Kaarako Bhava Naasaya.... Bhavaartha Ratnaakara bearing on 12th house

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandey ji,

 

Did the source you quote mention/specify which category of karaka was

referred to in this rule?

 

It is important to know, please believe me.

 

RR

 

vedic astrology , Vinod kumar pandey

<vpandey15 wrote:

>

> Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

>

> In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will be

fortunate

> in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

house from

> Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

>

> Thanks Vinod

 

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Pandey:

 

Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed a lot

towards popularising ancient classics to English educated public by

his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of printer's

devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong ideas), his

books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read the

dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need for

confirmation of that rule at all!

 

I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In the

example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will improve

9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas whose

lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a Dhanus

lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the 9th

house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness to the

native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be a very

famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may grow

up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings with the

father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general view I

have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to be seen

like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord, aspects on the

bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the prospects of

a bhava in a horoscope.

 

In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from ascendant

prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house lord of

that bhava.

 

This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing the

prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a decisive

factor.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , Vinod kumar pandey

<vpandey15 wrote:

>

> Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

>

> In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will be

fortunate

> in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

house from

> Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

>

> Thanks Vinod

 

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned houses.

This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due care.

Let us take two examples,

1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will promote

the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th house.

Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but may not be

helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not harm.

2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava nashyo.

It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in what manner,

it will promote the signification of these houses.

I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to be careful in its

application because same planet acts under many influences simulteneously.

Regards,

G.K.GOEL

 

 

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote:

Dear Shri. Pandey:

 

Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed a lot

towards popularising ancient classics to English educated public by

his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of printer's

devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong ideas), his

books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read the

dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need for

confirmation of that rule at all!

 

I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In the

example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will improve

9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas whose

lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a Dhanus

lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the 9th

house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness to the

native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be a very

famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may grow

up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings with the

father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general view I

have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to be seen

like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord, aspects on the

bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the prospects of

a bhava in a horoscope.

 

In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from ascendant

prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house lord of

that bhava.

 

This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing the

prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a decisive

factor.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , Vinod kumar pandey

<vpandey15 wrote:

>

> Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

>

> In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will be

fortunate

> in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

house from

> Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

>

> Thanks Vinod

 

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example to

illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in two,Rahu in the

third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the eleventh and

lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and Moons bhukthi

was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost his sight and

became blind.

 

What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon is the lord

of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and an enemy of

Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic aspects

Rahu.?or even Moon.

 

Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is debilitated.

 

Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of Mercury.Moon is the

Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam being

himself the second lord from himself.?

Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both the

eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in a " Jalatatwa

Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

 

Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the reason that

" Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

Regards,Jagannathan.

 

 

On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned houses.

> This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due care.

> Let us take two examples,

> 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will promote

> the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th house.

> Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but may not be

> helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not harm.

> 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava nashyo.

> It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in what

> manner,

> it will promote the signification of these houses.

> I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to be careful in

> its application because same planet acts under many influences

> simulteneously.

> Regards,

> G.K.GOEL

>

>

> dakshinastrologer

<dakshinastrologer<dakshinastrologer%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> Dear Shri. Pandey:

>

> Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed a lot

> towards popularising ancient classics to English educated public by

> his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of printer's

> devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong ideas), his

> books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read the

> dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need for

> confirmation of that rule at all!

>

> I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In the

> example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will improve

> 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas whose

> lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a Dhanus

> lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the 9th

> house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness to the

> native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be a very

> famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may grow

> up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings with the

> father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general view I

> have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to be seen

> like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord, aspects on the

> bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the prospects of

> a bhava in a horoscope.

>

> In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from ascendant

> prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house lord of

> that bhava.

>

> This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing the

> prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a decisive

> factor.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> Vinod kumar pandey

> <vpandey15 wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> >

> > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will be

> fortunate

> > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

> house from

> > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

> fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> >

> > Thanks Vinod

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello,

What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries acedent)

and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the 5th

house).

 

What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

juptiers MD

 

Regards

Amit

 

 

vedic astrology , " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

<jagannathankr wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example to

> illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in two,Rahu

in the

> third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the eleventh

and

> lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and Moons

bhukthi

> was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost his

sight and

> became blind.

>

> What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon is

the lord

> of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and an

enemy of

> Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

aspects

> Rahu.?or even Moon.

>

> Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

debilitated.

>

> Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

Mercury.Moon is the

> Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

being

> himself the second lord from himself.?

> Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both the

> eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

a " Jalatatwa

> Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

>

> Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the reason

that

> " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> Regards,Jagannathan.

>

>

> On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned houses.

> > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due care.

> > Let us take two examples,

> > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

promote

> > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

house.

> > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but may

not be

> > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not harm.

> > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava nashyo.

> > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

what

> > manner,

> > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to be

careful in

> > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > simulteneously.

> > Regards,

> > G.K.GOEL

> >

> >

> > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer<dakshinastrologer%

40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> >

> > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed a lot

> > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated public

by

> > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of printer's

> > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong ideas),

his

> > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read the

> > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need for

> > confirmation of that rule at all!

> >

> > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In the

> > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

improve

> > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

whose

> > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a Dhanus

> > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the 9th

> > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness to

the

> > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be a

very

> > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

grow

> > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings with

the

> > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general view I

> > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to be

seen

> > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord, aspects on

the

> > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

prospects of

> > a bhava in a horoscope.

> >

> > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from ascendant

> > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house lord of

> > that bhava.

> >

> > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing the

> > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

decisive

> > factor.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40>,

> > Vinod kumar pandey

> > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > >

> > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will

be

> > fortunate

> > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

> > house from

> > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

> > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > >

> > > Thanks Vinod

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

kindly furnish full details of birth data.

regards,

jagannathan.

 

 

On 11 Apr 2007 11:00:34 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

>

> Hello,

> What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries acedent)

> and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the 5th

> house).

>

> What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

> juptiers MD

>

> Regards

> Amit

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> <jagannathankr wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example to

> > illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> > Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in two,Rahu

> in the

> > third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the eleventh

> and

> > lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and Moons

> bhukthi

> > was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost his

> sight and

> > became blind.

> >

> > What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon is

> the lord

> > of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and an

> enemy of

> > Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

> aspects

> > Rahu.?or even Moon.

> >

> > Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

> debilitated.

> >

> > Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

> Mercury.Moon is the

> > Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

> being

> > himself the second lord from himself.?

> > Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both the

> > eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

> a " Jalatatwa

> > Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

> >

> > Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the reason

> that

> > " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

> Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> > Regards,Jagannathan.

> >

> >

> > On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned houses.

> > > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due care.

> > > Let us take two examples,

> > > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

> promote

> > > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

> house.

> > > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but may

> not be

> > > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not harm.

> > > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava nashyo.

> > > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

> what

> > > manner,

> > > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to be

> careful in

> > > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > > simulteneously.

> > > Regards,

> > > G.K.GOEL

> > >

> > >

> > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer<dakshinastrologer%

> 40.co.in>>

> > > wrote:

> > > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> > >

> > > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed a lot

> > > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated public

> by

> > > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of printer's

> > > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong ideas),

> his

> > > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read the

> > > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need for

> > > confirmation of that rule at all!

> > >

> > > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In the

> > > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

> improve

> > > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

> whose

> > > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a Dhanus

> > > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the 9th

> > > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness to

> the

> > > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be a

> very

> > > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

> grow

> > > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings with

> the

> > > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general view I

> > > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to be

> seen

> > > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord, aspects on

> the

> > > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

> prospects of

> > > a bhava in a horoscope.

> > >

> > > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from ascendant

> > > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house lord of

> > > that bhava.

> > >

> > > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing the

> > > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

> decisive

> > > factor.

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > --- In

vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40><vedic-astrolo\

gy%

> 40>,

> > > Vinod kumar pandey

> > > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > > >

> > > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person will

> be

> > > fortunate

> > > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in 12th

> > > house from

> > > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will be

> > > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Vinod

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> Answers

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagannathaji,

 

Aug 6 1980

12:04 am

mumbai

Lagana is aries.

 

Regards

 

 

vedic astrology , " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

<jagannathankr wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> kindly furnish full details of birth data.

> regards,

> jagannathan.

>

>

> On 11 Apr 2007 11:00:34 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> > What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries

acedent)

> > and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the

5th

> > house).

> >

> > What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

> > juptiers MD

> >

> > Regards

> > Amit

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40>,

> > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > > Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example

to

> > > illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> > > Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in

two,Rahu

> > in the

> > > third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the

eleventh

> > and

> > > lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and

Moons

> > bhukthi

> > > was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost

his

> > sight and

> > > became blind.

> > >

> > > What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon

is

> > the lord

> > > of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and

an

> > enemy of

> > > Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

> > aspects

> > > Rahu.?or even Moon.

> > >

> > > Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

> > debilitated.

> > >

> > > Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

> > Mercury.Moon is the

> > > Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

> > being

> > > himself the second lord from himself.?

> > > Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both

the

> > > eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

> > a " Jalatatwa

> > > Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

> > >

> > > Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the

reason

> > that

> > > " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

> > Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> > > Regards,Jagannathan.

> > >

> > >

> > > On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > > > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned

houses.

> > > > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due

care.

> > > > Let us take two examples,

> > > > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

> > promote

> > > > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

> > house.

> > > > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but

may

> > not be

> > > > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not

harm.

> > > > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava

nashyo.

> > > > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

> > what

> > > > manner,

> > > > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > > > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to

be

> > careful in

> > > > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > > > simulteneously.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@<dakshinastrologer%

> > 40.co.in>>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> > > >

> > > > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > > > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed

a lot

> > > > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated

public

> > by

> > > > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of

printer's

> > > > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong

ideas),

> > his

> > > > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read

the

> > > > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need

for

> > > > confirmation of that rule at all!

> > > >

> > > > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In

the

> > > > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

> > improve

> > > > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

> > whose

> > > > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a

Dhanus

> > > > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > > > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the

9th

> > > > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness

to

> > the

> > > > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be

a

> > very

> > > > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

> > grow

> > > > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings

with

> > the

> > > > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general

view I

> > > > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to

be

> > seen

> > > > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord,

aspects on

> > the

> > > > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

> > prospects of

> > > > a bhava in a horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from

ascendant

> > > > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house

lord of

> > > > that bhava.

> > > >

> > > > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing

the

> > > > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

> > decisive

> > > > factor.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40><vedic astrology%

> > 40>,

> > > > Vinod kumar pandey

> > > > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person

will

> > be

> > > > fortunate

> > > > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in

12th

> > > > house from

> > > > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will

be

> > > > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Vinod

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > Answers

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

Ascendent is Aries,Moon in two,Venus in three,Mer,Sun and Rah in

four,Jupiter in five,Saturn and Mars in six,and Ketu in ten.

 

Jupiters Dasa runs from 7-8-2008 to 7-8-2024.At present the native is

running Rahu Mahar Dasa and Moon bhukthi from 17-1-2006 to 20-7-2007.

 

Jupiter is the Karaka for " Putra Yogam " .The Putra who can save the parent

from " Punnama Narakam " .

Can there be a nuetral state of existence between Narakam and Swargam?.

" Karako Bhava Nasasya " simply implies that ,in my humble opinion, Karaka

becomes defunct.?

In the chart under consideration,Jupiter being a male planet is situated in

the fifth which is a male sign.both from Lagnam and Mesham.Inspite of the

facts being such Jupiter may cease to yield results pertaining to the birth

of a male child.

The combination of Sun Rahu and Mercury is one of a group of malefic

planets.Sun has lost his bright rays.?

But the " Panchamadhipathy " Sun is with Mercury who is also a

" Panchamadhipathy " from Chandra Lagnam.?

 

Tenth house also gives incling about child birth.Saturn is in six.Ketu is in

Makharam.So child birth will be delayed.Therefore during jupiters dasa

child birth may become a cause of worry.Suitable " Shanthi Pariharas " have

to be done.

 

As the fifth house from Jupiters is his own house possibly one male child

may be born.Another reason is that Moon is exalted.His, running, bhukthi may

be fruitful.2004 was unfavourable for child birth.2008 is

favourable.2005was not good for child birth.

 

Saturn transits to Leo soon.Therefore you have to light a lamp of Mustard

oil to Him.on every Saturday.This " Parihara " may promote the birth of a male

child.

I welcome you for further discussion.

Regards,

jagannathan.

 

 

 

 

On 11 Apr 2007 11:41:45 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

>

> Dear Jagannathaji,

>

> Aug 6 1980

> 12:04 am

> mumbai

> Lagana is aries.

>

> Regards

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> <jagannathankr wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > kindly furnish full details of birth data.

> > regards,

> > jagannathan.

> >

> >

> > On 11 Apr 2007 11:00:34 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries

> acedent)

> > > and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the

> 5th

> > > house).

> > >

> > > What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

> > > juptiers MD

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Amit

> > >

> > > --- In

vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40><vedic-astrolo\

gy%

> 40 >,

> > > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example

> to

> > > > illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> > > > Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in

> two,Rahu

> > > in the

> > > > third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the

> eleventh

> > > and

> > > > lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and

> Moons

> > > bhukthi

> > > > was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost

> his

> > > sight and

> > > > became blind.

> > > >

> > > > What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon

> is

> > > the lord

> > > > of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and

> an

> > > enemy of

> > > > Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

> > > aspects

> > > > Rahu.?or even Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

> > > debilitated.

> > > >

> > > > Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

> > > Mercury.Moon is the

> > > > Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

> > > being

> > > > himself the second lord from himself.?

> > > > Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both

> the

> > > > eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

> > > a " Jalatatwa

> > > > Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

> > > >

> > > > Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the

> reason

> > > that

> > > > " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

> > > Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> > > > Regards,Jagannathan.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > > > > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned

> houses.

> > > > > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due

> care.

> > > > > Let us take two examples,

> > > > > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

> > > promote

> > > > > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

> > > house.

> > > > > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but

> may

> > > not be

> > > > > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not

> harm.

> > > > > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava

> nashyo.

> > > > > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

> > > what

> > > > > manner,

> > > > > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > > > > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to

> be

> > > careful in

> > > > > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > > > > simulteneously.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@<dakshinastrologer%

> > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > > > > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed

> a lot

> > > > > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated

> public

> > > by

> > > > > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of

> printer's

> > > > > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong

> ideas),

> > > his

> > > > > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read

> the

> > > > > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need

> for

> > > > > confirmation of that rule at all!

> > > > >

> > > > > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In

> the

> > > > > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

> > > improve

> > > > > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

> > > whose

> > > > > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a

> Dhanus

> > > > > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > > > > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the

> 9th

> > > > > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness

> to

> > > the

> > > > > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be

> a

> > > very

> > > > > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

> > > grow

> > > > > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings

> with

> > > the

> > > > > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general

> view I

> > > > > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to

> be

> > > seen

> > > > > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord,

> aspects on

> > > the

> > > > > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

> > > prospects of

> > > > > a bhava in a horoscope.

> > > > >

> > > > > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from

> ascendant

> > > > > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house

> lord of

> > > > > that bhava.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing

> the

> > > > > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

> > > decisive

> > > > > factor.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40><vedic astrology%

> 40><vedic astrology%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > Vinod kumar pandey

> > > > > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person

> will

> > > be

> > > > > fortunate

> > > > > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in

> 12th

> > > > > house from

> > > > > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will

> be

> > > > > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks Vinod

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > > Answers

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagannathanji,

 

Thanks for a wonderful ellaborative response.

 

The native is very concerned about his career and finances. The

financial condition is not that great and also the career does not

seem to fall into the proper place. The native seeks to achieve a high

position.

 

What are your thoughts in regards to his career and finances. Do you

see a good finanical position in jupiter dasa and do u think the

native can achieve his dreams of securing a high post in career.

 

Thanks

Amit

 

vedic astrology , " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

<jagannathankr wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> Ascendent is Aries,Moon in two,Venus in three,Mer,Sun and Rah in

> four,Jupiter in five,Saturn and Mars in six,and Ketu in ten.

>

> Jupiters Dasa runs from 7-8-2008 to 7-8-2024.At present the native is

> running Rahu Mahar Dasa and Moon bhukthi from 17-1-2006 to 20-7-2007.

>

> Jupiter is the Karaka for " Putra Yogam " .The Putra who can save the

parent

> from " Punnama Narakam " .

> Can there be a nuetral state of existence between Narakam and Swargam?.

> " Karako Bhava Nasasya " simply implies that ,in my humble opinion, Karaka

> becomes defunct.?

> In the chart under consideration,Jupiter being a male planet is

situated in

> the fifth which is a male sign.both from Lagnam and Mesham.Inspite

of the

> facts being such Jupiter may cease to yield results pertaining to

the birth

> of a male child.

> The combination of Sun Rahu and Mercury is one of a group of malefic

> planets.Sun has lost his bright rays.?

> But the " Panchamadhipathy " Sun is with Mercury who is also a

> " Panchamadhipathy " from Chandra Lagnam.?

>

> Tenth house also gives incling about child birth.Saturn is in

six.Ketu is in

> Makharam.So child birth will be delayed.Therefore during jupiters dasa

> child birth may become a cause of worry.Suitable " Shanthi Pariharas

" have

> to be done.

>

> As the fifth house from Jupiters is his own house possibly one male

child

> may be born.Another reason is that Moon is exalted.His, running,

bhukthi may

> be fruitful.2004 was unfavourable for child birth.2008 is

> favourable.2005was not good for child birth.

>

> Saturn transits to Leo soon.Therefore you have to light a lamp of

Mustard

> oil to Him.on every Saturday.This " Parihara " may promote the birth

of a male

> child.

> I welcome you for further discussion.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

>

>

>

> On 11 Apr 2007 11:41:45 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagannathaji,

> >

> > Aug 6 1980

> > 12:04 am

> > mumbai

> > Lagana is aries.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > vedic astrology

<vedic astrology%40>,

> > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > > kindly furnish full details of birth data.

> > > regards,

> > > jagannathan.

> > >

> > >

> > > On 11 Apr 2007 11:00:34 -0700, planck12 <planck12@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries

> > acedent)

> > > > and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the

> > 5th

> > > > house).

> > > >

> > > > What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

> > > > juptiers MD

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Amit

> > > >

> > > > --- In

vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40><vedic-astrolo\

gy%

> > 40 >,

> > > > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > > > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example

> > to

> > > > > illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> > > > > Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in

> > two,Rahu

> > > > in the

> > > > > third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the

> > eleventh

> > > > and

> > > > > lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and

> > Moons

> > > > bhukthi

> > > > > was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost

> > his

> > > > sight and

> > > > > became blind.

> > > > >

> > > > > What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon

> > is

> > > > the lord

> > > > > of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and

> > an

> > > > enemy of

> > > > > Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

> > > > aspects

> > > > > Rahu.?or even Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

> > > > debilitated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

> > > > Mercury.Moon is the

> > > > > Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

> > > > being

> > > > > himself the second lord from himself.?

> > > > > Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both

> > the

> > > > > eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

> > > > a " Jalatatwa

> > > > > Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the

> > reason

> > > > that

> > > > > " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

> > > > Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> > > > > Regards,Jagannathan.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > > > > > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned

> > houses.

> > > > > > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due

> > care.

> > > > > > Let us take two examples,

> > > > > > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

> > > > promote

> > > > > > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but

> > may

> > > > not be

> > > > > > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not

> > harm.

> > > > > > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava

> > nashyo.

> > > > > > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

> > > > what

> > > > > > manner,

> > > > > > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > > > > > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to

> > be

> > > > careful in

> > > > > > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > > > > > simulteneously.

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@<dakshinastrologer%

> > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > > > > > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed

> > a lot

> > > > > > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated

> > public

> > > > by

> > > > > > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of

> > printer's

> > > > > > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong

> > ideas),

> > > > his

> > > > > > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read

> > the

> > > > > > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need

> > for

> > > > > > confirmation of that rule at all!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In

> > the

> > > > > > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

> > > > improve

> > > > > > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

> > > > whose

> > > > > > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a

> > Dhanus

> > > > > > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > > > > > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the

> > 9th

> > > > > > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be

> > a

> > > > very

> > > > > > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

> > > > grow

> > > > > > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > > > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general

> > view I

> > > > > > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to

> > be

> > > > seen

> > > > > > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord,

> > aspects on

> > > > the

> > > > > > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

> > > > prospects of

> > > > > > a bhava in a horoscope.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from

> > ascendant

> > > > > > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house

> > lord of

> > > > > > that bhava.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing

> > the

> > > > > > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

> > > > decisive

> > > > > > factor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40><vedic astrology%

> > 40><vedic astrology%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > Vinod kumar pandey

> > > > > > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > fortunate

> > > > > > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in

> > 12th

> > > > > > house from

> > > > > > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will

> > be

> > > > > > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks Vinod

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Sir,

I am happy to read your kind mail.

The lord of the tenth house both from Lagnam and Chandra lagnam is

Shani.Thepresence of Ketu in ten indicates that the native will give

up his job

voluntarily at some time.Rahu aspects the tenth house.Mercury is in

conjunction with Rahu.Rahu Chandra will be completed by

20-7-2007.AngarakaBhukthi is between 20-7-2007 and

7-8-2008.During this Moons period the native feels that he should achieve

his ambitions.

 

Mars sub period starts from 20-7-2007 and proceeds upto 7-8-2008.This indeed

is a bad period for job prospects.The native may even giveup his existing

job.Mars is the " Ashtamadhipathy " you see.Matters related to litigation of

properties,agricultural lands,buildings etc will start right

earnestly.Thenative will be busy with such things.

 

During Jupiters Dasa he will get name etc.He will have good

health,cheerfulnress etc.Particularly he will have luck in favour of him as

Venus aspects the nineth bhavam.

Regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

On 12 Apr 2007 00:23:11 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

>

> Dear Jagannathanji,

>

> Thanks for a wonderful ellaborative response.

>

> The native is very concerned about his career and finances. The

> financial condition is not that great and also the career does not

> seem to fall into the proper place. The native seeks to achieve a high

> position.

>

> What are your thoughts in regards to his career and finances. Do you

> see a good finanical position in jupiter dasa and do u think the

> native can achieve his dreams of securing a high post in career.

>

> Thanks

> Amit

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> <jagannathankr wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > Ascendent is Aries,Moon in two,Venus in three,Mer,Sun and Rah in

> > four,Jupiter in five,Saturn and Mars in six,and Ketu in ten.

> >

> > Jupiters Dasa runs from 7-8-2008 to 7-8-2024.At present the native is

> > running Rahu Mahar Dasa and Moon bhukthi from 17-1-2006 to 20-7-2007.

> >

> > Jupiter is the Karaka for " Putra Yogam " .The Putra who can save the

> parent

> > from " Punnama Narakam " .

> > Can there be a nuetral state of existence between Narakam and Swargam?.

> > " Karako Bhava Nasasya " simply implies that ,in my humble opinion, Karaka

>

> > becomes defunct.?

> > In the chart under consideration,Jupiter being a male planet is

> situated in

> > the fifth which is a male sign.both from Lagnam and Mesham.Inspite

> of the

> > facts being such Jupiter may cease to yield results pertaining to

> the birth

> > of a male child.

> > The combination of Sun Rahu and Mercury is one of a group of malefic

> > planets.Sun has lost his bright rays.?

> > But the " Panchamadhipathy " Sun is with Mercury who is also a

> > " Panchamadhipathy " from Chandra Lagnam.?

> >

> > Tenth house also gives incling about child birth.Saturn is in

> six.Ketu is in

> > Makharam.So child birth will be delayed.Therefore during jupiters dasa

> > child birth may become a cause of worry.Suitable " Shanthi Pariharas

> " have

> > to be done.

> >

> > As the fifth house from Jupiters is his own house possibly one male

> child

> > may be born.Another reason is that Moon is exalted.His, running,

> bhukthi may

> > be fruitful.2004 was unfavourable for child birth.2008 is

> > favourable.2005was not good for child birth.

> >

> > Saturn transits to Leo soon.Therefore you have to light a lamp of

> Mustard

> > oil to Him.on every Saturday.This " Parihara " may promote the birth

> of a male

> > child.

> > I welcome you for further discussion.

> > Regards,

> > jagannathan.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 11 Apr 2007 11:41:45 -0700, planck12 <planck12 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagannathaji,

> > >

> > > Aug 6 1980

> > > 12:04 am

> > > mumbai

> > > Lagana is aries.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>

> <vedic astrology%40>,

> > > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > kindly furnish full details of birth data.

> > > > regards,

> > > > jagannathan.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11 Apr 2007 11:00:34 -0700, planck12 <planck12@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > > What happens with Jupiter is in 5th from lagna in leo (aries

> > > acedent)

> > > > > and sun is in 4th (which is 12th from its own house which is the

> > > 5th

> > > > > house).

> > > > >

> > > > > What sort of effects would this give, especially if a person runs

> > > > > juptiers MD

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Amit

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>

> <vedic astrology%40><vedic astrology%

> > > 40 >,

> > > > > " Jagannathan Kapisthalam "

> > > > > <jagannathankr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > Let me give one instance from " Saptha Rishi Nadi " as an example

> > > to

> > > > > > illustrate the principle , " Karako Bhava Nasyaha " .

> > > > > > Rishabha Lagnam,Jupiter,Venus,Mars,are in Lagnam,Moon in

> > > two,Rahu

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > third,Ketu in the nineth,Saturn in ten,and Mercury in the

> > > eleventh

> > > > > and

> > > > > > lastly Sun in twelve.The Dasa in progress is that of Rahu and

> > > Moons

> > > > > bhukthi

> > > > > > was going on.at the time of the fateful event .The native lost

> > > his

> > > > > sight and

> > > > > > became blind.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What are the astrological reasons which we may adduce.That Moon

> > > is

> > > > > the lord

> > > > > > of the second house from Chandra Lagnam.Rahu who is malefic and

> > > an

> > > > > enemy of

> > > > > > Moon is situated in the second house from Moon sign.No benefic

> > > > > aspects

> > > > > > Rahu.?or even Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury is the lord of the second house from Janma lagnam.He is

> > > > > debilitated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Second house is the " Netra Sthanam " .Moon is an enemy of

> > > > > Mercury.Moon is the

> > > > > > Karaka of " Drishti " .He is in the second house from Janma Lagnam

> > > > > being

> > > > > > himself the second lord from himself.?

> > > > > > Mithunam is a " Dwiswabhava Rasi " .It maight have affected both

> > > the

> > > > > > eyes.Mercury is the planet which governs " Nerves " .Mercury is in

> > > > > a " Jalatatwa

> > > > > > Rasi " .Moon who is in a Mercurian sign is a " Jala Tatwa Graham " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore all that had happened might have been due to the

> > > reason

> > > > > that

> > > > > > " Karaka in Karaka Sthanam acts adversely on the

> > > > > Karakatwa. " concerned.? " .

> > > > > > Regards,Jagannathan.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 11 Apr 2007 10:09:21 -0700, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Pandey and other friends,

> > > > > > > Karaka in 12th house promote the indication of its asigned

> > > houses.

> > > > > > > This is a very tricky dictum and shoud be applied with due

> > > care.

> > > > > > > Let us take two examples,

> > > > > > > 1. Sun- Sun is maran karaka in 12th house.Would such Sun will

> > > > > promote

> > > > > > > the indicatioms of 1st and 9th or 10th house if placed in 12th

>

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > > Sun in debility may give long life and promote profession but

> > > may

> > > > > not be

> > > > > > > helpfull to father. If son lives away from father it may not

> > > harm.

> > > > > > > 2.Saturn- It will not promote 12th house as Karaka bhava

> > > nashyo.

> > > > > > > It is also Karaka of 6th and 12th houses.The big quesion is in

>

> > > > > what

> > > > > > > manner,

> > > > > > > it will promote the signification of these houses.

> > > > > > > I am not douting the validity of the dictum , but one has to

> > > be

> > > > > careful in

> > > > > > > its application because same planet acts under many influences

> > > > > > > simulteneously.

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@<dakshinastrologer%

> > > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Shri. Pandey:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes....this is a very valid dictum and it works in practical

> > > > > > > situations. Dr. B.V. Raman of revered memory has contributed

> > > a lot

> > > > > > > towards popularising ancient classics to English educated

> > > public

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > his immortal works. Except for the very rare cases of

> > > printer's

> > > > > > > devil (misprints or proofing errors that can convey wrong

> > > ideas),

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > books are must-read for the aspiring astrologer. Having read

> > > the

> > > > > > > dictum from such a great astrologer, there is no further need

> > > for

> > > > > > > confirmation of that rule at all!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will just qualify that hypothesis with this addendum.....In

> > > the

> > > > > > > example you have given, Sun in the 12th house from lagna will

> > > > > improve

> > > > > > > 9th house aspects as it is the karaka of the 9th bhava (bhavas

> > > > > whose

> > > > > > > lords are in the 12th from lagna prosper). However, for a

> > > Dhanus

> > > > > > > lagna native, if Sun is in the 12th house, it will not let the

> > > > > > > significations of the bhava prosper because, in this case the

> > > 9th

> > > > > > > house lord is in the 12th house which may spoil the happiness

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > native from that bhava in some form; either the father may be

> > > a

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > famous and virtous person but not long-lived or the native may

>

> > > > > grow

> > > > > > > up far away from his parents or may have misunderstandings

> > > with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > father. We have to balance the concepts. This is a general

> > > view I

> > > > > > > have expressed for academic research; so many factors have to

> > > be

> > > > > seen

> > > > > > > like ashtakavarga bindus associated with a bhava lord,

> > > aspects on

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > bhava lord, etc. before forming a conclusive idea on the

> > > > > prospects of

> > > > > > > a bhava in a horoscope.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In short: The bhava whose kaarakaa occupies 12th from

> > > ascendant

> > > > > > > prospers provided the kaarakaa doesnot happen to the house

> > > lord of

> > > > > > > that bhava.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is one of the concepts to be remembered while analyzing

> > > the

> > > > > > > prospects of a bhava. This hypothesis by itself cannot be a

> > > > > decisive

> > > > > > > factor.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>

> > > <vedic astrology%40><vedic astrology%

> > > 40><vedic astrology%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > Vinod kumar pandey

> > > > > > > <vpandey15@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI Ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the book by Shri B.V.Raman , it is written that person

> > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > fortunate

> > > > > > > > in respect of that house whose " Karaka " is situated in

> > > 12th

> > > > > > > house from

> > > > > > > > Ascendant. ; It means if Sun is in 12th house , native will

> > > be

> > > > > > > fortunate in respect of 9th house indications. Any comments

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks Vinod

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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