote books on Parashar are they actually successful as bonafide astrologers. Only Parashar's preaching makes one a bonafide astrolger but one should also interpret the same in reality. For this one has to keep on doing research, My Guru still keeps on doing research. He has been teaching & is a succeessful and accepted astrologer for past 20yrs We can only learn when we start having realisation whether our predictions & suggestions are giving the requried results. By sending mails what the books say we cannot convince any one except raise doubts. I would have appreciated if u could have asked the logic or scientific reason behind my suggestions. If u give a right prediction & ur suggested remedies when implemented start giving the required positive results that is where we win peoples goodwill & faith & we keep on getting references. Without goodwill & faith no one can become a successful astrologer. If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates. I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone. Open some doctors horoscope & study them. If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions. Haresh(Harry)Nathani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 PS: To avoid any misunderstanding, I should also point out (whilst I'm still at the computer) that, because the qualities of hard work, perseverance, responsibility and selfless service manifest strongly in good doctors, the influence of Saturn will, no doubt, be evident. __ Dear Harry, ///I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone./// Actually what you said was: ///Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor/// According to sages (Varahmihira et al), Sun has an acknowledged rulership over medical profession. I'm sure you must know this. There are, of course, many different indicators pointing to a medical career...an association between SU, ME and JU being just one. Not surprising then, in the chart under discussion, to find SU conjunct JU who happens to occupy nakshatra of ME. ///If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates./// Please do bear in mind Harry that this is a discussion group - not a consultation service! Healthy/amicable discussion (debate) fosters greater understanding of this divine science. ///If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions./// Thank you for your offer, I'm sure it was given with the right intention. However, after 20yrs of study/practice and finally teaching through the JyotishVidya forums, there really are very few doubts (if any) that need clarifying :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:41 PM Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Wendy I do not hv any references to support. Intially when I read the books of Parashar I thought I could become a good astrologer. When whenver I did prediction I found something is missing in me. I was not able to convince my clients. Then I went and learnt from a bonafide Guru & then I realised that what books gives us is just theory. No doubt I still follow Parashar's preaching, but the authors who wrote the books, the questions arrised that did they really understood what Rishi Parashar said or they gave their own interpretations. This toppic very speculative & always find unending debate When I started following what my Guru taught me I found success & accuracy in my predictions. Now one thing I always ask myself that the authors who wrote books on Parashar are they actually successful as bonafide astrologers. Only Parashar's preaching makes one a bonafide astrolger but one should also interpret the same in reality. For this one has to keep on doing research, My Guru still keeps on doing research. He has been teaching & is a succeessful and accepted astrologer for past 20yrs We can only learn when we start having realisation whether our predictions & suggestions are giving the requried results. By sending mails what the books say we cannot convince any one except raise doubts. I would have appreciated if u could have asked the logic or scientific reason behind my suggestions. If u give a right prediction & ur suggested remedies when implemented start giving the required positive results that is where we win peoples goodwill & faith & we keep on getting references. Without goodwill & faith no one can become a successful astrologer. If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates. I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone. Open some doctors horoscope & study them. If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions. Haresh(Harry)Nathani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Of course this applies equally to all professions that demand a certain level of responsibility and hard work... Not just the medical profession! _________ PS: To avoid any misunderstanding, I should also point out (whilst I'm still at the computer) that, because the qualities of hard work, perseverance, responsibility and selfless service manifest strongly in good doctors, the influence of Saturn will, no doubt, be evident. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Dear Wendy, Good to see you back in the forum. I was really mising you a lot! Coming back to the discussion on the charts of doctors, I have the chart of a doctor in which Sun and Mercury are conjunct and Jupiter is disposited by Sun. It may not be difficult find such combinations. I have an interesting example, in the chart of a famouse person and a doctor - Deepak Chopra, all three Jupiter, Sun and Mercury are in the same sign along with Mars (in Libra). Saturn is alone in cancer, and is not interfering with the other planets in Libra either by conjunction or by aspect. It only aspect Moon in Virgo. Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: PS: To avoid any misunderstanding, I should also point out (whilst I'm still at the computer) that, because the qualities of hard work, perseverance, responsibility and selfless service manifest strongly in good doctors, the influence of Saturn will, no doubt, be evident. __ Dear Harry, ///I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone./// Actually what you said was: ///Pls note that Jupiter or sun does not makes one doctor. It is Saturn which makes one doctor/// According to sages (Varahmihira et al), Sun has an acknowledged rulership over medical profession. I'm sure you must know this. There are, of course, many different indicators pointing to a medical career...an association between SU, ME and JU being just one. Not surprising then, in the chart under discussion, to find SU conjunct JU who happens to occupy nakshatra of ME. ///If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates./// Please do bear in mind Harry that this is a discussion group - not a consultation service! Healthy/amicable discussion (debate) fosters greater understanding of this divine science. ///If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions./// Thank you for your offer, I'm sure it was given with the right intention. However, after 20yrs of study/practice and finally teaching through the JyotishVidya forums, there really are very few doubts (if any) that need clarifying :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:41 PM Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house Dear Wendy I do not hv any references to support. Intially when I read the books of Parashar I thought I could become a good astrologer. When whenver I did prediction I found something is missing in me. I was not able to convince my clients. Then I went and learnt from a bonafide Guru & then I realised that what books gives us is just theory. No doubt I still follow Parashar's preaching, but the authors who wrote the books, the questions arrised that did they really understood what Rishi Parashar said or they gave their own interpretations. This toppic very speculative & always find unending debate When I started following what my Guru taught me I found success & accuracy in my predictions. Now one thing I always ask myself that the authors who wrote books on Parashar are they actually successful as bonafide astrologers. Only Parashar's preaching makes one a bonafide astrolger but one should also interpret the same in reality. For this one has to keep on doing research, My Guru still keeps on doing research. He has been teaching & is a succeessful and accepted astrologer for past 20yrs We can only learn when we start having realisation whether our predictions & suggestions are giving the requried results. By sending mails what the books say we cannot convince any one except raise doubts. I would have appreciated if u could have asked the logic or scientific reason behind my suggestions. If u give a right prediction & ur suggested remedies when implemented start giving the required positive results that is where we win peoples goodwill & faith & we keep on getting references. Without goodwill & faith no one can become a successful astrologer. If we make mistakes we should be the first people to accept the same & mend ourselves rather having debates. I once again repeat Jupiter with saturn makes a dr. & not jupiter alone. Open some doctors horoscope & study them. If u have doubts always come back to me I can give the required predictions. Haresh(Harry)Nathani Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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