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Dear Su,

 

I am giving my reading based on 24Cp02 lagna.

 

This is definitely a very rare chart for the following reasons:

 

- Moon is in Gandantha not only in Rasi, in Navavamsha as well!

- Though Moon is a strong vargottama, it does not help as Moon

is in Gandantha

- Moon is in the 8th in Navamsha

- Moon is afflicted by Sani in Navamsa

 

There is no doubt this is an alpayu case.

 

The critical period is Venus-Mercury period, which has just

started now. I don't think she will survive this period.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- v reality <reality_v wrote:

 

> p.s

>

> What got me looking into about her life span is that:

>

> 1 I had read that those born in the juncture of Jala and Agni

> rasis hve

> problematic lives and particularly for the Pi juncture there

> would be a

> short life span (tho I'm not sure what the exact degree should

> be to qualify

> for that). But rasi is now Mesh.

>

> 2 She has an extremely short life line on her palm.

>

> 3 Apparently some astrologer whom her mum had consulted on

> her behalf when

> she was young had told her that she had a short life span and

> would 'drop

> dead suddenly' betn 25-30 or so.

>

> Su

>

>

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

> >jyotish-vidya

> >jyotish-vidya

> > Re: sun and Saturn exalted

> >Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:08:00 -0000

> >

> >Dear Su,

> >

> >Pl.check the Lagna.

> >I am getting Aquarius 01.52.15

> >(Lat 01.20N Long 103.50E, TZ +7.30)

> >I use KP ayanasmha. Even if You use Lahiris,

> >there would be only 6 minutes of difference,

> >but degrees would remain same.

> >Now the whole equation would change.

> >

> >But in any case, whatever be the Lagna,

> >The lagna Lord is Saturn itself, whether

> >Capricorn and Aquarius, it also is natural

> >Karaka for Longevity, so in both cases ,

> >the strength for longevity is there.

> >Jupiter,Mars and Sun, all strong.

> >

> >Moon is a potential problem, but childhood

> >is over, so balarishta yoga is not to be seen.

> >

> >I do not feel there is problem for longevity.

> >Ravi MD currently, followed by Moon and

> >Mars, and also Rahu, do not show any inherent

> >danger.

> >

> >But first you may confirm the ascendant,

> >then we will talk about the current

> >periods.

> >

> >regards,

> >Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >jyotish-vidya , " v reality "

> <reality_v wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar

> > > thank you for the reply. Most appreciated.

> > >

> > > the birth data : 30.4.1984

> > > 1.55 Am, Singapore.

> > >

> > > In Navamsha (at least in my version - navamsha lagnas seem

> slippery)

> >Su is

> > > ruling in Asc. Simha, and Sa is with moon in Pi. Saturn

> however is

> >Retro.

> > >

> > > Nakshatra is Revati 4th pada. I read somewhere that those

> born in that

> > > particular rasi sandhi (betn jala and agni) have short

> life spans.

> >Both Sa

> > > and Sun are in Kendras, but with Sa being retro and Sun

> being lord

> >of 8th i

> > > wondered as to life span of this person.

> > >

> > > She is currently studying for a degree in relation to the

> medical

> >field, not

> > > medicine itself but speech pathology. Domestic situation:

> belongs to

> >a happy

> > > family and is curiously loved by all and sundry.

> > >

> > > thank you

> > > Su

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

> > > >jyotish-vidya

> > > >jyotish-vidya

> > > > Re: sun and Saturn exalted

> > > >Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:05:44 -0000

> > > >

> > > >First the individual results of exalted Sun in

> > > >4th may be checked,without reference to any

> > > >aspects on these,

> > > >then exalted Saturn in 10th, may be checked,

> > > >then just try reversing the results for both these

> > > >departments, Domestic and career,respectively,

> > > >and observe whether this fits with the natives life

> > > >in actual.

> > > >

> > > >Check the Navamsha position of these planets too,

> > > >whether they mantain and retain good positions,

> > > >or else loose them.

> > > >

> > > >You should always try to put genuine queries

> > > >with birth data to support the query, then it makes

> > > >easier replying.

> > > >

> > > >regards,

> > > >Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >jyotish-vidya , " v reality "

> <reality_v@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members

> > > > >

> > > > > could someone kindly advise on the effects when two

> enemy

> >planets are

> > > > > exalted and aspecting each other. For example for Cp

> lagna when

> > > >both Sun

> > > > > and Saturn are exalted.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > Su

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Bhaskar, Krishna and Su,

 

Regarding Time Zone:

Singapore's TZ is +8:00 (same as Perth).

 

Regarding Gandantha Moon:

If I'm not mistaken this threatens infant mortality, and since the native

has reached adulthood we could assume this danger to have passed...possibly

due to the presence of Long-Life (Pumayu) Yogas i.e:

1) 8th lord exalted in Kendra, associated with benefics.

2) 12th lord Jupiter in 12th

 

Long life (religiousness etc) is also indicated if the lord of Navamsha

holding 6th/9th lord is conjunct Sun...

 

Note: Lagna/2nd lord Saturn, karaka for 8th/12th (houses of death), and 8th

lord Sun, karaka for lagna, are enjoying exaltation in kendra's...their

mutual aspect is said to strengthen the qualities of integrity,

responsibility, spirituality etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, July 02, 2007 8:04 PM

Re: sun and Saturn exalted -p.s

 

 

Dear Su,

 

I am still keeping my fingers crossed about the TZ,

because I did not speak with the maker of the Astrocamp

software, but just with a staff member,so for want

of better info, have to accept + 8.00 as the right TZ.

But this is a matter of contemplation, since all of the

country cannot have actually the same Time zone,

from the farthest west to the farthest East.

 

I would keep this matter subjudice till I am able

work personally on the Map of Malaysia, and satisfy

myself,also for the longevity factor, somehow, am

not able to believe that she is having less of same.

 

I am myself a Palmist and studying medical palmistry

currently. The Line which we consider as the Life line,

does not show longevity all the times, in fact it is

known as the " Vitality Line " . My own wife and her 2

real sisters, have a small life line identical in all

the 3 palms, showing longevity till 25 years only,

if we accept the normal dictums of age measurement,

but all the 3 sisters have crossed 40 + years of age

and, enjoying breath.

 

In this chart, the Lagna Lord is strong, the 8th lord

is strong,Lagna,though connected to badhaka sthana, still

does not confirm Short age. I would not confirm this

so easily without going in some deep study.

 

I may come in with more inputs ,later on, may not be in

conformity with the comments of the experts, but

sometimes simple Simon may also be able to make the

pie. Lets see.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, July 02, 2007 11:06 AM

RE: Re: sun and Saturn exalted -p.s

 

 

Dear Su,

 

I am giving my reading based on 24Cp02 lagna.

 

This is definitely a very rare chart for the following reasons:

 

- Moon is in Gandantha not only in Rasi, in Navavamsha as well!

- Though Moon is a strong vargottama, it does not help as Moon

is in Gandantha

- Moon is in the 8th in Navamsha

- Moon is afflicted by Sani in Navamsa

 

There is no doubt this is an alpayu case.

 

The critical period is Venus-Mercury period, which has just

started now. I don't think she will survive this period.

 

Regards,

Krishna

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Dear Su,

 

Apologies for delay...unfortunately my time for the list is rather limited

at the moment.

 

//The above certainly describes her. Theres no " ucchabhanga " then.//

 

It's necessary (always) to think things through carefully before applying

any dictum. Consider who is aspecting who and what is their relationship. In

this instance SA/SU, though natural friends, are temporarily neutral; not

harmful, not especially helpful...indifferent we could say.

Both represent the native herself; Saturn as lagna lord and Sun as karaka

for lagna. Sun owns 8th, no doubt, but we need to remember the dictum that

8th lordship of Sun does not become evil...especially in this instance where

Sun, conjunct 9th/10th lords, is aspected by Jupiter.

 

In my opinion, this mutual aspect between exalted lagnesh Saturn and exalted

Sun gives rise to an exalted nature. No doubt the life, like most, is not

free from difficulties with Mars, Mercury and Saturn all in retrograde

motion whilst Mercury is combust.

 

Unfortunately I have to leave this here for now...hopefully I may have more

time to spare tomorrow.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

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" v reality " <reality_v

<jyotish-vidya >

Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:02 AM

Re: Re: sun and Saturn exalted -p.s

 

 

Salutations Wendyji ! There you are :)

 

thank you for shedding more light on this matter.

 

[>Note: Lagna/2nd lord Saturn, karaka for 8th/12th (houses of death), and

8th

>lord Sun, karaka for lagna, are enjoying exaltation in kendra's...their

>mutual aspect is said to strengthen the qualities of integrity,

>responsibility, spirituality etc..]

 

The above certainly describes her. Theres no " ucchabhanga " then.

 

Warm Regards

Su

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